Whatever side you lie on or neither its nice to actually see the winning deck get some of the spotlight. Deck looks like a blast. Mardu gang rise up!

Love this way of thinking when making a deck! Excited to try some Mardu.

Let's go!! Love the mardu content

duuude i like this a lot! also i have a big chunk of these cards

I really like Hoarding Broodlord. Janky, strong and fun all in one card ❤

I'm 100% on board with Memnite. That little guy has a ton of utility!

that eyes wide open comment is so true. the deck will provide cards, just mull for a plan and pivot however you see fit. you dont have to tutor right away, you can wait to see which half of which line shows up then when the window arrives, press the gas pedal towards that window. i dont agree when people call this deck a turbo deck. it can turbo, but its just as happy to grind with creatures and go for a silence-->win attempt

"you don't need deck-building rules" YES

7:43 based

Meanwhile I’m over here building counterspell-less decks on my channel.

Hey Gary sorry for the drama post on comedians video. Good to hear you explain your side of things Really does a better job explaining the game. No so black and white

The only good thing Ad Nauseum has in CEDH, is that it is an instant!

I'm curious as to how many games were won off the WGD combo? I see this combo as very fragile and potentially catastrophic if your opponents interact with it. I feel like the safer approach would be Dualcaster Twinflames

@luciusvoldaren

10 ай бұрын

If you have tithe taker or Grand Abolisher out your opponents can't interact with it. Or use it on the turn you cast Silence.

@Gingish

8 ай бұрын

It's likely the best combo in Mardu that goes through Rule of Law effects, and yeah you should attempt it mostly with Silence-type protection.

@luciusvoldaren

8 ай бұрын

@@Gingish especially since it's VERY easy to fuck yourself with it.

I wonder how different a Tymna Roghrack would play. or Tymna and the little red lizard (if I understand correctly the lifelink of Tymna will give you 6 life right?)

@roooc7159

Жыл бұрын

idk about kedriss, but rograkh has a more turbo slant but it changes how you approach deckbuuilding to utilise him and things like infernal plunge et al, but you lose out on the outlet in commmand zone with jeska, so you have to change the combos you're going for whereas with jeska you can just make infinite mana

@caterinagerbasi1594

Жыл бұрын

@@roooc7159 absolutly. but tell me something. wouldnt it be funny to win a tournament with a funny lizard?

@luciusvoldaren

10 ай бұрын

​@@caterinagerbasi1594Funny, but unlikely. It's nowhere near as powerful as having an outlet in your command zone, IE, an outlet you always have access to.

I must be crazy or something, but Worldgorger and no Auriok Salvagers ._.

Can I see your praetors grasp deck list please

@cedhtv

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for late respones but here you go: www.moxfield.com/decks/p1TS4tHgBECGdO6vnwbZoA

This seems like a very complicated deck... i dont rrally play cedh so i dont know how to use osvald, vilis, or even jeska. Idont really have a clue. Is there a tutorial for this shell somwhere?

@Holden_P

Жыл бұрын

The moxfield linked in the description (for Shiver’s list called the Chapel of Chernobyl ) is honestly so thorough and explains everything about it and how to use each card etc. Brilliant stuff, check it out

How do you e tutor for curio and then top deck a diabolic? Didn’t you just e tutor?

Ive been absolutely loving the tought process that mardu has taken with the stack. Silence and ignore as opposed to none optimal interaction. Gonna take these ideas to naya.

Mans is over in china!? That was so out of left field 😂 but cool.

@cedhtv

Жыл бұрын

No I am in sweden.

@JpDubbed

Жыл бұрын

@@cedhtv No no, I know that. The other man in the middle :) he said "being all alone over here in china" lol

I’m also confused as to why no Overeager apprentice, discards and nets 3 black for Necromancy/animate

@cedhtv

Жыл бұрын

That looks like a kinda bad card.

i'm so glad that a deck that doesn't touch blue won, even if it was to questionable opponents. But OMG i get why Tymna is the "go to" for when you do not have access to blue, but there are other commander options that ARE worth playing as a commander that do not touch blue. Honestly, when i think "Tymna" it's hard to disassociate her with Thrasios.

hi

@cedhtv

Жыл бұрын

Hi :)

23 lands?!

