Michael Jackson had a purpose there. It was to emphasize the word CHANGE, by actually changing the feeling of the song. Art is about elevating simple concepts to higher levels.

@Re-Todd_Howard

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and it sounded beautiful. Why would modern music remove key changes when they give so much feeling to a song?

@lilestower

Жыл бұрын

Word painting!

@Jcremo

Жыл бұрын

@@Re-Todd_Howard because modern music isn’t about art anymore. It’s about comfortable, safe commodification. 😒

@DonHaka

10 ай бұрын

@@Jcremo Yes, it is literally what happens with anything once it becomes a commodity in the hands of the corporations. Nowadays its all about massproduction and sales.

@meretciel

9 ай бұрын

@@Re-Todd_Howard - This is my question, too. Not that I am wild about all of the choices to do so, but I seriously am trying to understand why they're no longer 'in'. Just wait - They'll be back.

I just saw an interview with Sting where he was saying that the bridge in a song is where the therapy happens. For example, you're sad about losing a lover but in the bridge you reconsider your previous emotion and that maybe things will be better after all. The loss of complexity in modern music is such a shame.

@albertschepis

Жыл бұрын

Well put!

@garytate8284

Жыл бұрын

I also saw this but I have long been disappointed with current mainstream music. I suspect the voices are not as good. And there is less creativity musically. But I'm old so....

@ssssssssssssssssss50

Жыл бұрын

Whqt interview

@fredwerza3478

Жыл бұрын

Do modern music makers even know what a bridge is? LOL, they all seem so clueless.

@Sherab62

Жыл бұрын

i like that idea. maybe catharsis is the word, at least that's the thing that was supposed to happen in Therapy... maybe the loss of complexity stems from people not really feeling that shift in the same way, or perhaps not looking for the kind of lift that a key change adds to the song. for me, it can seem artificial, as if the musician were forcing the emotion into the song itself by manipulating the presentation. i mean that's what artists do. but, aren't people also looking for a particular mood or feeling in the music they listen to; A particular artist or genre providing reliable content? more of a pill than a therapy session?

As a musician for over 40 years as well as a university educated music major who plays drums semi professionally, bass, keys, all brass and voice, my theory is this. While there are still plenty of people studying music and performing live, the cut and paste functions as well as music libraries available in most DAWs has dumbed down most creatives so badly that they have not put in the time to learn music theory and history. This highlights why what Rick does is so important. He has the ability to speak into multigenerational audiences and point to historical and contemporary music and make it real for them. Hopefully inspiring them to get their learn on and discover a deeper appreciation for music across ALL genres.

@TomCruz54321

2 ай бұрын

I feel modern music relies heavily on algorithm. Studios tell them these particular notes are "pleasing" so all of them do it like a copy/paste homework.

@TehKaiser

26 күн бұрын

He's not Mozart. He's vastly inferior.

These key changes often make the piece of music more memorable, and give a 'kick' to the track. I can see why maybe it wouldn't be used in every piece of music, but not why it has died out.

@maro_from_germany

Жыл бұрын

Key changes are like a distinctive spice.

@andsalomoni

Жыл бұрын

Key changes are the reason why equal temperament exists. Western music system (12 equal half tones in the octave) has been built to have the possibility to freely modulate between all the keys. If this system of music stops making modulations, we can say RIP😔

@haroldsdodge

Жыл бұрын

It has died out because it's a hack move used to try and re-heat a zombie song that has run out of ideas. Modulation (when you move to a different key and then back) is a totally different thing (eg the examples by the Beatles and Police) that Rick gives. But when a song is finished after two minutes and the composer just shifts it up a semitone, that's like putting sugar on a steak. Rick is normally excellent but by failing to distinguish between modulations and key changes he's missed a trick here.

@maro_from_germany

Жыл бұрын

​@@haroldsdodge Oh dear... Where to start? "Modulation" does NOT mean that "you move to a different key and then back"; it means that there is a path from the first key to the second one. That differentiates it from a (simple) key change. Whether the Police example is even a true key change is debatable (see the discussion about modal interchange). There are key changes without modulation and with modulation; to distinguish between them is in the context of this video not really important. As far as your dislike of transposed material in general goes: No point in arguing here; you have obviously different listening expectations. Obviously not all people share those.

@haroldsdodge

Жыл бұрын

@@maro_from_germany I know what modulation is, having studied music for nearly 40 years. I was simplifying to make the post shorter. Of course a modulation doesn't always return "home" but in general it does. Cf every sonata Mozart and Haydn ever wrote, eg tonic to dominant (C to G for example) and then back again, usually in the space of a few bars. That's clearly different from the sort of key change you get in bad pop music (I can give you hundreds of examples but I assume I don't need to?) where the song simply shifts up a semitone for the last 45 seconds or so AND DOES NOT RETURN TO THE STARTING KEY. Since you evidently know a bit about music I probably don't need to tell you this but just in case you don't, the way you can tell the difference (assuming your ear doesn't instantly spot it) is that, in sheet music, a modulation is (usually) signified by an accidental (eg in the aforementioned C to G modulation the note F is sharpened for the duration of the modulation), whereas a "key change" is signified by a completely different key signature, eg if you jack it up from G to Ab then the one sharp in the key signature is replaced by four flats. In virtually every case, the new key signature pertains for the rest of the song (ie it stays in Ab, never returning to G; possibly even going up another semitone in really REALLY shallow tunes). I would characterise a modulation as a journey, one that usually ends up back home, whereas a key change is like someone putting on a pair of high heels and then doing the same dance that he or she was doing before. If you don't like that analogy I have others. But I trust you now understand my point. Happy to explain further if need be.

Love the joy on your face when you hear a key change you’ve doubtless heard a hundred times before. Pure passion.

@DeflatingAtheism

Жыл бұрын

I never appreciated how stratospheric Jon Bon Jovi’s voice was at the end of “Livin’ On A Prayer’ until I saw Rick Beato emote it!

