Pinned post for Q&A :)

@themanformerlyknownascomme777

2 ай бұрын

Had rotor sails been invented 20 years earlier and/or received far more popularity when introduced. Do you think we would see them in use on Naval Auxiliary craft? (Submarine tenders, colliers, oil tankers, ect)

@4040DeereJohn

2 ай бұрын

I know you've visited The Mariner's Museum and USS Monitor Replica in Virginia -- have you ever visited Vicksburg, MS and the USS Cairo ((City class river ironclad)? Sunk by Confederate mine in 1862 and raised in 1966.

@davidjamessandling

2 ай бұрын

How could a Japanese Type 94 torpedo change the course of battle of Jutland in the favor of the Germans?

@Rdeboer

2 ай бұрын

Had British battlecruiser design sacrificed some speed for armour, roughly how much extra tonnage in protection could they have had while still being effective in the battlecruiser role, and was this feasible for RN ship builders at the time?

@TheEDFLegacy

2 ай бұрын

What is a "transverse bulkhead"? The Eve Online player in me immediately recognized the term, then immediately after realized I had no idea what it meant in reality. 😅 I'd imagine it's not a modification that increases ironclad hit points by 20%-25%, right? 😅 EDIT: Thanks to those who replied! Nifty; essentially a bulkhead that runs along the length of the ship, instead of the width. Now the Eve Online modification makes more sense!

This is it!! Record this for posterity! This Wednesday Ironclad special is THE video in which Drach achieved the incredible 500K subscribers Milestone!!! Congratulations Drach!! 🎉🎉🎉 🍾 🍾

@hanzzel6086

2 ай бұрын

Yay!

@Cemi_Mhikku

2 ай бұрын

The word you wanted was "Posterity".

@alexv3357

2 ай бұрын

@@Cemi_Mhikku Though 500K is also an achievement for Drach's own prosperity

@Cemi_Mhikku

2 ай бұрын

@@alexv3357 I mean considering the state of youtube? Not really, sadly.

@alexv3357

2 ай бұрын

@@Cemi_Mhikku True enough, but it's still a good platform for directing people to Patreon or BuyMeaCoffee or the like

*_Half a million people_* people listening to Drach talk about naval stuff! Nelson would be proud! Congratulations!

@harveywallbanger3123

2 ай бұрын

Well, I'd imagine the first feeling he'd have would be "What have you monsters done to the British Navy?". But after he became aware of the existence of KZread? Yeah, probably.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

​​@@harveywallbanger3123Well I would think after Lord Nelson grasped the concept of "recorded mini plays" he would give his blessing on realization that his Royal Navy traditions and exploits were being told world-wide, as they well should be. He would then order a ration of rum or spirit to be distributed in cheer!

@rogerwilco2

2 ай бұрын

Indeed.

@-VOR

2 ай бұрын

😂 Nelson shouldn't be put on as high a pedestal as you place him. He didn't give a shit about his men and his Strategy at Trafalgar was underdeveloped and relied on pell-mell tactics...it succeeded only because he was against an incompetent enemy Admiral, who's own officers wanted to duel him to the death due to his repeated inaction.

@jlvfr

2 ай бұрын

@@-VOR doesn't matter, it's his reputation that makes the joke. Also... you're about to be visited by a million angry ghosts :D

1875 navies be like: "If we fire this 100in shot with this super stubby overgrown potato gun at the enemy, we will eventually pile up so much additional tonnage on him that he´ll just drown."

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Yes, and the bangy noise on the side of the enemy plates would most certainly get the point across.

Last time I was this early HMS Captain still seemed like a good idea!

@jamesm3471

2 ай бұрын

Nice one!

@AlexeyPiet

2 ай бұрын

But it never did look like a good idea...

@alexcrawford6162

2 ай бұрын

@@AlexeyPiet some mad man at the admiralty must have for a brief period

@AlexeyPiet

2 ай бұрын

It was a public petition (by Coles) as the admiralty didn't want to have anything to do, with Coles' idea, right? So people, who have seen large Warships only at harbour or on newspaper thought: Ironclad for high seas with only a few feet of freeboard amidships? Seems neat, i want this! What a good idea this is!

@alexcrawford6162

2 ай бұрын

@@AlexeyPiet ahh I forgot the details. Still Coles thought it was a good idea! I presume as it was foundering beneath him that opinion changed however.

