The Defenders: " Old Lady Ironsides" season 3 episode 12

EG Marshall, Robert Reed

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  • @Songwriter376
    @Songwriter3763 жыл бұрын

    We desperately need this series to be re-run on prime time tv these days.

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes, and rerun and rerun and rerun. Principles of justice are so hard to grasp if we have been raised with something else, like me.

  • @janinecox256

    @janinecox256

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, MeTv, Cozi Tv need to run this show on the weekends and get rid of these shows ie the Andy Griffith Show and Mash which we see 7 days a week and use other shows especially this one! I love the old commercials!

  • @jankutac9753

    @jankutac9753

    Жыл бұрын

    I might actually start watching. My first lawyer series was Suits. Too little court action, too much personal drama. Then I watched The Practice. Actually liked it. Let's see how this one is

  • @gavan1959
    @gavan19592 жыл бұрын

    Nice show,love how you can hear every word of dialogue without having to listen to background music and actor's who mumble.

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579
    @bovnycccoperalover3579 Жыл бұрын

    The pregnant girl was played by Janet Margolin of "David and Lisa", interesting movie of the early '60s.

  • @stevensica89
    @stevensica892 жыл бұрын

    Robert Reed : "I don't think it's going to start a trend." Guess again.

  • @janinecox256

    @janinecox256

    8 ай бұрын

    I know right

  • @paultaurone5634
    @paultaurone56342 жыл бұрын

    Great episode!!! I think I'll finish off the night with a KOOL cigarette!

  • @dar5108

    @dar5108

    10 ай бұрын

    😂 I miss smoking.

  • @ortho-g9826

    @ortho-g9826

    7 ай бұрын

    I'll join you

  • @dokskwyr4353

    @dokskwyr4353

    Ай бұрын

    @@dar5108 No me. I still am. 🙂

  • @lesnyk255
    @lesnyk2553 жыл бұрын

    Aline McMahon was magnificent. Tough and vulnerable, without going over the top.

  • @stephendeluca4479

    @stephendeluca4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    She made some great films at Warner Bros in the early 30s, opposite Edward G Robinson, Warren William, and others. A great actress.

  • @sexymama1966
    @sexymama19663 жыл бұрын

    The original ads are lovely!

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are horrible! But I am happy you left them in because they DO show historical anti-feminine and anti-health corporate views and influences and for that reason I see them as a teaching tool. But they in themselves are disgusting.

  • @dokskwyr4353

    @dokskwyr4353

    Ай бұрын

    @@CynthiaSchoenbauer No they're not, snowflake.

  • @ortho-g9826
    @ortho-g98267 ай бұрын

    Robert Reed was always great in this series.

  • @dokskwyr4353
    @dokskwyr4353Ай бұрын

    I remember the Prosecution Attorney best from his later role as the Governor on "Benson" years later during the late 70's, early 80's.

  • @secundrabeasley855
    @secundrabeasley8553 жыл бұрын

    The lawyer representing the city played the governor on Benson!!!

  • @AstralPixie

    @AstralPixie

    2 жыл бұрын

    I recognized him, too!

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579

    @bovnycccoperalover3579

    Жыл бұрын

    His name is James Noble.

  • @trewestbrook7404
    @trewestbrook7404 Жыл бұрын

    The actor playing the expecting father, Mart Hulswit, went on to play Ed Bauer for 12 years on my Mom’s soap Guiding Light.

  • @SoBe80s.
    @SoBe80s.3 жыл бұрын

    I imagine that was a very scandalous topic back then. My mom was a school teacher in the New York City public school system in the 1950s and when she couldn't hide her pregnancy they dismissed her because they said it was inappropriate for her to teach a class in that condition.

  • @stephendeluca4479

    @stephendeluca4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is unfortunately no longer scandalous for teen girls to get pregnant. It is commonplace in society now. Girls get pregnant, give birth, hand the child over to the grandmother to raise, never marry, never really grow up and never get a word of criticism. The new American way.

  • @SoBe80s.

    @SoBe80s.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stephendeluca4479 So very true as well as a litany of other horrible behavior and actions today that do not carry the stigma or consequences that once assisted to make those issues the very rare exception.