"Wouldn't It Be Nice" by the Beach Boys has a key change right at the BEGINNING of the song. On the downbeat of the 4th bar - boom! So effective and I can't think of another example of that in pop music.

It would be a great exercise to see Rick grab a recent top hit and work a key change into it. Cherry stuff as always.

@AlexSirota

11 ай бұрын

Google smells like teen spirit in a major key. It’s like Disney rock.

I always liked the verse-chorus key change in Elton John's "I'm Still Standing". The A major to A minor change give it so much more power.

@dr4782

Жыл бұрын

Major to minor or minor to major on the same note is always a good study of contrasts. "Time In A Bottle" by Jim Croce is a classic example: D minor verses, D major chorus. The tone of the song changes tremendously between the two. By the way, "I'm Still Standing" is my favorite Elton John song of all, for that reason.

The Beach Boys songs written by Brian Wilson do this all the time. Good Vibrations is a great example. The chorus has two key changes itself. The bridge is in a different key from the chorus and the verse. It's basically nonstop key changes. These key changes are a huge part of what makes this song so distinctive.

@bigsby1

Жыл бұрын

So many wonderful examples from Brian. This Whole World modulates over and over. And he was always able to do it so seamlessly.

@devonull8784

Жыл бұрын

Distinctive is a polite understatement. Good Vibrations is a legitimate nominee for the best Pop/Rock composition. Way ahead of its time.

@Fisch269

Жыл бұрын

@@devonull8784 it‘s hard to believe how good of a song Good Vibrations is. As good we‘ll ever hear. I wonder why Rick never mentions the Beach Boys though.

@LyonsArcade

Жыл бұрын

My favorite is "Dance Dance Dance" he throws a key change right in the middle of the 3rd verse and it makes it. "At a weekend Dance we like to show up last... I PLAY IT COOL WHEN IT'S SLOW, THEN JUMP IN WHEN IT'S FAST!!!"

@dragmio

Жыл бұрын

At one point in Good Vibrations they actually sing "mo-mo-modulations". :D

You sir, are the music theory professor I always wished I had. 30 years ago I dropped a music theory course because the prof made this stuff as exciting as watching mold grow. Your content makes me grieve that decision. So beautiful. I’m trying to save so that I can support your channel. Please keep going.

@douglasboyle6544

Жыл бұрын

I don't think I've ever heard anyone compare Nirvana to John Williams, Rick definitely has a way of always keeping it interesting

@Saerdna833

Жыл бұрын

This discussion of lack of key changes is bullshit. Don't listen to the new pop crap. Listen to Dream Theater. Make some new stuff. Don't listen to the radio.

@lavenderbee3611

Жыл бұрын

@@Saerdna833 I get what you are saying, but these old songs were actual hits and played on the radio. They weren't underground, practically everybody knew these great songs.

@dare_he_is

Жыл бұрын

@@Saerdna833 😂😂 you realize that’s why that discussion is around right?

@himoffthequakeroatbox4320

Жыл бұрын

Same here. My music teacher at school was a right old snob, all the posh kids who were having instrument lessons were "it" and the rest of us proles rhymed with that. Pretty much put me off for life.

A key change I've been obsessed with lately is the chorus on "Come on Eileen". Such a great sudden change that really makes the song on top of the hooks. Great video Rick!

@aletaangel

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, I forgot about that one, loved that song ❤

@cityoflights3808

Жыл бұрын

That’s an example of a key change compensating for the fact that the song writing has nowhere to go and the song would be too short or too repetitive without it. It’s a trick. Nothing more.

@bradspringer2372

Жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes!!!!!

@DeflatingAtheism

Жыл бұрын

The level of musicianship involved in just that slow accelerando at the end is astounding!

Don’t forget Roxette’s “It Must Have Been Love”, which modulates a fourth up at the end (from C major to F major). The limit of what’s possible in any given song is really just determined by the respective singer’s range. 😁

@kapellekonig6512

8 ай бұрын

You could have just said: Don't forget Roxette. 🙂 There are soooooo many beautiful harmonic changes in their songs.

@moon_fake

5 ай бұрын

It changes 5 semitones?? No wonder I can never nailed those last reff

I'm a non-musician but I always appreciate your keen insights and deep musical knowledge.

@McCherrill

Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@kaudsiz

Жыл бұрын

Burke Long I’m trying to learn guitar but couldn’t agree more. Watching these channels on youtube has taught me to appreciate music in totally new ways 🤘☹️🖤

@simonmultiverse6349

Жыл бұрын

It looks as if key changes started happening just as The Beatles got going. Maybe The Beatles used key changes and lots of musicians realised that a key change was a good idea.

@blyrax

Жыл бұрын

@@simonmultiverse6349 I'm no musician, I'm just asking. But haven't there been key changes in popular music since the 15th century?

@corybarnes2341

Жыл бұрын

@@simonmultiverse6349 Key changes pre-date the Beatles by several centuries in Western Music. There are numerous Elvis Presley songs with key changes. Frank Sinatra "New York New York" has many of them.

I was dreaming and in my dream i was watching: *The Jonny Greenwood Interview*

@zachm3264

Жыл бұрын

Dream come true

@dominikaffa5205

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully

@ggthewhale

Жыл бұрын

Lol imagine

I really like the modulation in Eric Clapton's song Layla. The change of tone in the execution of the main riff for the "normal parts" of the song and from these to the chorus, make the riff even more spectacular.

@dennisp3314

Жыл бұрын

That change in Leyla - was always a fun one to sing

@mikerockshard8282

3 ай бұрын

Deceptive cadence

In Enya's Orinoco Flow (Sail Away) there's a beautiful modulation from the verse to the pre-chorus, then back to the original key in the chorus. It makes for quite a transporting trip

I remember being 8-9 years old and hearing “Penny Lane” and thinking: what in the world is this?? Gave me a feeling that’s indescribable.

@ghostAFsky

Жыл бұрын

It's in my ears! It's in my eyes! Ahhh!

@jonlavigne3270

Жыл бұрын

I thought the pretty nurse was selling puppies from a train when I was a kid.

