Don't ask"why the suicide?" ask "why the pain?"

@chrismcnee9287

4 жыл бұрын

That is so profound and an excellent point. Thank you

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

4 жыл бұрын

Melanie Clark great point

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard the voice of suicide. It called to me so clear and so convincing one night that I literally ran from the room and ran for my life. My husband and I had both lost a parent. He lost his mother to Lou Garricks 45 days later my father died of a heart attack. I had been physically sick for many months. I was taking an experimental drug that was causing much suffering including depression. OxyContin was introduced and the train left the station. To me the voice of suicide said this “I can’t take it anymore and it’s never going to change” those 2 thoughts repeatedly bombard my mind. Then suddenly the third and final suggestion comes and it says “ take all these pills” or “one quick bang” those three thoughts ran a track in my head until I nearly followed them

@worldisillusion11

4 жыл бұрын

Corporations- the source of all suffering in America today.

@QuietBloom

4 жыл бұрын

Melanie: Talk to me.

I teared up so bad when his voice broke

@mr.antaeus5730

4 жыл бұрын

I wanted to jump through the screen and run up to the stage and hug him tightly

@Nillowo

4 жыл бұрын

Cleen likewise. I came to the comments after feeling the lump in my throat. It sucks that everyone with depression feels alone :/

@Sunnyside45335

3 жыл бұрын

same.... I almost cried ...

@GroggyFive59180

3 жыл бұрын

I hope that you guys are okay these days. Please be safe and remember that people care about you, even if it may not feel like it sometimes. If you are feeling troubled, maybe professional help is the answer, or talking to a trusted friend about what you are going through. Wish you all the best.

So many valid points. I'm sick and tired of people believing mental illness is a character flaw.

@juanpablo8886

4 жыл бұрын

It is not a flaw whatsoever but suicide is a character flaw. There is a difference.

@ktrudy1

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@DavidBrown-jk2pm

4 жыл бұрын

@@juanpablo8886 What?

@uwuowo947

4 жыл бұрын

@Roberto Insingo WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YEAH ITS NOT RIGHT BUT SUICIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER,its never the answer no matter how old you are if you think that suicide is the answer then seek professional help please

@paulfrewzy7374

4 жыл бұрын

Your a Long time dead trust me thurs no hurry + ya Don't kill the pain you only pass it on to loved one's ect hold in there its ok not to be ok and its good to talk

One cause of suicide can be when you feel trapped by circumstances.

@JohnNieuwenburg

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Jack, I believe that is the most common presenting reason: you feel trapped by circumstances.

@ABHINAVNR

7 жыл бұрын

thebeardless There is no Free Will!

@thejamz19

7 жыл бұрын

The idea of that is what has caused my depression

@yourshadowgirl5036

6 жыл бұрын

John Nieuwenburg you are amazing good luck🌹👌🏻

@painexotic3757

5 жыл бұрын

lol basically. this is why i was suicidal.

The support the crowd showed to this man is amazing.

@ohheyitsCassie

4 жыл бұрын

Moved me right to tears, my god 😭😭

@daveycrockett6781

3 жыл бұрын

The #1 reason it doesn't get recognized is because the vast majority of the 40,000 are males.

@nultyjack8219

2 жыл бұрын

@@daveycrockett6781 maybe dont generalise not all lot ye but a lot dent women do support men

@luzalgarin9518

2 жыл бұрын

Soon all illnesses (emotional, mental, physical) will be cured, as promised in Isaiah 33:24: "And no resident will say: “I am sick.” The people dwelling in the land will be pardoned for their error." And in Isaiah 35:5 and 6: "At that time the eyes of the blind will be opened, and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. At that time the lame will leap like the deer, and the tongue of the speechless will shout for joy." But, there are much more good things to come... Think about it!

@dap4699

2 жыл бұрын

@@luzalgarin9518 I'm no Christian but I recognize how poetic, beautiful and triumphant that quote is.

Suicide is not a call for help it is the result of a call for help not being ansewered

@joellemartin4466

3 жыл бұрын

This is the saddest truth

@daveycrockett6781

3 жыл бұрын

It is because the vast majority of success stories are males.

@jacquelynpowell7964

3 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head!

@zamanehzamani8984

2 ай бұрын

Our health system is not helping. We should do something about this.

It warms my heart when the audience applaud to his very real pain surfacing. Its increadebly brave to stand on a stage in front of so many people and be voulnrable.

@Curtis.Carpenter

4 жыл бұрын

"Are you willing to join me"? *voice stutters* "lets change the world"! Love this talk ,it was so inspirational and emotional

@brendaperez2116

2 жыл бұрын

He was not being vulnerable. But honest. It took STRENGTH. He has it. He is a Fighter and a Survivor. He WILL make it.

