The video was meant to be 5 minutes, but it turns out we shot 15 minutes of talking. This has been edited down to 10 minutes at the loss of details on braking and aquaplaning, so be sure to check out the link in the description for the full details. Any questions please feel free to ask :)

@mituc

7 жыл бұрын

15 minutes of good educative talking. Thank you!

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

@19RedLineR74

6 жыл бұрын

Pro tip... Do these tests blind. Stay in the car (blind folded if you have to), have the tyres changed to an unknown size. Then test. Just removes bias. Try to guess the size that's on, just for fun. Same for any test you do. Be it brands or whatever.

@aca9616

6 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews michelin pilot super sport would be best for the test

@vladvld3433

6 жыл бұрын

19RedLineR74 you re joking , right? can you drive blind folded?

Quality content, no clickbait, no all caps title, subscribed!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@kotufmrshbre5531

6 жыл бұрын

Well it clickbait me, better title for this video is: The differences between 17, 18 and 19 inch RIMS tested and explained

@Zane-ur8mz

6 жыл бұрын

that pretty much sums up youtube

@edwardirvine9671

5 жыл бұрын

It's shit

@JuhaEerikki

4 жыл бұрын

Same.

17s you get tire bubbles over pot holes, 18s you pop tire, 19s you crack rims, if you live around shitty roads remember this.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

A unique way of looking at it!

@hellatightdude

6 жыл бұрын

Except that it's not all conclusive. I hit a massive pothole on the highway going above 55 and all I got was a very small tire bubble. For reference, I drive a '16 GTI with 18's.

@Motorsportsgeek

6 жыл бұрын

weight of the car and different suspension setups obviously factor in, its a generalization.

@hellatightdude

6 жыл бұрын

I suppose as a generalization, it's true. Especially with smaller cars with bigger wheels where what gets sacrificed is sidewall height. Good tip.

@Motorsportsgeek

6 жыл бұрын

Yes but what I know, dont get cheap fake wheel on heavy vehicles, unless you like going threw mags more then tires, on light vehicles its not as much of a concern unless they are really really cheap.

17" = no rim damage 18" = slight rim dent 19" = destroyed rim and suspension

@michaeljordan7446

5 жыл бұрын

It depends in with car tho this doesn’t apply for every vehicle

@Veikra

5 жыл бұрын

any size in Montreal = destroyed rim, suspension and car

@ericinfante1885

5 жыл бұрын

I don't get it

@josem1596

5 жыл бұрын

How do I avoid the slight rim dent?

@codyriko3719

5 жыл бұрын

@@josem1596 don't drive at all that is the only way

I remember back in the 95 or 96 we tried this with a Clio 1.8 16v and the factory 185 55 r 15 tire was almost as fast in corners as the 195 45 r 16. Now the comfort was better with the smaller wheel and in the tight cornering also. The larger tire was better on long turns and at faster speeds. My friend opted for the larger ones just because of the looks.

also worth mentioning that 17" tires are the cheapest to replace and 19" the most expensive.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Always a good point!

@RobertLeBlancPhoto

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, and isn't that odd since if the circumference remains the same, the 17" tire actually has more material than the larger wheeled tires. 🤔

@scottmurphy4946

6 жыл бұрын

Not a expert but i recall someone saying that the bead of the tire is the reason for the cost vs material.

@gravemind6536

5 жыл бұрын

@@RobertLeBlancPhoto Yes but the sidewalls have to made tougher with a tighter bead which costs more money and then there is supply and demand, economies of scale means the 17 inch ones are cheaper because more people will buy them whereas there is less demand for the 19 inch ones meaning the cost of production is higher.

@gravemind6536

5 жыл бұрын

@J name That would be even cheaper since the sidewalls do not need to be as strong and since there is more demand for 16's

Good info - I always hear folks debating optimum tire size; but, as you pointed out, there are SO many variables. Much like choosing "the best tire", your vehicle, driving habits, road conditions, weather, needs, wants & expectations come into play.

Have 18 on now and had 17 before. Driving normal roads to work and all day driving, the 17 are by far the best.