Congratulations on 500k subscribers. May you now get 1 million subscribers next

@Fnstine

2 ай бұрын

Zoom right by 750,000 💨

@animal16365

2 ай бұрын

@Fnstine Maybe zoom right by 1 million and straight to 1 billion subscribers 😉

@Fnstine

2 ай бұрын

@animal16365 No. MANDATORY celebration at half a billion.🤗 Then it's OK to skip 3/4 of a billion. And Only then.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Most assuredly he will garner a million. In time later this century a trillion will be subscribed as after we make full contact with extraterrestrials the interest will hit a logaryrthmic scale of progressional tenfold increase with each year, then decimal year, then per 3.65 days and so on. The future is certain to be bright for dear Drach. Cheers to all.

@Fnstine

2 ай бұрын

@CharlesYuditsky 👉🤯👍

I call this period the "Ugly Period" as none of these ships possessed any beauty or semblance of grace while moving. This is mostly due to the need to concentrate weight amidships as the iron hull structure would have hogged if the turrets were located fore and aft. The idea of a citadel amidships also addressed this problem and would be resolved only much later at the turn of the century. I would also note that when it came to being ugly France takes first place with their "hotel" superstructures and ugly tumblehome hulls. Kudos to Drach for hitting the 500k mark of subscribers, which just goes to show you that quality always wins.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Quality AND perseverence.

@bullettube9863

2 ай бұрын

@@CharlesYuditsky Perseverance in the quest for quality!

@rorythomas9469

2 ай бұрын

There’s an intentionality to the French tumble home designs which I think is rather appealing. The RN designs tend to look like several thousand tons of boat where it’s quite hard to tell what you’re actually looking at.

@AndrewGivens

2 ай бұрын

Personally, I think they mostly look absolutely magnificent. But it's a matter of taste. I mean, I'd never call HMS Inflexible handsome, nor Orion (even though I'm a big fan of her) but HMS Alexandra in later Mediterranean Squadron white? Lovely. And HMS Superb was excellently proportioned; most handsome to behold, up there with HMS Hercules in terms of strong, clean lines.

@bullettube9863

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewGivens Yes some of these pre-Dreadnought ships were well proportioned, but they still lacked the grace of later ships.

He finally made part two! Also only the Ironclad era would think of arming the same Ship with both 10" and 11" guns

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Yes, freaky

@scytheseven9173

2 ай бұрын

this is part three

30:15 I do appreciate that the "flexible" propulsion options of steam-or-sail ended with HMS "Inflexible." Seems fitting.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Indeed. Wonder if that was an "inside" joke of that era's Admiralty.

FINALLY! I've been waiting for this series to continue for so long ❤

@rich7787

2 ай бұрын

Back to aircraft Rex, I don’t want to have to come down here again and separate you. Don’t give me that flying boat crap either!

37:27 "Until in 1903 a torpedo test went a *little* better than expected, and sank her." Aside from being a hilarious description of the sinking, am I the only one astonished that 1) a torpedo was actually being *tested* and 2) that it *worked?*

@notshapedforsportivetricks2912

2 ай бұрын

The RN tends to be a bit more thoroughgoing about these things than the USN.

@tcpratt1660

2 ай бұрын

I mean, if BuOrd tested a Mark XIV torpedo, and it worked as well as a happy fun times spicy rock carried by big metal bird, Admirals English and Christie would have died of shock... ...and the entire BuOrd torpedo department would have been in a drunken stupor for a whole week!

@luisnunes3863

Ай бұрын

Nothing surprising in a torpedo working, unless USN bureau of ordnance designed it. Then it's expected.

1:17 If you can lie down on the deck and dip a hand into the sea … you may need more freeboard.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Maybe assign "belly rowers?"

@mrcat5508

2 ай бұрын

@@CharlesYuditskyyeah it was actually a built in safety feature in case the engines broke

Drach, a discussion on ironclads and you don't mention _Thunder Child_ which engaged several Martian walkers and destroyed at least two and perhaps even three

@TheVeeker

2 ай бұрын

Thunder Child's infamous last stand was in the 1890s, which Drach has covered in depth in another 2 videos

@jacobdill4499

2 ай бұрын

The joke is that if Thunder Child was real, she would have been built during the time period of this video.

@Trek001

2 ай бұрын

@@jacobdill4499 Exactly... I thought he might have slipped in some mention

@AndrewGivens

2 ай бұрын

@@jacobdill4499 In fact, 'Tordenskjold' was built almost in parallel with the three central-citadel battleships discussed here, but she was Danish so hasn't, to the best of my knowledge, been discussed yet - despite the Danish ironclad fleet and construction history being at least as fascinating and full of wondrous marvels as the Dutch. *(Tordenskjold, as you know, translates as 'Thunder Shield', and she was a low-freeboard 'torpedo ram' with an utterly enormous gun in a forward barbette... and two tall funnels rising from the amidships superstructure of a low-lying, 'almost water-logged' ship. Hmmm.)

