The Dark Night of the Soul

Friends, what is the “dark night of the soul”? How does it differ from general depression, sadness, or confusion? That's what Brandon Vogt and I explore in this new episode of “The Word on Fire Show.” We unpack this spiritual concept from St. John of the Cross, and discuss a famous saint from recent times who experienced this “dark night” in a profound way.
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  • @Peaceshiet812
    @Peaceshiet8123 жыл бұрын

    I’m getting so much from your videos, I’m having a bit of a Dark Night of the soul myself at the moment , first week clean from a 17 year pill addiction, all my usual comforts , even food and sleep are absent. The only relief for me right now is staying as close as possible to my Heavenly Father.

  • @desiderata333

    @desiderata333

    3 жыл бұрын

    God bless you Rachel. You can do this in the Holy name of Jesus Christ. 🙏🏽

  • @Peaceshiet812

    @Peaceshiet812

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou Guys so much , it means a lot , a month in now, still very difficult, but God is in control, & there’s no going back xx

  • @DanielKimita

    @DanielKimita

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hold on daughter, your Heavenly Father loves you and is proud to see you overcome, he will give you the graces to.

  • @Lucretia019

    @Lucretia019

    3 жыл бұрын

    Godspeed you Rachel! Definitely not an easy battle you are fighting, stay strong and I'll pray (altough I'm not got at it yet) for you so God can give you that strength. I'm also fighting a couple of dark and ugly addictions on my own, with the help of a friend and mostly important God's blessing I hope I can keep being strong and continue trying to live a better life and growing as a person.

  • @hgk9903

    @hgk9903

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's two months now - hopefully, your road has gotten easier 🙏 Happy Fourth of July Sunday 💕

  • @schmitzkaylee
    @schmitzkaylee7 ай бұрын

    “You’re not meant to fall in love with the consolation but with God” Bishop Barron

  • @DannyWohl
    @DannyWohl3 жыл бұрын

    "If a man wishes to be sure of the road he treads on, he must close his eyes and walk in the dark" ~St. John of la Cross

  • @idaclement2994
    @idaclement29948 ай бұрын

    I've once experienced 'the dark night of the soul' when on a 3 day Silent Retreat run by the Missionaries of the Sacred Heart . I did a lot of reading on St John of the cross and found some parts very difficult to truly understand. During my prayers I asked our Lord that I might understand the loneliness and despair experienced by John of the Cross in The Dark night of the Soul. The next day after spiritual direction from my priest I decided to meditate on a task that I was given. Once in a deep meditative state I felt God's presence in the world abruptly Leave... I started to cry as if totally alone.. in a world where there was no love, God’s Love. God's presence was nowhere to be felt. My Soul was in a vacuum of nothingness and I wept & wept. I called out to God to come back but there was nothing. I felt vulnerable and I started to despair. This lasted about 10 minutes until I could bear it no more.... Then as quickly as God's presence left me God's presence returned like the warmth of the sun on a winter's day. When I came out of my meditative state my face was awash with tears but my heart was leaping with joy. I felt safe again in God's return, in God’s Love. I now truly understand when it is said that God loves us.. I now no longer take God's Love for granted because I know what it's like when it's not there.

  • @RC-fi4ix

    @RC-fi4ix

    Ай бұрын

    I wish more people, especially those w/o faith, could feel this for a few moments..

  • @irenegewinner8193
    @irenegewinner8193 Жыл бұрын

    My encounter with God involved light that enveloped me and His voice saying, “You are Mine.” That was 59 years ago when I was 15.

  • @annem2922

    @annem2922

    Жыл бұрын

    🥹💟💟💟 what a Great God we have!

  • @barbarathomas9047

    @barbarathomas9047

    Ай бұрын

    Same here but he audibly said to me “Go to Church and Learn all you can about me.” I immediately went to Church and have not stopped learning. It’s embedded in my soul.

  • @marypinakat8594
    @marypinakat85943 жыл бұрын

    "In prayer we must not look for the *consolations of God,* but the *God of consolations."* ST. FRANCIS DE SALES

  • @paulom1315

    @paulom1315

    3 жыл бұрын

    So mary you support the LGBTQ community in the church and are you against The full history of the Catholic Church pre vatican II? I ask you to research barrons financial gifts to extreme socialist liberal anti life groups.. how is my soul in danger for opening eyes 👀

  • @marypinakat8594

    @marypinakat8594

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paulom1315 Indeed, I pray that your soul in no way be in danger of any sort. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again." ALEXANDER POPE

  • @petertrausch3245

    @petertrausch3245

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paulom1315 where can I find his financial gift info? Thx

  • @gracelim2336

    @gracelim2336

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marypinakat8594 Better to ASK Holy Mary to pray for me. Are u Holy?