@ethans6.0

3 жыл бұрын

lighter rims could mean faster acceleration and faster breaking

exactly the video i've been looking forward - was feeling peer pressure to go to 19s (lol) but now I'll be sticking with 18. thanks!

"what's the best wheel size overall?" *10 minutes later* "It really doesn't matter nearly as much as what tyre you choose."

@trido1986

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.I found out almost all video review just bla bla bla..then not a clear cunclusion at all.

@ThomasNing

3 жыл бұрын

@@trido1986 well I mean, this is the clear conclusion I pointed out. And it's not just bla bla the information is interesting if you care, I was just poking fun at the pointlessness of the question in hindsight.

@crhu319

2 жыл бұрын

He's wrong

18inch are the best compromise. Less impact issues but still good comfort and not ridiculously expensive for new tyres. Anything above is not worth it.

@teme5529

2 жыл бұрын

Planning on doing 17 inch on the Celica because the current 18 are too loud! :( Edit: The tyre threads have significant sound differences when it comes to manufacturers.

An important factor to note is what size wheels the car was developed for. On a car developed with 17" wheels as a target, the suspension and damper tuning would typically reflect the additional damping from a thicker tyre profile. For example fitting high profile tyres and small wheels to a Golf GTI Performance would make the handling less predictable and precise, while fitting large wheels and low-profile tyres to a base Polo would cause it to become twitchy and less settled over rough surfaces. Great video, nonetheless. I wish every car creator on KZread was as well informed as you.

Just bought an '18 golf comfortline a couple weeks ago with 17" rims and I can agree they are comfortable. I could even go on a road trip with my new car!

Finally there's these kind of tyre videos on KZread! Thank you!

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm happy I'm finally making them! Lots more to come!

This is a great general compairison for when all things are pretty equal. Some other things to keep in mind though is tire quality, and weight/manufacturing process. You can have a 19 inch wheel that weighs signifcantly less than an 18 inch whee(especially if the 19 is forgged or flow formed), and that change could balance out the smoothness of the ride a bit... as unsrung weight is reduced. You might also skip a bit of the ride , and wet handling penalty in upsizing wheels depending on the tire category(summer, all season, winter, touring, uhpas etc) and Manfacutrer of tire you put on. Theoretically you could most likely achieve the best combination of everything in the 18 inch diameter(if everything is speced perfectly) BUT it is not a garauntee. A low budget 18 inch setup is unlikely to perform a well though out higher priced 19 inch setup if wheel choice and tire are chosen wheel (and likely not cheap). You can have a 20 pound forged, or flow formed 19 inch wheel vs a 18 inch 28 pound cast wheel. The differnce in weight should negate much of the ride quality penalty, while inproving dry performance, and maintainng good wet performance IF specked correctly. One thing is for sure, you are likely to pay signifcantly more for the 19 inch setup. Wheel width can also play a huge roll as a more narrow 19 inch tire may best a wider 18 inch tire in the wet....again depending on what tires you run.

Another great review. Direct, honest and detailed in such a way that pleases the average car driver and also the enthusiast. Keep the great work!

My car factory spec is 195-45-R15. Control is good. I fitted 50 series tyres to improve the ride on rough roads and did notice a slight reduction in steering feel. However the big issue is the wheels are prone to buckling the 45s were just too skinny. I ended up with steel wheels and the 50 tyres. They have not buckled in over 30,000 miles and will soon be getting a new set of 195-50-R15.

Wonderful test, thanks! I've found dropping rear tire pressure by 2-4 psi adds more comfort too - car labels in NA generally state the full load pressure only (for safety), unlike EU where you'll frequently see normal and full load - most people rarely drive at full load

Amazingly helpful. I bought a 2015 GTI recently, and thought about going down in wheel size, since the city I live in doesn't have the greatest roads. Definitely will be looking at what tires I can by rather than changing the wheel size. Great review.

Great tests and great car to test it in. I own a MK7 GTi Performance Pack. I honestly upgraded my rear sway bar, coilovers and kept the stock 18” wheels. I did upgrade the tires to 235 over 225. I have zero desire to go 19”. Esp with NYC potholes.

