The Difference Between Nationalism and Patriotism

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Mr. Beat explains the difference between nationalism and patriotism.
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Nationalism is a word that often has a negative connotation these days.
In fact, the word is often used to attack people. It’s often automatically associated with white nationalism. And lately Trump and others, like PragerU, (clip) are trying to change that. But French President Emmanuel Macron said “nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.”
Wait, patriotism? Well that word is often glorified. And yet, nationalism and patriotism are two words that people constantly get mixed up. Wikipedia even says this, for crying out loud.
While the two terms are related and used to basically mean the same thing, today they no longer mean the same thing. So let’s clear this up.
Patriotism is love and devotion to one’s country.
Nationalism is love and devotion to one’s country ABOVE ALL OTHERS
Now, nationalism does have other meanings, and there are different kinds of nationalism, but I don’t want to complicate things too much. For the rest of this video, I do want to analyze why so many people think nationalism is dangerous and patriotism is not. Understanding that will hopefully help give you a deeper understanding of the difference between the two.
First of all, nationalism often leads to revolution and war. Patriotism usually does not. In fact, nationalism was one of the primary causes of both World War I and World War 2.
Second, nationalism is exclusionary. Patriotism does not have to be. Nationalism creates this in-group/out-group mentality, and often justifies doing whatever possible to help just one nation while ignoring, neglecting, or even hurting other nations. This automatically makes every global issue an “us vs. them” issue. You’re either with us or against us! Novelist George Orwell was a big critic of nationalism. He once said, “A nationalist is one who thinks...mainly in terms of competitive prestige...his thoughts always turn on victories, defeats, triumphs, and humiliations.”
And finally, the third problem with nationalism is that it often leads to breaking laws of other countries. Patriotism does not. With nationalism, the laws of one country always super cede the laws of all other countries. It also leads to the breaking of treaties. For example, time and time again we’ve seen countries break the Geneva Conventions due to nationalism.
In conclusion, remembering the difference between patriotism and nationalism should is key to recognizing how nationalism could be a threat to world peace. Yes, individual countries should have sovereignty, but cooperation between sovereign nations is the way forward if we want humans to stick around for awhile. And I like humans. I really do! They’re great.

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  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe nationalism isn't as bad as folks say it is. What did I get wrong about nationalism? And it's true. I meant what I said. I like humans.

  • @Debre.

    @Debre.

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't know whether this is intentional or not, but this comment sounds like something Donald would say.

  • @NormanMStewart

    @NormanMStewart

    5 жыл бұрын

    The nationalism seen in Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan is just the most extreme form of nationalism. Nationalism is just fine, _in moderation_ . When taken to the extremes, well, you get Nazi Germany. Also, while world co-operation or globalism is a somewhat noble concept, it's also incredibly naive. There will always be conflict, whether nationalism plays a role or not. Also, just because the Kaisers, the Nazis, the Fascists, the supremacists were nationalists doesn't inherently make nationalism bad. It's like calling Social Democrats "Marxist-Leninists". Just as absurd. That's guilt by association. If I have a suggestion, it's that we should favor _civic-nationalism_ over militarist-nationalism (the latter is Nazi Germany). Civic-nationalism is much closer to patriotism. Comment for the commenters: Anyone who thinks POTUS Trump is a militarist-nationalist is either incredibly misguided or a conspiracy theorist. I may not like him as a person, but let's not go on another mass hysteria over what he said.

  • @lothairemordredshirkmedia127

    @lothairemordredshirkmedia127

    5 жыл бұрын

    Obviously you don't know what the hell you're talking about in this video is laughable and childlike by using puppets. I think it's kind of funny and laughable how pathetic your definition or logic it really is child life. Let me actually give you a definition. That actually is a true definition of what is nationalism is identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations It's kind of funny that you mention about wars with nationalism who starts more worse than. Then the United States o yeah the UN the globalist. Thanks to the UN we've been peer pressured into war so many times it's not even funny. And Donald Trump is leaving Syria so this is already debunked by itself... And Japan and Germany back in the 1940s during World War II they wanted a One World Government that's pretty globalist. And the opposite of what is naturalism

  • @abhisheksamanta1

    @abhisheksamanta1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @infohell the gothic Republican: let me tell you the crucial part of your definition of nationalism: "especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations". That is the scariest part of all. Nothing is wrong about loving your country, the problem begins when your love manifests by hating others. I hope you understand the difference. Here is the mathematical representation of nationalism: Nationalism = Patriotism + (Hate for other nations - Empathy for human being as a whole) Have a great day.

  • @NormanMStewart

    @NormanMStewart

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Debre. Let's not be naive.

  • @Mr_DPZ
    @Mr_DPZ3 жыл бұрын

    The way I've always seen it: -Patriotism: I love my nation, but not at the expense of others. -Nationalism: I don't necessarily dislike other nations, but the interests of mine supersede all others. -Jingoism: I detest any nation that is not my own.

  • @lalitthapa101

    @lalitthapa101

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism IMO is "my country is better than the ones surrounding it". Patriotism acknowledges the good things your nation has done like I'm Indian and I'm patriotic cause my nation has always been secular and accepted every religion with open arms,has never invaded any nation and is one of the Main proponants of peace and cooperation. Nationalism is me giving negatives of other nations to put my own in a higher pedestal like "India is better than its every neigbour and you I'll show you my strength if I have to prove it" That's just my take though

  • @mekingtiger9095

    @mekingtiger9095

    2 жыл бұрын

    The thing with the word "nationalism" is that it originally just meant the abstract idea that peoples clump together to form "nations". A "nation" in this sense being defined as "A large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory". So, following this classic, original definition, anyone who believes in such concept is technically a "nationalist". Nationalism for a given specific group of people would mean that you believe that these form a legitimate "nation" based on a set of shared common traits. Because of this, a "nation" can be anything if you "play" a little with Set Theory by pointing out any amounts of common traits that a group of people has. This is where the various types of Nationalism rise up, from Territorial Nationalism, to Ethnonacionalism, Racial Nationalism, Cultural Nationalism, Civic Nationalism and many others. And believe it or not, but there are actual racial nationalists who do not wish any harm to other "races". They just want to live in relative isolation from what they perceive are different races. So how do we define them in this context if they not always seek war? Keep in mind that a nation isn't the same as a nation-state, which is just the governmental body who theoretically represents its respective "nation". This is what gives "nationalism" such a confusing definition. A "nation" is something so abstract, so subjective based around what makes a symbolic "unification factor", that it can mean _anything._ Imo, using the term "patriotism" isn't even correct (unless, maybe, you mean the actual devotion to a nation rather than just simply believing in its legitimate existence, in which case patriotism _can_ be a bad thing since devotion can come up in many forms...) and this is my biggest critique with nationalism as a whole: Because since cultures and mindsets change every damn time, including the weavering wills of a people to just either accept the rule or to want to piss off from their current territory with separatism, "nationalism" is not absolute and is something almost akin to a literal myth or religion (if not entirely so)! Also, I believe that what people think of the word "patriotism" is actually the concept of "Civic Nationalism". I.E, the concept that you don't have to share a given heritage or culture to be a part of a nation. It's much more open ended and is the type of Nationalism _(supposed_ to be...) practiced by the United States. The problem, though, arises with the question: If anyone can just come in and say he's a part of a nation with something as simple and superficial as a mere piece of paper, does nationalism even hold any ground anymore? If anything, it just proves even further how pointless this abstraction ultimately is.

  • @ericboom1712

    @ericboom1712

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lalitthapa101 in my nation it's the opposite.