  • @marypinakat8594

    @marypinakat8594

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gracelim2336 What exactly do you intend? Be direct.

  • @wreloise1
    @wreloise13 жыл бұрын

    “If my petition is not compatible with God’s Holy Will, and what I ask for should not be granted; please pray that I may receive that which will be the greater benefit to my soul..” 🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾

  • @cecemeyers5998

    @cecemeyers5998

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh such grace you have in knowing and being able to express that! Very Petrine!

  • @walteraymerich176

    @walteraymerich176

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen.

  • @edgaf1972

    @edgaf1972

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@walteraymerich176 I'm m

  • @sh0eh0rn4

    @sh0eh0rn4

    Жыл бұрын

    I needed this. thank you.

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W13 жыл бұрын

    “My only wish is to be forgotten But even that is wishing too much.” St. Therese

  • @ellan0r
    @ellan0r3 жыл бұрын

    I really relish watching your videos Bishop Barron. I am in a way a Catholic that has become somewhat more Protestant but your insights are drawing me back to Catholicism.

  • @BNM124

    @BNM124

    3 жыл бұрын

    Praise the Lord🙏🙏...please do not leave the Eucharist for anybody

  • @katrinacooper8907

    @katrinacooper8907

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love how you Bishop Barron described the closing of the eyes during prayer and contemplation... a good new key I have not always used in going deeper with my Lord . Thanks and gratitude !! Katrina

  • @gracelim2336

    @gracelim2336

    2 жыл бұрын

    ProtestChristians were borned about 500 years ago They rebelled against the RCC= Roman Catholic Church of Jesus Christ similar to Lucifer and his gang of devils rebelled against God's Kingdom in Heaven. RCC is Jesus' Kingdòm on earth. Close your eyes and Pray the OUR FATHER

  • @shoshishoshi127

    @shoshishoshi127

    6 ай бұрын

    I've had that experience before too but came back to being a much more devout Catholic. I found that Catholic theology is really much MUCH richer than any other Christian denominations'. It's not a surprise when you realize how long this Church has survived and fought varieties of heresies. I really suggest you read or watch St. Thomas Aquinas' and then St. Augustine and so on. So many Catholic saints out there have produced so many intellectual masterpieces that have sealed my faith in Catholicism.

  • @ItsMeChello
    @ItsMeChello3 жыл бұрын

    i went to depression. it may not be the dark night of the soul as fr. barron said but it was where i met god again after grieving so much that ive been far away from him for too long. now im beyond that experience and glad god pulled me out in that state and experiencing now his mercy. day by day im praying to find joy and share the love that god has ignited and confirmed during my depressive episodes which i realized its all abt him.

  • @RenaeFredre

    @RenaeFredre

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too ✋

  • @christinastateham3048
    @christinastateham3048 Жыл бұрын

    I recently found St.John of the cross and fell in love with his poetry. I think often of his suffering and solitude, and how those negative things were transformed into joy through relationship with Jesus. I have a chronic illness that gives me suffering and solitude and helplessness. But those things have propelled me to God, the relationship only deepened by my suffering. And St. John reassures me that if I have absolutely nothing left, I will always have the joy of my relationship with the Lord. Thank you for all your discussions of the Saints; they always interest me and inspire me

  • @randolphguerrero1960

    @randolphguerrero1960

    Жыл бұрын

    I keep you in prayer. 🙏

  • @lynnbrowne1641

    @lynnbrowne1641

    3 ай бұрын

    2-5-24 What a gift you have

  • @agnessohn8723
    @agnessohn87233 жыл бұрын

    I am a novitiate of the Carmelite third order. I am so pleased by Bishop Barron’s comments on St. John of the Cross’ “dark night of the soul” which I am struggling to grasp its significance and reform my life through it.

  • @monikasolymos2396
    @monikasolymos2396 Жыл бұрын

    The Hollies:The air that I breath, for me a good reminder

  • @cecemeyers5998
    @cecemeyers59983 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Jordan Peterson’s you tube video popped up in my you tube “feed” while I was watching the Father Robert Barron short videos! If it wasn’t for Fr, Barron I wouldn’t have discovered Dr Peterson. It was also what I consider my favorite presentation of his while in the lecture hall presenting to his students on the BENEFITS OF MARRIAGE’! The best perspective ever. Truly honest and from a psycho-social health and economic perspective.