@gravemind6536

Жыл бұрын

I know someone with big wheels who keeps having to replace tyres all the time where everyone else waits until they have 2mm they just don't seem to get it.

Great video, many thanks for the comparison. Interesting that I've had fewer punctures from cars with wider sidewalls than cars with much lower profiles too

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

This seems to be a trend as there's less deflection in the apex and shoulder

Great video! I've been waiting for someone to do a test like this for years. As I suspected there seems to be a real sweet spot for road use. Hope to see more stuff like this in future!

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Gazman thank you, I'll be doing my best to make more! There's a few very interesting videos in the pipeline!

In India we hardly see 17 , 18 , 19" in normal cars , because of poor road conditions here manufacturers use 15 , 16" . Sometimes you can see 14" as well on base models.

@Osprey1994

3 жыл бұрын

One problem you can't fit anything below a 17 on a GTI with the PP.

@mic400uk

3 жыл бұрын

that's if your lucky enough to find a road 🤣 small wheels and a soft suspension is what you need 👌

@RaduGiurgiu

2 жыл бұрын

True. Always small rims will be the better confort and also overall better for the car and rims!

Great vid! Followed your advice and run 17's for my winter tires and 19's for my summer tires. The 17's rides very comfortable in the snow, slush and ice. When the hwy is dry in the winter, the 17" Falken winter tires are quiet and comfortable for a winter tire. In the summer, the 19" Goodyear tires provides great road feel and is spot on!

@tyrereviews

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Thank you for doing these tests! As you mentioned, the same tires was used, but to be really precise you had to use also the same wheels. I weighed difference between 16" and 18" (the same company, different design) and the difference was 5 kg per wheel (20 kg of unsprung mass on a car). What I learnt from your video was that stifness of tire sides is more important than weigth...

@BavarianM

2 жыл бұрын

He can't use the same wheels obviously

I drive BMW 735 IL e38 I changed from 18 inch to 16 inch and what a huge difference!!! The comfort i have now is awsome! Never going back to 18 inch!!!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad the switch worked out :)

First video I've seen from your channel, and it was brilliant. It had the information I wanted to hear, explained clearly, and was well presented with fair tests, both objective and subjective. Liked and subscribed!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, really appreciated :)

Thanks for video and comments. Unless I am driving on a track, big wheels are pointless! Sure they look very pleasing but low profiles make for a very bumpy ride on real roads and expensive damage to tyres, rims, and wheel couplings is far more likely.

I found the same with 19" summer tyres v 17" winter tyres on my 3.0d X3 M Sport. The difference in road noise is amazing, plus the softer compound of winter tyres really suited the 4 wheel capability of the SUV. I remember taking corners and fast bends a lot quicker than other drivers in similar vehicles. Just wished it was down to driver competence :-)

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

It could be down to both ;)

One thing I noticed about wider tires with lower profile side-walls on taller rims is how easy - some times too easy! - they are to steer. Almost twitchy. To me, handling isn't just about how easily a vehicle can be steered, but how well it tracks a straight line when steering isn't required. And 'old school' narrow tires with higher profile side-walls fit that bill quite well. I feel more weight when I steer narrower tires, given same overall diameter of tire+wheel package.

That's why i love this channel. Good quality , ENOUGH details to answer the question . A remarkable content as always. Great job and keep it up.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Zaharia Nicolae thank you :)

@zaharianicolae9828

6 жыл бұрын

...and engagement with the viewers , on top of that. Cheers !

Good review and a well reasoned collusion. Some years ago Car & Driver Mag. did a similar comparison on a VW Gulf that included acceleration runs as well. With aluminum weighing more then rubber, basic physics applied and the 17" was the fastest and the 19" wheel was the slowest in the acceleration runs. For those of us who drive on poorly maintained roads, the taller side wall makes more since too.

@Geoff0711

Жыл бұрын

This is true and over all grip is also better with lower unsprung weight.

This is the most detailed review in this kind of topic I have ever see. Gratulation.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it :)

TL;DW on the tyre used in this test (Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3), the 18" tyre is the best all-rounder with the car tested (VW Golf Mk7 GTI).

