The Dark Side Of Mansa Musa's 🇲🇱 Pilgrimage | Islamic History Podcast

The #hajj of #mansamusa is one of the most famous pilgrimage's of all time. The fabulously wealthy emperor of #Mali single-handedly altered the price of gold for years.
But there's more to the story. There is a dark side that no one ever talks about.
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  • @markivrimusic5610
    @markivrimusic5610 Жыл бұрын

    His actions are what put Mali and West Africa literally on the map but his actions are also what put a Target on West Africa's back and shortly after they came

  • @raidergainzx5290

    @raidergainzx5290

    Жыл бұрын

    They are also the actions that got us trying to figure out where our ancestors are to this day.

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    @@raidergainzx5290 The transatlantic slave trade was much bigger than Mansa Musa. He may have played a distant, indirect role. But there were many more significant factors that led to the European development of the transatlantic slave industry.

  • @user-lq7qj8ue1x

    @user-lq7qj8ue1x

    Жыл бұрын

    @@islamichistorypodcast the judeochristian transatlantic slave trade was a crusade started by the Portuguese

  • @ynot2847

    @ynot2847

    Жыл бұрын

    His boastful flexing and flossing led a pack of Hyenas tribes of medieval barbaric conquerors back to his trove of treasures and self destructions...

  • @moosa9850

    @moosa9850

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-lq7qj8ue1x West Africans also played a huge roll in the downfall of the entire African continent, West Africans captured and sold many of Khoekhoe clans from South of the Cuanza River in Anglo to the Portuguese, hence many Brazilians look very "coloured" hate using that term, same happened with Mozambique (Musa bin Baiq). Before modern Europeans, came to conquer and rape Africa, the Khoekhoe clans traded, with Dravidian, Malay, Arab and Chinese traders, who settled and married, hence the rise of the Ottentottu clan, who stretched from northern Kenya to the southern tip of Africa. We have archeological and oral evidence of this. With the socalled bantu expansion, many Khoekhoe and Ottentottu clans have either been decimated or left at the brink of extinction. The San/Ottentottu are a minority in their own lands, a once proud nation reduced to the fascination of anthropologist and abuse by occupiers and settlers.

  • @lewislyles2342
    @lewislyles2342 Жыл бұрын

    I know a school teacher said his life was glorious. Which is partially true until he became broke in a foreign land.

  • @Blueridge4000
    @Blueridge4000 Жыл бұрын

    They also hit the Mediterranean trade root & where they encountered the Europeans & about 60yrs later there began first form of colonialism & the trans Atlantic slave trade.

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    European slave trade. The Africans and Arabs were already involved in it. But I get your point.

  • @brixcosmo6849

    @brixcosmo6849

    9 ай бұрын

    @@islamichistorypodcast All the World was! Africa was no exception! Even Japanese traded Japanese for weapons! TRUTH about the Transatlantic Slave Trade kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5p1q9Vyl5u9kpM.html The African Trade - History Channel kzread.info/dash/bejne/m2qOm5KIm7fVe9Y.html The Forgotten Arab Slave Trade of East Africa kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ1p0piAfq25p5c.html

  • @Mlanjana
    @Mlanjana Жыл бұрын

    Wow never heard about the return leg of his hajj.

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. Everyone talks about the first part when he was spending money all over Egypt. The second part was not so glamorous.

  • @HISTORYUN
    @HISTORYUN Жыл бұрын

    Kneel down and kiss this ground, were they serious?

  • @BennyBoxx
    @BennyBoxx Жыл бұрын

    Great content but such a tragic story.

  • @ironwox
    @ironwox8 ай бұрын

    I know this is racist. But it does sound like normal Egyptian behavior. (Sadly)

  • @serycoul
    @serycoul Жыл бұрын

    Soundiata was his grand father refer to trip of ibn battuta

  • @abdouliejammeh8680

    @abdouliejammeh8680

    Жыл бұрын

    His great great grandfather

  • @damienbrown1561
    @damienbrown1561Ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, in west Africa there is no written history by the native population written in real time before and around the medieval period. Unfortunately that means we will never have a detailed history of west africa and much is forever lost in time.

  • @serycoul
    @serycoul Жыл бұрын

    Kankan moussa wasnt a keita but his grand mother was sister of soundiata keita

  • @AfriasporaFilms

    @AfriasporaFilms

    5 ай бұрын

    If so, what was KanKan Musa’s family name?

  • @Ballu12345
    @Ballu12345 Жыл бұрын

    What's The Source of this knowledge?

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    African Dominion by Michael A Gomez

  • @dogstar6138

    @dogstar6138

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the source.

  • @krightcarr4785
    @krightcarr47857 ай бұрын

    This part is left out of the narrative. What betrayal! Have we yet to learn our lesson??? This reminds me of the betrayal of the Moroccan invasion of Songhay in 1591, supposedly fellow Muslims. Thanks for sharing!