  • @buttkid3548

    @buttkid3548

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism: I dislike brown people, and brown immigrants. I'm unaware of illegal white immigrants. I'm gullible, and will swallow any lie my orange master tells me. I will attack my own country for a lie.

  • @progamerbufovi

    @progamerbufovi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@buttkid3548 bruh that's not what nationalism is about

  • @brianholmes1812
    @brianholmes18123 жыл бұрын

    Personally I've always diffenciated the two like this Patriotism: this is my favourite country Nationalism: this is the best country

  • @lucabralia5125

    @lucabralia5125

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would put it this way Patriotism: I love my country Nationalism: Every other country is worse than mine, and they must submit this is the european defintion, obviously other countries think of nationalism with a different meaning

  • @alexandrebertrand1069

    @alexandrebertrand1069

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucabralia5125 More like the european definition changed because of imperalism and prejudice, but back in the XIXth century, nationalism was the a left wing idea. The italian nationalism of the XIXth century and the vietnamese nationalism of the XXth both want the same thing.

  • @lucabralia5125

    @lucabralia5125

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexandrebertrand1069 When did I even say that it could only be a right wing idea, obviosuly left wing nationalism can exist.

  • @alexandrebertrand1069

    @alexandrebertrand1069

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucabralia5125 Oh I never claimed that you said that, I just wanted to give more precisions on how things are in Europe. It's became more of a taboo than anything to be honest.

  • @lucabralia5125

    @lucabralia5125

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexandrebertrand1069 ok

  • @seanfoudy8829
    @seanfoudy88293 жыл бұрын

    Love this quote: "The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war." Sydney J. Harris

  • @GodmadeTrends

    @GodmadeTrends

    2 жыл бұрын

    Although it’s not the country that does anything, it’s the people that are in control at that particular time. Once you overstand that and can separate the two, there’s no problem in loving your country no matter who’s in charge and whether they’re doing good or bad

  • @whitegluestick6039

    @whitegluestick6039

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you explain all the revolutions cuased by nationalism than?

  • @ChJuHu93

    @ChJuHu93

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GodmadeTrends If you seperate the people and their politics from the country is there anything left except for the geography to begin with?

  • @GodmadeTrends

    @GodmadeTrends

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChJuHu93 yes there is much more left imo than the geography. The culture, tradition, history, the landscape, the climate the list goes on

  • @mattthelearner2797

    @mattthelearner2797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting surname "Harris" ....

  • @heinrichbierhals-wn1xz
    @heinrichbierhals-wn1xz Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this distinction! Everyone keeps insulting me because I'm a German nationalist, which I'm not, I'm Patriotic, sure I used to be a nationalist, but that was because I was blinded by the Nazi Regime into thinking I was better than everyone else and that my country was superior to all the other countries. You are a good man, Mr. Beat.

  • @debrachambers1304

    @debrachambers1304

    11 ай бұрын

    Damn, we don't see people this old on KZread very often.

  • @choporchubbzda1

    @choporchubbzda1

    9 ай бұрын

    It’s honestly incredible to hear from somebody who was alive during that era and to hear you’ve denounced the nazi rhetoric! It must have been a challenge considering how prominent it was during ww2 and even after, but you should feel proud of yourself for being able to! Much love from America

  • @leobe2104

    @leobe2104

    9 күн бұрын

    Wow, ich dachte erst du meinst einige Nazis heutzutage. Dass jemand der das erlebt hat grade auf KZread ist...wow

  • @heimlershistory
    @heimlershistory5 жыл бұрын

    Glad someone is making this distinction. I grew up learning that it was bad to have pride in America. Then I started traveling the world and it seemed like people from other countries seemed very happy to be Brazilian or Italian or whatever. I think that’s when I started understanding the difference in nationalism and patriotism. Anyway, the difference is so helpful because I sure do like America, despite her sins. Good work on this one...

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well thank you colleague. It's a distinction I think is important.

  • @jaxonkaeller8730

    @jaxonkaeller8730

    3 жыл бұрын

    Woah, it’s the guy who singlehandedly helped thousands of kids earn fives in multiple AP classes, including me.

  • @maybethisismarq

    @maybethisismarq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tarik Hodzic I would change that statement to you “should be” not “have to be”. Have to be sounds very forceful.

  • @drdukesgaming993

    @drdukesgaming993

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heimler's History t

  • @rockhardmemes2203

    @rockhardmemes2203

    3 жыл бұрын

    my ap world history teacher shows us ur vids all the time

  • @lukedetering4490
    @lukedetering44905 жыл бұрын

    Video Idea: What exactly is political correctness

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a fantastic idea

  • @ilikedota5

    @ilikedota5

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat personally, I think it is an issue, but an exaggerated one, and the bigger issue are the countless videos making fun of it and at the same time, being toxic while not helping

  • @royakuma4144

    @royakuma4144

    5 жыл бұрын

    Political correctness is a tool to ensure the perks of the top 1%. Since emphasizing identity politics hides the truth that US is actually a pyramid society with harsh social class conflicts by income and property disparities other than race or gender or ethnicity

  • @sagesheahan6732

    @sagesheahan6732

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat Agreed. I'd love see you do a video on that.

  • @sociallymatti

    @sociallymatti

    5 жыл бұрын

    Political Purity; usually in the Social Sense

  • @big8dog887
    @big8dog8873 жыл бұрын

    A patriot is like a parent who loves his child unconditionally, and wants that child to be the best he can be, and to that end, is willing to do the necessary, but sometimes unpleasant work of correcting that child when he behaves inappropriately. A nationalist is like a parent who refuses to acknowledge that his child ever does anything wrong, spoils him rotten, and the child becomes an insufferable asshole.

  • @wasifzakwan8722

    @wasifzakwan8722

    3 жыл бұрын

    Patriotism is like being chill like Yea my country is cool but it could be better. But nationalism is like MY COUNTRY IS THE BEST AND NOTHING IS BETTER!!

  • @theicelandicnationalist2.023

    @theicelandicnationalist2.023

    3 жыл бұрын

    This isn’t true tho

  • @bobbyhill1110

    @bobbyhill1110

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except many nationalists do acknowledge their nation's faults and mistakes and want to improve from it. This is all just subversions and changing of definitiona

  • @theicelandicnationalist2.023

    @theicelandicnationalist2.023

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbyhill1110 you just read me like a book

  • @tx6723

    @tx6723

    3 жыл бұрын

    As long as you don't hit your child acceptable

  • @DarjeelingEnjoyer
    @DarjeelingEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын

    My take is this: Patriotism: I love my country but I don't tell everyone that we're the greatest and I acknowledge our faults and try to be better. Nationalism: We are the greatest and are superior to other nations. We should be first in everything and we should not care about other nations

  • @nojatha4637

    @nojatha4637

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, a nationalist can still see the faults in their own country and still want to make it better while also thinking it’s superior to others. And caring for other nations goes as far as how much it would benefit the country.

  • @RodericSpode

    @RodericSpode

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nojatha4637 I agree that a nationalist can see the faults in their own country and want to make it better, but my experience is that most nationalists idea of making the country better is to make it more nationalistic. Most nationalists that I've encountered aren't travelers, or really interested in any other countries or cultures. To them the familiar is the best. to the point where the positive attributes and problems of the unfamiliar are inconsequential to them.

  • @Flowey-the-Flower

    @Flowey-the-Flower

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're a disgusting fabbot

  • @brycenowell563

    @brycenowell563

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Lyallpuriya

    @Lyallpuriya

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like both

  • @Basedindividual
    @Basedindividual5 жыл бұрын

    Here in Scotland we don’t consider nationalism bad.