Thank You So Much for the Efforts & for sharing this informative video on Tyre Sizes Test! Stay Safe & Stay Grateful! 🌷🌿🌍

Very interesting also something worth mentioning if you're after the best straight line speed and don't mind sacrificing some cornering a smaller wheel is better. It can take more of a launch without slipping bc it's got more tyre to crinkle and absorb the shock of a launch. They also weigh less, less rotating mass = better acceleration

Excellent video. Quality content. Very good to know how the car behaves with the change in rim size.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Cleber Melo thank you, I appreciate the kind words

What a superb video. And the reviewer was straight to the point. Loved his delivery. Spot on.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Asif Farooqui thank you, really appreciated :)

@asiffarooqui6789

6 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews Any time Sir 👍

It would be great if you could state cold and hot psi especially on the dry track. Most of us doing track days find this the biggest question to be answered. I appreciate your reviews, always well done 10/10

Thank you for providing such a comprehensive comparison video!!

I stuck with the 18"s on my new Golf R and very happy I did so now. It does feel a lot more refined than my Scirocco on 19"s and a hell of a lot quieter. Great vid thanks 👍🏼.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you're happy with your choice, and great car!

@AhriCRose

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of upgrading from 18 to 19 on my scirocco but idk

Channels like this is what the car community need!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I could fill a niche :)

@nosurrender4321

6 жыл бұрын

you can fill my niche anytime 😉

Actual research in action. Top marks for the way you discuss the physics of the differences in performance in dry and wet conditions, your use of data and the clarity of your method.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, appreciate the feedback :)

Thank you so much for the review! I needed this review to help me decide a new purchase.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Pleasure :) what did you end up picking?

@Alex-cn9uj

6 жыл бұрын

I downsized from 19" to 17" for the Wet performance and smooth ride.

At current UK prices the 17” Asymmetric 5’s are around £25-30 cheaper per corner over the 18” version, may swing it for some. Smaller rims are also less prone to cracking and distorting if you drive on shitty pothole-filled roads, and less expensive to replace if a wheel is trashed. Something to think about if you’re currently on 17” rims and thinking of upgrading.

I would go with 17 inch. Because comfort is my priority and it is also able to achieve enough sporty characteristic for my driving conditions.

A most excellent, honest, informative and thorough review. Definitely coming back for more.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

This one was one of the most useful reviews about driving in KZread. Thank you so much! However, I hope you do something similar with other cars, especially SUVs. Golf GTI is indeed a sports car. Most people drive more "average" cars. I wonder if 17in would be best in a Nissan Rogue, Toyota Rav4 or Honda HRV.

this is a great review, and goes along way to explain relative dry/wet/nvh benefits, scaling up or down diameter sizes. The one thing stopping it from being 100%, is the complete lack of reference to relative unsprung weight of the naked 17/18/19 rims. I have a Golf R on 19" flow forged Pretoria rims, and previous had exact same model, but fitted with 18" cast Cadiz rims. the 19" wheel and tyrs combo fitted with excellent Michelin PSS is about 2 Kg a corner lighter with the 19"s, than was the 18" package. This affects primarily the relative bumps/crash handling and rebound ride comfort. My perception is that the 19" wheels perform better every where than did the 18"s, with the sole exception of high wet steering and balance, where the softer wall of the 18" makes car a little more relaxing in steering response. My caveat is also to go for the lighest alloy that is appropriate. 19" cast diamond cut alloys are weighty things. Top review anyway.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) I agree I should have discussed wheel weights, it was a rushed days testing and filming and somethings were left out. Weights have been pasted in a few comments now, here they are again :) 17” -> 19.92kg (10.82 rim + 9.1 tyre) 18” -> 22.41kg (13.28 rim + 9.13 tyre) 19” -> 20.61kg (11.5 rim + 9.11 tyre)

@briank10101

Жыл бұрын

The wheel and tire combination can also be looked at as a sprung/unsprung weight system in its own right with the tire tread in contact with the road being the unsprung weight and the rest of the tire and wheel being the sprung weight. On a comfortable tire the unsprung weight may be 50 to 300 grams - the lower the % of the total tire/wheel sprung weight the better. . This low tread unsprung weight is ideally suited to absorbing high frequency road imperfections but it's ride improvement effectiveness depends also on sidewall stiffness and air pressure amongst other things.

thank you on this very informative video. it help me decide to stay with the 225/40/18 size versus moving up to 19" or 20"

@johngraydon506

4 жыл бұрын

I have 19” on GTI performance, hate them, mainly because its almost impossible not to damage them even turning around a rough road or cobble street, so lots of places they can get marked up the santiagos are soft, so looking to get forged alloys in the near future !