  • @rosemcnamara5848
    @rosemcnamara58483 жыл бұрын

    How many of us think we’re going through The Dark Night of the Soul when we’re actually separated from God because of mortal sin on our souls which we may have forgotten about or are not aware of? It’s the same with suffering. Most of us who suffer see ourselves as Job. But Job was a righteous man. Are we truly righteous and suffering as a means of high moral testing? Or is our suffering a form of chastisement as a means of bringing our actions back into line with God’s will?

  • @jessenewman6738

    @jessenewman6738

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some yes and sometimes suffering is just for our refinement so we can have a deeper intimacy with Jesus and be a more useful vessel for him. In both evangelical work or discipleship of new believers. We all are caked into the fellowship of the lords sufferings as Paul spoke of in Philippians

  • @rsmyth75

    @rsmyth75

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your so wrong! I can tell you never read the book!

  • @tnt655
    @tnt6552 жыл бұрын

    Working on getting baptized in the Church! Going through the process because my wife and I have both been married before. So it’s not a fast journey. Bishop Barron is one of the reasons I want to become Catholic! Bishop Barron a second to none! I have absolutely fallen in love with the Catholic Faith! Wish I would’ve discovered a couple of decades ago, but such is life! Had to go through everything I’ve been through to get to where I’m at! God bless you Bishop Barron!

  • @pattip2788

    @pattip2788

    2 жыл бұрын

    God bless you! I was an RCIA director and I know the journey can long in terms of resolving marriage issues. But it’s worth it! So nice to read you love the Catholic faith… it made my morning! You’re in my prayers. ✝️

  • @JoannLenz

    @JoannLenz

    3 ай бұрын

    There is a time for everything and this is your time. We all look back and say I wish I knew. Celebrate the now. God be with you both. I will pray for you both. Many blessings to you both always.💖🙏🏻

  • @marytygett4189
    @marytygett41893 жыл бұрын

    Living with too much light . Finally I understand why I’m so decentralized and overwhelmed. In love with God’s will . Jesus please continue to help me navigate this state in which I’ve been in .

  • @RC-fi4ix

    @RC-fi4ix

    Ай бұрын

    That was profound for me also!

  • @asterstarr6943
    @asterstarr6943 Жыл бұрын

    I love that the Divine masculine and feminine are always working together for our most high good

  • @elviscontoon7482
    @elviscontoon74822 жыл бұрын

    In the 1970s the Holy Spirit visited me, unbidden, as I was drawing to a close my reading of the Bible, from beginning to end. I was reading John's gospel. I was suddenly overwhelmed with the love of/for God. I was led to read St John of the Cross. I was immediately elated: this man was so much in love with God. I fully empathised.

  • @idicula1979
    @idicula19793 жыл бұрын

    It is in the dark night of the souls a man in honesty blossoms.

  • @gazoo3632
    @gazoo36323 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to thank you for your Rosary video's, I've always wanted to say the Rosary daily but I always found that I had forgotten to do it. Now as part of my routine, when I go to bed I load up that days rosary, pop on my wireless earphones and pray the Rosary with you before I fall asleep. Thank you so much for this, it's really a blessing.

  • @RC-fi4ix

    @RC-fi4ix

    Ай бұрын

    It is fir me also! And for some reason, I can't remember all of or the order of the Luminous Mysteries, so Bishop Barron helps me out. My spiritual director also gave me some wisdom to get my daily Rosary in and get better disciplined. First thing on wakeup say my Rosary. I like to read Holy books during that time too. Many times, I can spare that hour, other times, it's quick and guided.❤

  • @eileengonzalez9082
    @eileengonzalez90823 жыл бұрын

    The poem is about the journey of the soul to mystical union with God.

  • @constancekearns4358

    @constancekearns4358

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ñ

  • @mariesinnecker4450

    @mariesinnecker4450

    2 жыл бұрын

    You didn' pay attention yo My diffultly typed quote on Juan:s verses on Science and Faith: Shame ! Love's Labour Lost ( Mine)

  • @RC-fi4ix

    @RC-fi4ix

    Ай бұрын

    It's beautiful & powerful!

  • @jessicaangeles1122
    @jessicaangeles1122Ай бұрын

    Thank you, Lord for Bishop Barron for this spiritually enlightening & enriching discussion of St John of the Cross's "Dark Night of the Soul." This discussion truly captivates the heart & soul.

  • @adriadua5019
    @adriadua5019 Жыл бұрын

    Word on Fire is a gift from above for all 🌍 🌎 🌏 Thank you Lord for the wisdom and discernment you gifted to all Bishop Barron mentors and the people who work right now and in the future in this ministry.