@Rainyman63

Жыл бұрын

The key change is down, but the melody goes up. I guess that irritates the listener for a moment and makes this key change so powerful.

@SnabbKassa

Жыл бұрын

"It" is a song with more than one melody!

@rifyrafi

Жыл бұрын

To this day, this song makes me happy. It's magical just like the rest of their countless classics.

An old friend of mine always said that the change in "Every Breath You Take" was the one million dollar chord. Indeed it is a perfect modulation.

@peterkoch3777

Жыл бұрын

Listen to Police's King of Pain... several of these modulations. Sting was never shy to modulate and used it to great effect.

Earth, Wind and Fire "After the Love Is Gone" is an entire song of modulation. I saw someone analyze it saying it's "a masterclass on the circle of fifths". They used interesting modulations toward the ends of some other songs, my favorite being "You Can't Hide Love".

@richatlarge462

Жыл бұрын

I remember when that song came out. It felt a little too much like an exercise in music theory because of all the key changes.

@Simon-Sax

Жыл бұрын

Those songs, both of those tunes including Imagination, are all incredible tunes

@klausboenigk7937

Жыл бұрын

david foster's and jay graydon's masterpiece. they won a grammy for it, these were the years of sophisticated jazzy pop songs, sad they're over, only stupid boring music for the people on the radio today. glad I was young in the 70ies and 80ies...

@dennisdillon1360

Жыл бұрын

@@klausboenigk7937, who listens to the radio anymore? 😄

There are two key changes that immediately jump to mind for me: the “Breaking up is never easy I know” line from ABBA’s Knowing Me, Knowing You and the line “He told me (Let the children lose it…)” from the chorus of Starman. Wonderful!

@arifb222

Жыл бұрын

How is the one from ABBA a key change?

I saw an interview with Sting on how he wrote Every Breath You Take, which is easily the biggest hit of his entire career. He said once he finished composing it, working out all the details on paper, he went to his piano to play it and when he was finished he said he knew immediately he had a number one hit. I surmise when he hit that bridge, ("since you've gone, I've been lost without a trace"), that goes up, he almost couldn't control his giddiness....... because that made that song. Yes it's got a great hook, a great beat, great lyrics, and it would have been a good song alone without that bridge. But that was the icing on the cake. Don't forget, he fades out his vocals at the end of that bridge ("baby, baby, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease") for what I think is 8 bars!

@joe6096

Жыл бұрын

@@videogroove I don’t know, the riff seems to be more with the bass line. Andy just followed Sting.

@jillsalkin7389

Жыл бұрын

That is such a great bridge!!! Plays in my head often.

@ismailalizade8078

Жыл бұрын

Actually I have always disliked the bridge,it is too pop

@ischmidt

Жыл бұрын

As Alan Pollack said about The Beatles, great songs have great bridges. And Every Breath You Take has a classic bridge.

@samik5717

Жыл бұрын

Great analysis

“Rosanna” by Toto has modulations all the way through, from section to section. Stevie Wonder songs have them all over the place, as do Motown songs in general (probably a big part of the bump in the 60s).

Stacy's Mom has a surprisingly good key change in it too. I always thought that it was a silly novelty song, but once I learned to play it, I realized that it is a well-crafted, underrated gem

The impressive key change in Living On A Prayer is all Desmond Child. He is basically famous for his interesting modulations. Try looking at the chord structure of songs like Alice Cooper's Poison and Michael Bolton's How Can We Be Lovers. You'll see that key changes mid-melody is a theme in his work.

@trash_the_place

Жыл бұрын

Which is what makes those parts cheezy and formulaic. They could have at least changed up the lyrics for those parts.

As someone who loves good music but with zero musical training I really appreciate how you make this stuff understandable. And it helps me explain to my kids at least one reason why I find most of the current music boring. Never knew how to put it in words that popular music today just seemed flat and musically uninteresting.

Love this from Joni Mitchell "I thrive on change. That's probably why my chord changes are weird, because chords depict emotions. They'll be going along on one key and I'll drop off a cliff, and suddenly they will go into a whole other key signature. That will drive some people crazy, but that's how my life is." - Joni Mitchell

Being from Brazil, I grew up with songs that would modulate several times as if nothing was even happening. But the current state of music is just not that interesting in general...good thing we have so many beautiful creations to quench our thirst at...and Rick to remind us to appreciate it all!

@experience5988

Жыл бұрын

Man, you live in a country where the mainstream music is called "brazilian funk" which consists of ONE SINGLE NOTE !

@cezarsantana

Жыл бұрын

@@experience5988 Yes, that's nowadays...have you ever heard anything Brazilian from the 60s, 70s, 80, 90s? You're just confirming what I've said: the poor state of current world music. Not only Brazil, everywhere!

@Phantasma999

Жыл бұрын

You are stuck in the past, mano. Today sounds different than yesterday, and tomorrow will sound different than today.

@Phantasma999

Жыл бұрын

@@experience5988 brazilian mainstream music is "Sertanejo Universitário". "Funk Carioca" and it's subgenres are actually the creative trends in brazilian current music scene

I'm not a musician, but I always loved the key change in the middle of To Know Him is To Love Him. It just encapsulates the anguish and frustration of a teenage girl not being able to understand why the boy she loves won't love her back.

I remember reading a study that a computer programmer did about pop music, where he was able to calculate that the lyrics to popular music have been steadily increasing in repetitive-ness over time, to where today's music includes roughly twice the repetition that music from the 60s did. And that's just lyrics. Also, he found that the most repetitive major artist over that time was Rihanna.

@sharpvidtube

Жыл бұрын

"Around the world", repeated 144 times by Daft Punk, might've skewed those results😂

@jbratt

Жыл бұрын

“Why can’t we be friends”….

@sadhappy8860

Жыл бұрын

@@sharpvidtube Either that or 'All the single ladies...'

@willmistretta

Жыл бұрын

In this thread: All the people who'll tell you climate change isn't real because it was pretty cold where they were yesterday.