@roknroller6052

4 жыл бұрын

Tyrane Lewis, Stay, You don't want to go any lower profile then that. Unless it's only about aesthetics and not performance. (performance then read my comment in the main page)

@tyranelewis6936

4 жыл бұрын

@@johngraydon506 Thank you for the confirmation John. I went looking for 19" and sales person tried to sell me on 20" because 19" is odd size to get in tires. I'm glad I held off. I'll keep 18" on this MK7.5 and lower it. I'll just exchange out for 18" more to my liking

@tyranelewis6936

4 жыл бұрын

@@roknroller6052 Thank you i will stay with 18" I'll just change wheel design and maybe a lower offset (ET35 or ET38) for aesthetics.

@roknroller6052

4 жыл бұрын

Tyrane Lewis, Trying to sell you a 20" .. What with spinners 🤣🤣 Wise choice, one very mild pot hole and kiss goodbye to a wheel... Yeah lower offset will look good...

Quality content, I’m glad someone actually gives this detailed content about tyres and rims, I use a Camry XLE V6 10’ and will be switching my rims soon thinking of getting a 16 or 17 inch rim any advice on this for this type of car?

The most thorough and potentially real world evaluation I've yet come across. Not the most televisual of subjects, so - well done !

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Really it just shows that its drivers choice on what terrain they drive most. I had 15s on a commodore that did alot of unsealed roads, definitely wouldn't of gone larger in rim size as tire would act as a damper for pot holes. Now I have moved and drive all sealed roads, I now drive a lowered falcon with 18s for better control and grip. As you can see from this, one better for unsealed and the other better for sealed. BTW try hitting a pothole with 22s $$$$$ for replacment.

@GreatGrandmasterWang

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Lewis what the hell is a sealed and an unsealed road anyway?

@luke6271

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh, I got a Commodore wagon on superlows with 17's. Unsealed roads are a nightmare I sometimes have to slow down to 10kph if it's bad enough. Mistakes were made.

@TassieLorenzo

Жыл бұрын

@@GreatGrandmasterWang Sealed road = tarmac, unsealed road = gravel.

Thanks for the review 👍🏻 I would love also the same kind of test with of the offset settings of the rims 👌🏻

What a fantastic video! Real Eye opener for me im seriously considering getting myself a set of smaller 18" alloys for the winter now!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I drive 18 inch with winter tires (live in Canada... winter is pothole season) and 19 inch with summer tires from late April until October, in my BMW 330 i. Works for me, but then again, maybe we fill in our pot holes more than a lot of other places. Living in Vancouver, we get a lot of rain, but a good summer tire that can handle rain makes it all work. So happy to get my winter ties off (fairly expensive Pirelli Sottozero 3s) off for the summer!

Came from 205/50 R17 and upgraded to 215/45 R18 I just have a slightly lower PSI on my rear wheels to 'ever so slightly' increase stability and comfort. Thanks for helping me make the decision.

The difference is 1 inch

Thank you for this detailed, beautiful review. A lot enlightening. God bless you.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Awesome video. Confirms my plan to upgrade to 18 for summer tires and put winter tyres on my 17s. Audi TT mk1 225

and i'm still rocking my 13"

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Old school respect

@HossamBindary

6 жыл бұрын

14 here

@RobertLeBlancPhoto

6 жыл бұрын

I had 13" on my first car, an '86 Subaru GL AWD wagon. It had really tall sidewalls and I think they were about 175 wide. That thing went over everything without ever any worry about the wheels. Loved it.