  • @GreatDayEveryone

    @GreatDayEveryone

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoBe80s. you guys are both obnoxious

  • @conniecrawford5231

    @conniecrawford5231

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was teaching twelfth grade and married when I got pregnant with my first child. I knew the policy at the time was for pregnant married teachers to resign, but when I offered to resign, the superintendent said the baby wasn’t due till July and I had not missed any days of school due to sickness! My students made my son an honorary. Member of their 1969 class and my husband, myself and my in utero baby all attended graduation- my baby was born in July after My students had graduated! He is now a corporate attorney for a major corporation!

  • @missanne2908

    @missanne2908

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GreatDayEveryone Thank you for that reply. I happen to be born out of wedlock to a college student in the 1950s. When the public demands the pregnant girl feel the stigma of scandal, it can cause a rise in stress hormones that can adversely affect the unborn child. In punishing the mother they may be punishing the child also. The child is innocent; the father, who during that time period was not usually stigmatized, was not.

  • @flower24587
    @flower245873 жыл бұрын

    This was a good episode

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    ICONIC!

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579

    @bovnycccoperalover3579

    Жыл бұрын

    Great lady Ironsides.

  • @philmann3476
    @philmann3476 Жыл бұрын

    9:20 "I don't think it's going to start a trend." Boy, was he wrong.

  • @mattmiller5014
    @mattmiller50142 жыл бұрын

    Somehow I think the commercials for tobacco back then we're healthier the adds today for the pharmacutical companies.

  • @Grisostomo06
    @Grisostomo06 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent episode and ahead of its time."Sexual discrimination" the suffragette tells the newspaperman. That term was seldom used back then. Now of course we hear it all the time. The early '60s still had pretty strict "Standards and Practices" departments at networks which decided on what could be shown in prime time. Topics like teen pregnancy and abortion were usually taboo. The writing in this episode is first rate and the actress playing the suffragette is excellent. The commercials perfectly capture the tenor of the times, especially the sexism.

  • @AstralPixie
    @AstralPixie2 жыл бұрын

    "Mary Alice Trotter" is Aline MacMahon. She starred in quite a few movies in the '30's and '40's including "Kind Lady" with Basil Rathbone. Later, she appeared in "The Man from Laramie" with Jimmy Stewart. This is a *wonderful episode* --- written by Robert Van Scoyk who was best known for mysteries ("Murder She Wrote", "Ellery Queen"). Thank you for posting.

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer
    @CynthiaSchoenbauer3 жыл бұрын

    I can't thank you ENOUGH for these old shows!!! I hope it is okay with you that you are fueling social change, even now, by giving access... because I and others welcome change and have opened our hearts to it with the help of these old "Black and Whites".

  • @rubypearl2298

    @rubypearl2298

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're SO welcome. They ARE in pretty bad shape, tho

  • @jayt9882

    @jayt9882

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rubypearl2298 When the message contained in program such as these is such an important one it makes it easier to look beyond that. You tend to concentrate more on what is really worth taking note of. Thank you for posting these episodes, whatever shape they're in!

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jayt9882 Absolutely, Jay T. Thank you for saying what I would have said.

  • @missrosecomfort
    @missrosecomfort3 жыл бұрын

    the ads in this show are amazingly ironic given the topic

  • @bobgold57

    @bobgold57

    3 жыл бұрын

    painful...I haven't seen any of these great shows with the ads in them before this one. What a reminder.

  • @missrosecomfort

    @missrosecomfort

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wallacecleaver4485 im no radical anti man feminist but the ads are pretty sexist

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I completely AGREE, and I could not have said it better my self. Thank you for having the guts to say so as well!

  • @504nlb
    @504nlb7 ай бұрын

    “Postcards from Buster” is next, on the CBS Television Network.

  • @keithstewart511
    @keithstewart5112 жыл бұрын

    Nice a very interesting episode. Strange to see all the adverts.

  • @pammf9391
    @pammf93918 ай бұрын

    This episode first aired on Dec. 21,1963 when I was probably in 7th grade..There really was not any sex education and our education to become a future homemaker was to learn how to make hot chocolate, toast and sew an apron..In 1971 while junior in college- I found out I was pregnant- only TWO states permitted abortions -Colorado (with medical reason only) and NY- for $385.00 paid for the procedure done in hospital and the hotel room…Also Vietnam war was still going on (ended 1975)--- now over 50 years later- where are we now??