@nadavegan

Жыл бұрын

@@willmistretta says the guy who says it IS real because it is hot where he was this summer.

Thank God you posted this Rick!!! As a rock guitarist who does session work for hip hop,r&b. Ppl are really afraid of chord changes!!! Even easy diatonic or basic blues based changes. To me it came from the lack of actual PEOPLE making music and using programs.

@jorgepinto2085

Жыл бұрын

I would say that there are lots of people with little musical knowledge making music these days. The music industry supports them, and not so much the real musicians. There is an obscure agenda behind all this.

@marksmith7789

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, any dufus with a computer can chuck stuff out now.

@deleted546

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgepinto2085 I agree, the agenda is money. The safer the investment, the better. If a company can have their music playing on the radio or droning in the background in a store or similar venue, they want it. If it has character and would make people think about what they're actually hearing, they don't want it. Money trumps creativity and we all lose because of it.

@Baribrotzer

Жыл бұрын

Whole lot of interesting ideas here. One guess: Non-musicians might actually be better at writing hits. This being because they themselves are EXACTLY the people they're writing for, and they don't create music with anything unnecessary. What they piece together on their laptops is more likely to come out all-killer-no-filler: having everything a big hit needs but no clever gimmicks of the sort that musicians love - but which the listening public is indifferent toward, may not notice, or might even dislike. Just watch how much Rick - an excellent musician - loves the key changes he's illustrating. Yet Joe Schmoe might not even hear that anything changed.

@KM_1983

Жыл бұрын

@@Baribrotzer With the junk that becomes hits… that sounds exactly like the other 19 songs on the top 20.. same beats , same sounds… it’s just cookie cutter crap. Every now and then you get something that is outside the box and it lasts the rest of time.

Stevie Wonder' "Golden Lady" and "Superwoman" are two of my favorites Rick. If I'm hearing it correctly, I think he modulates up half a step twice on each song. Bill Withers jumps up a half key I think five times on "Harlem"!

You're a treasure, Rick. You continue to bring a wide variety of insight and education to all of us who love and play music.

Older songs wouldn't even have smooth key changes and they'd still sound interesting and make sense! They would just do it. Didn't need to be parallel or relative majors and minors, they'd just do whatever, transpose up or down and do whatever they want. I'd love to hear more of that again.

@johnupdate

Жыл бұрын

since youtube is around, the keychanges are gone …

@Eff_Marti

Жыл бұрын

@@johnupdate IDK if youtube itself is the cause, but you do have artists like John Mayer dumbing down theoretical concepts such as modal interchange and rebranding them with silly names such as "pentatonic equator" to make themselves look more interesting, thus dragging entire generations of guitarists into paradigm lock. Hard to measure the influence of these celebrities but easy to hear the damage on the generations that came after them

@BatMite19

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. The Kinks' "Set Me Free" has the weirdest chording. The song is mainly in Am, but then the bridge part jumps to Bm. The root note rocks back and forth from B to Bb (maintaining the D and F# notes), and then suddenly goes to an F major. So from Bb-D-F# to F-A-C. Crazy!

@lenablack4264

Жыл бұрын

When art becomes an industry, risk and unique expression is minimised

@jonasmartinsen3439

Жыл бұрын

@@Eff_Marti Pentatonic equator is just a theoretical idea about how to play pentatonics on guitar, nothing to do with key changes.

One of my favorite episodes was your breakdown of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. So many key modulations that go unnoticed. It's genius composition.

With the majority of modern pop songs being based around a three or four chord loop for the whole song, one would think a key change might be needed here and there. But it seems very few producers/artists are willing to deviate from the formula.

I think my favorite key change is Chicago's "Call On Me," coming out of the the horn solo. So slick and subtle you don't even notice it.

In George Harrison’s My Sweet Lord the modulation in the middle of the bridge to the key of E major is one of my favorites. It lifts the song to a whole new level, like an ascension into heaven.

@kenkur27

Жыл бұрын

Also true of 'He's So Fine' by the Chiffons...

@dragmio

Жыл бұрын

@@kenkur27 No it is not. There is no such modulation in "He's so Fine" by the Chiffons. Not even close. Listen if you have ears.

@cityoflights3808

Жыл бұрын

I think the reference was to the plagiarism case against Harrison.

cool on Michael Jackson‘s „man in the mirror“ that the key change goes along with the lyric „change“ - pretty awesome!

There's a lot missing in the architecture of modern pop. The most irritating to me is that no one knows how to end a song. So many just STOP. Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus, done. No variation in that final chorus, no fade out, no reprise. We've reached our three minute mark, stop playing.

'Mack The Knife' seems to have a tradition where it goes up a half step each chorus.

Totally agree to the key change in "I'll be there".... total killer and transfers the heartfelt lyrics perfectly

Here in Europe we are used to the key change in the end of a song, due to the Eurovision Song Contest, where we even talk about the Eurovision key change. But I have noticed that the Eurovision key change has become more rare.

It would be interesting to hear your theory, Rick, behind this sad development of the disappearing key changes

@jonsimon5779

Жыл бұрын

It's because this generation of people trying to make music (I avoided saying "musicians") lacks the creative ability to come up with things that are very interesting structurally. Since 1992 in fact I've heard very, very few things on radio that interest me. Prior to that I was at the record store once a week for years. Then it all stopped. Today, I can scan and flip by radio stations all day and not hear one interesting thing.

@chi8772

Жыл бұрын

It got over used. That’s why it disappeared. Also the rise in hip hop and disappearance of ballads meant less use of key changes

@jonsimon5779

Жыл бұрын

@@chi8772 I think there is a potential to improperly use it but I don't know if it ever got over-used (although you could be right to some degree). To me, it always works when it's appropriate. Sometimes, yeah, I think some writers got lazy and threw it in when the idea-well ran dry but when used cleverly by skilled writers it's really structurally potent. Like in "Never Gonna Let You Go" or Sting's "Fortress Around Your Heart" (that Rick made videos on both). These key changes were >>incredibly

@jonsimon5779

Жыл бұрын

@@ioncewasmikey No doubt about that. It's all been condensed and dumbed-down to something hooky. Rather than the whole composition being a hook in totality, it's a small snippet that can be repeated ad nauseum.