@zeframc

6 жыл бұрын

They're cheap, I got four decent quality Falken tires mounted and balanced for $490 on my 13" wheels!

@Eastsidegeorgiaboy

6 жыл бұрын

Kent Witham thats expensive. I can get those same falkens in 18in for same price.

Thank you very much for this video, it confirms some of my real world experiences with an OEM 18" vs. an Aftermarket 20" Tire. Specifically the part about Dry vs. Wet performance. With a brand new tire, the OEM 18" could cruise at very high speeds during a rain storm and not even feel like it is driving on wet roads. Where as the 20" is quite twitchy, and requires much more concentration even at half the speed. One other thing I'd love to see from tire tests in the future (and I don't think anyone has done this) is straight line highway stability. By which I mean the 18" (thinner) tire actually felt more glued to the road, and able to brush off small bumps and imperfections on the road without disturbing the ride. Whereas the wider 20" was superior in cornering, the straight line stability of the car was notably affected and you feel more twitchy at 20-30 mph slower than the softer and thinner 18" tire.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad our findings match :) Straight line stability certainly is affected by wheel size, and you also tend to get more tramlining / issues with road camber the larger you go.

@goldblade84

6 жыл бұрын

Yes! I never knew the word (just googled / KZreadd it), but there's a place on the way home with uneven road and it always pulls to the right when I brake. Thanks.

Thank you for the test. I am in the market for a Toyota and trying to decide between a 16" or 18" rim wheel. Your video has help me decide which wheel diameter I would like.

Was looking for this exact video for 225 options. Super helpful!

Wet grip is more important than dry, they all perform reasonably in dry conditions, in wet the difference is more obvious.

@maimunrahman9635

3 жыл бұрын

Not always as it depends on the car imo and application. My Toyo TR1s are brilliant in the wet but for cornering at high speed in the dry they don't inspire confidence. I suspect that it's because of the soft sidewalls. For general driving they're great but for sporty driving I'll be looking into something else next time.

I have driven BRZ's with 17, 18, and 19" all different brands and rims under different conditions. The best size I have experienced on the Stock suspension is ultra high performance summer rubber on the Stock 17" rim. Good ride, excellent traditions smooth progressive brake away. The 19s had more grip and transitioned at the limit just as nicely as the 17's The overall balance was just not as nice. On 17's the wet Braking performance on the BRZ is just a tad worst than dry. Its pretty amazing. The 19" do look sweet.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

We were hoping to do this test using a BRZ / GT86 but sadly it didn't work out!

This is perfect. I’m thinking of getting 17” 235/45 4s’ for my MK7 launch edition. I do a lot of drag racing so I’m hoping the sidewall will help off the line

thank you for an honest comparison of 17 and 19 inch wheels. That was my personal concern of downsizing wheels for my honda accord

Great Video , very informative and well deserve a good thumbs up ! I'm detail type of guy myself, would like to see a video of comparison "wheel offset " and "J" in how affects the daily use , I think the real point to this video is not the 17" 18" or 19" wheels, but the 45" 40" or 35" tyre wall size , in other words , the "40" it's the best choice for sportiness without compromising a lot to the comfort side of things. Here in England I recommend "45" due to poor road conditions and build quality!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) A few people have commented the same so I'd like to do a wheel weight, offset and tyre width video. These things take time, but keep an eye on the channel and hopefully I'll get it done in the not too distant future :)

THANK YOU!! Honest to Pete I have spent hours today learning more about tires than I had in all the years of my life combined. Part of the dilemma was size selection. There were 17, 18. 19 choices in the build and I went with the 18 but the run flats all weather will only be used a few months as it doesn't get that cold here. The remainder of the year will be on some size non run flat performance oriented summer tires and I had picked the tire (finally) and just couldn't decide whether I should go up/down in size.....based on your findings, I am sticking at 18 and calling it a day.

@tyrereviews

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good choice :)

Excellent, excellent video! Thanks for the great lesson on tire sizes!

Super valuable test. Thank you.