  • @salokin3087

    @salokin3087

    5 жыл бұрын

    Different contextual situations, its similar to Irish nationalism in simply wanting a state and representative government

  • @Basedindividual

    @Basedindividual

    5 жыл бұрын

    Salokin true

  • @snoopy4216

    @snoopy4216

    5 жыл бұрын

    As a fellow scotsman, the reason why nationalism here isn't seen so bad generally cause of the snp which has the word, nationalism in it, however they are a very left leaning and globalist party

  • @danieldeburgh8437

    @danieldeburgh8437

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@salokin3087 yep. Nationalism here in Ireland is seen as the moderate side and a republican is extreme

  • @gadyariv2456

    @gadyariv2456

    5 жыл бұрын

    Scotland has the oddest nationalists in the world. usually, nationalists are right winged hardliners. I think Scotland is the only country in which a nationalist party is a center-left party. most nationalists around the globe are more like the English Tories

  • @Anon-vd4xd
    @Anon-vd4xd5 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism is a very strong force. It can be used for great purposes, Or very bad ones.

  • @Michael-yl2iq

    @Michael-yl2iq

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kind of like socialism, capitalism, religion, political correctness.......

  • @Michael-yl2iq

    @Michael-yl2iq

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Frog Patriotic Yes capitalism can ignore external factors that are not currently part of its business model and has no self interest in correcting. If the government doesn't correct for this issue the strong force of capitalism can create a huge problem. For example a pollution created by the business that it doesn't incur the cost of creating. A business does not naturally incur cost such as labor and materials. It has no reason to voluntarily incur cost. Example would be China and its growing issue with massive pollution. The government does not force cost to be incurred by creator so it is not corrected.

  • @Michael-yl2iq

    @Michael-yl2iq

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry was unclear there "A business does not naturally incur cost of pollution like it does for labor and materials." Hope I didn't confuse the issue.

  • @Anon-vd4xd

    @Anon-vd4xd

    5 жыл бұрын

    M socialism always sucks lol, Just like political correctness.

  • @Michael-yl2iq

    @Michael-yl2iq

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Anon-vd4xd I will admit that certain aspects of a Capitalist ( my favorite) economic political system requires social programs. Socialism itself always sucks and so does communism.

  • @tirididjdjwieidiw1138
    @tirididjdjwieidiw11382 жыл бұрын

    i mean nationalism as seen in germany and japan during the 30’s is the most extreme case of nationalism. nationalism has also done plenty of good things in history, like the close ties that nationalism had to democracy back in the early 1800’s. and also the idea of the nation state. this type of nationalism is actually called civic nationalism instead of the more common idea of what nationalism is which is ethnic nationalism.

  • @Lucas_70

    @Lucas_70

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @maxz69

    @maxz69

    Жыл бұрын

    That wasn't nationalism. That was ultra-nationalism. HUGE difference.

  • @rextheelder7998

    @rextheelder7998

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shubhsiddhartha9409 fascism isn’t a subset of nationalism. Nationalism is a trait of fascism.

  • @gunn-brittslagochetik2863

    @gunn-brittslagochetik2863

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shubhsiddhartha9409 ultranationalism is a trait of fascism, but not the entire ideology

  • @xhinted690
    @xhinted6903 жыл бұрын

    Here in Spain the term "nationalism" is much better considered than "patriotism" in fact we think that the toxic and exclusive one is patriotism, so it's not an universal definition. Here and in many other countries, like Romania, Finland or the UK the term nationalism is also frequently used to describe the concept of identification to a "nation" whose territory is determined by a ethnic, cultural or linguistical common identity instead of one whose territory is just defined by its borders. While patriotism is commonly understood as a toxic or jingoistic version of the first.

  • @lucabralia5125

    @lucabralia5125

    3 жыл бұрын

    In Italy it's the exact opposite

  • @cherish3it
    @cherish3it5 жыл бұрын

    That extended evil laugh though

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mwhahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog19895 жыл бұрын

    The snippet claiming former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher hated the EU was only half true. Yes she didn't care much about it towards the end of her time in 10 Downing Street, but believe it or not, she was one of the leading campaigners for UK to join what was in 1975 the European Economic Community (EEC). Indeed, she maintained, "it is not me that has changed, the EU has changed." She felt, rightly or wrongly, that the sovereignty of nations was being threatened by the EU becoming more centralised. She said "... Europe has been at its best when Spain is Spain, France is France, Britain as Britain, each maintaining their own unique identity and customs,"

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh snap. Dropping some knowledge in the comment section!

  • @SiVlog1989

    @SiVlog1989

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat you mentioned before in a live video that you mainly focus on US history, but if you need some digging into things to do with the UK for example, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do to help

  • @SiVlog1989

    @SiVlog1989

    5 жыл бұрын

    @U Haul indeed, my late grandfather (who passed away just over a month before the Brexit referendum, aged 91) said in his final days, "if I had the chance I would vote remain, not because the EU is perfect, but because of the alternative being worse," he was well placed to say this as he served with the Royal Navy in WW2 and provided a supporting role in the D-Day landings, June 6th 1944. He had seen these nationalistic tendancies before and didn't want it to happen again

  • @SiVlog1989

    @SiVlog1989

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Patriot Teen I am well aware that the EU is far from perfect. The inclusion of Greece as a member for example when the authorities in Athens (it transpired later) fudged the numbers to mask how weak their financial situation was. However, with the increasingly global threat of any form of terrorism, Europe needs more cooperation, not having all nations stick their middle fingers up at each other. We in the UK, even though we have been in the EU in various guises since the 1970's, have never fully subscribed to the way nations in continental Europe have gone, doing away with border checks and having a common currency. We have kept the Pound Sterling, we never joined the Schengen Area (part of the aforementioned lack of border checks between nations) and we have the type G plug outlet. When using the ferry from Dover to Calais for example, you have to pass through security and border controls with the ferry acting as a bridge across the English Channel. There is an overly simplified view that if a nation is a member of the EU they must have unmanned borders, that is not true for everywhere. Take a look at Slovenia, one of the Balkans nations, the first former Yugoslav Republic to become independent, their border with Croatia, despite being 2 EU member nations, is staffed by police. There's other people who point out, "hang on, the UK does have an unmanned border with another nation, Ireland." That's true, however, it is not connected directly to the EU as such. It actually has more to do with the Good Friday Agreement. The checkpoints on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland were taken down after the signing of the agreement in 1998. In answer to your question though, the truth is that although I voted, it was not because I was swayed by the rhetoric of one side or the other. I voted remain, for my own reasons, partly because I felt like it was the least worst option. As far as I was concerned, the rhetoric from the leave campaign was unrealistic (and it later turned out that there were shady aspects to the campaign) and the remain campaign tried to scare people to vote remain, which backfired when the results were announced. I felt that the build up to the referendum was the very last thing the nation needed, we needed (and still do) need to keep our eyes peeled for the real enemies, those who want to insight fear and chaos in the hearts of those like the US and Europe. All it succeeded in doing was turn people against each other. I just despaired at the population of the nation tearing itself apart like this for nothing better than to fulfill politicians' egos (like Boris "born in the USA" Johnson, Micheal Gove and Priti Patel)

  • @judsongaiden9878

    @judsongaiden9878

    4 жыл бұрын

    Addendum to that fun fact: Ronald Reagan was a liberal Democrat throughout most of his life.

  • @CapitalTeeth
    @CapitalTeeth8 ай бұрын

    I refuse the notion that nationalism means pride in your nation at the expense of other nations. Without nationalism, the modern nation-state simply would not exist. France for the French, Poland for the Poles, Italy for the Italians, etc... Nationalism to me is not an ideology. It's an idea, a concept.