  • @recordguy4321
    @recordguy43219 ай бұрын

    WOW another tv show with Janet Margolin (R I P ) . She was such a talented actress gone way too soon

  • @marycooper8385
    @marycooper8385Ай бұрын

    Remember ring around the collar lol

  • @tamaraclaw
    @tamaraclaw Жыл бұрын

    Another episode examining society in the early 1960s...I like topical entertainment

  • @dont4143
    @dont41433 жыл бұрын

    When I went to school in Cleveland, Ohio n the 60's expecting girls had to leave school but not the boys who got them pregnaunt. So the girls went out of town to have their babies with almost all of them putting them up for adoption.

  • @capacola262743

    @capacola262743

    3 жыл бұрын

    you imply the boys who got them pregnant SHOULD have been forced to leave school and the girls should have been permitted to stay. how would they have POSITIVELY identified the fathers?? why should they have been kicked out of school?? also, you seem to imply there is something wrong with adoption. i say it's better for that baby to be placed in a real home with TWO parents who can raise it correctly instead of this DISASTER we have now of "single motherhood" with 14 year old children "raising" their unwanted bastards. those unwanted bastards WILL grow up to be a burden on society. so just shut up with your stupid bullshit you ignorant fuck.

  • @westcoastgirl

    @westcoastgirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sad . Sex education and informing girls early enough as a preventative measure may reduce the unwanted teen pregnancy .

  • @missanne2908

    @missanne2908

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's the one point I wish Kenneth Preston would have pressed in the first hearing with the school board member. He should have asked if a girl becomes pregnant by a boy that also attends the school, if the father is expelled as well. If the answer is no, then he could have argued against the rule because it is applied arbitrarily, that the father would be equally 'guilty' and could be potentially a greater corrupting influence since he would be free to interact and date the other girls in the school.

  • @janinecox256
    @janinecox2562 жыл бұрын

    I’m disgusted with MTV’s show, Teen Mom because I believe that this show glamorizes teen motherhood when it hard and these young girls are not being prepared and yes babies are cute but they are also a lot of hard work and these girls don’t have enough in them to figure it out how to be a mother! In this show, yes the girl made a mistake but she shouldn’t be punished but supported !

  • @marycooper8385
    @marycooper8385Ай бұрын

    Chaining herself to the school

  • @dorianmclean6755
    @dorianmclean67553 жыл бұрын

    What a jaunt thru the history of advertising

  • @marycooper8385

    @marycooper8385

    Ай бұрын

    Ads are so sexist

  • @scronx
    @scronx2 жыл бұрын

    There we are -- this series' point was pushing what was then known as liberalism. The other episodes I've tried reeked of it and this one's an open polemic for feminism. Can we take the vote back from wimminz now they're revealed to be such a plague in politics? I remembered correctly from 60 years ago that this series was all business, but suddenly we see what brings a smile to Egg Marshall's stony hatchet face -- political correctness, circa 1965! The idea that a young male lawyer would express such admiration for it is a good laugh. Thanks in any case for posting this. It's a period piece of historical interest.

  • @michaelreid6937
    @michaelreid69378 ай бұрын

    A bravura performance by Aline McMahon as Mary Alice Trotter in a role that seemed tailor made 🎭

  • @pattimccraw6168
    @pattimccraw61682 жыл бұрын

    mary alice played on a lot of movies not sure of her name

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579
    @bovnycccoperalover3579 Жыл бұрын

    "The Defenders" was definitely propaganda, which is not an indictment, simply a fact. It was produced by Reginald Rose, who wrote "Twelve Angry Men" with Henry Fonda. It did even more controversial issues such as abortion and euthanasia. However, every issue should be judged on its own merits.

  • @PabluchoViision
    @PabluchoViision2 жыл бұрын

    The Lux ad around 40:00 in folk song style (“A woman is soft, that’s just the way it is…. One day a man will call her his”) is like the national anthem of sexism. Priceless!

  • @kaydee4296

    @kaydee4296

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. It's just TERRIBLE for women to be feminine & men being masculine & the two being attracted to each other rather than being repelled by each other. Just AWFUL.

