A very moving video. While I don't agree with Apartheid (I was born an raised in SA in 1977) it's funny how the places has become a shit hole after the whites stopped being 'Racist'... speaks for itself. The New South Africa is spiralling into an abyss of decay as everything is slowly collapsing. It breaks my heart to see this once beautiful country going down like it is.

@garybootland3784

7 жыл бұрын

RichieRouge206 Superbly worded mate . I fully agree

As a chinese, what I learned from history book is SA was a country which can make nuclear weapons, a country with high medical technology, a country with happy people, a country with many beautiful cities, now after traveled from JHB, I just feel everything just gone

@michaelmtshali8740

8 жыл бұрын

Harry stick to killing and eating your neighbors dogs and leave Johannesburg to the people that leave there. You dog eating midget!

@harrywang8867

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Mtshali eating dog is better than living like a dog. I respect SA and JHB, but I just feel sad about what JHB looks like now. And one more thing, Keep you mouth clean, do not talk like a dog

@michaelmtshali8740

8 жыл бұрын

My good sir, your people are doing any better. Chinese people live and die in factories and you say we are living like dogs. It is uniformed fucks like you who see youtube videos and take as facts. You sir are a joke and that gun you have in the picture doesn't make any less of an idiot. #IIdiotWithAGun

@giacdeg

8 жыл бұрын

Multiculturalism is evil is it? Go find a rock in Orania to crawl under why dont you?

@amandacoetzee7456

8 жыл бұрын

The first heart was transplanted in South Africa.

Am i wrong or this decline started when apartheid ended?

@RichieRouge206

7 жыл бұрын

yes totally. Apartheid was harsh and certainly not the best process but now the blacks have got their power and control, the place is really going to the dogs. So they cannot blame anyone but themselves as they have shown they don't want to live in a nice place...

@PoboyMusic

7 жыл бұрын

If apartheid was so harsh then why did millions of blacks immigrate TO SA?

@MrRezillo

7 жыл бұрын

Because it was even worse in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa!

@saintejeannedarc9460

6 жыл бұрын

+Bill Raffie We saw how beautiful SA used to be. It is friggen amazing how quickly it's went downhill. It looks a lot like Detroit, which goes to show, the people who say it got blacked are rather right. As harsh as that sounds. Some say it declined due to communism and not the drastic cultural and iq differences, but why Detroit and other black cities in America that look similar? I'm still trying to figure out the truth about what Apartheid was really like. It's hard wading through all the marxist propaganda and evil whitey rhetoric. the only thing I know for sure is the drastic difference in results in mere decades. It worked. Whatever it might have been doing wrong, it obviously had far more right.

@CasperLabuschagne

6 жыл бұрын

Spot on. Actually it started happening a decade before Apartheid ended when well to do Indians, coloured and black people starting moving into upmarket flats in defiance of the group areas act. But as the Third world proper moved in, that first generation also fled.

I am truly shocked and very sad to see the destruction of the once beautiful,clean suburbs of Berea and Hillbrow where my fiancé and I used to live 40 years ago. Living in Australia now we always remember the hospitality and kindness of the South African people,the beautiful parks,restaurants and elegant apartments! Thank you for this video !

Sad, sad, sad. But why does none of this surprise me ? It's the story of Africa..

@heleneldridge4996

8 жыл бұрын

Africa, where litter is invisible, and even if its on your own patch of pavement you do not dream of picking it up. In fact some of it is probably yours.

@CasperLabuschagne

6 жыл бұрын

This is Africa, it has to be this way.

@saintejeannedarc9460

6 жыл бұрын

+Casper Labuschagne Why does it have to be this way?

I'm from Greece my parents used to be immigrants there many years ago! They left when Nelson Mandela took the city! When they speak about Johannesburg they are crying! They loved the place very much! As I can understand blacks wanted to take revenge from whites and that's the result nowadays...a city or maybe a country when people are afraid to go out for a coffee! I am not telling that apartheid was good but people you don't see the difference???

my heart weeps for Johannesburg's decay.

South Africa is following in the footsteps of Rhodesia exactly.

@haladjipansou9954

9 жыл бұрын

ufo Dave you are fooling yourself man.. they are going have an economical peak soon.. once social issues are set... remember it might take a couple of generation to forget the past (if politics and economics do it right)

@MrRezillo

7 жыл бұрын

Ha, ha!