  • @leobe2104

    @leobe2104

    9 күн бұрын

    That's what nationalism was maybe 100 to 200 years ago, but the meaning of it changed and just can't be applied to today's society the way it existed back then. Nowadays, rhethoric like "Poland to the Poles" etc. are xenophobic and extreme. People should accept that every country should be open to everyone (who is willing to be respectful and integrate), regardless of nationality and ethnicity

  • @lucaslevinsky8802
    @lucaslevinsky88023 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism should not mistaken as Ultranationalism

  • @laniedulay4043

    @laniedulay4043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whats that?

  • @rhynoklein7
    @rhynoklein74 жыл бұрын

    I try arguing this all the time lately. Because I’m a veteran people assume that I’m a nationalist but I tell them I’m a patriot and then have to explain the two away because of the current climate and even then they dismiss me. Thank you for a great video!

  • @mekingtiger9095

    @mekingtiger9095

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deleteduser1877 ???

  • @binbows2258

    @binbows2258

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deleteduser1877 makes 0 sense

  • @dantegoat8568

    @dantegoat8568

    Жыл бұрын

    soldiers kill people for their country. that's more nationalistic than a Na_i political activist. it doesn't matter how you feel about it, you're a nationalist. EDIT: i'd like to make a correction - a soldier can be patriotic who fights in a defensive war for their country. american vets are not patriots, they're nationalists, the disasters in vietnam, iraq and afghanistan prove that. I myself like nationalism, but it's best to not be in denial.

  • @mosterchife6045

    @mosterchife6045

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deleteduser1877 Neither is inherently genetic, though nationalism is usually more genetic.

  • @icantcomeupwithagoodusername
    @icantcomeupwithagoodusername4 жыл бұрын

    My dad described it this way: Patriot: "I'm glad to live in my country because it's great" Nationalist: "I'm proud to be from my country because it's the greatest"

  • @ryanhuntrajput474

    @ryanhuntrajput474

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice analogy 👍🏼

  • @RichardSumakitis

    @RichardSumakitis

    Жыл бұрын

    Nationalism: My country right or wrong. Patriotism: My country to commend when right but to correct when wrong.

  • @benjaminkovacs3922
    @benjaminkovacs39222 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism: I love my country's people Patriotism: I love my country and land

  • @DistrosProjects
    @DistrosProjects Жыл бұрын

    An old history textbook I had in 8th grade claimed that nationalism was "pride in one's country," which is a much better definition for patriotism than nationalism. What was described was nationalism.

  • @yf.f4919

    @yf.f4919

    10 ай бұрын

    Nationalism should be considered just as "the sense of belonging to a nation (aka a group of people that identify in some common values). Everything else is adding adjectives.

  • @nomen8603

    @nomen8603

    9 ай бұрын

    That s because the definition of the video isn't politically neutral

  • @WanderingRusski
    @WanderingRusski5 жыл бұрын

    The way i think of it is "Nationalism is the political implementation of Patriotism".

  • @gladonos3384

    @gladonos3384

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always thought of it as: Patriotism: Love for your country and desire to see it improve. Nationalism: Believing your country to be superior to the rest of the world. Fascism: Political implementation of nationalism.

  • @WanderingRusski

    @WanderingRusski

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gladonos3384 Think of it like this, Patriotism is a feeling "I Like/Love My Country!" Nationalism is a Political Ideology where public policy is put in place to perverse and further and protect the nation and its identity. So that feeling of loving your country and its history and heritage, Nationalism means putting Patriotism into action making sure the country is put first. Fascism is when the government exerts complete control of the whole country from social to economic matters for a national revival in a form of Ultra Nationalism most but not all Fascist states tend to be become Imperialist and are more then often Supremacist in their thinking. You can be a Nationalist and believe in Liberal Democracy, but you can also be a Monarchist, Socialist, Minarchist, and yes even Fascist but Nationalism isn't in and of itself a supremacist idea. I hope this helped :)

  • @gladonos3384

    @gladonos3384

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WanderingRusski Ohhhhh... I like those definitions. Nice.

  • @hellboy6507

    @hellboy6507

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gladonos3384 Fascism is a bit more complicated than that. In fact, you don't necessarily need nationalism to be fascism. Mr. Beat has another video on this.

  • @TrollinFromFlask

    @TrollinFromFlask

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gladonos3384 You don't have to believe your country is superior to all others be a nationalist, that belief just tends to attach itself. You don't have to be a nationalist to be a fascist the same way you don't have to be white to be racist. That is propaganda from one side of politics.

  • @jiggy7108
    @jiggy71085 ай бұрын

    patriotism: love of one's country nationalism: love of one's nation

  • @x0cx102
    @x0cx1023 жыл бұрын

    Glad you gave concise definitions of patriotism and nationalism and the distinction between the two at the beginning and stuck with it throughout the video. It really helped with the points that followed.

  • @Gallalad1
    @Gallalad15 жыл бұрын

    I would say your understanding is very American. For example here in Ireland to call oneself a nationalist means merely you wish to see the reunification of Ireland. It is often synonymous with republican (the Irish version of that word) and often indicates you're in fact left wing not right wing

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well I do refer to American dictionaries. I do recognize that the term means different things in different parts of the world.

  • @Gallalad1

    @Gallalad1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat I don't mean it as an insult or a jab. Merely an interesting observation. I always find it fascinating how Brits and Americans see things. Usually it's very different to my own country and so I enjoy learning a little

  • @araxiel569

    @araxiel569

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd say that difference in meaning and attached connotations is also very strongly tied to historical (and current) standing of said nations. Being a Irish nationalist can be seen as something positive, since Ireland and the Irish have historically been oppressed and colonised by the English, and lacked an independent sovereign nation for a very long time. The same rings true for other colonised people. That said, the right has become extremely adapt at stealing and twisting progressive language for their own means. This is why they are trying to make it sound as if the EU is a colonizing power or the US federal government is a tyrannical foreign government enslaving and exploiting... Idaho. Which is factually absurd to make this sound like colonialism; the Native American's didn't voluntarily join the US and the don't get veto power in the government, and neither did the Indians of the British Raj in Asia.

  • @aidancrawford9364

    @aidancrawford9364

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat *respects Irish people and their differences* now THATS american patriotism

  • @Murph_gaming

    @Murph_gaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    Definitely nothing wrong with wanting to see a united Ireland, as an American I hope that someday that happens for you guys. The National Party of Ireland seems to be far-Right(in US terms) and very much trying to stir up anti-immigrant sentiment when Ireland as a whole is 96% white.

  • @mstandish
    @mstandish5 жыл бұрын

    Beware the comments. Here be dragons.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    I ain't afraid.

  • @PierreaSweedieCat

    @PierreaSweedieCat

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat And the goblins? What of the Pete's?

  • @emilandreasson9670

    @emilandreasson9670

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rawr xD

  • @christianweibrecht6555

    @christianweibrecht6555

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is this a reference to cyphers 10 slavery myths comment section?

  • @somerandomguy4919

    @somerandomguy4919

    5 жыл бұрын

    More like a Hydra

  • @dogcowrph
    @dogcowrph3 жыл бұрын

    I love Mr. Beats videos. It’s wish there were an hour of new content every day. But I watch everything that he releases. I just wanted to chime in after I realized that We have arched just about all of them.

  • @D00MMAST3R
    @D00MMAST3R2 жыл бұрын

    1:25 What a flag to choose, especially given current events.