@chi8772

Жыл бұрын

@@jonsimon5779 you have a point. I like the 4 key changes in love on top

Say what you want about Barry He’s not only one hell of a singer He’s writing skills Piano playing I’m not ashamed to say I love Barry Love drumming his songs You need to do it’s a miracle For what’s great The drumming is underrated

Songs you have known for years, become more beautiful when Rick talks about them and explains how they have been build up. It is like an art expert explains how a beautiful painting has been made and what details we should pay attention too.

@Paloloeq

Жыл бұрын

perfectly explained

@Astronom_

Жыл бұрын

When I explain such things to my friends they say I'm destroying this music because songs are not beautiful any more when they know how they are built. Strange, isn't it?...

@JoseGrifol

Жыл бұрын

@@Astronom_ You need to change friends

@khk4757

Жыл бұрын

You‘re so right. It‘s like being back in school, where the Book you read during your language course is really beginning to make Sense, After you‘ve discussed it and your teacher explained, what‘s written during the lines. Amazing!

@TehKaiser

26 күн бұрын

His explanations are rudimentary and superficial. Key changes are just about the only thing he can see. Blind leading the blind.

God Only Knows has a superb modulation from chorus to middle and back to verse. This Whole World by Brian Wilson on Sunflower seems to change key every few bars and still sounds beautiful. You should really analyse those two songs Rick.

@niemann3942

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you brought up Brian Wilson. One thing he did that still blows my mind is, in "Girls on the Beach", lifting the key of the song up a half-step (or step?) ... in the middle of a line of a verse! I don't know of anyone else who has done that, but it sounds so natural.

@jimstratton3389

Жыл бұрын

Good VIbrations, as well.

Things are really depressing in music nowadays - death of melody , death of key change , death of harmony ... and finally - death of art :( We need restart ASAP :) Thank you Rick , great video !

Yes, there are fewer key changes. But I think the main point is that musicians aren't writing songs with any kind of musical structure anymore. Your video reviewing the current top 10 songs proved that.

I grew up during the zenith of prog rock and jazz and I'm not playing the good old days card, but your videos dissecting Steely Dan got me reanalyzing them and a lot of older stuff and realizing that a band like them would never get out their basement now. It's utterly amazing and cool that they were so succesful. Most people now used to the simplicity of pop music would be overwhelmed with that kind of complexity I bet. I do have some modern pop and due to the singers and incredible production mainly, but it's just amazing how simple 90% of it is. Most songs are 4 chords at most, and you hear the same totally predictable chord patterns ad nauseum. So formulaic it's almost AI like.

@lydiai.3658

Жыл бұрын

my band is called Semaphora and I think we are maybe exactly that modern band that will never get out of the basement

@billyboyer

Жыл бұрын

Steely Dan is just a phenomenal band. I was talking to my Mom the other day about them. I told her if I were to make 10k a week for playing guitar with Pink or 2k a week with Steely Dan, I would take Steely Dan. They were just top notch musicians.

@tristanpatterson3843

Жыл бұрын

Steely dan truly is a different beast.

Adam Neely did a great video on one of the most elegant key changes in Pop some time ago: Celine Dions "All by myself". It's such a great example of shifing the mood of a song with a key change. And Adam is such a great story teller...

Don't forget the highly underrated Moviestar with Harpo!

When I started learning guitar (coming up on 47 years ago now, unbelievable) I really got into jazz guitar and jazz in general. In that genre a song modulating through 5 key changes is not unusual in any way nor does it sound weird - just interesting.

@argusfleibeit1165

Жыл бұрын

Jimmy Webb and Burt Bacharach are two other masters of the winding melodies.

The Beach Boys used key changes of all types in many of their songs. Four that come to mind are Surfer Girl, I Get Around, Dance Dance Dance and Don't Worry Baby. They made them sound so effortless.

@grands1am

Жыл бұрын

The verses and choruses of the overlooked "Don't Back Down" are a half-step away from each other, rendering it hugely relistenable

@williammotsko8151

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget Good Vibrations, too.

I'm not a musician (I played way back in high school), and I almost never comment, but I'm glad you did this. I think what I found most interesting about the article was the thesis of why this is happening. The author hypothesized (probably rightly) that songs are no longer written linearly (sitting down with a piano or guitar) and writing the song from beginning to end. Instead they are written vertically, using ProTools or some other audio software. Musicians and producers can take a riff or a drum beat and loop it in the software and they write the song with the various components, layering them on top of one another. It's interesting and kind of sad.

@dougimmel

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, though I would say it's interesting BUT sad.

@tonedowne

Жыл бұрын

Yeah writing vertically by pilling a load of parts onto an 8 bar loop and then spreading those parts out to make song. It can be great, but unfortunately money has removed much of anything else from the mainstream. Some of my favourite music is harmonically static, but the fact that pop music is expected to be this way to be successful, is indeed very sad.

@gordonborsboom7460

Жыл бұрын

You forgot the many many different song writers on a single song who pick up where the last one left off creating ..flatness

@Baribrotzer

Жыл бұрын

@@gordonborsboom7460 And who, I suspect, iron out anything that's musically interesting - because along the line one of 'em's going to be an all-killer-no-filler minimalist, and cut out any key changes or unexpected chords.

@wardka

Жыл бұрын

The weird thing is, key changes are a LOT easier with this software than without. You can pretty much write everything in C major or A minor (or whatever mode) and then just push the whole section up or down. So I don't get why writing in software would cause this. I think it is more a rebellion against anything not purely related to rhythms.

I’ll be there and man in the mirror are my favorite Michael jackson(Jacksons) songs and now I know why, thank you Rick for always showing us why we love good songs

Actually the chord changes are quite common in Japanese music. It would be lovely seeing you analysing some of those songs. I personally recommend 白日 (hakujitsu).