@guydivosta4075

2 жыл бұрын

@@haladjipansou9954 how's it going 6 years later? 😁😁😁

Charmaine, Thank you so much for uploading this. Here in the USA, we have similar scenes in Detroit, Camden, East Saint Louis, east Dallas, east Cleveland, central Dayton, South Chicago, North Las Vegas, south Stockton, San Bernardino, Compton, and many more.

@bboucharde

9 жыл бұрын

***** William, You should have seen it in about 1970.....That was the top of the hill......The US has been on a downhill slide since then.....especially in the central cities..... Detroit peaked even earlier, in about 1950.....Then, for the next twenty years, more than one million middle class Whites & Blacks moved out to the suburbs. The Motor City has never recovered from that exodus.

@bboucharde

9 жыл бұрын

***** William, Right on. 100% agreement. .... Some cultures (including German) place a very high value on the work ethic, reliability, education, precision, craftsmanship, and the dignity of labor......and some (you know which ones) don't.

@hasanx4637

9 жыл бұрын

+bboucharde what good is this doing??, except to give racists an avenue to hate on others. South Africa and the US will do just fine. and if you think the US's peak was 1970, you're crazy.

@bboucharde

9 жыл бұрын

Hasan x Hasan, In 1970, the US had twice the industry it has now. There was no terrorist threat to our nation. The standard of living (adjusted for inflation) was higher for working and middle classes. Adult literacy was higher. Student K-12 test scores were higher. The marriage rate was higher, and illegitimate childbirth was lower. The average adult was 30 to 40 pounds thinner than now. There are federal and state statistics to back up my assertion. NOTE: I am closing our conversation now, because you and I will never agree. Good luck to you.

@hasanx4637

9 жыл бұрын

+bboucharde I can find stats to refute every stat you brought up. Stats are for losers. American cities were dying in the 1970's. no terrorist threat in 1970? Study history dude. Both south Africa and Us are in a better place today overall. Compare New York for example.

Wow, what a mess! My Hungarian refugee husband( this is not my site) went there in to Jo burg in 1975 while I stayed in NYC.We were young and wanted to move to a new and exciting country.After 6 weeks in S.Africa my husband returned to the US and we stayed there. He loved Africa though, said it was clean and friendly and so safe.Only reason he came back was we didn't have the funds for me to go over too and not work, He said there was no work for a white 20 year old women who didn't speak African. He really felt good there, would break his heart if I showed him this footage, just horrible, so glad we never moved over there and had kids over there.Husband almost wanted to send for me but him thinking of how many blacks vs whites over there just made him think in the end something bad was going to happen.

for people who have never been to Johannesburg this is the truth.

The most shocking thing to see is the buildings literally crumbling; plaster falling off, bricks missing, windows smashed. Those people will live in them until they are nothing more than piles of bricks, and then burn what's left before moving onto the next building to infect with their very presence. They are no better than parasites, unable to create anything, surviving by feeding off the work of others.

@cindyfoxcroft8872

8 жыл бұрын

total lack of vision

@heleneldridge4996

8 жыл бұрын

Watching this video, I just can't help wondering: why are the windows broken? Under what circumstances do windows get smashed in your home? Under what circumstances do perimeter walls get pulled/knocked over and the bricks never replaced? And inside these buildings the majority of the toilets are broken - how and why? And of course they get blocked on a regular basis. What do people do, what do they try to flush, that blocks a loo? Used the right way, toilets just don't get blocked. Windows are to open, not smash. Rubbish gets put in bins, not just dropped. All of the above doesn't take money, it takes decent, normal living. I know the circumstances are neither decent, or normal, but why make it worse? Why destroy when you have little to begin with?

@SuperDave-vj9en

6 жыл бұрын

Blacks in Africa have on average an IQ of 75. Any time they gain power SA is the result!

@alexhayden2303

6 жыл бұрын

ESSENTIAL for UNDERSTANDING: Douglas Murray, 'The Strange Death of Europe' (2017) Available on KZread as Video lecture or Audio book. (Recommend Audio Book!) Or from book shops.

@SuperDave-vj9en

6 жыл бұрын

This is what you get for apartheid, right? Heh,heh heh.....