Any chance Drach of doing a history of the captain's Great Cabin? Mahogany splendors to MDF and plastic....

Alexandras Artillerie attacked Alexandria.

@johnmiller8975

2 ай бұрын

This amused me as well recursive attacks

So happy to see this series back! It's one of my favourite series on the channel.

Congratulations on the milestone

One interesting video idea would be to interview the science fiction author David Weber. I can see several ways that he used Naval Design history of the late 1800's and early 1900's to influence his storytelling.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

What are his works? I would like to look into his literature

@tallonhunter3663

2 ай бұрын

​@@CharlesYuditsky the Honor Harrington series. First book At Basilsk Station

Thanks, Drach,. I was afraid I would pass away before you resumed my favorite era of warship.

It still amazes me how the Royal Navy just kept some of their outdated ships around or even in reserve even after most of them were basically or COMPLETELY outdated. Like HMS Temeraire was launched in 1876 but wasn’t scrapped until 1921, image being told in 1916 “you’ll be sailing on Temeraire, the ironclad not the battleship” 😂

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Yes it actually was a waste of manpower that could have been deployed in the field, as in France or the Mid-east. That and could have provided a great deal of steel scrap, thus reducing the number of miners needed for extraction operations. And then of course the surplus miners be deployed in France or the Mid-East. Maybe as more tunneling troops on the Western Front?

For a very short time in the 1870s the Dutch ironclad turret ram ships HNLMS Koning der Nederlanden and her half-sister were the most powerful ships in Asian waters, signalling the Dutch commitment to retaining their East-Asian colony. It all went downhill from there.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Holy cow, I think you have a series for Drach! Serious, try and get his humble attention.

That sketch at 9:41. The British are brilliant. They equipped their gun with a hind sight because hindsight is always 20-20!

My dad was a gunner on a liberty ship ww2 and I love the way you describe the nuts and bolts of all things warship.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

And he touches on the personages that made these ships live. I am thinking of producing a series of notable naval personell for the period 1914 to 1945. Or do the same for US Army soldiers in WWII who garnered high amounts of awards. Like a DSC, 3 Silver stars 2 purple hearts and so on. There are thousands of "Joes" like this who deserve to be lauded for being average guys who flipped out and did extraordinary acts.

That picture of Nelson as a training ship looks like something from Fallout.

ITS HERE! ITS FINALLY HERE!

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Whew, man, what will you do at 1 million? 10 million!?

@interdictr3657

2 ай бұрын

@@CharlesYuditsky hes referring to this being the next part in a series of videos on ironclads. We have been waiting for this for a looong time!

Congratulations on 500k Drach, can't wait to see you hit 1 million. The 32nd Drydock was my first video and that seems so long ago.

@drachinifel This was the original series that helped me find the channel, and I'm glad to see you going back!

Congratulations on half a million subscribers! Excellent channel, well deserved.

Congratulations on reaching 500k subs, Dönitz, Lockwood, Nimitz, and a sandwich shop would be impressed and jealous. It is well deserved. Now onward to a million!

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

And to the trillions when we make extraterrestrial contact! Ohh you bet they will be drawn to it!

Good luck on your Norway field trip

Out for breakfast, but going to listen to this tonight. Interesting topic.. to me these years are the forgotten years of ship design. Looking forward to it.

This series started when I was Freshman in college and now I'm a Senior, time flies.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Now get back to your summer internship

@ImportantNavalHistory

2 ай бұрын

@@CharlesYuditsky Well since that ended as it was a spring internship, I think I'll just keep making KZread videos.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

@@ImportantNavalHistory ok then, hope a summer of beer, girls amd video games is in order

Wow a return to the ironclad series! Thank you

I've been waiting for this one ! Congratulations on 500k Drach.

Super glad this series is back - was just watching the last RN one yesterday, this was up when I woke up this AM!!

It’s just sad looking at those ships with sailing rigs knowing what’s already happening. Especially if you already know that history will repeat itself in 1905 and in the late 30s-WWII era.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Meaning? I dont get the cut of your jib.

@mitchaelhollingsworth1698

2 ай бұрын

Meaning they were quite fleeting in terms of naval supremacy, weapons and technology

@bkjeong4302

2 ай бұрын

@@CharlesYuditsky Obsolete upon launch.

Congratulations Drach!

One must wonder at what point engineers were like "lets illuminate this otherwise pitch dark room by installing lamps that blind you when looking at them and kill you when bumping into them" and mounted open 800 Volt DC arc lamps. The amazing amounts of UV radiation aside, arc lamps need to be maintained frequently since they work by essentially burning graphite rods with an electric arc between them.