  • @takodapowers8515

    @takodapowers8515

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know you literally have a flag in your profile picture that represents the OUN?!?! 😂 You know they massacred over 100k Polish and Jewish people? 😂

  • @jamesll902

    @jamesll902

    Жыл бұрын

    @@takodapowers8515 good

  • @j-dog7767
    @j-dog77674 жыл бұрын

    I love my country and think it’s the greatest, and also care about other people in other countries, and want to make their lives better. Yes we exist.

  • @mohamedf8859

    @mohamedf8859

    3 жыл бұрын

    A hidden Nationalism

  • @mohamedf8859

    @mohamedf8859

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism

  • @Mitchery

    @Mitchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mohamedf8859 Incorrect, that's Patroitism.

  • @mohamedf8859

    @mohamedf8859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mitchery The greatest country in the world killed millions and damaged minds by its media and Brian washing by media lies or by stupid conspiracy theories

  • @mohamedf8859

    @mohamedf8859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mitchery with moral degeneration in the name of freedom which is a slavery of Desris

  • @whm_w8833
    @whm_w88335 жыл бұрын

    Puppet fights should not be censored. It has history of best fight scenes. :D

  • @Curseddimension
    @Curseddimension2 жыл бұрын

    This is an excellent video. In fact, in my opinion, it might just be one of the best videos on KZread, if not the single best video.

  • @Matzu-Music
    @Matzu-Music Жыл бұрын

    I always understood patriotism to be more a passive feeling, whereas nationalism is an active feeling

  • @unicoosh9173
    @unicoosh91735 жыл бұрын

    Great video man. This made these ideas more clear . Faith in humanity restored whenever I see people like you on KZread . You are a great teacher sir.

  • @dannyvladi1199
    @dannyvladi11995 жыл бұрын

    "Unless breaking them helps us, amiright? *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA"* 👌👌

  • @Kriegter
    @Kriegter2 жыл бұрын

    So you're saying Nationalism is like twitter, patriotism isn't?

  • @Cherry-bq4oh
    @Cherry-bq4oh9 ай бұрын

    You're a good guy, Mr Beat. I think your channel is one of the few that take an approach that I'd actually call "Balanced." Keep it up!

  • @coltsavage4490
    @coltsavage44905 жыл бұрын

    I like prager U but even I have to admit, when they said that Hitler wasn't a nationlist. I was thinking what?

  • @coltsavage4490

    @coltsavage4490

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pepethefrog8116 I agree, prager u will give a platform for anyone who bashes the left, even anti Semites like Owen Benjamin.

  • @rohantumkur7915

    @rohantumkur7915

    4 жыл бұрын

    Van der Linde yes it’s difficult nowadays to find media sources that aren’t biased and it sucks because lots of people tend to gravitate towards media that agrees with their views and it becomes an echo chamber and the political divide gets deeper and deeper.

  • @milkman4178

    @milkman4178

    4 жыл бұрын

    Half of their videos are helpful, but the other half is so biased it changes facts

  • @firefyfe6211

    @firefyfe6211

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao you like PragerU? Ahahahaha

  • @coltsavage4490

    @coltsavage4490

    4 жыл бұрын

    I used to like Prager U

  • @markfennell1167
    @markfennell11675 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism includes putting your own country first. Take care of our own. A government that is for our needs first.

  • @obeb787

    @obeb787

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but that isn't really a good or smart idea! It's not even in our own best interest to act that selfishly.

  • @solomontruthlover5308

    @solomontruthlover5308

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/mqegsrCjoca-fc4.html

  • @Wayzor_

    @Wayzor_

    3 жыл бұрын

    As long as you're white.

  • @raegonthe5

    @raegonthe5

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats just patriotism

  • @wyleFTW

    @wyleFTW

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wayzor_ and rich

  • @brianrosenlof388
    @brianrosenlof388 Жыл бұрын

    This is an excellent video, thank you!

  • @josephgilliana9213
    @josephgilliana92133 жыл бұрын

    BRO, THANK YOU, I ACTUALLY ENJOY THIS CHANNEL, AND YES THESE CAPS ARE ON PURPOSE, NOW I CAN FINALLY SETTLE A DEBATE.

  • @michealtivet
    @michealtivet5 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your videos so, thank you for your passion and dedication to producing these videos. However, my shirt is blue today not green... LOL. Enjoy your day.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol thank you so much

  • @chrisnemec5644
    @chrisnemec56445 жыл бұрын

    Llevo una camisa azul. :( Very nice job trying to explain a hideously complicated issue. Another George Orwell quote I think fits here: "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, and dang Orwell knew how to put it well. :)

  • @Fat_Tony4224
    @Fat_Tony4224 Жыл бұрын

    Caught me lacking with the "there in the green shirt" lol. Great vid man!

  • @sharan4700
    @sharan47002 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for Fully Explaining with EXACT Clarity How those 2 Terms Differ. Will try to Make VIRAL !!!

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin30875 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the distinction. I'm a patriot as i love my country, but i want it to be better.

  • @robograham12

    @robograham12

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes precisely. Patriotism is love of country and the drive to hold one's country up to high standards. Nationalism is just blind loyalty to one's country/ethnicity.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    You two both get it.

  • @anon8979

    @anon8979

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@robograham12 whats wrong with loving your country/ethnicity mr beats whole vid is nationalism leads to war but completely ignores the wars for muh democracy.

  • @mrjebix

    @mrjebix

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@anon8979 How did you miss the point? Jesus motherfucking christ....

  • @anon8979

    @anon8979

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spottting It I’m not nationalism and patriotism are the same thing by definition

  • @MrShiro82
    @MrShiro824 жыл бұрын

    'The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.' - Sydney J. Harris

  • @stanislavkos3723
    @stanislavkos37233 жыл бұрын

    The thing with nationalism is that it can be everything from wanting self-rule to demanding land from another nation. For example in Czechia, nationalism was when Czechs wanted independence from Austria-Hungary but also it was nationalism when Hitler wanted to annex Sudetenland. Nationalism is what kills multi-national states(Austria-Hungary, Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia) and will do. Nationalism is bad when the nation has it's self-rule and patriotism for that country is not oppresed anywhere, but it's alright when the nation is prohibited from expresing itself and cannot decide about itself.

  • @ricosuave7102
    @ricosuave71022 жыл бұрын

    The problem is that what’s good for us might not be good for them. Cooperation between nations is a tricky thing and needs to be looked at from as many perspectives as possible.

  • @randyjax09
    @randyjax095 жыл бұрын

    I love it when educated people debunk that nonsense from PragerU. Keep it up! 👍

  • @aaronbradley3232

    @aaronbradley3232

    5 жыл бұрын

    A lot of stuff they say is like right on but then you know some of the stuff they say completely contradicts other stuff they say and then still other stuff makes absolutely no sense like I used to be a very big fan of them and it sure as hell beats liberal pathetically correct bulshit what you probably called politically correct but it's just f****** pathetic. However they went down the wrong road to the point that they're just not making any sense anymore. And I was a huge supporter of them early on that because I posted a very long comment calling them out on their s*** and unsubscribed they Banned Me from their Channel but you know what f*** them because I don't know what the hell they're point is anymore I mean early on they were right on but now when I just have no idea what they're even about. However they still beat liberal political correctness. Get it they Beat ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words. :D

  • @Xx_BoogieBomber_xX

    @Xx_BoogieBomber_xX

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand people's problems with political correctness. Are they itching to say the n-word or something?