Thank you for this video. I hope plenty will watch this. So true what is said that our government just let anybody these days into South Africa. Im a 45 year old and has live my life in all comers of our country and believe me i have seen since we become the "new South Africa" how our "new government" has let things get worse and worse. In the mean time filling there own pockets with our hard working taxes. So sorry to see that our country is going backwards so fast. Dont think we will last long in this country. Just a pity that most in this country walks around not wanting to see what is happening to this amazing country. Such a pity we just put up a front for tourist.

@MrGchiasson

10 жыл бұрын

I just read about the community called 'Orania" Astounding contrast.

Most of these pictures are familiar to me as I resided there and walked these very streets, and visited most of the restaurants/bars/shops. How awfully sad that once such a beautiful and vibrant city is now reduced to nothing. Just like the rest of Africa ....... it is heartbreaking to watch. Change is not always for the better. .....

Amazing to see how fast SA decayed after changing governments

@josephcoleman57

7 жыл бұрын

Not amazing at all. Totally expected to see the exact results.

Very sad and we call this progress!

Wow...tradgic. It is so bleak, from first world to third world.

@SheriffHortixoon

10 жыл бұрын

We were never classed as first world because of the apartheid pressures, but yes we were most certainly world class leaders (1 EG) in mining infrastructure which has also been decimated like everything else in ZA !

Why destroy the infrastructure of a city ? Makes no sense at all. Without infrastructure the city will die along with all thier future hopes of making SA a strong economy and then reaping the benifits. Crazy to destry a city like this

@colinwh111

2 жыл бұрын

Corruption is rife in Africa especially the two largest countries of South Africa and Nigeria.

So sorry for this once majestic city. The same thing has happened to many American cities like Detroit, Cleveland and part of Chicago. I just wonder about all those people who were calling for boycotts against SA in the 80s (I remember) like Sting, Bono, Bruce Springsteen etc could not look at the legacy of what they promoted. This is really sad.

@krishsen2520

8 жыл бұрын

+Noah Gul No, the Asian community, propelled by East Asians/Indians, is estimated to grow from 5% to 7% by 2050 due to low fertility rates. Hispanics will go from 17% to a little over 30%, nearly doubling. The US will become a colony to Mexico soon enough. Or Brazil 2.0 seeing as how demographic trends are going

Sad sad sad,the saddest is that it will get worst and worst.South Africa is gone. Before 1994 everyone had jobs and there was no poverty.................

These people obviously haven't understood anything about Diversity?

Sad how a once powerful nation has fallen into disrepair and ill repute.

I first lived in Leyds Street, Joubert Park and later in Small Street in the early to mid eighties and worked in the City centre. As a young woman I was able to go to the movies, restaurants, discos, clubs and pubs and walk homd safely after dark. Riff raff were kept off the streets and the drunk and disorderly were arrested and locked up by the police. The city streets were swept clean and washed with huge street washer trucks. Even during the day there was hardly a paper on the ground and street bins were regularly emptied on a daily basis. One could spend one's lunch time sitting in any of the parks in the the City Centre, without fear of being mugged or raped or even killed. Thirty years on, it's a whole different world, where one is not even safe driving through Jo'burg, let alone walking.

south africa is headed for the same course as zimbabwe.

this is the difference between one people using their intelligence, discipline, hard work and money to build a nation verses another people using money (if they get it) to buy rims, crack, weave, scratch offs, menthols and bling bling.

the new south Africa... lets all enjoy!

So sad. I was brought up in Bellevue, student life in Yeoville, medical student in Hillbrow. Hillbrow in the 70s and 80s was a cosmopolitan hub; and yes I had black forest cake and coffee at Cafe Zurich.

Its so sad . South Africa was the most developed country in africa is now being depleted bcoz of negligence.

@colinwh111

6 жыл бұрын

South Africa had the biggest economy in Africa but now is in second place to Nigeria. Shows how much mismanagement has occurred since 1990.

@tedtedster8644

5 жыл бұрын

Because of the Jews infact.The ANC was run by a Lithuanian Jew...Joe slovo....Keep in mind that giant Jewish Owned multinationals are STILL extracting big profits out of South Africa....THAT is there only concern....