  • @thomaswillman4187
    @thomaswillman4187 Жыл бұрын

    It is definitely way different that depression. It is a good road to travel when you get to the end. But until you do it is so scary and rendering.

  • @terryasmus3925
    @terryasmus39253 жыл бұрын

    Bishop Barron & Brandon are the best.

  • @jeffreywalker5300

    @jeffreywalker5300

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Terry

  • @majorfrank1167
    @majorfrank11673 жыл бұрын

    As I listen to your talk I think back some 61 years ago when I was in Vietnam a Special Forces Soldier and I was in several fire fights where I was wounded but many of my buddies were KIA. We were all in our young 20's, so now I have daily if not hourly thoughts of my team mates who were killed and along with praying for them I can't get my head around what their judgement was and that really places me in a dark place.

  • @karenglenn2329

    @karenglenn2329

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wil pray for you. With God it is the eternal presence. We do not know enough of God's providing grace. Your friends perhaps in those last moments surrendered to the Face of Jesus. Thank you for your service. Forgive me if l am insensitive. I am 76 years old and remember those times . Yes ...l will pray for you.

  • @kellyarcher9507

    @kellyarcher9507

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re so brave!❤️

  • @russells.soehnerii8308

    @russells.soehnerii8308

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bessel VanDer Kolk’s ‘The Body Keeps the Score’ helps me.

  • @silentedict4256

    @silentedict4256

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you think, perhaps, they remember you and are praying for you now? I'm a veteran myself, Iraq, and far younger. However, I had a distinct experience some years after getting out. It was right before a rather intense period in my life, but I got the sense I was visited by a buddy who was killed over there. It was morning and I was right in the realm between asleep and awake, but I distinctly remember hearing a somewhat cheerful and disembodied, "looks like you'll have an interesting life!" in his voice. It's unique as that it's never happened before, and never happened since. Sometimes those fleeting bonds we share are far more important than we expect.

  • @kathyakel

    @kathyakel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dear Major Frank, my brother was killed in Vietnam in 1968. He was 19 years old. I have no doubt he prays for his surviving twin and all of us. Our parents are with him now in great happiness and I look forward to being with them again.

  • @Jimwaugh8
    @Jimwaugh8Ай бұрын

    This is one of the most wonderful videos on KZread. Inspiring.

  • @chadwickpainter8212
    @chadwickpainter82126 ай бұрын

    Man, Ive been going down a spiritually rough road with a lot if things but I keep praying and going to confession, mass and many other things trying to knuckle down and graft hard while I hold fast. I laugh a lot, mostly at myself and in a good way. I have long wondered if God has a sense of humor. I always hoped he does so its nice to hear. Thank you Bishop Barron and everyone else involved in this video. The trenches of spiritual warfare have been kinda rough and things were getting kinda low, this just helped boost my morale. God bless y'all.

  • @masterjose8483

    @masterjose8483

    6 ай бұрын

    How are you doing now

  • @leeabe3932
    @leeabe39323 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad this episode brings up Mother Theresa and her depression in her final days, as people bring this up as if that was in some way a mark of failure of all that she was about and did for others. Her dark night of the soul was a way for her to reach into a greater realization of Christ's light and love especially as she entered into His rest. Wish more was said about that as well as Jordan Petersen's own dark night of the soul.

  • @angelahull9064

    @angelahull9064

    2 жыл бұрын

    I get what you are saying, but Jordan Peteson is certainly going through a painful metanoia experience, but I don't think he has yet begun the path of Christian perfection, so I don't think we can accurately apply the dark night description to his particular experience.

  • @maiar1025
    @maiar10253 жыл бұрын

    I always love how Bishop Baron brings deep theological concepts to us in terms everyone can understand. Praise God. In my life, this video comes with perfect timing. We just finished discussing St. John of the Cross, St. Theresa of Avila and the threefold steps to the spiritual life in my Applied Catholic Spirituality class at Catholic Distance University. This video was just a cherry on top of my seminary studies.

  • @millier9658

    @millier9658

    3 жыл бұрын

    Isn’t He just awesome?

  • @user-dx5bn4yk4f
    @user-dx5bn4yk4f2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this Bishop Barron and the word on fire theme. A year ago during the onslaught of the pandemic, I felt a disconnect from my religion and from God. I do not know if it was the dark night of the soul, but I felt empty, not depressed. I know the feeling of being depressed, that one was an existential dread. I questioned God, I questioned eternal life and I forgot or had a little amnesia of Christ. It was a dumbfounding experience, but once I asked my mother and my friends about it,I felt enlightened. Especially during mass during those times, it was a verse that told me that all my questions are answered in time. I sincerely felt a renewal, and I still often get disappointed with myself with sinning and being in disconnect with our Lord, but I am confident in His mercy and the gift of reconciliation. Ave Maria, Viva Christus Rex!