I'm a musician, but sadly, an alcoholic. I've created 40 or 50 songs, but not much lately. I'm half way there, and living on a prayer. I'd like to buy all your materials and use them..., but I probably wouldn't use them. I massively appreciate you though. You always inspire me, and help push me toward wanting to share more beauty with the world.♡

@EirikHolan

Жыл бұрын

I hope you get rid of alcohol in your life, so you can live life to it’s fullest ❤️

@jameshickson8174

Жыл бұрын

You got this buddy. Alcohol is hard to kick. Weed helped me kick it

@fredwerza3478

Жыл бұрын

Alcohol shouldn't be used to get you through the day --- only use it as a reward for a long day of work --- I only sip a half glass of wine to unwind from a busy day

@EirikHolan

Жыл бұрын

@@fredwerza3478 For an alcoholic i think one should get rid of alcohol as a reward in general. Maybe for anyone really. There are tons of ways to wind down without alcohol and its side effects on sleep and general physical and mental health

@AlexNiedt

Жыл бұрын

@@EirikHolan Well said. It's really a toxic reward system.

Penny lane is one of the greatest songs ever written. Never forget hearing it as little kid.

@albertschepis

Жыл бұрын

Yes... and the key changes are so ingenious it's delightfully obvious why.

I love that you mention Barry M. I think he is quite underappreciated (my mum and sister are big fans). His style is very 'showtunes' where keeping interest through a song is important. And he does it very well. Sadly mainstream music today seems lazy and vocally simple.

@smarmar400

Жыл бұрын

I grew up on Manilow music and I still have all of my mum's records from back in the day. I saw him in concert (my first) just after Copacabana hit the charts. What a time to be alive!

@jimstratton3389

Жыл бұрын

To this day, when my wife and I hear a key change, we refer to the song as "the Barry Manilow version."

@dennisp3314

Жыл бұрын

Not only Manilow, but The Carpenters. I was always down on them (as a Musician who "Knew better"- Ha.) - my wife loved them. And then one day, happened to listen to them on a set of Headphones & realized the Recording & Production values were something else. It really caused a big change in me.

@garytate8284

Жыл бұрын

The Carpenters were brilliant.

@raggaeldestro8609

Жыл бұрын

@Stephen Nester certain artist like Luther Vandross, Johnny Cash and Tom Jones don't need to write a song in order to project their being through the music and make it theirs.

Rick's facial expressions during key change for first two songs are good enough reason to watch this video 10 times in a row

@cityoflights3808

Жыл бұрын

I thought maybe he pulled a groin muscle.

@MisoMooch

Жыл бұрын

Rick's enthusiasm is infectious! I love watching him getting into a song

It's a real shame key changes have gone away. They give a song so much more emotional power! I hope one day they'll come back, but I have a feeling I won't be around when they do. So glad I know where to find them in the songs of my generation, and maybe by sharing them (as you do @Rick Beato), they will catch on again!

@petergunn3614

Жыл бұрын

Rick needs to do a video "The disappearance of music in modern music"

Boston's "Let me take you home tonight" starts in D and when it gets to the outro changes to E, and in the middle of said outro changes again to F#. And I can't stress enough how much those changes make the ending of the song (and album) so much powerful

Great video Rick! I too lament the use of key changes in modern pop. I was listening to Whitney Houston's "I Have Nothing" the other day - First an internal modulation from a verse in G to chorus in Bb! Then the ultimate EPIC lift modulation to the last chorus in B!!

These are great examples of songs where the key changes really make the song. I have also noticed songs lately seem to end abruptly. Instead of bringing them to an interesting finish...or a grand exit...

This deserves a "Part 2" from Rick. Would have been cool to a have heard some of the naff "truck drivers' key changes" trying to make a bad song from rolling all the way down the hill. A key change that works is subtle and as Rick demonstrates so beautifully,

Some artists were known for their frequent use of modulation. Stevie Wonder is a great example, my favourite is the song "For Your Love". It changes key no less than three times! Other examples of him doing similar are in "Happy Birthday" "Knocks Me Off My Feet" "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" and "Shelter In The Rain" to name a few!

@corybarnes2341

Жыл бұрын

Summersoft.

@GendunCh

Жыл бұрын

My favorite example of modulation in Stevie Wonder is Golden Lady - just goes up and up. Great song from a fantastic album.

I am not a musician but I love music and I can truly appreciate your channel and your wisdom and expertise in music. I hear notes and melodies but its good to learn that there is so much to know how a song comes out or sounds like the way they do. More power to you!!!!

Great topic. These Eyes by the Guess Who has 4 keys, starts in C then D then E and finally F sharp.

One of my favorite internal modulations is the bridge of Aerosmith's "Janie's Got a Gun". They set it up perfectly, because it doesn't happen after the first chorus, but then it does after the second. Very dramatic.

"If I Fell" by The Beatles is very interesting in that it modulates up a half step from the intro to the first verse.

I'm 77, and recently started listening to 50's Oldies on Sirius for nostalgia's sake. As I listened to more and more songs, I became very aware of the key changes on so many of them. I even started listening for them. Mack the Knife had 5! I figured it was a way to make those songs more interesting.

@DeflatingAtheism

Жыл бұрын

The true casualties of “Mack The Knife” are the countless karaoke singers who _thought_ they know the song well!

I think my favorite song that features a prominent key change is Sting “If I ever lose my faith in you.” Key changes were still fairly common in the 90s. Another fun example was Enya “Orinoco Flow.”

@AlistairEwingforensic-services

Жыл бұрын

That is the first song I remember, ‘sail away’ was around in the 80s on top of the pops and remember being in a chair and it was on the colour TV and soothed me to sleep.

@chrisd6736

Жыл бұрын

@@AlistairEwingforensic-services- yup I was super young when it came out. I remember hearing it on the radio and falling in love with it.