Awesome video. I just wish you would've included pictures of what it used to look like for comparison

Anyone remember Mulah's record shop, he had the latest 12 inches mixes and blasted the music from some very loud Bose speaker. Oh the good old days. We used to ride the bus from the suburbs when I was a teenage and go and check out the HiFi shops and Mulah's.

This is the horror of multi-culturalism.........

What a waste of good usable buildings !

@Jellostyle

8 жыл бұрын

+James Laurie no worries buildings are cheap. 99% of the world is urbanized.

My entire family fled from that shithole to the UK in 2018 and we could never go back. Just to sleep safely at night is priceless. No more tranquillisers, sleeping tablets and antidepressants. I had to sell up and uproot at age 60. Best move of my life. I cannot say anything good about that hell hole.

What date were these taken? - I was in Joburg 10 years ago and it wasnt quite this bad

...Johannesburg has become like Detroit, Baltimore, parts of LA and most of Africa.....Umm...I wonder why?

The real city of wakanda!

Café Zurich and made the best cakes around. I loved it, what happened to the guy. I had my tour through Hillbrow, first cake and then the musicshop opposite side. Nedbankgebou was not far. I could cry, was a part of my life. Thanks for posting it, Charmaine

@vonsinnen9525

6 жыл бұрын

Marinellas Wallpaper Journal Funny u ask about the cafe Zurich. The son of the owner commented above 3 yrs ago

The underlying point is, as humans overpopulate an area by the belief of entitlement or the continued belief they are victims of some injustice they will lack the spirit to take pride in, or care about community. I have traveled a lot this is certainly not limited to South Africa similar things have happened to Detroit after the flight of the auto industry and jobs. The places that are turning urban blight around are those communities that finally realize the government will not help so they have to get together and clean up the inner cities by taking thier future and destiny into thier own hands. The starting point that is working well are where communities are starting to grow charity food gardens inn the inner city open lots, in flower pot trays and on roof tops. Once people realize it's up to them to set an example of what can be other will follow. permaculturenews.org/2006/03/13/living-on-the-edge-the-balcony-garden-designers-guild/

@lindakx

10 жыл бұрын

Zulumuse....a person of my own heart...you and I think alike. Wouldn't it be nice if the Gov put aside a great big part of the budget and started these projects in every South African "inner city" CBD area...use the Biophilic designs of nature to nurture the people and the spaces. Clean up the immigrants, clean up the crime, eradicate the drugs, police the streets. Hey...let's start inner city farming ! Reuse, replant and re beautify .....if they did, then they got my vote on Wednesday.

@catchristy

10 жыл бұрын

Linda Knox The government is! CofJ spends the most money on public art than any other city in the country. They get huge revenues from tax payers and a now booming inner city and are pumping a vast amount of that back into the city as a whole - take a walk down Main Street one day from one end to the other and you'll exactly how incredible our city is. I'm not naive, I know there is corruption and bureaucracy, but the huge changes that have been made over the last two decades are mind blowing. Joburg is a world player as a global city. This video is unfortunately massively one sided..

@swoopdaddyman5423

5 жыл бұрын

@@catchristy lady your cracked out. Have they killed your white ass yet

equality has been achieved!

When viewing this video, do realise that you are merely staring into the future of every other part of South Africa within a decade. This is Africa, it has to be this way.

Thank you Charmaine. I lived in Johannesburg for 15 years from 1974 including Hillbrow and Berea then moved out into the sticks. Breaks my heart that such a vibrant area was so completely destroyed. I saw it coming in 1983 in downtown Johannesburg and advised a leading consulting company to uproot and move to Sandton. They ignored me and paid a lot later for their mismanagement, as did Unilever in not taking my advise to build a new distribution centre in the then Halfway House area over a paltry ZAR 2million.

@colinwh111

6 жыл бұрын

advice or advisement hmmm

@guydivosta4075

2 жыл бұрын

Colin H, could you please describe what made you see "it coming" back in 1983? Thanks

@colinwh111

2 жыл бұрын

@@guydivosta4075 The centre of Johannesburg, where I worked for some 6 months with a major management consultancy, was losing all its major customers to Sandton and other affluent areas and the centre was daily becoming more lawless, especially at night. I lived outside Johannesburg and over the years due to this lawlessness stopped going into central Johannesburg for entertainment and this entertainment also moved to cater for its audience. I also lived for years in Hillbrow in the 70's when it was quite genteel, but it is now a slum as is Berea.

