Do you recycle your electronic waste?

@elzers6209

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, i fix computers, tvs, phones and other things in Chile. That's why i'm studying a technician in electronics

@thecoolboy86gaming82

4 жыл бұрын

No i sell em

@h00b00

4 жыл бұрын

I try to use it as long as I can (Typed on a phone from 2016)

@yengsabio5315

4 жыл бұрын

I donate my used electronics to an organization that properly process them.

@shawbros

4 жыл бұрын

I drop my electronics off at a nearby Household Hazardous Waste. They have different areas there for Cardboard/paper, fluorescent bulbs, electronics, rechargeable batteries, paint, auto fluids, etc.

So WALL-E really predicted future.

@mysticaldevotion863

4 жыл бұрын

guess from where the idea of wall-e came....

@joacquinperez5593

4 жыл бұрын

skankhunt 42 the future '-'

@summergram

4 жыл бұрын

wow I was just going to say the same, the heaps of e-wadte remimded me of the opening scene!

@choutarokujo7686

4 жыл бұрын

@skankhunt 42 are you Kyle's dad, the jew?

@ryno4ever433

4 жыл бұрын

@skankhunt 42 It came from the present. The plot of Wall-e was based off of the way we manage our waste.

I use my phone and electronics until they are completely unusable. It's harder to reprogram and update a phone's software than it is to buy a new one but honestly I prefer it. I get attached to my devices and I refuse to give it up without a very good reason. There is a culture of fast consumption of goods that needs to be addressed on all levels; from fashion to electronics. Get attached to your things, buy only if you have to and treat it with respect.

@592sunrise

4 жыл бұрын

Used it pass its value..until its nonfunctional...

@ultramewmewfan

4 жыл бұрын

@@592sunrise with care and consideration, devices can last for years.

@revenevan11

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Then I often buy refurbished for my "new" device. I also enjoy the feeling of making something from very little or basic resources, or from junk/scraps, so I enjoy salvaging parts from old desktops and the like in order to piece together a working one!

@ultramewmewfan

4 жыл бұрын

@@revenevan11 while I'm not good at building, I'm good at customising the software for needs and it's a very fulfilling way to care for your items

@jeinnerabdel

4 жыл бұрын

I agree on half of what you said, not because I don't believe you, but because I'm reading only half as my screen is cracked but functional so I keep using my phone instead of getting a new one!

And I would have gotten away with it too If it wasn't for you meddling non-profits!

@shanhussain6114

4 жыл бұрын

Worst Scooby Doo episode ever!!!

@shanhussain6114

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lamster66 Like man, this recycling factory gives me the heeby-jeebies!!!

@shanhussain6114

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lamster66 also, the gang was really bad at planning their road trips weren't they? How often did they run out of gas and were totally lost? 😂🤣

@navb0tactual

4 жыл бұрын

@@shanhussain6114 They should've stopped using regular plot fuel and go premium

@joemedlen2924

4 жыл бұрын

And your no good mangy trackers!

Shipping this stuff off is just moving the problem. If there was much more development and focus on recycling, it might even become very profitable industry. This needs to apply at every level of industry so this idea is part of the design and manufacturing.

@franciscos.2301

4 жыл бұрын

The problem is it isn't profitable and doesn't look like it will be anytime in the near future, hence why it's rapidly becoming such an absurdly gigantic problem. I don't know what the solution is, but I can agree it definitely isn't to just ship it somewhere else...

@FixItStupid

4 жыл бұрын

JUST LIKE NUCLEAR

@Yous0147

4 жыл бұрын

Another way to recycle is to sell or gift out used but usable stuff. F.ex. Instead of throwing out your old console, your old phone or your old desktop, try and see if you can find someone who will take it off of your hands, for money or otherwise. Heck if you're throwing it out, a simple add saying "free phone" would easily pass it over

@torf08

4 жыл бұрын

@@franciscos.2301 Did you watch the whole video? The federal prosecutor at the very end (@9:28) states that the owners of Total Reclaim took home almost $8 million each over the course of time that they were committing fraud (7 years according to a Seattle Times article). If they had properly recycled the components it would have cost approximately $2.5 million total and each would have still made $6.5 million each. $6.5 million over 7 years is ~$930,000 a year. Seems plenty profitable to me.

