The Dirtiest Numbers Scam in RC, is it Getting Worse?
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The RC gods are pleased, you are doing the lord's work with exposing these scams!
I am consistently getting higher speeds out of my 35c 2300 mah batteries than my much more expensive 100c 2300 mah batteries. They have the same xt60 connectors and I am running them on the same car. I agree, I am seeing the same trend. I re-soldered the connectors to see if they were not soldered correctly, but even after I re-soldered the connectors, I had the same results. It is disappointing that some of these companies are stating false numbers.
SMC, Onyx, CHL.
@ruuster83
16 күн бұрын
in that order! These are the good ones
The problem is many manufactures are actually selling Lion chemistry pouch cells as LiPos. These have 3.6v average voltage per cell vs 3.85v. True Lipos are Lithium Cobalt Oxide chemistry and can deliver 50% of their energy to 3.85v midpoint vs 3.6v for Lion. You can do a CC CV discharge test to see what the midpoint voltage is for half the rated mAh. 3.85v for true lipo and 3.6-3.7v for Lion pouches. Lion pouch and LCO LiPos can have the same IR, but LCO will still perform better because it holds a higher voltage under load (about 7%). Manufactures do this because the cobalt additive is expensive, and cobalt free Lion can tolerate a lower over-discharge to 2.5v before puffing vs 3.0v for LCO.
Another issue with the community is RCs being discontinued and unsupported after just a couple years or RCs that are still being sold having half their parts on permanent back order from every retailer including the manufacturer
I would really like to see a smc srd v3 8600mah 250c
Are you taking into account the temperature of the battery when testing ? At what temp are the batteries tested ? I ask because a heated battery will have a lower IR than a cool/room temp battery. example a battery of 90f vs 70f
I have went through close to a hundred lipo’s in my boats and find there are no lipo brands I have used so far,telling the truth as far as C rating goes. As far as resistance goes I have some batteries with high resistance that go better than others with low resistance.
Looks like getting a lower c value battery and connecting them together series or parallel would be the best performance probability.
@pnewt3378
16 күн бұрын
Yep, as long as you have the space parallel is the way to go
I need high C rate for my boats. I don’t trust the C rate. I go for the wire size. 10gauge. At least.
I’ve been buying batteries from zeee for years. I get the capacity listed if not better, and they perform well in my vehicles. Including their 10k 4s packs on a max5 5690 combo in a xrt. I know their C ratings are bullshit, but I’ve still had better from them than the likes of spektrum and traxxas. SPC batteries actually had extreme swelling for me, popped the hard case. Zeee packs have been stable. How ever I have gotten some bad packs from them, but unlike the local hobby shop, you can return these packs to Amazon even with the connectors chopped off
I run in the nprc of rc and we draw a lot of current in a very short time. I would love for you to review some of the top batteries we use in no prep to see if they are indeed high performance batteries.
@slashraptor9317
16 күн бұрын
I totally agree these types of cheaper companies are making the good companies look bad
What battery went 80 seconds I would like to know
I got a 50c 3s venom battery and its lasted longer then spektrum 100c 3s batteries
it would be interesting to see a max amps pack tested they claim to be the worlds best in rc
Test Gens Ace, Pulse Lipos, Zippy, Motion Rc lipos, Spektrum lipos
I bought a few Zeee batteries for my Losi MX ProMoto and they perform awesome for my style driving, lots of punch and long run time. So I bought a pair of larger (more Mah and more C rating) Zeee batteries to run in my Kraton 8s and it will run awesome for about 5 minutes then hit LVC. Let it sit for a bit and restart the truck and can go again like they were fresh batteries.
@V8chump
16 күн бұрын
I had the same issue with some lectron pro batteries. I think the discharge is too low, your ESC makes the voltage drop so much that the ESC thinks it’s at LVC. Also even if you have great batteries that hit LVC normally, you can turn off your rc and turn it back on and it’ll act fine… for a second before it realizes the battery is dead… so they could just be dead and turning it off and on just resets the LVC status. Maybe get a cheap cell voltage checker to test. Hope this helps man!
@snuzum06
15 күн бұрын
Yea I tested them and they were near full still.
Battery ratings in mAh are like MPG ratings for cars....if you don't go over 10 MPH you'll get the MPG that they claim....and if you only drain your battery mildly, you'll get their top rating....anything more and the ratings will decrease....in both MPG and mAh
I'm wondering if the same battery series remains the same over time. In pc components they often are released with high quality components and later when reviews are done replaced with lower quality components (they do that with ssd's for example).
The manufacturers of these batteries should be held to a much higher standard. It’s understandable that these batteries are used for devices that are categorized as “toys”. So it’s easy to inflate ratings with that thought in mind. But did these manufacturers forget that these batteries are being used in toys that can potentially cause great bodily injury? Imagine buying a battery for your remote control flying RC, only to have it fall from the sky because of inflated ratings. I guess it will take for something like that to happen before they are held accountable.
I never expect more than 20c with any pack
I REALLY Wonder how my gens 11000mah 100c delivers!! 😄
Can you try SLS SPEED EDITION battery?
@RCexplained
10 күн бұрын
It's tough to get these in to Canada
@daiciuapostol79
9 күн бұрын
@@RCexplained ok
Pro Tek are always good from what I have found.
Battery makers no most people are not going to test batteries to see if they are what they claim it’s already been found by people testing the ratings are way off they always say it’s a higher mah then it really is. This is pretty much false advertisement but no one is going to stop them from this so it is getting worse until some agency steps in & files a lawsuit. It’s ridiculous just put the correct info on the batteries. It’s the cell count that matters you run a high speed on a lower cell count & of course it’s not going to go as fast as the same mah count with a higher cell count.
No they are not, look into the good Lipo companies like Onyx, SMC or CHNL (Cheaper) etc. These top tier lipos batters are pushing the limits of what we have ever seen. The cheep Ebay / Amazon lipos, yes. But I would argue they are just for toys but if your a real hobbiest then your going to want some good lipos.
If I'm racing max amps,or Onix and Amazon only good for cheap car parts for cheap cars
C rating I don't believe it .I recently broke world 🌎 record with electric rc plane, so I ask you, what manufacturers are best powerful battery is what I'm looking for and happy to mention you channel
@sendit_rc
16 күн бұрын
What record did you break and with what plane?
@spiroskatsikas
3 күн бұрын
@@sendit_rc rc foam plane, propeller driven
C ratings have been inflated at least 4X over on most affordable packs for as long as ive seen. 100C Zeees are legit 20C, which isnt terrible but its 5x worse than they claimed. Just be real with us, we'll still buy it if it works....
This whole video and you did not name one battery company. Awesome waste of time.
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