@guydivosta4075

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinwh111 thanks for responding. I'm from Ukraine. What happened to South Africa (1st world becoming 3rd in a span of few years) fascinates me. I just finished Ian Smith's book "great betrayal" on Rhodesia's sour fate. So, as yearly as 1983, Johannesburg's CBD was already becoming dangerous, at least at night? What was the year (roughly) of old South Africa pinnacle, before at least some people started suspecting future? 1977? 1978? 1980? Thanks again

As a Taiwanese , 20 yrs ago when I was young kid , I always imagined and I hread from Taiwanese media that South Africa is the first world country on par with Australia or Canada with skyscrapers , great architecture ,technology, clean and organized city with full of white people in the city. Then time goes by , I was shocked and learnt that SA was not what I expected at all. Everything is ruin doom fatally dangerous and in great declining. What is happening?

I regularly spent night out in Jo'burg in the 1970s and 80s and never saw this level of poverty and degradation. People fought hard around the world to end apartheid and this is their reward...enjoy!

What the point really is that with everyone moving in from Africa coming to the land of Gold and honey we have this situation. If all the foreigners left we would be able to live together and all have enough jobs etc., the biggest problem was allowing all the people from up in Africa to come here with no money, no skills, so here we sit. I used to live in Hillbrow it was the most amazing place, but, now the Nigerian drug lords have taken it over...................and you can see the results in the video................ Democracy was a sad day in the life of South Africa. It has brought nothing but despair, crime, poverty and people doing anything to actually make a living, even if it means killing for a cell phone.............

Thats interesting and all but have you seen Detroit?

This is what the world asked for...."A new South Africa". Done yourself proud.

I lived in hillbrow aswell as berea and yeovile back in the 80.s the nightlife was superb...what a mess it's become. very sad but that's Africans for you!

Once upon a time there was a frog which was dropped into water so hot that it leaped out, shocked - and saved itself. Later it was dropped into tepid water which it found very pleasant Then the water began to warm up but only imperceptibly so the frog remained lulled and relaxed, becoming more and more warm and sleepy...until it was too late to escape, and it was boiled to death! RIP Johannesburg

I actually got quite teary eyed watching this ...so sad what has become of what once a beautiful clean and attractive city, formerly known as the "City of Gold" gone to rack and ruin. Other cities is SA following suit at a rapid pace. Cry our beloved country .....

I used to call Jo'burg home, now I call England home, although not quite sure that's okay either.

what makes me sad about it is the fact that all these places have memories for me growing up I cannot believe it now looks that bad. I haven't been there in years and I was thinking of visiting however you saved me a massive disappointment.

States are right behind.

I just feel sad to see it. Wish we can get it back.

@Chillednfunked

9 жыл бұрын

Div Bro Sandton is a wealthy suburb, it's not Johannesburg itself you are misinformed. The crime is horrendous - no it's definitely not getting better at all.

Pictures of Detroit in the 50's and now have the same contrasts and the same things in common.

Makes me sick to see what has happened in Johannesburg. Does anybody know who is in charge of the old Johannesburg Sun Hotel these days? I'm keen to do an article on it, and would love to get inside and explore.

I lived in Hilbrow in the 80s & it was the place to be, smart cars, nice restaurants & shops etc now its an utter hellhole full of illegal immigrants, drugs & prostitution. Well done ANC..& its getting worse.

Absolutely depressing

So Charmaine, what is the cause of this do you think? What has caused the poverty.

Johannesburg is South Africa's Detroit?

this is a warning to the world ...we are all importing people that live like this and make beautiful cities into slums...very sad..

The is rather a sad misrepresentation of the Johannesburg CBD. Anyone who has visited the inner city will agree that this is not the case, instead, we see improvements and growth everyday. Most buildings have been restored, and many multi national corporations and government departments call this city home. It is a working progress, and anyone with the vision and faith for this country's future is welcome to take part. I, myself, live in a gorgeous apartment in the Marshaltown borough, and I remain perplexed by such lies, negativity and longing for such dark past behind, to join the many South Africans progressing towards the future.

@peterw4596

8 жыл бұрын

+Akhona Mangesana Utter nonsense. New Town is the only 'decent' part of the city and even it is looking rather shabby. The rest of the city is literally falling apart.