17" Comfort - (++) Handling at speed - (-) Efficiency - (++) Price - (+) 18" Comfort - (+) Handling at speed - (+) Efficiency - (+) Price - (-) 19" Comfort - (- -) Handling at speed - (++) Efficiency - (-) Price - (- -) - Smaller rims provide greater comfort and the tyres for them are usually much cheaper. - Smaller rims provide better efficiency for energy or fuel consumption. - Larger rims provide better handling at higher speeds and some pick them up for the looks. Less rubber (low profile) makes you feel every bump on the road.

The video was top notch, with in-depth analysis

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Great video I did a test and decided to go 18's, whilst I like the bigger wheel look with 19's there are too many pot holes on our roads in NZ, the 16's I had on didn't give me the handling I was looking for on my remapped VW Jetta 2011 MK6 2.0TDi. The 18's have a nice look and with a wider tyre give me a better hadling ride in the many corners we have in NZ, what I did notice was my fuel economy went from 4.1/100 to 4.5/100 but that is still pretty good on my sleepy looking Jetta that can go very well against cars well above its class and price.

So... I love this channel. Tires and wheels are a big mystery to me and I believe to a lot of casually sporting drivers. I intuitively know that a shorter sidewall means less sidewall flex and that should translate into better handling (but never thought about the difference one would experience in wet weather before... I recently purchased a used 2016 F23 M235i. I didn't know to look out for this - but it came with the "cold weather tire package" which includes 7.5" square wheels fitted with Pirelli 225/40-18 all season run flats. Like many other owners - I notice a bit of shimmy at the rear. Especially under hard acceleration at higher speeds, the rear can feel very unsettled in hard cornering or quick maneuvering. In fact, I noticed the DSC light coming on constantly through a sweeping corner that my M4 handles at about 10 MPH more with no problem - and I've seen other F22/F23 owners make this same complaint - for example when pushing it on a sweeping on or off ramp. BMW must know something - because an F22 from the factory with the stock staggered summer tires has a factory limit of 155mph. If you opt for the All Season Run Flats, the factory limit locks in at 135mph - and the only way to remove that limit is an aftermarket tune. BMW "can't" remove the limit once it "locks" into the ECU, even if you put the factory original configuration wheels and rubber on it later. Based on all of this, I purchased myself replacement OEM wheels in the factory 7.5 front/8" rear staggered configuration. I was looking at the original Super Sports in a 225/40-18 front and 245/35-18 rear for rubber - but they're incredibly difficult to find, and after watching your review on the Pilot 4S - I decided those would work for my goals. So I purchased a set of two fronts and two rears. The tire dealer called me this evening and said they have the fronts in stock, but no rears in my size. He said his factory fitment says that I can run 250/35 R18s on the rear and he has those in stock. I've heard mixed things about going "over" the size of the wheel to put on a wider tire - and I'm just wondering - is this a bad idea? It seems like a wider tire will give me more contact and should result in the rear end feeling less twitchy and unsettled, but I'm wondering if it will bend the sidewall or otherwise add stress that may compromise the tire, especially at speed? Any thoughts or suggestions?

Wonderful Informative Video 👌👌👌

This is the in-depth tyre content us nerds have been praying for! Awesome video. However totally useless for someone on 20 inches! ;)

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Dat GTR life

@iwaswithyourmom9410

6 жыл бұрын

Yep!! 20s are TOTALLY useless!!! ;)

@darrelltuttle8298

6 жыл бұрын

P Taushick, depending on the Vechicle. 20's are EXTREMELY useful and help the car perform BEAUTIFULLY.

@pumpuppthevolume

6 жыл бұрын

but to be really nerdy .....now u need 10 drivers to get use to all 3 sizes and than do blind tests

@benjaminbutton2897

6 жыл бұрын

I have 21s on my A7

Thanks for the video and changing all 4 wheels and doing wheel balancing for the video

I love this video, it helped me a lot. I have 17s and was going to go 19. Thanks to this video I am for sure going to get 18s.

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful :)

Awesome video, lot's of lessons learned, thanks!

@tire_reviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed :)

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful :)

I love this channel, tires are underrated!!

@tyrereviews

3 жыл бұрын

We agree!