@juanguzman8034

4 жыл бұрын

It is profitable, I work for a Chinese company doing refurbishment of computers take in for free and sell it and ship the warehouse rent was tax deductible making it essentially free and mostly profits. The refuse was ship to China where they had a manufacturing plant they were able to melt the plastics and reuse it.

"It would have cost about $2.5 million for them to do this properly. So perhaps instead of each of them making $8 million, they would have made $6.5 million each." A story of unbridled greed, sadly repeated so often.

@alexanderx3554

4 жыл бұрын

Except that math just doesn't make sense.

@softpiglet

4 жыл бұрын

5.5 million is still a baffling amount of money. The guy in the video goofed on his math but the point is still valid

@alexanderx3554

4 жыл бұрын

On one had it is greed, another it's opportunity albeit hazardous and perhaps it opens the door to regulations without stiffling business.

@bobroberts2371

4 жыл бұрын

If this is so profitable, why isn't BAN starting their own recycling company?

@sinfulyetsaved

4 жыл бұрын

The fact is its not as profitable as many think especially if ur just a collector.. About 80% of ewaste has no to little recycle value.. It cost more to break the material down that what u can retrieve from it.

Been a scrapper for a little over a year, I must have saved 15 desktop PC's, laptops and tvs from landfills. Most of the PC's work and usually have tonnes of music on them.

@KentHamson

4 жыл бұрын

I just spent the last week trying to repair 3 computers. One has a bad power supply and it is a Dell server that needs a specific replacement. The other freezes during OS splash screen. I can't even load anything from the CD rom before it freezes. The other the mobo is just bad and won't power on. I stripped everything else I could use out of them and taking them to be recycled... somewhere... where? They never told me how to find a responsible recycling company.

@seanhartnett79

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I want to try that.

“But the US never ratified it” oh wow what else is new? 🙄

@saltysoysauce954

4 жыл бұрын

@Celtic Revival / Adfywiad Celtaidd thanks obama 🙄

@algebruh_m8652

4 жыл бұрын

Not this comment...

@Jake-rc4ws

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, put it on your blog!

@Lonech

4 жыл бұрын

Celtic Revival / Adfywiad Celtaidd Why hasnt trump hmm wtf no stfu this is a bipartisan problem

@pupstermobster8567

4 жыл бұрын

@Celtic Revival / Adfywiad Celtaidd here we go again... Why didn't any president? Why didn't any president do anything for anyone? In the end, we continue to use plastic grocery bags, and one time use water bottles, and the list goes on and on.

The burning question in my mind now is, why is there so much e-waste? why do we let companies get away with purposefully outdating or sabotaging their own equipment for sales? (I'm talking iPhones and other smartphones, printers and more importantly ink cartridges, etc?) we're continuously making cheaper quality products for more profit and creating a bigger problem for someone else to take care of. I understand regular wear and tear, but when you take special care of something only for a "software update" or incompatibility to make it useless after 2 years...

@harryroxas6996

3 жыл бұрын

It’s because of our selfishness

@phiksit

3 жыл бұрын

Lobbyists and politicians ensure the costs (negative impacts) of doing business get past on to the rest of us, while the profits go to the big wigs, shareholders and donors who in turn pay off the lobbyist and politician. Wash, rinse, repeat. Tires get a recycling fee tacked on when you purchase them and when they are used up you have to pay a disposal /recycling fee... and 80% of the time they are just burned.

@thefirstsin

2 жыл бұрын

They always get away with it like ex: our new apple product is better ppl buy then toss, Oof they just wouldn't stop monopolizing everything.

@thefirstsin

2 жыл бұрын

@rager trolling korea음경 not in everyone but many many ppl and companies.

@abiez4018

2 жыл бұрын

its not only the companies That cuased the E-waste but everbody caused that

Not just Asia, but Africa also gets a ton of the western ewaste

@albaniaalban

4 жыл бұрын

@Northman Unlike you, then?

@MrDylsha

4 жыл бұрын

Not just Western, I'm sure you get Asian and other wastes. More people live in Africa and Asia and hence more e-waste will come from there. This isn't just a "western" problem, it's a global problem.

@juliankoenraad4066

4 жыл бұрын

Not just E-Waste, my country gets a ton of plastic waste too, shipped from North America and Europe

@mandeepsingh-px3xq

4 жыл бұрын

How else do the yanks pretend to be clean and blame Asia for pollution?