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @user-rr5ui8eo9x

    @user-rr5ui8eo9x

    2 ай бұрын

    arabs

  • @nagwaeltoum5267
    @nagwaeltoum5267 Жыл бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @TikyeWilliams
    @TikyeWilliams5 күн бұрын

    We are our own worst enemy sometimes

  • @oulennopoorkaba
    @oulennopoorkaba Жыл бұрын

    (Mansa have baraaden (workers) is Mandinka words) African histories is writing by non Africans , what do you expect?

  • @brixcosmo6849

    @brixcosmo6849

    9 ай бұрын

    You're in denial! TRUTH about the Transatlantic Slave Trade kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5p1q9Vyl5u9kpM.html The African Trade - History Channel kzread.info/dash/bejne/m2qOm5KIm7fVe9Y.html The Forgotten Arab Slave Trade of East Africa kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ1p0piAfq25p5c.html

  • @jetsetjourneysofficial
    @jetsetjourneysofficial Жыл бұрын

    is there any evidence outside of Islam that he actually lived?

  • @Misbahahsan

    @Misbahahsan

    Жыл бұрын

    Aferican dominion book

  • @omaribnalahmed5967

    @omaribnalahmed5967

    Жыл бұрын

    His life has nothing to do with the religion of Islam?

  • @jilanka1057

    @jilanka1057

    Жыл бұрын

    @@omaribnalahmed5967 he is a Muslim

  • @brixcosmo6849

    @brixcosmo6849

    9 ай бұрын

    @@omaribnalahmed5967 LOL Mali only florished under the Islamic World after the Ummayad Caliphate conquered all Arabia, Mesopotamia, Levante and North Africa in 7th Century AD. Till being Islamized Timbuktu was not even a permanent settlement. It became a center of knowledge and study 'cause of the Islamic World. Mansa Musa ruled in 14th Century! He was born under the Islamic World control of Mali and all North Africa. Why do you think he went to Cairo and Mecca!? To pay respect to the Arab Sultans! Like the good vassal that he was!

  • @brixcosmo6849

    @brixcosmo6849

    9 ай бұрын

    @@atrain9610 Facts! Go study there was no Mali Empire before the Umayyad Caliphate conquered and converted all North Africa to Islam in 7th Century AD. There was no Mali Empire when all the Islamic World entered in decline in the 15th Century. Defeated by Portuguese and Spanish in the West. Defeated by Turkish-Ottoman in the East. Mali still tried to fight Portuguese around 1441 in the Coasts of Mali. But in 1470 Portuguese were settling in Elmina, Ghana allying with local tribes that used to be Mali's vassals. Mansa Musa's Empire was very brief and in everything influenced by the Umayyad Caliphate, Fatimids, Almoravids, Almohads, Nasrids, etc that controlled all Arabia, Mesopotamia, Levante, North Africa and Iberian Peninsula. "The empire was founded by Sundiata Keita (c. 1214 - c. 1255) and became renowned for the wealth of its rulers, especially Mansa Musa (Musa Keita). At its peak, Mali was the largest empire in West Africa, widely influencing the culture of the region through the spread of its language, laws and customs." All of those were Arabic and Muslim! And by the way this happens after Portugal was born in 1143 and defeated the last Muslim Sultan in Algarve (South Portugal) in 1249. 106 years after! "Following the death of Sundiata Keita in c. 1255, the kings of Mali were referred to by the title mansa. In c. 1285 Sakoura, a former royal court slave, became emperor and was one of Mali's most powerful rulers, greatly expanding the empire's territory. He made a pilgrimage to Mecca during the reign of Mamluk Sultan An-Nasir Muhammad (r. 1298-1308), but died on his voyage home. Mansa Musa took the throne in c. 1312. He made a famous pilgrimage to Mecca from 1324 to 1326, where his generous gifts and his expenditure of gold caused significant inflation in Egypt. Maghan I succeeded him as mansa in 1337, but was deposed by his uncle Suleyman in 1341. It was during Suleyman's 19-year reign that Ibn Battuta visited Mali. Suleyman's death marked the end of Mali's Golden Age and the beginning of a slow decline."

  • @safirijorgensen7842
    @safirijorgensen78429 ай бұрын

    Moral of the story.. Black folks Stop showboatin 😂

  • @magdiamer7519
    @magdiamer751911 ай бұрын

    Don't you feel that things don't add up? a less powerful king mistreating a more powerful king that is known for his great military power. Billions of dollars spent in one city like if Mena was a fool, to the point that he didn't have money to make the trip back. Bandits attacking an army of at least 20000, on a route that is traveled by thousands every year during Haj without any such attacks being recorded in history to anyone else.