Left in 1983. So sad but expected.

So sad and scary, too! Makes me fear for the future of this continent, considering SA to be the first-ranking country in Africa. We in Egypt have always looked with repect and admiration at the SA model. Why isn't the rest of the world doing anything?

The title of this video should read: "The Death (or decay) of the Johannesburg CBD". There are other parts of Johannesburg that are thriving and in different phases of existence and transition. This kind of video and very personal narrative is certain to stir some emotions and get people's feathers ruffled. Its great that someone like Charmaine is exploring and dealing with her feelings about her city, the past, her personal identity as well as her notions of the 'South African' identity here, so hats off to her. But it is a complex and layered thing...All cities change and areas undergo major metamorphosis all around the world. I am also very sad that this has happened to the CBD because I have such fond memories of another time and beautiful moments I have experienced on these streets and in these buildings. But it is a new day and people continue to exist in this city, trying to make the most of what they have. Even though it doesn't have the opulence and sparkling grandeur of a time gone by, I am certain that some people take pride in their city or dingy apartments and children still smile and laugh here every day. One must be careful not to patronize those living in the city, as in "poor them" or more so "poor me... that I have to look upon this awfulness". It becomes awkward...But, the fact is that the government and city council should do far more to ensure the safety, decent standards of living, health and prosperity of their citizens. The neglect is tremendous and unforgivable. The mayor and their team should be working around the clock to come up with innovative ways to improve the lives of Johannesburgers, especially those who have a hard life in a much disrespected inner city.

@markc1234golf

6 жыл бұрын

We should ALL be living in farms self sufficient and away from citie's .... our spirits just die when we dwell in such places.

As a child I always wondered about the meaning of this bible verse which was rammed down our throats "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me," I think it is called "when the chickens come home to roost"

I remember going up those escalators to the squash centre. Wasn't 'Cafe du Paris' at the top to the right? Very sad. I also remember the famous Black Forest cake at 'Cafe Zurich' so well. Hillbrow was such a great place to go. Bella Napoli was the place we all went to. Sad sad sad.

@TagmakersCoUk

8 жыл бұрын

+Peter W . Yes... you were able to enjoy all these things at the time - because you are WHITE. Look at communities (pre 1961) where people of all races and cultures lived together (Sophiatown, District 6). These were vibrant, happy and socially well-knit communities. They may have been poor, but the people shared everything in their space. Glitzy Hillbrow of the 1970's and 1980's is a totally alien concept to the precinct's new inhabitants. It's now serving a new purpose, and while much of it is undesirable, that's part of its evolution. Like all closet racists, you hanker after your "privileged" past.

Now imagine this city with few people walking about. The result will be something resembling Detroit.

It's sad to see the decline of a once great city.

I'm not surprised, how typical, the world should take notice

I totally get your point. This is exactly why South Africans are so disgusted with zuma and his government, for spending millions of Rands on Nkandla, when so many people have to live like this. Our corrupt government do not care about these people. This is what happens to a city when it is not maintained. You mentioned the smell...we went on a tour of Hillbrow, about 10 years ago, the stench was unbelievable then! I am sure it must be far worse now. I grew up in Hillbrow, Joubert Park was my playground. There used to be a grandstand where dixy bands used to come and play their music on Sundays. In civilized countries, they look after their city centre...what does this say about us? Does poverty and filth go hand-in-hand? No, it doesn't...it is a mindset. If you are happy trashing everything and living in filth, you will do so, not matter where you live.

even if this was your video Charmaine..there is nothing wrong with showing how bad things are there, people don't realise unless they can see it..well done for posting!

I searched for a video like this. I was driving through jhb the weekend and was shocked. Wish we had pictures of before and now.

love the music. Memories from a time gone by. I sometimes stop and wonder. If only buildings could speak.

none of them takes social responsibility and someone else is doing it to them even though there is no one else there.... odd phenomenon of their group effort....

Beniamino, Charmaine pointed out that her views are irrelevant; she posted on someone's behalf. I see dirt and misery, and I see decay. I see vibrant areas that have gone backwards. I concede that the video maker clearly has an agenda. He or she is trying to express their own viewpoint.