  • @hamishfatcat3385

    @hamishfatcat3385

    5 жыл бұрын

    @U Haul political correctness is not being a dick

  • @freeman7296

    @freeman7296

    5 жыл бұрын

    We all like propagandists debunked - unfortunately there are many more to fill that space. I don't know enough about Pager U to really comment, but if they are misleading - it's good to have some honest people around to set the story straight. We could use more anti propagandists to counter the left wing lies we live with every day.

  • @zach7193
    @zach71935 жыл бұрын

    That was good, Mr. Beat. More comedic than the electoral college you did a while back.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was? Well thank you. That means a lot.

  • @killerkraut9179

    @killerkraut9179

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not Realy

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi47433 жыл бұрын

    Well said, Mr. Beat. And Patriotism is what we all really need right now, instead of nationalism. You can still love America and hope for more improvement for America.

  • @WolfpackPodcastOfficial
    @WolfpackPodcastOfficial3 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! Helped me sort this out!

  • @Nemy10X
    @Nemy10X5 жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal video Mr. Beat

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :D

  • @opalcourt6873
    @opalcourt68735 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Really appreciate the clarity of your presentation. Learned a lot.

  • @KoziPLUS
    @KoziPLUS Жыл бұрын

    It was thanks to nationalism that so many countries became free from imperial rule (say my home country of Poland). I think nationalism could have both positive and negative connotations, depending on the situation. Even do nationalism has a negative connotation, according to the first amendment, people are free to express it, unless they live elsewhere in the world.

  • @oklahomasoonersfootball
    @oklahomasoonersfootball2 жыл бұрын

    good video thank you very much . Hope you have a good day. this masterpiece is very good.

  • @EforEvery
    @EforEvery5 жыл бұрын

    The U.S. Leaders and apologists: Countries should have sovereignty! 8:45 Mr. Beat: Countries should have sovereignty of course... The same U.S. Leaders and apologists: Wait, you're not in favor of sovereignty for all the countries we intervene in though right? Like Iraq in 2003, Syria present day, South Vietnam in 1963, Guatemala in 1954, Iran in 1953, Chile in 1973, Nicaragua and Cuba (this is constant) alongside Honduras, and all of the democracies we repressed to help achieve the goals of Operation Condor? You don't mean for those countries, right sir? Mr. Beat: Yes, sovereignty is universal. Neocons: WOW, what a treasonous criminal! Who do you think you are? Believing in PRINCIPLES! RADICAL!

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol how astute of you, young man! And PragerU, the same channel that regularly defends British imperialism.

  • @BlueTyphoon2017

    @BlueTyphoon2017

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Beat Can you debunk Prager u on something that other youtubers haven’t debunked them on, Or debunk any other Anti-SJW youtuber? (I hate SJW’s as well though)

  • @hamishfatcat3385

    @hamishfatcat3385

    5 жыл бұрын

    But muh communisim but muh chemical wepons

  • @hamishfatcat3385

    @hamishfatcat3385

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BlueTyphoon2017 I dislike liberal SJW'S leftist sjw's are alot smarter

  • @mathieuleader8601

    @mathieuleader8601

    5 жыл бұрын

    look at Chile and Greneda

  • @bereftspud279
    @bereftspud2795 жыл бұрын

    Mr Beat taking on PragerU? Yay!

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's low-hanging fruit, really.

  • @saskcom2400

    @saskcom2400

    5 жыл бұрын

    @U Haul why you so mad kid?

  • @allanroberts5689
    @allanroberts56892 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism is just racism and sexism applied to a state. Both have the same principles.

  • @waterknot1
    @waterknot1 Жыл бұрын

    “The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also - since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself - unshakeably certain of being in the right.” George Orwell - Notes on nationslism

  • @Robin_Starsfall
    @Robin_Starsfall4 жыл бұрын

    Breathe of clean air in smog . Light of reason in darkness. Preach on, bro!

  • @rrob4206
    @rrob42064 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism and patriotism both show the relationship of an individual towards his or her nation. ... According to him, nationalism is a feeling that one's country is superior to another in all respects, while patriotism is merely a feeling of admiration for a way of life.

  • @KoziPLUS
    @KoziPLUS Жыл бұрын

    There’s also a distinction between civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism. Civic nationalism being the love of the state- nation (a state made up of multiple ethnicities, united in loyalty to the state) and not a nation-state (exclusionary definition of a people part of a ethnicity or larger nation, who believe that they have political destiny). Ethnic nationalism is essentially the exclusion of other people, as it emphasizes one’s love of the people over the state.

  • @kgthompson5814
    @kgthompson5814 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining this.

  • @RyanFilmMaker
    @RyanFilmMaker5 жыл бұрын

    excellent video

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much :D

  • @willluem8328
    @willluem83285 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Mr. Beat. I love how you can make complex ideologies more simple.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! That means a lot.

  • @DustyHoney
    @DustyHoney9 ай бұрын

    “You can’t divorce your wife.” “I don’t give a fuck, I’m the king.” “Apathy! My only weakness!” *fades away*

  • @tarashmarndi5371
    @tarashmarndi53713 жыл бұрын

    The way you explained through puppet show was amazing.👏☺️

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider19145 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism can mean many things. For example, Palastinians and the Catalans who wish for independence are nationalists. But so are Israelis and Spaniards who wish for unity.

  • @markfennell1167
    @markfennell11675 жыл бұрын

    Nationalist does NOT mean hating other countries. That is wrong. At least in America. Our view of nationalism is to take care of own nation first. Our needs first. Taxes to serve citizens first. For America the term nationalism never has meant dislike of ither nations. Rather that our needs come before others.

  • @aidancrawford9364

    @aidancrawford9364

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Felipe Correia Borges yeah I hate schools, roads, man I want to ditch healthcare and oh BOY do I hate firefighters, pssh, and then social security (honestly, who needs money when we are older anyway), I also wish we didn't have military because protection is BORING 🙄 (I like to live on the edge). Oh, and don't even get me started on those gosh darn food stamps that poor people need to survive because they could have worked harder in life (assuming none have been robbed, sued, wrongly arrested, or in an all put bad situation). No, I think we need taxation. Look up countries with the highest tax rate and then their happiness level. You might find something.

  • @aidancrawford9364

    @aidancrawford9364

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Felipe Correia Borges to be clear, people won't willingly give up money on their own to the government, which is why taxes have to be implemented. It is clear that as a large majority of people would not willingly do this (like you), and the government and country as a whole would collapse, as there would be nothing to support it. If you have the audacity and selfishness to think taxes are "theft" and shouldn't exist, which helps the entire population by giving them benefits that are crucial to survival and other things that people take for granted, are useless because of the fact that you don't have the freedom to give that money is nonsense. The ideology that you are portraying my friend, is anarchism. Think of it this way, in your hypothetical government, people have the right to choose, but very little do. You are low on money to redistribute and a form of an hierarchy begins to form, leading the top 0.1 percent filthy rich while everyone else is poor. It doesn't lead to a good economic system, and it will leave repercussions for a LONG time (take the Caste system in India for example, although its practices have ended people still have positions on an economic pyramid that are hard to get out of. People shouldn't be able to do whatever they want whenever they want, taxes are a universal solution to increase economic growth, equal rights, and distribution that benefits society as a whole. Edit: yes I know, causation doesnt equal correlation, but it's a little brain food for you, and the correlation is pretty similar.