@vinniechan

4 жыл бұрын

@Northman there is a quite decent amount of precious and rare earth material to be salvaged Unfortunately what u get out off doesn't pay for the recycling

Keep on making items that have planned obsolescence and increase waste

@vinaybhat7670

4 жыл бұрын

just like Apple. 🍎

@vasu6494

4 жыл бұрын

*Bitcoin mining has left the chat*

@bradreed2001

4 жыл бұрын

Upgrades people upgrades

@bradreed2001

4 жыл бұрын

What if we had upgradable tech rather than throwing away the whole thing 🤔

@uttiya10

4 жыл бұрын

@@vinaybhat7670 more like Samsung. At least apple provides more than 2 years of software updates

2018: Your old phone is a veritable gold mine 2019: The dark side of electronic waste recycling

@macforme

2 жыл бұрын

Stewie: True... but to make phone thinner and thinner...the manufacturers are using glue to put the phone together instead of screws. It is hard and costly to separate the different types of metal now.

Me: Where to Find Rare Earth Elements? Computer: Did you mean the Elements inside Me

@Relatablename

4 жыл бұрын

@The Random Virgin That's not very nice

@getgamingchris

4 жыл бұрын

Please no one don't make this a suddenly uwu. Please.

@mohammedsami6371

4 жыл бұрын

Kinky

@jhyland87

4 жыл бұрын

Thats kinda cheesy.

@tzwacdastag8223

4 жыл бұрын

@Lucas Zhu and arduino

It absolutely breaks my heart to see electronics, the finest mastery of technology we have so far produced, mistreated and discarded so easily, like a piece of rotten food. I dont recycle mine lightly.

@michealbay1290

4 жыл бұрын

But think of the shareholders 😭

@kornbread5359

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I fix old phones and donate their computing power to science aka BOINC/dreamlab

@macforme

2 жыл бұрын

There is you on one hand ....and on the other are electronic companies that force feed the gullible a new model of TV, computer, phone every 15 months... Or less. Some people can't feed their family properly or pay other bills on time... but they have to have the latest phone or ...what will their friends think!!!!

@Lunar_Capital

Жыл бұрын

I use to fix and part out stuff and if it was truly worthless I would smash them then send them out for proper recycling. It was amazing what I would find on the curbside

Mercury in its poisonous elemental form is only found in LCDs backlit with fluorescent lightbulbs. LED backlit LCDs don't have the problem with mercury. Still better to get rid of the waste in proper ways.

@villevapa194

4 жыл бұрын

@@sphericalred That is true.

One more day of *"I can't believe it's 2019 and this shit is still legal!"*

@bobroberts2371

4 жыл бұрын

BAN would have a greater global affect if they forced countries that currently accept the waste to stop.

@lonestarr1490

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobroberts2371 You realize that "forcing countries" means either sanctions or war? In both cases, it's the people who suffer.

@sophiacristina

4 жыл бұрын

Its hard to create a legislation without loopholes that can control exportation the desirable way.

@bobroberts2371

4 жыл бұрын

Lone Starr I'm saying that BAN needs to force the waste accepting countries to stop, not the USA forcing other countries to stop.

@macforme

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobroberts2371 maybe "convince" would be more palpable than "force"?

these videos are always so well produced. please keep making more.

@thefirstsin

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@danteinferno175

Жыл бұрын

The bad recyclers are a problem but what about the big companies like Apple that produce all this waste but are not held responsible for the recycling???? How about laws that mandate a user can drop off their old iPhone to an Apple shop and Apple will make sure it is recycled properly???

@JaydenJinx

Жыл бұрын

@@danteinferno175 apple already does this, don't they?

@CT-vm4gf

10 ай бұрын

@@danteinferno175Apple is one of the only ones that DOES do this.

As the Prices of Electronics Goods Fall, There will always be an Increase in E-Waste

@ragulu9267

4 жыл бұрын

@skankhunt 42 I am also thinking about this. Why making many models and creating many devices which creates a lot of waste.