@jjscarhospitalworkshop3290

10 жыл бұрын

dont agree, she is showing the world how a once beautiful glamorous city has fallen to ruins due to the new government, the poor were promised houses they did not get and now they just go a live where ever they want.

@patrizianicol784

10 жыл бұрын

JJ's Car Hospital Workshop It has nothing to do with poverty…so just because you did not get free housing they must behave that way? It's called Dignity you don't buy it…it's for free.

@catchristy

10 жыл бұрын

JJ's Car Hospital Workshop The poor have actually got loads of housing in the city, google Brickfields as an example. There has been massive regeneration of the city. The photos in this video (especially of Hillbrow) are out of date. It's vibrant, bustling, yes with it's problems, but doing oh SO much better than the portrayal of this video. I think it's sad that all you guys are missing out on what this incredible city of ours has to offer!

I lived in Joburg for a few years in the70's. It was never pretty, but it was clean, vibrant and safe. Quite unbelievable that it has turned into a such a shithole.

whats ur point charmaine? poverty is bad? you rather see all this brand new and shining and rich people in front of it? what is your precise point in this video ? Cause I don't see dirt and misery, I see people struggling to be part of that so called new south africa.

@Dr.Nagyonfaj

10 жыл бұрын

No - the point is NOT that poverty is bad. But being poor does not entitle you to completely ruin/burn/trash/deface perfectly good buildings. Does being poor mean that you should be a vandal?

@beniamino49

10 жыл бұрын

it does surely and logically implies that you live in poor conditions that make you in the street more often than usual; It can also grow hatred and violence to the system as you think you are abandoned by it. Rebellion to the system when the system creates poverty is legitime for one. I assume you live in good or fair conditions and therefore the system is globally positive to you: which is not the case for everyone out there. Unfortunately.

@Halfmanrocks

10 жыл бұрын

beniamino49 : I get your point, when someone is faced with poverty and a lack of help, things fall apart, people take action. However, I think the point of this video is to show how things have fallen apart over the years, places that everyone could feel safe in and enjoy their time out. It's interesting though, with the ANC coming into power 20 years ago, you would expect them to have kept their promises, creating multiple new jobs, maintaining our country, moving forward, which just shows you how much they have really done for us...basically nothing. Rather than attempting to be negative towards this video, I would take the knowledge I have gained and put a plan together to make our country a better one for all. The main point behind this video is really just to show how things have fallen apart where it could in fact have helped our nation push forward if something was done about it, but then again, you know where our tax money is going to, nkandla stye. Sad...we really should place our president in a place with zero luxuries, for 5 years, while making him help others have a better life, maybe then he'll understand what everyone is going through these days, you're either rich or straight up poor, no middle class peeps...

@beniamino49

10 жыл бұрын

Very interesting is your point Warren Schluter. I have lived in South Africa for a few years and came back to Europe . Have been involved in a few social and development actions for South African people. I have found in love with your country and the people in it. I understand ANC is not ruling this country the way they should, and corruption is everywhere. But is it any different in Europe ? NO , officially there is no bribery, but its everywhere ! Otherwise, instead of broadcasting a negative image of your country, i think its always best to showcase positivity, ideas and solutions. If there is problem in Joburg, then they must be solutions and there are people working in social or other that are trying to change things and improve conditions. DO not forget it. Governement is just a very tiny part of the global action. Lastly, before criticizing, ask yourself what do you do everyday to make a difference ? And dont try to tell me is the State's duty. ITS EVERYONE. Everyone can make a small difference. 1+1 = 3 as we say.

@SheriffHortixoon

10 жыл бұрын

See ! you do get the point... The 'white' South Africans GAVE the 'black' man an opportunity which he proceeded to demolish like they are known and accustomed to doing. This has nothing to do with poverty but rather a high level of corruption which has marred this once rich, rich country. If you 'expected' the ANC to make any better providence toward the country without any formal overlap of power transmission, then I'm afraid you seem nothing more than another disillusioned non-South African. Give them a finger and they take your soul !