You probably can't talk about it or play it because of blocking problems, but "Already Gone" by Eagles modulates a 5th I believe. That's crazy! "Surrender" by Cheap Trick has two half-step changes. One at the beginning, and one before the last verse. Love it!

One interesting example of a song using key changes is "Listen To Your Heart" by Roxette, which shifts up a key for the bridge, and then the chord progression in the bridge resolves into another shift up by one key for the final repetitions of the chorus. It is very well done.

@ischmidt

Жыл бұрын

Roxette are fantastic songwriters. I think there's something in the water in Sweden. Their recent cover of Metallica's "Nothing Else Matters" is fantastic.

@simongunkel7457

Жыл бұрын

@@ischmidt Per Gessle wrote most of the songs, though Marie Fredriksson was a great writer, she's got more credits on her solo work, than with Roxette (and her album "the change" is worth checking out and makes you wonder what Roxette could have done if the project used more of her writing). After her untimely death, Gessle continues to perform with a few other singers as PG Roxette (and that's what the Metallica tribute was).

@ischmidt

Жыл бұрын

@@simongunkel7457 Cheers, I didn't know all the "lore"! I'll check out Marie's album, her voice was always amazing.

@jensraab2902

Жыл бұрын

@@ischmidt Check out Fredriksson's album _Den ständiga resan._ I bought this many years ago, don't even know where and when. The music is very different from Roxette but has a lot of very interesting songs; not usual fare but very worth seeking out!

@fredwerza3478

Жыл бұрын

@@ischmidt I always thought Roxette was the 2nd best musical act out of Sweden after ABBA --- Ace of Base seemed very forgettable

Great to go over some examples of key changes, but would have loved Beato to have engaged with the underlying reasons for _why_ the pattern is vanishing in modern music. The source article talks about this at some length, esp. w/r/t to how digital recording software encourages people to write by assembling parts together in a copy-paste method, writing vertically rather than linearly.

I always loved that the Man in the Mirror key change was on the word "change" to give that word a ton of emphasis

Hey Rick, I am a musical illiterate, but you just put down in keys my feeling about the last decades of music. I am 50, and a lifelong Genesis fan, but I have listened to and appreciated all kinds of music (EW&F, Weather Report, Santana, Madonna, Michael Jackson, you name it). I really do miss the richness and heart of the music in the last few decades. Thank you for your work, as always, much appreciated. If musicians like you are not around the net the day of tomorrow, who will teach the younger generations? 🤘🤘❤️❤️

@earlofmar11

Жыл бұрын

Speaking of Genesis, nobody does original chords and key changes like Tony Banks!

@dougimmel

Жыл бұрын

That's the word - RICHNESS. And richness comes from depth and detail, often, complexity. Those take time, effort, study, and deep content knowledge. See a pattern ?

@stephenderraugh5248

Жыл бұрын

@@earlofmar11 He was/is the connector - they’d do bits -- MR is the bits guy - just to see if he could tie it together. He’s quite brilliant, and that I got intrinsically/intuitively before I understood, technically how he really did it - creative/smart guy; see why he was going to be an astrophysicist haha. What a band - chemistry of the 5 together and blending of their strengths as composers; how they put it all together and made it work should have its own genre. 😂Epic. Cheers.

@michaelneary888neary7

Жыл бұрын

every one is using the same computer software, plus auto tune, pitch correction, click to time etc etc, the aim has become homogenized perfection and that was never rock n roll. plus before you had studio's with guys that developed rooms, mixing desks and sounds over years, each studio was different, now its all digital, oh and nobody seems to be saying anything relevent to our lives anymore

@fredwerza3478

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelneary888neary7 yeah that's what really killed music --- too much reliance on digital technology and no heart and soul in music or lyrics anymore

The full step modulation (for "lift") used to be almost obligatory for Eurovision Song Contest entrants up until the mid-90s... Some had several.

@SandrinesVoxServices

Жыл бұрын

Very true!! "L' Oiseau et l'enfant", 'Hallelujah", "Après toi" 'What's another year" etc

Rick, you really should do a full video on Manilow. The guy is such a songwriter’s songwriter. I’ve ever performed much of anything in his style, but his live album (on 8-track) was one of those critical encounters that shaped my relationship with music.

I enjoyed this episode. I came here after listening to the Pretenders "I'll Stand By You". I love the key changes in there!

Entirely too true in the vast majority of popular music. Lack of key changes or even time changes. As a consequence there is little to remember or come back to. Thank you Rick for your efforts to continue music education and hopefully bring some life back into musical creativity.

@carlaodacosta

Жыл бұрын

Time changes are also very cool and natural. Computer aided music making has truly affected this.

@matthewchunk3689

Жыл бұрын

@@carlaodacosta I like a song that tells a story. Modern pop only tells one story...

@ricktheexplorer

Жыл бұрын

You know how hard it is to make a tempo change in a DAW? I don't even know how to do it. I just always leave the tempo at default 4/4.

@Boethius411

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewchunk3689I agree. It’s not just the chord changes and time signatures are boring now. There’s little soul to the lyrics and the melodies are as lame and blah as can get. There’s a handful of songs a year that have any level of depth and that is almost wishful thinking.

@mitra1307

Жыл бұрын

@@Boethius411 You all are only listening to the Top 100 so i am not suprised.

Something I don't hear often enough in good music is the number of unique parts to the song. I've found that it takes at least four unique parts - intro, verse, chorus, solo, bridge, outro, etc. - to make a great song. A lot of the top songs I'm hearing nowadays have maybe 3 elements but normally 2

@Trendyflute

Жыл бұрын

Good music has to keep changing to remain interesting, even if just a little bit. So much modern music has so little change, even if I can enjoy the beat for ten seconds, what else ya got for me??

A "micro" key change that I love in music-- but not sure if it has also disappeared -- is the Picardy third, i.e., ending a tune that is in a minor key on a major chord. It provides an uplifting release as a song concludes. Two examples are the endings to "Michele" by the Beatles and "Happy Together" by the Turtles.