@bobroberts2371

4 жыл бұрын

skankhunt 42 As the price of manufacturing falls, the price of singular repairs does not and can't. A TV factory has specialized test equipment and access to custom parts that they can amortize over 100's of thousands of units where as a local TV shop might see a few dozen of a particular type. Also, is anyone going to spend $ 100 on a $ 200 TV and wait a few weeks for parts to arrive?

@jeanvieira1738

4 жыл бұрын

Porno

@jeanvieira1738

4 жыл бұрын

Bob tobert

Greed will be end of the world.

@Hybris51129

4 жыл бұрын

And yet it is one of the surest ways to save it the only problem is finding the way that you can make saving the world viable. Like it or not this is basic human nature at work and it's a lot easier to use it then to try and futilely stop it.

Anyone else just have a cabinet all their family’s old phones go in?

@5head191

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. A drawer stuffed with them. All the way back to the original moto flip phones

@cmonster6

4 жыл бұрын

Ricky Cespedes still got a brand new Nokia flip phone in the box 📦

@StelaTasheva

4 жыл бұрын

Putting something away doesn't mean you are dealing with it (I do keep my old electronics too). Sooner or latter they MUST be recycled in the right manner.

@DanRustle

4 жыл бұрын

nope but way to contribute to ewaste

@kenjett2434

4 жыл бұрын

All those holding onto electronics wish i could collect them as i break everything down into individual components. I refine the metals myself.

If anyone is looking to recycle their Samsung Note 10 I'll take it!

@Snelliscool

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh😂

@1015KillAtron

4 жыл бұрын

Lol! 🙋🏼‍♂️ Me too!

@kostka_bruhowa7848

4 жыл бұрын

any google pixel is mine tbh!

@riglowkun

4 жыл бұрын

Reading this on my Note 10 Plus

@thetechfromheaven

4 жыл бұрын

Wait 2-3 More years for all those burnt in cracked glass fully functioning Note 10's 😆👌

Somehow I get the feeling that this is the beginning of Wall-E in real life.

man I just love your videos, so well put together, so well-edited, and very informative!

What I would like to see, is the manufacturer made responsible for their products, right to the end of its life.

@texforister7023

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, right, then see what your new cell phone, or e-whatever, costs!

@macforme

2 жыл бұрын

That is a fabulous idea. Apple does have a buy back program where they give you a few bucks for your old computer IF you buy a new one. Trouble is...do we know what they do with them??? Some maybe refurbished .... but after looking at this video I don't think anyone could keep up so that stuff doesn't go to ewaste.

Imagine an AI capable of recognizing some devices, screws, chips... and taking the screws, unsoldering the chips, and classifying everything automatically

@danielhu6485

3 жыл бұрын

We’re still far away from that reality unfortunately

@thefirstsin

2 жыл бұрын

You can't really remove gold plating without electro plating it.

@boardsort

11 ай бұрын

@@thefirstsin Electroplating is the depositing of gold, not the removal. You are thinking of reverse electroplate and it is not the preferred method as it is slow and only works with certain base metals. Besides, there are many, many ways to safely and effectively recover gold including incineration, leaching and acidic dissolution.

We should learn a lesson from this video and that is "use your product a little longer then throwing it away for some shiny new thing". What you guy's say, huh?

@Dawid-kn6mv

4 жыл бұрын

But that would hurt hipsters who "need" to always have a new iPhone and prefer complaining about goverment not caring for enviroment than doing something actualy something useful themselfs.

@alexsiemers7898

4 жыл бұрын

At the bare minimum, just save your dead electronics in storage for now. I have an old laptop and an iPhone that haven’t worked for at least 3 years, yet I can’t bring myself to throw them away. It was purely sentimental value at first, but now I feel that this is another good reason. Meanwhile I’m typing this on an iPhone 8, and have zero plans to upgrade anytime soon.

@amanjha9945

4 жыл бұрын

@Dawid,@Alex siemers. INDEED IT IS TRUE you see those guys will always be there. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. So let's start by ourselves and by the way I'm using a 2017 VIVO phone cause in INDIA YOU CANT afford a APPLE product. Best of luck.

@chaoticlife311

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dawid-kn6mv That's because they didnt know better. Let's show them.

@ElixirEcho

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexsiemers7898 That's how you turn into a hoarder bro.

Wow this is what journalism should be. Telling the public about the wrongs committed in secret. Thanks for this awesome video, I subscribed ;)

I dug out my brother's WinXP computer, it's wonderful. No longer will I have to sell my soul to make old games work.