I think this video has 2 sides. 1 it does show the decay of a few areas in the city and yes it's sad! I grew up in Yeovil and bez valley my dad ran cafe Zurich and owned a couple of night clubs in hillbrow and I have very fond memories of being there in the early days! Skating in Carlton centre and dining in hillbrow tower! But urban decay happens everywhere and unfortunately where you ha e extreme. Poverty you get things run down and looking in a state. Yes our government are rubbish but so were the last government too! Jo'burg is a vibrant city with a lot going for it, the city is getting new life breathed into her. Braamfontien has become a hip, trendy place to be with new bars, coffee shops, pattiseri's and restaurants with the neighbourhoods market at the forefront of it all! Then there's maboneng precinct in jeppe with arts on main , modern bars markets and all things foodie! New town has been on the up for some time Melville is getting rejuvenated! I'm actually in the process of opening up a restaurant there myself! Green side north cliff sandton bedfordview, Soweto, all buzzing! So you see if you look at Jozi with pessimistic eyes, you'll only see the gloom be optimistic this place has potential you just gotta give her a chance

@Chillednfunked

9 жыл бұрын

chuffmieaster You are referring to suburbs, those places always existed. It is gloom because there is no hope the place is going to the dogs it's fact. Look at the crime statistics, look at the corruption in the government, no point in pretending or burying one's head in the sand.

@vonsinnen9525

6 жыл бұрын

chuffmieaster Hi! What happened since ur comment? Are u still in SA?

Detroit all over again!!

It is future of any Western city. You just wait.

seems like Soweto in a time of Apartheid was a better place to live than Joburg today...

My parents and I use to walk in Yeoville it was so nice back then ice-cream parlor, Mama's pizza was famous in Yeoville that was in the late 80's I still remember Vintage stores in Rockey Street. Now its sad gone to the shitter and so unsafe.

The difference between the Black South African mindset and Soviet Russia circa 1950 is VERY similar. Punish and sideline all the educated types who built and managed the country to "get even". They think that just taking from the rich and giving to poor solves problems. The ANC are too ignorant to understand that the leading edge thinkers are needed to run a modern economy. Without highly educated people familiar with advanced teck and finaince ability managing the show corruption and chaos is INEVITABLE. SA has now begun the attack on white farmers who have 200plus years of experience in efficient farming practices.... Watch SA food production continue to fall as the violent expropriation of farms accelerates in 2018. When SA becomes a another African basketcase the WEST should NOT send even 1 bag of rice and flour... SA will bring food shortages and trade deficits to their own citizens..This is/was an avoidable catastrophe. Racism towards whites will bring hell to poor blacks once the whites are gone when the economy freefalls.

Thanks Charmaine! And to think I used to party in these areas back in 1990 when it was safe and completely modern. Look at it now, another city like third world Africa. What a shame that which was once built for the people, by the people now completely destroyed! What a shame!

Is this Detroit

I remember the Kentucky Fried Chicken spot oh my you bringing back memories I grew up a street away on the same road.

I am going to share this because I think awareness is what's needed. The beautiful creations deliberately destroyed and there is no excuse for filth. So many places in SA have the destroy and filth trend....everywhere. What a waste of money to rebuild and restore. 43mill people live here and 15mill unemployed and at least 25 mill are poor. The 3mill people that are tax payers can never correct the problem. So sad. Just start with....stop the filth.

the proof speaks for itself... abandon the place if you haven't already... when the engine goes out you get a NEW Car :) any place is a collective work of the people that comprise it...

The apartments were on corner twist and vd mere streets and I grew up there....makes me so sad

Thank you Master Lincoln...

Eish....once everything is gone and everyone has nothing THAN will Africa be happy. Not long to go by the looks of things

Kumbayah........ Everything is lost, and nobody cares about it. A truly sad story of what was once a prosperous and safe nation.

The Leaping Impala are alive & well! Yes they were vandalised, the brass horns & hooves were hacked of and sold, but fortunately they were saved from total annihilation by the Oppenheimer's and fully restored by the original artists son. They now take their place in the Anglo American Campus. Nationalisation of the mines may however see them extinct.

And this is why the businesses moved to Sandton...

I have a photo of when I was 10 standing next to the impalas, how sad.

What a legacy the current inhabitants leave behind!

the Zombie Apocalypsys.....

Post apartheid alot of wealthy companies with billions invested in SA pulled out because they had no idea what to expect. It was no longer worth the financial risk when they all knew what would eventually happen, Incompetence and corruption.

Locals breed themselves into poverty. Single mothers with multiple children from different fathers is common place

We had a building in plain street , near the barracks