@cedhtv

Жыл бұрын

cEDH is getting greedy and fast

See I don't even think it's greedy for Waffle to want others help on that notorious turn. His MBT literally does nothing if nobody else can stop dockside. Yes, ping says he can "deal with" dockside but that doesn't assure it will get exiled to stop future reanimation like MBT does. I think Ping is way more responsible for this L than Waffle.

@iansamuel1811

Жыл бұрын

when faced with the words "if you pass, i pass" its pretty obvious. ping doesn't want to give waffle info because then he knows what to play around assuming the turn passes. part of politics is being a person that people want to collaborate with and not being blatantly unlikable. if waffle wanted a turn, he cast mbt ping told him what he'd do.

@thomasnoonan2039

Жыл бұрын

@@iansamuel1811 "ping doesn't want to give waffle info because then he knows what to play around assuming the turn passes." - I agree that giving waffle more info *might* in theory decrease your chances of winning, sure. But the way I see it, it *certainly* (not just theoretically but empirically) decreases your chances of winning even MORE to be the last person with priority on a GA and let that resolve. That seems like a spite play to me, and is against what I consider to be the spirit of cEDH. "part of politics is being a person that people want to collaborate with and not being blatantly unlikable." - Part of what I pride myself on is being able to divorce my personal feelings for a person from the validity of the points they're making. Like Vince Vaughn says to Will Ferrel in Anchorman "I pure straight hate you. But goddamnit do I respect you!" (I know, I'm a man child lol. Moving along... :P ) Yes, waffle probably came off as being douchey, but that doesn't invalidate the points he's making about the game state. I think it's in poor taste to spite play someone who is making valid points just because I don't like how they make them. I've talked about this enough on the internet to know that the majority of people disagree with me on this, and I'm just ok with that. I'm not trying to convince you to agree with me, just explaining how I think.

@iansamuel1811

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasnoonan2039 so there is this play pattern where people feel that they need to start collaborating and tell each other exactly what they each have in their hand. That is not a good thing, but it's what people have come to expect in order to find the right line out of a situation. In my opinion, if it's ok to pass with interaction in your hand and the whole table knows it, then it's ok to say 'if you pass, with a known answer in your hand, then i will follow suit and also pass on my answers' just because being last in priority is supposed to be a disadvantage, doesn't mean you have to abide by that convention. just like how waffle who 100% has the MBT chose not to cast it to take a risk on ping answering. Idk, my crux is that, the dude told you what you will do in the face of you making a bad faith bullying style play. you called his bluff and failed. its on waffle

@thomasnoonan2039

Жыл бұрын

@@iansamuel1811 if it was as simple as you (and a lot of other people) seem to make it then I'd agree with you. But it's not. The MBT is best saved for the dockside so it can't be renominated. The player who won even said that. Also, a single piece of interaction won't stop the win - the win attempt needs two to be stopped. So if ping can't / won't help, the MBT is useless anyway. Also, even if ping uses his interaction first and the turn passes to waffle without him using the MBT, he'd likely have to hold up FOUR mana to protect a win attempt with it. So ping VERY likely gets to his turn. As much as anyone wants to say "yeah but on his turn waffle still has the MBT", his chances of winning are still WAY better in that scenario than the one in which he passes on GA. In a nutshell, it seems to me like you're trying to generically apply generalities that aren't specifically relevant in this scenario. I don't see waffle as the one acting in bad faith here, I see it as ping.

@iansamuel1811

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasnoonan2039 so if ping counters and waffle holds the mbt because gary doesn't go for it in the face of a mbt, then passes turn, waffle likely passes to ping due to not having a protected win. in which case ping might go for it and get mbt'd, or the next player. however, if waffle uses the mbt and gary continues to go off, ping uses his interaction anyway and waffle likely has a opportunity to make an attempt with ping having less interaction up and a defense grid likely in play. it was even to the advantage of waffle to play the mbt if you wanna calculate it all out

>I was talking to FreedomWaffle... Oh, good, as long as we're working with unbiased information. I don't blame Gary, necessarily, but carelessly framing it as "nobody else wanted to interact" is one-sided. Abolisher must be countered, it cannot be interacted with by other means. Therefore, as someone who has a revealed counter, the ball is in Waffle's court. Him trying to fob off that responsibility is a weak bluff, and he got called on it. From a meta-perspective, let's look at reactions. One side is saying, "Yeah, whatever, man. It's a thing that happened." And the other side is whipping out discord leak receipts, then apologizing for over-reacting.