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    1. Why do you assume it's not recorded? 2. Mansa Musa and his caravan strayed away from the well-known hajj paths and got disconnected from their guide. 3. That 20,000 number diminished over time as would be expected when lost in the desert. 4. The bandits attacked and kidnapped stragglers

  • @magdiamer7519

    @magdiamer7519

    11 ай бұрын

    @@islamichistorypodcast en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa_Musa

  • @magdiamer7519

    @magdiamer7519

    11 ай бұрын

    @@islamichistorypodcast Mansa Musa was a great leader and a devoted Muslim. That gold he had was given to the poor and he has built a new mosque every Friday. He was not an idiot that let Egyptians outsmart him. The arab scholars that lived around his time like al Umri and Ibn Khaldun wrote about him and highly praised him. Only Gomez talked about him as an idiot and promoted the idea that white arabs outsmarted him. We have the great University of Sankore to proove that Gomez is the idiot, not Musa

  • @AsSudan33

    @AsSudan33

    4 ай бұрын

    @@magdiamer7519Masha Allah

  • @user-rr5ui8eo9x

    @user-rr5ui8eo9x

    2 ай бұрын

    well what do you see

  • @admirekashiri9879
    @admirekashiri987911 ай бұрын

    That was the major problem with African empires. They adopted Abrahamic religions and assumed the people they interacted with saw them as brethren, the same thing happened with the Songhai empire when invaded by Morocco they didnt see the threat and didnt adopt guns and measures. Also in Morocco when the ruler was told he was allowed to enslave even black Muslims despite this being forbidden in your religion. Lesson don't assume just because one follows your religion they see you as an equal. In fact in many modern Islamic countries in the Middle East they treat maids from Africa like slaves even if they're Muslim.

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    11 ай бұрын

    You're conflating multiple issues in an attempt to demonize and Muslims. Prejudice exists among Muslims just like it exists among all people. There are African ethnic groups who are prejudiced against other African ethnic groups. In fact, some of them have waged brutal wars against each other. You are also assuming African Muslims are stupid. They are well aware of the bias some Arab Muslims may have. But, here's a surprise: Not all Arab Muslims are racist against Black people. In fact... most of them are not racist. You're taking the actions of a few wealthy Arabs today, and trying to correlate it to what happened to Mansa Musa 600 years ago. Empires rise and empires fall. That's the nature of empires. But Islam was not a "problem" for the West African empires as you postulate. Islam, in most cases, was actually the reason for their existence.

  • @some1350

    @some1350

    8 ай бұрын

    I don't think there is any significant evidence that Songhai was invaded for racial reasons. Furthermore, there was a revolt in Morroco and one of the reasons was because they invaded the Songhai Empire. In Morroco, a lot of the people saw the invasion of Timbuktu as a sign of the end of times.

  • @some1350

    @some1350

    8 ай бұрын

    @@islamichistorypodcast Well it was still imposed on African people, the problem is people who follow Abrahamic religions have a tendency to take themselves too seriously.

  • @AfriasporaFilms

    @AfriasporaFilms

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@some1350Islam spread in West Africa primarily through peaceful interactions, trade, political alliances for strategic reasons and above all because of Islamic spirituality known as Sufism. Many of the merchants trading throughout West Africa were Sufis and practiced Islamic medicine and healing arts. Most Africans became Muslim peacefully not through war. Those rare occasions when conversion was coerced, the people reverted to traditional practices only to convert again to Islam peacefully without compulsion much later.

  • @some1350

    @some1350

    5 ай бұрын

    @@AfriasporaFilms Well I'm not an expert on the history, but you can compel somebody to convert without using brute force. You're also to an extent missing the point, even if the means are entirely benign, it's still wrong. People shouldn't be concerned with trying to convert people to their religion. What relgion people practice is nobodies business.

  • @trafficcopi9458
    @trafficcopi9458 Жыл бұрын

    THIS VIDEO WAS, EDITED BY A EUROPEAN. THAT ADDED HIS OWN BAD STORY TO THE GREATEST MANSA.... WE KNOW BETTER

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    No it wasn't. I'm a black American Muslim, descendant of slaves.

  • @charlotteh8174

    @charlotteh8174

    14 күн бұрын

    Owned, racist fool.

  • @Thinkdragon1982
    @Thinkdragon1982 Жыл бұрын

    Who is “they?” White man? 😂

  • @islamichistorypodcast

    @islamichistorypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe. Maybe not.

  • @calvinjackson1083
    @calvinjackson1083 Жыл бұрын

    If he was a king he could not be the richest man ever King Solomon is the richest king ever

  • @moosa9850

    @moosa9850

    Жыл бұрын

    Finally somebody who knows their history

  • @marvinlarose8533

    @marvinlarose8533

    Жыл бұрын

    Proof please

  • @wickhunter7733

    @wickhunter7733

    3 күн бұрын

    @calvinjackson1083 No evidence of a King Solomon and yet you know that he was rich because the fictional bible tells you? Did the speaking donkey also exist?

  • @user-rr5ui8eo9x
    @user-rr5ui8eo9x2 ай бұрын

    Mansa Musa did not have slaves, those were employed servants

  • @charlotteh8174

    @charlotteh8174

    14 күн бұрын

    Incorrect, do not be delusional in order to support racist ideas.

  • @WillNelson73

    @WillNelson73

    8 күн бұрын

    No. They were actually slaves. Mansa Musa used slaves to mine that gold. He had thousands of slaves

  • @safirijorgensen7842
    @safirijorgensen78429 ай бұрын

    Black men... Been Showboatin Walking Egos Smfh