  • @aidancrawford9364

    @aidancrawford9364

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Felipe Correia Borges that money that the government produced which the government taxed is their way of correctly and responsibly introducing it back into the economy, which ultimately can make goods cheaper. Every government that has ever succeeded has used taxes, and while they seem unethical, they would result in the end of you having a higher salary, because of the better economy while little to no taxes would create a system, where corporations would gain total power over the economy and would be able to control many aspects of daily life, and in my opinion, is a bit unethical. On your optional taxes part about the US and UK, I don't think its true, and even if it was the government pretty much controlled the economy and there was no private businesses and not much to tax or reasons to tax.

  • @aidancrawford9364

    @aidancrawford9364

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Felipe Correia Borges thanks, it has been civilized. I think we can respect each other's opinions, and it is only good to debate on the issues. Technically yes, taxation is theft, but without it you would need the exact correct circumstances to earn a solid economy with libertarian principals, hence why it has never worked well in the modern era. On the loot box issue, lots of games center their goals and aspects around them, and similar to the predicament with gambling, once you have spent $60 on a game, you might as well spend money on it. This creates an issue to which many of these mechanics are aimed towards children, and encourages them to gamble. In a lot of places where gambling is illegal but this is fine, which I think is wrong. Regulations are put in place from experience (past events or mishaps) and as long as people can freely express capitalist ideaologies without creating a negative impact on society is important. Moderation is key, and it is important to know that it's not either communism or libertarianism, moderation can be made and implemented. Thank you for having a civilized debate, and I also learned from this.

  • @nerdwisdomyo9563
    @nerdwisdomyo9563 Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @alicemonsell1352
    @alicemonsell13523 жыл бұрын

    always excellent and fun explanations! Also, trying to show how things and words change over time. I think a lot of people don't get "process", which is quite abstract. They look at a word as a thing stopped in time, but the context is always changing, thus how we interpret the words, and of course, there is just confusion, or not knowing that particular piece of information. That is why it is so important for you to clarify these tidbits, to avoid that other people abuse our lack of knowledge about a subject and distort it, I mean, lie, distort, confuse, veil, instead of what you do which is making things clear, which is a great way of cultivating equality and truth at a time when truth has become fuzzy.

  • @nomen8603

    @nomen8603

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is the definition of nationalism he offers here is a definition which "changed over time" by political issues(anti nationalist propaganda), it is a biased definition, I am not even a nationalist but you can see it clearly in history

  • @ThisisBarris
    @ThisisBarris5 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Mr. Beat. I think the distinction is extremely important, and people often forget it. Also loved the puppets.

  • @aaronbradley3232

    @aaronbradley3232

    5 жыл бұрын

    I disagree strongly with mr. V. His videos are great because he just has a certain charisma and presents things well but that doesn't hide the fact that I think he's wrong. His educational videos should be required learning especially the election series anyone who hasn't watched that is not a real fan of his. But I'm sorry I just as he's become more opinion oriented I've just drifted further away from him. But he likes humans I don't for the most part I mean until we even out things where the 1% doesn't control everything

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad you dug the puppets! Paul does such a great job.

  • @Cremig

    @Cremig

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aaronbradley3232 "until we even things out where the 1% doesn't control everything." Yeah, the evil rich people, you must life in a really simple world or lifted it's been 3 years

  • @JohnTrustworthy
    @JohnTrustworthy5 жыл бұрын

    "Love for ones country above all others" is the definition of chauvinism. Nationalism is the love for ones nation and people(s) while patriotism is the love of ones state and country. When the two delineate it usually means that the state no longer holds the best interests of the people. For example an ethnic group, lets say Scots, can be nationalistic but not patriotic. In that sense nationalism can betray patriotism. The same goes for France. The French state holds the human potential of its African pseudo-colonies above that of its own native French people. In that way a native Frenchman can not be both nationalistic and patriotic but a Nigerian immigrant to France can be.

  • @JamesMellis39

    @JamesMellis39

    3 жыл бұрын

    there is so much wrong with your entire statement. first your definitions are incorrect. A simple google shows that Chauvanism and Nationalism are synonymous. Scots are not an ethnicity, they are stateless group of people who identify as scottish. they have a country, but they are subjects of the british crown so they do not have a state. They can be patriotic to the UK. And the French analogue that you use is subjective and nonsensical.

  • @minsithumaung6867

    @minsithumaung6867

    3 жыл бұрын

    What's the difference between state, country and nation? Define them.

  • @romenov8

    @romenov8

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@minsithumaung6867 A state is a governing entity, a country is a controlled region and a nation is an ethnic group of people. State and country are often used interchangeably, as a state is defined by its geographical borders. State and nation /can/ mean the same, if a group of people rules themselves independently (eg Danes in Denmark), this is more often called a nation state. There exist nations without states, such as the Kurds who have no country, or the Jews prior to Israel. You could also arguably call the EU a state without a country (as it's comprised of multiple countries), but with a nation, but most Europeans identify more as their direct country so it's debatable.

  • @minsithumaung6867

    @minsithumaung6867

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@romenov8 I dont think nation means ethnic group of people. In my country many ethics but nation is one. Also kurds have state, (autonomous state). Otherwise good explanation.

  • @JamesMellis39

    @JamesMellis39

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@minsithumaung6867 you really want to ask an international relations major with diplomatic experience to do that? I'll just say that a nation is an ideal and not a physical entity and is completely subjective. A state is an administrative body that controls a group with societal norms that have been made sovereign. A country is the geographical area as defined by the state and its boundaries. You're rather confrontational aren't you?

  • @CouplandsSharpener
    @CouplandsSharpener3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, subbed

  • @meer5498
    @meer54983 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for providing vital information

  • @fanyfan7466
    @fanyfan74665 жыл бұрын

    Debunking PragerU is always fun! Nice video! (It’s yanny though)

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's LAUREL!

  • @fanyfan7466

    @fanyfan7466

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Beat *in trump voice* WRONG

  • @itkojecockot

    @itkojecockot

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fanyfan7466 he didn't debunk anything...... I live in europe and his perspective on EU is more than inaccurate...... what he described is what EU is on paper....... but in reality it functions very differently and there is HUGE amount of evil politics behind the curtain...... and also nationalism is none of those things he described...... if nationalism truly WAS about believing that your country is superior to others, then almost every american would be nationalist, since correct me if I'm wrong, but it is one of the most famous american "catch-phrases" that america is the greatest country in the world, right :D:D by that logic, every american who either says that or believes that would be automatically nationalist :D:D so obviously Mr. Beat's understanding of nationalism is very inaccurate....... he basically lumped up a few dictators with it and then assumed that's all nationalism represents....... that's the same thing like claiming that every muslim is a terrorist...... I bet he won't have the balls to say THAT, right :D

  • @ihazplawe2503

    @ihazplawe2503

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@itkojecockot dude was joking to mr beat not about nationalism

  • @itkojecockot

    @itkojecockot

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ihazplawe2503 I know, I wasn't reacting to the joke, but to Mr. Beat's description of nationalism

  • @EuropeanQoheleth
    @EuropeanQoheleth4 жыл бұрын

    PragerU isn't a clown; it's the whole circus.

  • @bldthrstyvgn6248
    @bldthrstyvgn6248 Жыл бұрын

    “Hitler wasn’t a nationalist” the word “nazi” is literally just short for the German word for national

  • @mason_g6820
    @mason_g6820 Жыл бұрын

    So basically, patriotism=strongly loving one’s country and nationalism=thinking one’s country is superior to all others

  • @madkhaliqfarhan

    @madkhaliqfarhan

    Жыл бұрын

    Patriot = Respect Nationalist = Bully

  • @VergilDarkslayer

    @VergilDarkslayer

    6 ай бұрын

    Thats ultra not nationalism

  • @cxarhomell5867

    @cxarhomell5867

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@madkhaliqfarhanWhat a way to grossly simplify and misinterpret patriotism and nationalism.