@phiksit

3 жыл бұрын

Still using multiple laptops daily that are running XP.

Love how they just traveled to Asia to prove it was their lmao

As an Ewaste specialist myself I do what I can to minimize Ewaste coming from New Zealand. A tip for anyone else in the industry is to up-cycle PCs which can still be used for light workloads like word processing and sell it on the cheap to those who may need an upgrade from their ancient systems, that way your doing good for both your community and the planet.

@Away0G

4 жыл бұрын

same and also same for most companies out there. Reuse is a huge part of recycling. Except that sometimes the market for this reuse is in the middle east or africa, where emerging tech is a decade behind and they can use the material we would consider scrap.

Wow, The Verge, what a great video. Superior job of the crew!

i already tell my all neighbours i will fix your electronics like phone, tv, BT speakers printers. just don't throw it away or sell it to scrappers.... but most of them sell it to scrapers but when some of them ask me to repair smartphone, i fix it for free but they still give me some money and it is very satisfying 😃👍 I am from India and i just want to say that everyone should try to fix their own things and if you still dont need it just give it away to someone who would like to fix or reuse it

@anfolt

4 жыл бұрын

JerryRigEverything must've been proud of you

@dharmeshsolanki4354

4 жыл бұрын

@@anfolt yah and i love when he make smartphone's back glass transparent... it looks really cool

@dharmeshsolanki4354

4 жыл бұрын

@Brian Troisi its my hobby. i just love to see inside electronics 😀

@BertGrink

4 жыл бұрын

and if it is unfixable, like Apple's products, don't buy it

Thank you for keeping an eye on what’s going.

Can you make a follow up piece of latest technologies to dismantle eWaste in Western countries?

Behind almost every problem you can think of there is always one culprit, human greed.

I'm amazed that this channel hasn't reached a million subscribers yet.

verge science is so valuable information. Very neutral and objective. love it

A great way to boost profit if you recycle locally would be to sell valuables online. I see a lot of recyclers who receive desirable vintage computers and list them on ebay with decent turnover rates. There's more money to be made and another classic machine gets saved.

That last statement really rings home why we are in the situation we're in.

I like electronic i like to take things apart I often dumpster dive for old electronics Mostly computers I feel really bad for the electronics that end up in landfills We can fix them We need to refurbish more

I worked for an electronics recycling company over the summer and we got devices with the trackers implanted in them. Our manager would warn us daily to look out for them. We would get in trouble if they were trashed instead of recycled

Great video thanks for this wonderful reporting on this important issue

Thanks for this crucial work you guys are doing!

Great documentary mate, keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!!

4:13 or the sludge is from dissolving the boards in acid. Absolutely terrible for the workers and the environment.

Conclusion : It might be the best to not recycle electronic waste since landfill are well reglemented : they colect all the fluid, it's not exported far away, and does not cause harm to the people in china who are sorting the wastes.

What's insane is how much of that has quality usable materials still, as someone how has recently tried fixing some of the electronics that "break" in my house, its incredible how easy it sometimes is.....rip Earth.

I genuinely thought that the guy in the beginning was fixing to say "and they could have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for those kids and their dog!" lolol

Do you have any examples of proper recycling at scale?

@breadman32398

4 жыл бұрын

I believe paper and cardboard recycling is pretty efficient. Most new stuff is made of ~40% recycled material. And 70% of cardboard used makes it back for recycling. Mostly because companies have systems to ensure most of what they use gets recycled. Consumers dont care nearly as much about where they throw things.

@Jonedcc

4 жыл бұрын

@@breadman32398 my question was aimed at ewaste recycling at scale. This "conspiracy" group seems to focus on shady recyclers, which makes it seem like there's a better alternative. However the one example they provided was a small scale company that only processes a the beginning stages, not the complete lifecycle. Ewaste is a serious problem, but so are "whistle blower" groups at solving the core recycling issue.

@breadman32398

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jonedcc ah, true. I imagine fully recycling waste start to finish is next to impossible considering all the different components, materials, and types.

@TrashDolphin

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jonedcc designing products with repair in mind would be a great first step.