Congrats Drach on reaching 500k subscribers 🙂 Excellent video on a highly dynamic period in the RN's history. There is, however, a need to correct your reference to the ironclad Nelson 'replacing' a predecessor with the same name. The ironclad Nelson in this video replaced the wooden screw corvette Wolverene as the Australia Station flagship in 1882 and was relieved by the armoured cruiser Orlando in 1888: clearly, the RN wasn't necessarily sending its First Eleven to Australia if it could be helped :-) The previous Nelson you referred to was a 120-gun three decker built for the RN in 1814. However, having been razeed the first time and receiving a screw engine in 1860, she never entered RN service: instead, she was gifted to the colonial Victorian Naval Forces (as *their* flagship) in 1865 as a harbour defence and training ship, for service in Melbourne's Port Phillip Bay. She was razeed again the late 1870s before she was laid up in 1891 and sold in 1898. She was cut down again for use as a coal lighter on the Tamar River in northern Tasmania until she was slowly scrapped in the late 1920/early 1930s. Although clearly pedantic, the point to make is that besides the RN Squadron, four of the six Australian colonies had their own mostly part-time naval forces (although NSW more often than not didn't actually have any ships :-)) Even so, the RN and the locals didn't have much to do with each other until the RAN was established in 1911: colonial prejudices aside, to be fair the RN didn't think much of its own reserves during this period either!

Idea for a future research and video? Hi Drach, the HMS Ganges naval training school near Harwich is being quickly redeveloped. It has stood mostly unused since the last cadets left in 1976 when school leaving age went to 16 from 14. I went there with my Dad to see this. There is a museum but what I would like to know more about is the original HMS Ganges a wooden wall ship of the line which was built in Bombay out of teak shortly after the Napoleonic wars. It served as the original training vessel for the school and was finally broken up some time just before the second world war. I find it amazing that ships were built in India for the Royal Navy and this one certainly had a long career. I feel this would make for interesting content as even the museum has little information on this ship. Thank you and congratulations on meeting 500,000 subs.

Interesting, the top video youtube is recommending I watch after this is one of Drach's from two years ago.....about the early development of ironclads in the Royal Navy.

Wunderbar! I've been hanging out for another video on my favourite period of naval design. Many thanks, Drach. Now on to the Marine Nationale!

Great work, as usual. But, please look carefully at your diagram of Temeraire's disappearing gun mount. It's a simple parallelogram. The gun recoiled straight back, and the turntable then rotated to the loading position. It did not flip end-over-end. Your diagram seems to be from "The Big Gun" by Peter Hodges. His text makes the action clear -- it recoiled straight back.

YAY! Ironclad-dreadnaught period is fascinating!

I've missed this series, thanks drach!

Thanks @drachinifel! Been waiting so long for this one 😁😁

Congratulations Drach on reaching 500k subs. Ive been here since you had 1,000 or less. Cheers you brilliant beautiful bastards. Hahahahaha

A litany of issues seems a tad understated .... Superb work again sir 😊

Next milestone: 1 Million Subscribers!!!

@Drach can you explore the development of submarines?

@daniellewis1789

2 ай бұрын

That's a deep topic.

@sunshadow7XK

Ай бұрын

It'd be a lot of pressure making it too. Getting it wrong would be crushing and a titanic error.

Finally! We've been waiting years for this!

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

I hope you are well satisfied with this episode. I certainly am.

@Jon.A.Scholt

2 ай бұрын

@@CharlesYuditsky Can't get enough of the Drach videos where he talks about the progression of naval technology in the 19th century. I can't wait til the next one

Absolutely fascinating!! I had no idea the Regia Marina developed the 17.7" gun and before dawn of 20th century. Also the coastal battery style guns intrigue me. I wonder if anyone has reworked the design using modern metallurgical methods and materials i.e. aluminum and titanium. Great video Drach

@jevinliu4658

2 ай бұрын

They didn't really develop the 17.7" gun, they requested one from British Armstrong and got it from them There was also a 20-inch smoothbore from the US in this era

@Bully_Bravo1382

2 ай бұрын

TY for the correction. I must have gotten lost in the details and my imagination of manufacturing big bore barrels

Informative, informal and inspirational. I think I need to sculpt some 1/1500 ironclads now!

As usual, good selection of photos and diagrams. Interesting comments on the tactical deployment of HMS Shannon.

The hull thicknesses are just unbelievable

Are there any preserved ships from this period? I would love to visit these old versions of the Warspite or Rodney. They are such a weird, transitional stage in warship development I would have been utterly fascinated to tour them.