  • @PabluchoViision

    @PabluchoViision

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kaydee4296So it’s either “A woman is soft, that’s just the way it is/One day a man will call her his” or “Men and women should be repelled by each other”!!! Not much on the menu in your restaurant

  • @philipdean6246
    @philipdean62462 жыл бұрын

    the road to hell etc we all thought we were just being compassionate the older generation were just intolerant look where we are today all the dead children and fatherless children and a sick society of generations of children raised by daycare and other alternatives to a home with both parents and a mother that cared for her children

  • @AstralPixie

    @AstralPixie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Prior generations placed their focus on discipline and manners. Two quotes from Bette Davis: "Parents are afraid of their children, they’re so overzealous about being loved every minute" and “A good percentage of our lives is spent doing things we loathe. Marvelous! It puts starch in your spine” I do think that we should respect, and be grateful to, prior generations, and I suspect that we could use more starch in the spine.

  • @stephendeluca4479
    @stephendeluca44793 жыл бұрын

    The "luckless child" and her boyfriend should have gotten married and raised that baby together. He is depicted as a good, well-meaning fellow. If he's good enough to screw, he's good enough to marry-- and if not, then she has much bigger problems than a HS diploma can cure, and a very bleak future ahead of her. The side of tolerance and compassion won this battle decades ago and now we have an epidemic of teen pregnancy, children being raised by grandmothers and fatherless households. They won the battle, but lost the war.

  • @jamesholmen9725

    @jamesholmen9725

    3 жыл бұрын

    BS!!’

  • @PabluchoViision

    @PabluchoViision

    2 жыл бұрын

    “If he’s good enough to screw, he’s good enough to marry”…. Put s’s in front of those “he’s” & ask yourself if the sentence still makes sense.

  • @stephendeluca4479

    @stephendeluca4479

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PabluchoViision It does. At the risk of sounding vulgar: don't put it in anyone you're not willing to commit to. Otherwise, just use your hand.

  • @PabluchoViision

    @PabluchoViision

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, it doesn’t. “Good enough to screw, then good enough to marry“ is just a hammer to beat a pregnant girl over the head with. Society doesn’t make a habit of haranguing and shaming boys to marry the girls they knock up. In any case, you’re confusing the ideal (she’s pregnant, they should form a strong and happy marriage) with the messy realities of life. To think that marriage (particularly of the shotgun variety) will make everything OK is a fairy tale. If in doubt, consult the nearest divorce lawyer or police department domestic abuse officer.

  • @stephendeluca4479

    @stephendeluca4479

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PabluchoViision I doubt that anyone can make a good case that people who marry because of an unexpected pregnancy are more likely to experience domestic abuse or even higher rates of divorce than those who marry with stars in their eyes. In fact, the starrier the eyes, the quicker a person will bail out of a marriage once the luster wears off the romance. My whole point, though perhaps I made it poorly, is that one should be very careful who they become intimate with and, should an unexpected pregnancy occur, one should think only of the welfare of that child. Single-parent households are sub-optimal environments for children, and stepfathers are more likely than biological fathers to sexually abuse their stepchildren. In the context of this episode, if the guy seemed creepy in any way I would say she should run don't walk away from him. But that wasn't the case here.

  • @flower24587
    @flower245873 жыл бұрын

    If only you'd edit out those damned awful commercials! Except for the dog, love the dog!

  • @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    @CynthiaSchoenbauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    God, they are awful! I saw them for the first time back then when I could not see all the problems with them. But now I feel so much enlightened about what society values and how they accomplish it, even when it is just not fair.

  • @missanne2908

    @missanne2908

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CynthiaSchoenbauer Me too!

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579

    @bovnycccoperalover3579

    Жыл бұрын

    They are a piece of history.

  • @GreatDayEveryone
    @GreatDayEveryone3 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful episode!! So much like today when older people who protested against the Vietnam War are protesting again with the youth for Black Lives and LGBT rights!! This made me so happy.

  • @kaydee4296

    @kaydee4296

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes. BLM & the rest are such wonderful grifters they've taken multibillions from suckers like you & done NOTHING BUT enrich themselves & forced themselves on innocent children. So much to be "proud" of. ESPECIALLY the part of destroying lives & cities rioting based on LIES you fools believe. Just beautiful. They've got you right where they want you. Guilty for shit you never did.