@jonathantan2469

2 жыл бұрын

Steel and iron, copper, aluminium, and glass. Also, asphalt... used to pave roads, sidewalks, runways, and lots... ironically made from crude oil (and crushed rocks).

2:38 "So it still looks like a normal... Piece of electronic." So confident.... Yeah a green board loosely shoved next to a blue board. I Feel like he really worked hard for those rubber gloves.

Thanks verge science for this topic

If electronics / computers were easy to fix and/or upgrade, I think we would see less waste. And if LCD manufacturers did not use mercury in the CCFL tubes back in the day we wouldn’t have mercury to deal with in the first place. In Silicon Valley all the major semiconductor companies that had manufacturing activities left behind a big toxic waste, hence the absurd number of superfund sites here. All the people who knew and who’s made tons of money should be sued by the cities, counties, states, and the federal government. Not the companies but the people who ran them. And the community service hours, hopefully in the tens of thousands of hours, should be spent decontaminating soil, water, air, and recycling all the poisonous e-waste they have generated.

Someone's waste can be someone's treasure 🤓

Feels like im sitting in this guy's Adams apple.

@sid-ahmedaris6690

4 жыл бұрын

I just found the relatable comment I was looking for !

I haven't read the Basel Legislation but I really hope that one of the things that gets more attention moving forward is how waste is exported. To be honest, I think the ideal situation is to ban the export of waste, and let countries handle it by themselves. This incentivizes nations to look after how much waste they produce and introduce further legislation on how to produce more efficiently. But that is the ideal goal-when you think about the nuances especially in countries where primary mining and refinement of raw materials and production of goods takes place and which outputs a lot more hazardous waste than countries who does not do manufacturing and imports many of the goods people consume.

Crazy to think that so many people just throw away their electronics. I still have nearly every single electronic device I’ve had since I was little

this is so interesting!!

Per my knowledge GPS is sending the location only one way - to the device. It's not receiving information from the device. For example if you have a cell phone - the phone will determine its GPS coordinates but it will need Internet connection in order to send them to someone (or server etc). How do those devices transmit the GPS location back to the system? My apologies if this question was already answered! Thank you!

@mightbesherwood1313

4 жыл бұрын

Car trackers, used to recover repossessed vehicles, transit their location over 2G cellular. They might be using that, though that means they can't watch it cross oceans - just when it arrives.

This is sad. It seems as if there are enough valuable materials in a computer - metals, for example; some plastics; wiring - that could be recycled for use here in the United States.

Really digging these videos

How do you know I'm watching this on an electronic device? Are you spying on me?!?

This dude really just said recycling irresponsibly is a form of murder...

@ElixirEcho

4 жыл бұрын

Threw a straw out the window and got life in prison.

@audreyh6628

4 жыл бұрын

And? If you knowingly cause death to others through your own laziness/selfishness, where does the responsibility lie?

@Secondary_Identifier

4 жыл бұрын

I know right?! Now I'm just a humble industrial chemical industry executive, but I'm tired of these dang hippies calling ME a murderer for shipping all this waste cyanide to South East Asian work orphanages where it can be responsibly handled by under-educated and ill-equiped 11 year olds! I'm doing that country a service! Sending valuable jobs, materials, to their country, and drastically reducing the orphan population! I'm the good guy here!

Thank you for raising the issue! We as the summers need to wake up!

A great documentry is Manufactured Landscapes. The doc is a little slow moving, but one part of the doc shows mountains of ewaste in China.

Biggest surprise going out of this video: 6.5 + 2.5 = 8

@markdombrovan8849

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, gotta like a lawyer who can't count

@OrangeFluffyCat

4 жыл бұрын

That math would be if there is only one owner. He said doing it right would cost about 2.5mil (total I’m assuming, not 2.5mil per owner) and each owner made a little less than 8mil. How many owners were there? Lets say 2. If each owner, making less than 8 mil (lets say 7.8mil) gives up 1.3mil, they each make 6.5mil and have 2.6mil to spend on actually recycling things properly.

@321tryagain

4 жыл бұрын

(8 + 8 - 2.5)/2 = 6.75

@syndicalistspeedsolver

4 жыл бұрын

Felt that on a deep level

@OrangeFluffyCat

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Dombrovan he knows how to count, y’all don’t know how to listen 😂

This is a verry interesting topic to me. I want to get involved locally and do more for my community and it's e-waste removal.