I missed this series soo much

501K eh Drach? Not bad. I think the salt beef, hard tack and beer video was what won it.

Celebrate this with a video on James Cook, scion of British meritocracy

I cant see how that disappearing gun flips its self over to the loading position. Looing at the mechanism, im sure it loweres then rotates to a rearward faceing position.

Congrats on 500k subs!

10:10 I was wondering what that eliptical shape was all about. Very interesting

I was so surprised that when Drach said the word "scrapped" at 12:12 and the video didn't end

500k hype moments naval historiography good job

I have been so waiting for this one.

Thank you I've been waiting so long for this

Like any water resources engineer I'm a fan of William Froude and his number. I've only ever heard it pronounced (here in the US) as "Frood" (like "food") rather than rhyming with "proud"?

Yes was waiting forever for this thank you Admiral Drach

Great video, love the Ironclad era. Well done on 500k subs, well deserved.

oh another part to feed my evenings, thats gonna play a couple of dozen of time over the next 24months or so :D

Thanks Drach.

Congratulations on the 500k👍👏

The image with the men standing on the spreaders, (?) was this a typical method of "manning the rails" when a military ship entered a port?

Well worth the wait, Many thanks

Congratz on 500K, and thanks for all of the amazing videos through the years.

Ooooo I made it to an upload early. Here's to another quality informative video

Last time i was this early the Kamchatka was still shooting at trawlers

@roempoetliar7995

2 ай бұрын

it was japanese torpedo boats!

Thank you, Drach

Wonderful, I love this serie.

seven years in 44 minutes? Wow, this is a busy time for the RN.

Congratulations Drac on 500,000 subscribers!

DRACH congratulations on 500K subs💯🖖

Bloody hell, that took a while 😂 Great to see another addition to the series, I've just open my beer, so perfect timing 😁😁

Congrats on 500k subscribers Drach.

5:07 it sure seems like there was an extended period wherein a navy could choose many small guns that fired quickly but could not possibly penetrate an enemy vessel’s main armor, or a few large guns that would visit utter destruction upon any enemy vessel, but that fired once every four minutes and would only hit an enemy vessel if they were tied up alongside the same pier.

Great Video and thanks for the sources.

Yay, I only watched the first part recently so this is nice.

Congratulation on 500K subs, well deserved :)

man I love ironclads

I find it fascinating how quickly ships, aircraft and cars all changed within a few short decades. There is phenomenal where a design will evolve toward a specific result (given a set of constraints, and design goals). The best example is the wheel. The wheel has not gotten better in centuries, not even a little. Now go ask chatGPT why all cars look so similar today, and it will tell you its regulations that caused it - which is pure propaganda. We live in weird times.

@davidelliott5843

2 ай бұрын

Cars all look the same because the industry ceased to innovate around the 1970s. They evolved the structure of today and refused to adapt beyond the legal safety demands. Tesla has exposed just how sclerotic the legacy industry has become.

@user-bi7xd8ry5p

2 ай бұрын

​@davidelliott5843 Tesla's only innovations were in battery technology. When it comes to designing actual *cars* they are the same, if not slightly worse than everyone else.

@XH1927

2 ай бұрын

Innovation costs money, as long as there's no problem to be solved there won't be work done to innovate. There's no issue with modern car design, it's pretty much at its pinnacle. What we need is a sustainable fuel that can keep combustion engines going so as to head off the EV disaster before it comes to a head.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

Well the PHYSICS of the wheel have not changed or improved in thousands of years. The CONSTRUCTION of wheels has rapidly improved in the last 150 years. A vast series of improvements.

@CharlesYuditsky

2 ай бұрын

​@@XH1927well that is one way, the other is to develop materials to male car bodies out of materials that are so strong, and inexpensive, that only 1/10 the weight is needed for a safe car. That would allow for ICEs of 200 to 300+mpg. Not impossible if nanotubule carbon fibers can be produced to take the place of steel for a similar pricw

Glad this is continuing.

Congrats on 500.000 subscribers!

Congrats on 500k Drach!

Half a million subscribers! Well done!!

someone need to make a total war style game with naval battles set in this era from earliest iron clads to this era of iron clads

32:04 Law of Revelation: The hidden flaw never remains hidden.

Woohoo! 500k subs!

Just when I think that KZread has become as vast a wasteland as broadcast TV -- Drach drops a new video.....

HMS Neptune's final rampage against its own fleet is one part amusing and one part vaguely terrifying.

25:15 Just waiting for the invention of the hang glider. "Wheee- splash!" Thrill seekers could help fund the navy.