  • @mikethearchangel11
    @mikethearchangel112 жыл бұрын

    Incredible, the wonders of the Lord. I am going through what may be considered a Dark Night of the Soul right now. Though not a spiritual crisis, As the Bishop said it is a moment in which someone I deeply care about, though not inherently sinful, has faded for the moment and the Lord has become the center of attention. When I clicked on this video I had no idea what a Dark Night was, but now know the reason for my pain. After my God-given Eureka moment, I smiled from ear to ear. I have become aware of the problem of my relationship, and how I can change to become closer to God. Thank you Bishop, and thank you Lord. Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @kjosemaria9373
    @kjosemaria9373 Жыл бұрын

    God doesn't want you to fall in love with his consolations. He wants you to fall in love with his will. - Bishop Robert Barron. Wow.

  • @lauralopezsaez7246
    @lauralopezsaez72463 жыл бұрын

    If you speak Spanish I highly recommend an album on Saint John of the Cross' poems from Jesed "Silencio de Amor" ...you can find it here in KZread...Abundant Blessings

  • @doloresgrandes2536

    @doloresgrandes2536

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jesed, the best.

  • @evelynflordelis3614
    @evelynflordelis36143 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Thank you, Bishop. Your explanation is awesome. I am a Carmelite Secular.

  • @luisdeanda2464
    @luisdeanda24643 жыл бұрын

    Excelente, excelente. Una sencilla y comprensible explicación de la Noche Oscura. Gracias

  • @guiomarparrella5169
    @guiomarparrella51692 жыл бұрын

    Praying the Rosary with you Bishop Barron it is a true gift of our Blessed Mother and Her Son to us that is being delivered so very beautifully and inspiring through you. God bless you.🙏

  • @francesparaprincipiantes3528
    @francesparaprincipiantes35283 жыл бұрын

    Muchas gracias por esta charla, Bishop Robert Barron, desde la tierra de San Juan de la Cruz Necesitamos los cristianos conocer mejor este camino de la noche oscura. Un saludo desde Barcelona, España.

  • @mehulmac23
    @mehulmac233 жыл бұрын

    Always proud of you Bishop Barron. You got it! We love you!

  • @carmenhartono3410
    @carmenhartono3410 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Bishop Barron. This was wonderful! Spanish is my native language. And my husband and I are celebrating 50 years of marriage. Need I say more? 😊

  • @rsmyth75
    @rsmyth752 жыл бұрын

    As a young man I was troubled and saw this book with this title in the discount paperback book for 25 cents! But I was soon shocked to find out that he was not talking about our sad state!!! What he is saying is that after we come to God!!!!! And our comfort drys up and now we feel abandoned! Mother Theresa experienced this!!! And it lasted most of her life!!!

  • @sshannon1948
    @sshannon19483 жыл бұрын

    My dark night of the soul lasted years and involved an ending of life as I knew it....the problem comes about when one who is going through it is speaking with someone who has no idea but wants to portray himself as an expert....

  • @mariemunzar6474

    @mariemunzar6474

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear. It's best to be careful who you confide in and who you ask for advice from. It's not that people aren't trustworthy but that very few people actually understand what you are going through or know how to help you. Especially if they haven't gone through the same thing.

  • @ritabiro5105
    @ritabiro51053 жыл бұрын

    Dear Bishop Barron it is great to hear your lecture .When comes after my pray the darkness when l cant see the stars l feel suffering not only the worlds uptudate problems and Jezus crucifixcion l wait for sunrise and a new day and hope for the be st and god forgiveness and help.

  • @RC-fi4ix
    @RC-fi4ixАй бұрын

    This talk was profound. Thank you.

  • @joselitoayo7391
    @joselitoayo73913 жыл бұрын

    The topic discussion was just so amazing! I have just learned a lot of new things and I even got to finish half of my easter reflection that I will be presenting within our religious community here in Rome this Black Saturday! What's crazy about it was that I found myself sribbling a lot of notes, basically connecting these ideas to Marks' account on Jesus' Resurrection (the Gospel reading this Easter vigil celebration), without having finished the video yet! I just couldn't help myself and was afraid to lose the surge of ideas that came along while watching the video. Million thanks to you brandon and most especially to Bishop Barron for all the enlightening words and reflections! God's blessings to all those who have watched the video too!😊🙏❤

  • @richardventresca9300
    @richardventresca93003 жыл бұрын

    Wow, is there any way to say it better than Bishop Barron has? I am so grateful fo the insights he provides and the comfort he gives.