An even deeper core problem is that there is no incentive for making items that will last long. In fact, if you can sell something that will need to be replaced you will make more money. So that's what happens. We need to restructure our system to value longevity, repairability as well as ease of recycling.

Rip me I often end up breaking the LCD light bars on accident every so often while recycling. I try my best not to and often am in the outdoors but I really should wear a mask and have a fume hood. But what gets me is they put it on the board right, not on the screen part which contains the harmful mercury in florecent tubes like you have in the kitchen. Is the battery acid and stuff safe? Probably not but those are much harder to break than those tubes

Maybe look into Apple iPhone recycling robot they pitched some years ago.

Right now you're watching this on an electronic device... they know...

@darealkidkyg2789

4 жыл бұрын

D G lmaooo

@imnonene

4 жыл бұрын

Right!? How did they know!?

@moth.monster

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, my device is using some ten year old hardware. Repurposing old server hardware to make workstations is great fun.

@92kosta

4 жыл бұрын

No, I am watching this on a flip book.

@thetechfromheaven

4 жыл бұрын

It's a Nokia so it may outlive me 😆

Seeing all this old technology left to rot when a good portion could possibly be fixed relatively easily, makes me sad. There's probably dozens of Trinitrons and other stuff, some of which might actually be functionally but dumped because the owner deemed it useless.

Remember this, next time you buy some stupid gizmo from Amazon

Just retired my note 3, its just a music player now.

I recycle by never getting rid of my old cell phone. I call it my cellphone grave, which is a box I keep probably forever.

@SA2004YG

4 жыл бұрын

And after you're gone? You're just delaying the problem.

@alexsiemers7898

4 жыл бұрын

goodvibration delaying it until eWaste recycling actually happens, when it can be properly dismantled.

@drjwilber

4 жыл бұрын

@@SA2004YG the inheritors - maybe give it to museum

@TheDuckPox

4 жыл бұрын

I would say, yes, I would keep my old cellphones and probably other small things that can be used several times. But what about lamp bulbs, non rechargeable batteries or what about old mice and keyboards which will just make your house dirty, unhealthy, and less spacious?

@mariachristina97

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheDuckPox Check out Terracycle! Their boxes can be a little pricey tbh but they can recycle pretty much anything. If you can't afford them, it might be worth it if you split the cost with some friends and family so they can recycle their stuff too. A bunch of sustainably minded stores have some of their recycling boxes available to the public.

The Verge is seriously stepping up the quality of their video reporting with these feature stories. These issues matter so thank you and keep it up!

There is not enough mercury in an LCD backlight lamp to do anything. Even still that mercury is not in vapor form because it is not energized. mercury is only dangerous in vapor form unless you intentionally ingest it in liquid form. Modern TV sets and monitors use LED backlighting and lead free solder so the danger risk is lowered however many many repair shops in the US do not use lead free solder while repairing devices because lead free solder has a high failure rate and is difficult to work with. Also you have some recyclers that shred electronics and other recyclable materials so they can compact as much as possible into a shipment

@AlexZander688

4 жыл бұрын

Lead-free solder sucks!

Amazing video !

@virajmalik1320

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Adians I did

I keep all my electronics or trade it in so it can be resold. If it's dead and absolutely unusable, I'll just keep it lol. Just keep the box and have it sit in my garage, like old printers and all my past PCs are still with me. I sell my monitors that are too pricey to fix to local swapmeets so they can resell themselves.

@davidwillard7334

2 жыл бұрын

So What's your End ! To This !! ??

7:38 looking at all that tech makes me think of heaven.

lmao did anyone else catch that printer startup noise at 0:12

I hate when people talk like the narrator. It sounds like they just got done talking for 24 hours straight then decided it was a good idea to voice record.

Instead of 8 they would have made 5.5 million each*

Manufacturers should be held responsible for the entire life cycle of a product & not just until they're sold. If they can invest in manufacturing facilities with expensive robots just to be early to market & being more efficient, they can also acknowledge end of life of their product & provide dismantling facilities where they're able to return a product to it's raw materials & reuse them. I guess you could say it can be a closed loop system where much like Apple you're locked in a company's ecosystem so that could be a plus for the businesses. You buy from the company, you use it, then send it back to them.

nice to see the expert installs the tracker next to a nice large metal shield, that's definitely going to help signal strength.