GREAT video! I've been waiting for a vid like this for a long time. I put 17's on my R32, and am very happy. I don't drive like a maniac, and the comfort level and decent handling I get with the 17's is perfect for me. Over the years, i've had Fulda, Falken, Dunlop, and Good Year 17's on the car, which now has 209,000 miles on it!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

209k! That's crazy! I love the sound of the R32, must have the best v6 note ever

@AudiophileTubes

6 жыл бұрын

I hear that a lot (pun intended)!

Thank you for this video you answered all my questions!!

Very informative, thanks

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Alan Booth thanks for the feedback

i really liked your findings but i thought it would also be beneficial to know the difference in gas mileage as well as price per tire, and change in acceleration. i went from a 16 to 17 on my previous car and it definitely made a difference in those little yellow speed bumps and dips for the better.

@JustinStrife

2 жыл бұрын

I bet you weren't using the same brand and model tire when you switched.

@andyxox4168

5 ай бұрын

If you’re worried about ‘gas milage’ get 155R15 😂😂😂

@munchiesNcrunchies

5 ай бұрын

them speed bumps would make me wobble wobble and shake shake XD@@andyxox4168

THIS is what I was looking for as a new car buyer. THANK YOU

Bought and rode a used '07 Suburban C1500 with 20" Mich LTX, rode 2nd row behind driver from Phila to New Haven and didn't like it (jumpy/bouncy/stomach discomfort). Bought 17" rims and Mich LTX and now I like the Suburban a lot better. The '07 is the first year with coil rear springs and maybe first with Rack and Pinion.

great video! but I wish you had tested fuel economy too, assuming there is a difference in either weight or rolling resistance

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

You can use the EU fuel label to give an approximate idea. As far as I know all three tyres are C label.

@roxximusik8958

6 жыл бұрын

Aha - rolling resistance : yet another can of worms !

@roxximusik8958

6 жыл бұрын

Did someone mention tyre pressures and/or temperature ? This is getting kinda complicated.

If has been tested before and (surprise!) the 18" had the best grip of them all and the 17" was fastest 0-100 km/h.

Incredible review. I always wanted to you this information!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

+jen tran thanks, glad you liked it :)

I enjoyed the test and thought it was a very balanced report covering the various conditions and how it affects the cars handling and perhaps, the driver's confidence.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

This content also applies to 15" 16" 17"...I run these three sizes on my Audi a4 avant and it's exactly the same result ie 15" having so much comfort with the higher sidewall etc etc etc...but the 17" looks fab..so it depends what application is needed... but it floats on those 15"..👌

Such an under-rated channel, hopefully you guys hit 100k subs!

Really enjoyed this review I feel you managed to deliver and explain the concept really well. Obviously this is a real world sort of comparison where the actual overall wheel and Tyre diameters (rolling diameter) remains virtually the same but the wheel size and profile combine to achive this for different size wheels. In absolute wheel size matters (Ie same depth of profile but different overall wheel size/rolling diameter) the larger wheel rides out bumps better - like a very small wheeled cycle or a huge wheeled cycle - the small wheel will get caught on holes in the road worse. Anyway, It is really helpfull to know how these differences affect a given tyre but it is also a good point that different tyres have differenbt characteristics - so yes a good amout of research is needed if all this really matters to you..

Thank you. Great and consise video. Just what I wanted to find out and learn.

Top gear Australia did a comparison of the std monaro with 18 inch wheels to the street pack with 22 inch wheels, the 22 inch wheels made the car much slower round their track. From my own experience, My mk3 vr6 handled worse and felt like it was on tip toes on 17inch rims with 205/40 profile tyres but with the 15inch rims with 205/50 profile tyres gave you confidence to push on....

So how does the tire sizes affect handling in SNOW? your information for dry / wet scenarios is excellent, but Snow is completely different variable and I'd love to see your take on that.

@laurasfar18

2 жыл бұрын

Lesser width ads more weight per squareinch on the tiresurface, which gives better grip in snow. The same goes for wet roads.

that testing track looks line so much fun

🙏 Always wanted to know the Difference! Thank You So Much for the Set~Up , Testings & for Sharing! Stay Safe & Stay Grateful! 🌷🌿🌍💖