  • @dianedoehling9275

    @dianedoehling9275

    3 жыл бұрын

    7sweet memories

  • @karys2005
    @karys20053 жыл бұрын

    From Lithuania With Love !!! One Love !!!

  • @JesusIsLove2512
    @JesusIsLove25123 жыл бұрын

    Praise the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏 Mother Mary Pray For Us 🙏Abba Father Bless us and we Adore You 🙏Holy Spirit Guide us and direct our paths 🙏

  • @MariaPullatt
    @MariaPullatt3 жыл бұрын

    I was just reading in the same from St Faustina's Diary and was like "Same girl! Same!" Tall about TIMING!!!!

  • @doloresgrandes2536

    @doloresgrandes2536

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love Saint Faustina.

  • @marypinakat8594
    @marypinakat85943 жыл бұрын

    This has been 'more than illuminating'. Useful knowledge for those who might be serious about growth in spiritual life. *Sincere thanks Bishop Barron☆*

  • @MonteCristo2009
    @MonteCristo20093 жыл бұрын

    Hi Bishop Barron. I love your talks. You are a GREAT speaker. I could listen to your talks for hours and hours without feeling tired or bored ! Keep it up.

  • @danijelakelava6602
    @danijelakelava66022 жыл бұрын

    I Love to pray rosary.

  • @andybc4511
    @andybc45112 жыл бұрын

    Very inspiring especially on St. John of the Cross' Dark Night of the Soul.

  • @bdup159
    @bdup1593 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Faith and Reason together . You need both.

  • @ravenjardcastaneda7750
    @ravenjardcastaneda77503 жыл бұрын

    St Karol Wojtyla’s (John Paul the Great) dissertation on Faith in John of the Cross is a great read! I hope more people, especially laymen, will make time to read it.

  • @michaelsalter3459
    @michaelsalter34593 жыл бұрын

    This will be a good one!

  • @PioLisieux
    @PioLisieux3 жыл бұрын

    but they way Bishop Barron explains things though . . . I've never understood the Dark Night so simply and clearly! Thanks and please more like this video!

  • @clairemcintosh8071
    @clairemcintosh8071 Жыл бұрын

    I love how BB describes closing our eyes, is a way of darkening our senses to the world, to convene with God, never has this occurred to me as I close my eyes to pray, I've just done it unconciously.. But what I love even more is how he describes closing our eyes to the world, the world is good, "we're not being puritanists.. Don't go down that path..." .. He's so right, his words are always absolute truth, and his delivery which is uniquely his own God given gift, is always true, real, authentic and humorous! Talents are nothing unless put to good use, put to God's use and for God's glory, which BB does, he's the only person on the web that can talk for hours without my getting a headache! God bless you Bishop, I pray the world will have you for many years to come 🙏🏻

  • @JohnR.T.B.
    @JohnR.T.B.3 жыл бұрын

    I also thought that the 'dark night of the soul' is something of a period in life where someone is experiencing anguish for the sake of spiritual refinement oriented to God. I don't have much knowledge about saints, or philosophy, theology, and definitely not poetry. It is interesting because there are Christians who fill their senses with music, minds with words, and hence emotions in their search for spiritual encounter with God, and I suppose that is totally different with the spiritual concept of darkening the senses and the mind to connect with God who is beyond the physical world. But without knowing and acknowledging God, deep meditations and inner purge of the senses are quite meaningless, because the goal is then oriented to oneself and not to the ultimate reality of God, the very Being of being. I know that sometimes God will come to us anytime, anyway, in whatever way He chooses; even when we are filled with emotions and not in deep prayers, but again I think the most appropriate way of encountering God is to empty oneself of material desires, and conflicting minds, and to let the Holy Spirit embrace us in deep prayers and meditations.

  • @homiesenatep

    @homiesenatep

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting, I have meditated for 2 years straight and while I did discover "treasures" from it, it was ultimately focused on the self. Those "treasures" from my meditations were I guess, "peeks" from God maybe, I later discovered that good ultimately comes from God, and my meditations were merely a tool to understand God better in the end

  • @JohnR.T.B.

    @JohnR.T.B.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@homiesenatep It's good that you find God through your meditations. Christian meditation is focused not on the self, simply oppressing distractions or temptations, but to communicate with God through Christ and the Holy Spirit.