@goodun2974

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the metal "shield" becomes a large antenna for the tracking device!

@ComfortElectrics

4 жыл бұрын

@@goodun2974 That tracker most likely uses GPS or/and cellular bands. The frequencies used by these services do not play ball well with large sheets of metal used as antennas, not to mention you can see the device is wrapped in plastic and self contained, no external wires.

Wow! Great job Verge and BAN. I always worried the electronics recycling wasn't what I assumed it was

No the Free Market does not fix everything. Left unchecked greed will never do the right thing.

@92Frederik

4 жыл бұрын

You do realise this has nothing to do with the Free Market argument? A state-owned recycling company wouldn't necessarily be better. The institutions' oversight has to be improved to enforce existing regulation better and internationally existing standards have to be ratified and implemented. The Free Market argument does not mean that everything is perfect if you just leave it alone, it refers to price mechanisms, government meddling in an economy and economic efficiency. It still requires a regulatory framework and institutions around it to function properly

@phiksit

3 жыл бұрын

The concept of a "free market" is such a joke... considering all the subsidies and tax breaks they get... and why is a CEO worth millions in salary?

Here in Japan there is a fee built into the price of each monitor sold, and that fee is for the eventual/expected end-of-life recycling. However, that also means that it is difficult to get 2nd hand shops and recyclers to take old monitors as they have to pay the fee if proof of payment (original purchaser) cannot be found. At least I think that is how it works. I may be mistaken.

This is extremely frustrating to watch as someone who is almost fanatical about recycling. What I think should also be a takeaway of this video is that we as consumers can be way more efficient as well. Avoid getting that new product until your old one is actually broken. If you double its lifetime you can roughly say that you cut the waste you generated in half. Increase its lifespan just 5 or 10% longer than what you initially planned, and everyone followed suit, then that would already mean thousands of tons of waste saved.

There is enough on earth for everyone’s need but not for everyone’s greed, like Gandhi once said

@ramade9040

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Henry who the fuck believe Gandhi anymore

0:13 In a box tucked away in my closet, most likely. Or handi-down-ed to a friend.

Great work guys, thanks!

Make sure the power supplies don't come into contact with the sides of the cases

These shown us how the hypocrisies in western countries appeared in many ways

@92Frederik

4 жыл бұрын

So the USA are all "western countries"? I'll just assume you were absent when geography was taught at your school

yeah this video is misleading at best and slanderous at worst. Most large companies are already recycling responsibly and a ton of money is spent to make sure stuff like this doesnt happen. Maybe 20 years ago, at the dawn of EWR this was more accurate.

I foresee one of two outcomes with e waste in our near future: 1. The majority of all countries involved in any capacity will realize we have a common problem and will require all of our enforcement. 2. One of the leading world countries will decide to go old school and take matters into their own hands, vigilante style. Personally, I much prefer option 1.

@mightbesherwood1313

4 жыл бұрын

2a. One country bans imports, like China did for low grade materials.

That shot at 0:34 is quite disheartening. As a collector of old electronics all those computer monitors on that pile would be really neat to have but instead there just going to waste.

I think this 'old news' subject was already covered years ago in the hit documentary series "Futurama" 🤔

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@carholic-sz3qv

4 жыл бұрын

I hope for you too

@nelsonth

4 жыл бұрын

Not really likely after watching this video, is it?

@kakeergodt4609

4 жыл бұрын

Be gone bot

@randomguy-ys1mu

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@businessmail4929

4 жыл бұрын

Liar

28 months in prison for e-waste fraud sounds a bit excessive. What about if the USA tried something more rehabilitative?

@BertGrink

4 жыл бұрын

USA doesn't believe in rehabilitating law-breakers

Maybe we should just make electronics that don't fall apart in two years instead.

@ColinTherac117

4 жыл бұрын

It is not so much about falling apart as it is the extreme rate of improvement over time. As per Moore's Law, the number of transistors in a given useful microchip as been doubling every two years or so since the 1970's. And programmers like me come up with new ways to use those new resources. And if your device is connected to a network of more advanced devices that run more intensive processes assuming the greater resources of more modern machines, then your older one will struggle as they don't have the more dense and efficient/effective resources.