  • @nikolazlatanovic7999
    @nikolazlatanovic79994 жыл бұрын

    In Serbia we don't really use word patriotism that much, we stick with the nationalism, and both of them have pretty much positive connotation. Whether you say: "I'm a nationalst or I'm a patriot (rarely)", you'll get a decent feedback from most of the people here, well maybe not from me and who cares.

  • @Noname-no5qf
    @Noname-no5qf4 жыл бұрын

    In Balkan we are extremly proud of our countries. I’m a nationalist.

  • @sara-jn4kv

    @sara-jn4kv

    4 жыл бұрын

    why is your username bosnian patriot instead of bosnian nationalist then? also as a person from balkan, don’t speak for me please

  • @zyanego3170

    @zyanego3170

    3 жыл бұрын

    Serbia is Kosovo

  • @azazel166

    @azazel166

    3 жыл бұрын

    And yet our countries in the Balkans are still run like shit, despite all that love.

  • @Howkeek

    @Howkeek

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sara-jn4kv I think he meant it for the majority, not the minority :)

  • @kimy613
    @kimy613 Жыл бұрын

    thank you so much ❤

  • @Megetrion
    @Megetrion8 ай бұрын

    This helped a lot for an assignment

  • @luciusgarvous
    @luciusgarvous5 жыл бұрын

    This in group/out group mentality is something we never can get away from. It’s always there no matter what. Just in other scenarios.

  • @jaydenalonso3284
    @jaydenalonso32844 жыл бұрын

    I like how he doesn't assert his views it's hard to learn about politics when it comes from a biased source but Mr beat just states the facts not choosing a side

  • @Blizzardrepair
    @Blizzardrepair Жыл бұрын

    You define the 2 terms then tell what can be done in the wrong hands. A pencil is a tool till it kills, then it's a weapon. It's hard to say, "I'm proud of my Country, It's ordinary like all others"

  • @whathavya
    @whathavya Жыл бұрын

    Wish I had you for a social studies teacher...

  • @visorij3374
    @visorij33745 жыл бұрын

    At 4:42 George Orwell literally describes Human nature and the the thought process of most people. why is thinking in terms of winning and losing bad when that’s is a inherent thought processes of most peoples .

  • @ricky99la
    @ricky99la5 жыл бұрын

    Another amazing well informed video. Keep it up.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the encouraging words. :D

  • @ricky99la

    @ricky99la

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat Of Course. :)

  • @Jay2JayGaming
    @Jay2JayGaming Жыл бұрын

    1:30 That's interesting, because wikipedia defines nationalism as such: "Academics define nationalism as a political principle that holds that the nation and state should be congruent." It goes on to say that Nationalism "... tends to promote the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people), especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland to create a nation state." It also "...aims to build and maintain a single national identity, based on shared social characteristics..." So yeah, nothing to do with what you said. What you've described is literally "Jingoism". Patriotism is a super category for jingoism but has little to with nationalism categorically (One could argue every nationalist is a patriot, but the terms still describe different things). Nationalism is a political theory, _Not_ necessarily a set of behaviors or attributable opinions. We can describe an action or opinion as nationalistic in so far as it is inspired by or adheres to the political theory, but just saying "My country good, your country worse" is not an example.

  • @despa7726
    @despa77263 жыл бұрын

    Paul Morrin made a great video on this exact topic!

  • @EforEvery
    @EforEvery5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Beat vs Crowder Mr Beat 1-0 Mr Beat vs "What about Venezuela though bro" folks Mr Beat 2-0 Mr Beat vs PragerU Mr Beat 3-0

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not that it's a competition. I don't want to get all nationalistic, after all...

  • @aaronbradley3232

    @aaronbradley3232

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't really know about all that set for Prager University I mean I'm a nationalist I'm still a nationalist I don't care what anyone says but Prager University flip flops so much and is I hate pathetic correctness which is what I call political correctness more than anything and I used to be but when I realized how often they contradict themselves and just how they can endure so much and double-talk and try to confuse people I unsubscribed and left some really angry comments and they Banned Me from their Channel but f*** them. Cuz I agreed was a lot what they said early on but they ended up losing their mind kind of like Hitler how he was good early on and then completely lost his mind. Hitler's made to look more evil than he really is though because it's people's rationalization for fighting alongside the Soviet Union who starved more Ukrainian t h a n Hitler killed in the concentration camps not to mention the katyn Forest Massacre Chama what they did in the Warsaw uprising Stalin's purges his pathetic attack on Finland where the fins just humiliated him even though they lost. He also poisoned Lenin and murdered Trotsky he was just a piece of s*** opportunist he's the most disgusting person in history and dare I say he made Hitler look like a saint. I mean I hope you people realize that he didn't shut down concentration camps he kept them up and just made them part of his Gulag system

  • @gmbrusselsprout

    @gmbrusselsprout

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat Thanks for being a voice of reason to take down idiots on the internet. I think I just found one of them in this comment chain... *SIGH*

  • @gmbrusselsprout

    @gmbrusselsprout

    5 жыл бұрын

    @U Haul *yourself.

  • @snacks744

    @snacks744

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat lol

  • @sotir9299
    @sotir9299 Жыл бұрын

    Nationalism trully is love for your country above all others. But nationalism is not about claiming you are superior, it is about saying that your nationals should have priority in your country, and expecting other nationals to have priority in their countries. I mean, it is YOUR country for a reason: your people fought for it and it's interests for centuries, not the ancestors of a foreigner that just happens to visit or move there.

  • @danielblank9917

    @danielblank9917

    Жыл бұрын

    I have too much in common with other people in this world too exclude them simply because we were born in different places.

  • @sotir9299

    @sotir9299

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielblank9917 That can be possible only if you are a citizen of a young country like USA.

  • @tzvitaylor3168
    @tzvitaylor3168 Жыл бұрын

    the only way you could keep your argument for imperialism/globalism was by hypothesizing about an alien invasion

  • @therealwattambor8347
    @therealwattambor8347 Жыл бұрын

    PragerU has two moods: -Make sure to emphasize that Adolf Hitler was a "Nationalist Socialist" to shit on Socialism. -Flat out deny that Adolf Hitler was a "Nationalist Socialism" to endorse Nationalism. It just depends on the mood of Dennis, at this point.

  • @jaxonmourning
    @jaxonmourning5 жыл бұрын

    I 👏 HAVE 👏 BEEN 👏 WAITING 👏 FOR 👏 SOMEONE 👏 TO 👏 TELL 👏 PEOPLE 👏 THIS 👏

  • @thinkabout288

    @thinkabout288

    5 жыл бұрын

    ME 2

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Right on. :D

  • @ryanx9372

    @ryanx9372

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lolz@ghetto clap being real.

  • @sagesheahan6732

    @sagesheahan6732

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me 3. Been waiting for someone to make this distinction. And I've personally never been a fan of PragerU. They spin reality to suit their point of view. Not very objective or logical. Unlike you, good sir. Thank you for the work you do.

  • @jojothermidor
    @jojothermidor4 жыл бұрын

    Patriotism is loyalty to a state. Nationalism is loyalty to your people. Country and nation do not mean the same thing! Country is the state, nation is a people who share a heritage, history, culture, identity and language.

  • @tibodeclercq2131
    @tibodeclercq21313 жыл бұрын

    great point, I was not aware of this

  • @packplays5107
    @packplays5107 Жыл бұрын

    The way I like to separate them is the French revolution, they were patriotic, but not nationalists, they supported France for what it could be, but did not support what it was.