  • @homiesenatep

    @homiesenatep

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnR.T.B. I am barely learning catholic meditation, all I know is that I just started the rosary. The zen-like meditation I practiced for 2 years was indeed fruitful, but it was practiced in a state of mortal sin, which limited my view to 'see' God and his blessings. I still practice this zen meditation, but now I pray the rosary and went to confession

  • @angelahull9064

    @angelahull9064

    2 жыл бұрын

    the dark night concept certainly has been adopted by the less science-oriented branches of psychology and new age spirituality, but phenomenon that St. John of the Cross describes is very different.

  • @PhilosophicalGospelPodcast

    @PhilosophicalGospelPodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    Incredibly well said, even though you mention not having much knowledge of philosophical nor theological tradition, you hit the mark with this analysis - I think. :)

  • @ritabiro5105
    @ritabiro5105 Жыл бұрын

    It could bee lovely feeling the union together with god and a person devoting also to mee

  • @sstritmatter2158
    @sstritmatter21583 жыл бұрын

    Always something deep coming here. It's like lake trout fishing, deep and very mysterious fish that are wonderful to catch - and healthy, too.

  • @stanleyezeogu9816
    @stanleyezeogu98163 жыл бұрын

    "Reformers are not super-popular with those they are trying to reform." No truer words!

  • @Ian-nb9iw
    @Ian-nb9iw3 жыл бұрын

    St Edith Stein = underrated. Still waiting on the reprint of Finite and Eternal Being~

  • @lukebrasting5108

    @lukebrasting5108

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, but sadly she was overshadowed by her classmate Heidegger, and the fact that she was a female didn't exactly help either.

  • @Ian-nb9iw

    @Ian-nb9iw

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lukebrasting5108 it's a travesty for sure. It's awesome that ICS has been translating her writings to English recently though. It's powerful stuff. It makes me hopeful.

  • @ENERGYENERGY-rj7jl
    @ENERGYENERGY-rj7jl3 жыл бұрын

    Amen! I love the intro to this video! It is so true! I am thankful for the dark night, so I was able to see The Light, literally. I love the Rend Collective song, Lighthouse! Today, if I ever start to need courage, or strength, I sing, and remember The Light shinning in the darkness. I am so thankful to God for Bishop Barron, and the Word on Fire ministry for talking about this topic.

  • @BNM124
    @BNM1243 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation!🙏🙏..Bishop you’re spanish is excellent! Gracias!

  • @mariesinnecker4450

    @mariesinnecker4450

    2 жыл бұрын

    He says Californianas speak Spanish as well as I does ( not true: I Heard him translate Juan fluently, and it's XVI C. Spanish. Probably has kept it from the tome of Don Diego ( a.k.a as " el zorro")

  • @markanthonymuya6258
    @markanthonymuya62583 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Awesome discussion!

  • @JasonPruett
    @JasonPruettАй бұрын

    the analogy at the beginning of the video was perfect. There are songs about it. Unearthly night World you fear Love lies lurking, a wounded dingo-dog Soon to decease I have wandered my whole life long The night becomes my bride and everything else must die World without end For me" "The dark side's coming now, nothing is real She'll never know just how I feel From out of the shadows, she walks like a dream Make me feel crazy, make me feel so mean Ain't nothin' gonna save ya from a love that's blind Slip through the dark side and cross that line" "Listen to the wind blow Down comes the night Run in the shadows Damn your love, damn your lies Break the silence Damn the dark, damn the light"

  • @beekeeper59
    @beekeeper592 жыл бұрын

    Great translation of San Juan de la Cruz "La noche Oscura", God bless You! Dios lo Bendiga

  • @monica33149
    @monica331492 жыл бұрын

    Me encantan las hermosas poesías de San Juan de la Cruz! I visited his tomb in Segovia a month ago and remembered this show while I was there. Thank you for your teachings, Bishop.

  • @TheNancy5000
    @TheNancy50003 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing for this reflection! Thank you Bishop Barron!

  • @phyzix_phyzix
    @phyzix_phyzix Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful explanation. Very similar to Nibbana in Buddhism - that which lies beyond all experience; where nothing arises or passes away.

  • @jackiebehm3007
    @jackiebehm30073 жыл бұрын

    Bishop Barron, please pray for my surgery I had on my toe that it heals properly.

  • @AuDeWu
    @AuDeWu3 жыл бұрын

    Just exactly what I was wondering 🙏🙏

  • @jap2025
    @jap20253 жыл бұрын

    Listening to Fr. Robert Barron has made my spiritual journey beautiful thus deepening my personal relationship with God. I am learning a lot! Thank you!