Great episode! My only complaint was that it was too short. The first 45's my parents let me buy in the store (Jamesway in upstate NY) when I was an early teen was Mandy by Barry Manilow and Close to You The Carpenters (I still love both songs).

@alannicolle3361

4 ай бұрын

Two songs dripping with melody and emotion and beautifully sung. My goodness! Barry sent her away! What was he thinking?

A band that experimented a lot with key changes in the 80s was Talk Talk. The mood changes they created are utterly sublime.

@letimo6721

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone who gives credit to them! Underrated group. RIP Mark Hollis.

@arthurkarlsson5585

Жыл бұрын

Mark Hollis was a unrecognised genius, one of the absolute best but funnily the songs that made it to hits for the band were some of his least favourite ones. The colour of spring and Spirit of Eden are some of the best albums of the 80's.

@teacherofteachers1239

Жыл бұрын

I got to see Talk Talk open for Elvis Costello back then in our smallish area. The audience went nuts for Talk Talk and they had to come back for an encore song. Then again, we made Elvis come back to the stage three or four times. What a night. I still love the Talk Talk sound.

@Vortica_

Жыл бұрын

YES. Talk Talk is one of my favorite bands and this is one of the many reasons why.

@louise_rose

Жыл бұрын

I only noticed the other day that China Girl by Bowie -a song I have been familiar with for fiorty years and have thought a good deal about - makes a key change from major to brooding minor at a critical point about two minutes in, and how this is part of the expressive fabric of the track:. It works together with changes in his vocals and the rhythm section to suggest an inexorable pull by outside forces on the lovers in the song, the sense that they are trapped by forces beyond their control. I'm from Sweden, where this kind of unobtrusive major-to-minor shift is found all over the place in folk music, so I guess I'm so used to this device that it went under the radar with me in Bowie. :)

It is a treat to experience a true craftsman at work and this is also for musicians. This is sadly so much rarer nowadays. It is like I miss the era when there was no shortcuts and true skill was required.

Thank you for this, loved it. I would be interested to see similar data on the use of waltz or odd time in hit songs by the year. Maybe we forget the most fundamental tools that made the music work in the first place.

I really appreciate your channel, it's been so great to have the proper wording to explain things I love in music.

I rarely comment on KZread videos but Ricks knowledge and genuine passion for teaching people as well as the love of creating the videos is overwhelming. He’s one of very few subscriptions where I watch all of this video from start to finish. Just wanted to say thank you for taking the effort and it really is appreciated. Now the ask … Prince… talk to us. Pure inspiration of a musician / artist. Would love an episode on him from you.

Stevie Wonder has a lot of modulations in his songs, like “Summer Soft” that is included in the masterpiece “Songs in a Key of Life”

@markanson-cartwright9705

Жыл бұрын

Another Stevie song with a sublime key change is “As”. At the line: Until we dream of life and life becomes a dream.

@gabrvalete

Жыл бұрын

That ending when he just keeps lifting up the tone hits me every time I listen to this song

@bourbon77

Жыл бұрын

@@markanson-cartwright9705 there isn’t any key change in ‘As’

@pandorajodara

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the song Golden Lady by Stevie Wonder, I love it for the key change ! 💛

@gabrvalete

Жыл бұрын

@@pandorajodara Stevie Wonder has great key changes, he's one of the best that have done it

Great episode Rick. One of my favourite key changes was in I Wanna Dance with Somebody by Whitney Houston. I love how great vocalists can make it seem so effortless too.

@DeflatingAtheism

Жыл бұрын

Of course, the transposition at the end of her cover of “I Will Always Love You” is etched in the popular imagination, although I’m sure the video helped. What should be mentioned is that through much of popular music, the songwriter, the arranger, and the singer were likely three different people, so the “song”- per se- may have been very straightforward in its original form, but gets tailored by the arranger as a showcase of the singer’s range.

P.s. The key changes you featured are majestic ones. When I saw the title of your video, I was glad they aren’t around anymore. Thinking Whitney, “And I….” And the boy bands of the early 2,000’s. It was like, what do we do next? I know - key change! 🧀

One thing that thrills me in Nightwish songs is the key changes, especially when it goes from one section of the song to the other. It gives a whole new life to the song. Love it

@ZenMorph

Жыл бұрын

Bands like Nightwish and Dream Theater are my most listened to. For the same reason. Key changes, time signature changes, etc.

@MetalionMusic

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I love the way Tuomas conceives of key changes. The one near the end of 'Ghost Love Score' (the "redeem me into childhood" part) sets up the massive ending so well!

@MetalionMusic

Жыл бұрын

Also, if you like key changes in heavy progressive music like Nightwish and Dream Theater, check out the new Seventh Wonder album! There are some really crazy and daring key changes on that album.

After the love has gone-EWF You make me feel brand new-The stylistics Overjoyed-Stevie Wonder

Talking about recent key changes, Bruno Mars did a few. Versace On The Floor is really nice, almost didn't notice the first time so smooth.

So there's this really wild Brazilian song by Milton Nascimento (famous Brazilian singer/songwriter) called "Tanto", that in the last minute modulates in ascending half-steps like 10+ times! It's definitely a 70s song with 70s style production, but very powerful once you get into it - and Milton's voice is like that of an angel.

@BobSaint

Жыл бұрын

For like 20 years I knew Milton Nascimento only through "Cravo e canela", it was on some compilation disc friend gave me back in high school. Then the YT came, and boy, does he have an opus! I love Brazilian music.

I think it's mainly due to the popularity of Hip Hop or the crossovers between Hip Hop and Pop. Also, back in time lyrics and music were written at the same time, it was a story, nowadays instrumentals get made up front and then artists try to come up with something.

I love your teaching... Happy Christmas Rick!!!

I love Rick's reactions to a musical surprise in his videos!

I still remember sitting down with my friend (pre-internet era) with our guitars in hand trying to figure out what the hell is that fascinating jump at the end of "I'll Be There For You" by Bon Jovi. I always appreciate a key change in any song, no matter the genre. it gives you that sense of sweet surprise!