  • @danielalbani4866
    @danielalbani48663 жыл бұрын

    Great. I went to high school at Loyola School in N. Y. a long time ago. and then came back to Argentina. Even so, I can perfectly understand your English as I learned it over there. Listening to you seems to me as if a fellow student or a teacher was speaking to me. If only you had been my teacher!!! About your brilliant and enthusiastic explanations, I can respectfully tell you how "Apostolic Letter Salvifici Doloris" (Pope John Paul II) helped me a lot. In a catholic school at those times they did not teach us but rather asked us what we thought about issues. That made me really mad and and filled with frustration. Everybody was so concerned about changing the Church to the ways of society... That sounds familiar to me nowadays

  • @AnnElizibethRose1959
    @AnnElizibethRose19593 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Bishop 😊 enhancing the faith, hope and grace! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @IreneTanedo-md9ux
    @IreneTanedo-md9ux11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Bishop for your excellent and profound explanation on "The Dark Night of the Soul".

  • @MMR-BR
    @MMR-BR2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Bishop❣ St. John of the Cross is my favorite saint. I understood your explanation of "the night of the soul" the expression of the soul being in love to the Lover of our soul and the Lover of our soul showing the soul His love. And yes, God has a sense of humor💕

  • @user-mg1fb8jf2h
    @user-mg1fb8jf2h4 ай бұрын

    Goodbless you Bishop

  • @joshuahaydon5312
    @joshuahaydon53122 жыл бұрын

    I am getting ready to try Exodus 90 with a group of guys for the first time. This is exactly the message I needed to hear. Thank you Jesus!

  • @douglastranghese7270
    @douglastranghese72703 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the question at the end, I highly recommend bishop Fulton sheen’s video called “the divine sense of humor.”

  • @jeislovforever7337
    @jeislovforever73373 жыл бұрын

    This gives me something to think about while growing in the spirit direct me God to where you want me ...sometimes I believe God works different ways with everyone.

  • @PInk77W1

    @PInk77W1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @jcbhmd4501
    @jcbhmd45013 жыл бұрын

    According to St. Therese "Only hands that are empty find God is all" When we empty our hands, thats when we can receive God.

  • @josephinemarino389
    @josephinemarino3893 жыл бұрын

    I have to wonder why so much talk lately on dark night of the soul even in the secular world. Noone mentions the dark night of the senses, dark night of the spirit, the need for moral purification, time for desolation, the many trials and tribulations all an important part of spiritual growth before one ever enters into that deep deep dark night of the soul. Why are these stages ignored? I will now listen to this having lived in desert of darkness over 40 years I understand it's beauty ♥ and can be grateful 🙏for my many dark nights.

  • @marie-marie2617

    @marie-marie2617

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's become "hip" in the secular world to experience a Dark Night.

  • @philipjones369
    @philipjones3692 жыл бұрын

    Perfect...thank you, Father, After the joyful mysteries we praise his holy name.

  • @donniekron1819
    @donniekron18193 жыл бұрын

    Well done,

  • @reginaullrich2401
    @reginaullrich24013 жыл бұрын

    Thanks oodles Bishop Barron😊

  • @nuolachrist7338
    @nuolachrist7338 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I appreciate your Rosary series.

  • @gloriavaldez3754
    @gloriavaldez37543 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Bishop Barron for the excellent insight on why God takes away our consolations and worldly attachments -- for a higher form of love. Always enjoy your WOF show with Brandon. May God bless you both.

  • @johnhenrymcmahon6878
    @johnhenrymcmahon68783 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic discussion, guys. And your insights here really resonate with me, Bishop Barron. Thank you :)

  • @robb7855
    @robb78553 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. God bless.

  • @moussaboureima5875
    @moussaboureima58753 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bishop !

  • @lizmiddleton2382
    @lizmiddleton23822 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great inspiration to Life. God Bless you Bishop Barron!!

  • @davy1972
    @davy19723 жыл бұрын

    This brings John Chapter 6 to mind. Quite overwhelming.

  • @thebacons5943
    @thebacons59432 жыл бұрын

    I’m impressed by how effortlessly the Bishop rattled off that response about humor! Pretty much nailed that response, apparently off the cuff.

  • @jackpullen3820
    @jackpullen38203 жыл бұрын

    So good, thanks so much!

  • @OgeneAdoh
    @OgeneAdoh Жыл бұрын

    Very very helpful

  • @Rugbylacroose4life
    @Rugbylacroose4life5 ай бұрын

    God Bless you Bishop, thank you!

  • @duniamaisha7695
    @duniamaisha7695 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you bishop barron