@haidengeary8277

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendaperez2116 Being vulnerable is being honest. You cannot be honest without allowing yourself to be vulnerable.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@haidengeary8277 wife back door not allowed ect

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@brendaperez2116 wife back door not allowed ect

Powerful... thank you for sharing your story. "Don't ask why the suicide, ask why the pain." "The opposite of depression is vitality." Those are two incredibly powerful takeaways. Yes, let's change the world.

@luigiguagliardo6509

4 жыл бұрын

@loveahusky

4 жыл бұрын

Allison Bran people, even close family members are to afraid to talk “feelings” but rather would stay superficial and inauthentic which triggers trust issues. It is a sad world. Jesus is the only WAY that keeps me from feeling alone. HE is always with me and heals the emptiness I suffer with my disease. God Bless You.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@loveahusky suicide not allowed

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@luigiguagliardo6509 suicide not allowed

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

The worst part of depression is the acute anxiety that often accompanies it.

Some people do not care about suicidal individuals until they have killed themselves. When you are alive you are a nobody to others. People will think nothing of bullying you or being mean-spirited towards you, but once your life has ended suddenly everyone is your "best friend" and they act kind; it is like an alternate personality has switched on in their brains. It is only once a person is dead that others want to help.

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

We're all caught up in our own lives until something pulls us out of the daily hypnotic state. You're right, sometimes it's an attempt. Sometimes even that's not enough. My daughter's multiple attempts were not enough to break through my depressed state for many years. It doesn't mean I didn't care about her, I didn't have the capacity.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@JackieSimmons-NoDrama who is your lord grave first question

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Will you not fear Allah

@bunsenn5064

10 ай бұрын

It’s because no one really acts how they feel. Everyone puts on a fake personality, and they shift it to fit the situation they’re in. When they’re in a position where they’re pressured to show sympathy, they will pretend to.

@user-ve4zp5el5k

4 ай бұрын

Respectively Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of lords

I’ve been watching every ted talk I can about suicide and depression, since my cousin took his life days ago. Trying to understand, cope and learn. These videos are such a great help to me in this time. Thank you

@jonneiss7562

4 жыл бұрын

very sorry. My uncle committed suicide in 1987. Suicide is very destructive to the survivors. If you still encounter difficulties, I would strongly encourage you to seek counseling for yourself. Can make all the difference. Take care.

@caller145

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry. Suicide is not an easy thing to deal with. My boyfriend and one of my friends tried to kill themselves and I've had my own moments as well. I know how much it can hurt. All the best for you

@asjeable

4 жыл бұрын

@Meg Doyle Did you not see it coming?

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

@@caller145 ❤

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonneiss7562 ❤

i do not believe suicide is a mental illness I believe suicide is a way of coping. I love this man.

@supahspyrosonicfan98

4 жыл бұрын

Dawn Anderson agree🙏🙏🤗🤗❤️❤️

@QBert904

4 жыл бұрын

Pulling the Strings Get help, please. Call the national suicide hotline if you wish to remain anonymous or seek help through family, teachers, or friends.

@dawnanderson611

4 жыл бұрын

Suicide isn't a choice I'd make but I judge noone

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@dawnanderson611 suicide not allowed

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@supahspyrosonicfan98 suicide not allowed

My son died by suicide 5 weeks ago. He wasiving with paranoid schitzofrenia. We all thought he had turned the corner. It started to look better. Then...... I think he forgot everyone and everything, a snap decision. Why, we will never know. I was, am and will always be proud of my beautiful boy. No stigma, i am open about what happened. He was ill. I am glad you survived John. Take care

@divinereference

7 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry!!

@unggrabb

7 ай бұрын

@@divinereference thank you, the way back to life for us, the family has been hard. I know can feel happy again, happy that i had the privilege to have my beautiful boy for as long as i did. I visit his grave every week, it is covered with flowers, i often sit there and talk to my boy, and play some of the music i know he loved. He is not walking with me, walking with us anymore. But he knows that his father and family loved him dearly. And - that he is not forgotten.

Life feels claustrophobic for a major depressive.

@daveycrockett6781

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting because I have felt that feeling at rare moments after dark so yes, there is a connection.

@Kerosene.Dreams

3 жыл бұрын

@@daveycrockett6781 You are left to your mind and all snafus of the day come to the front come to the front, as well as everything in your life that needs to be done or figured out that you have yet to do. Overwhelmed and claustrophobic are the same feeling, I think.

@daveycrockett6781

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kerosene.Dreams Perhaps you make a valid analogy that has me thinking so TU.

People who have not suffered from depression naturally don't understand it . Even professionals really don't understand it . With young people suffering with depression it can be even more difficult. Young people have the energy to disguise their depression. I believe that is why there suicide rate is high . Most depressed people do their best to hide how depressed they are . I use to congratulate myself for coming off happy at an event when I was extremely depressed. After awhile it becomes increasingly impossible to do this . I believe the thinking process is very different in depressed people . An example of this would be a person who ends their own life . They have left so many signs that they were going to end their lives. A person who has never felt this way probably will miss the signs. A young depressed person might not say the words depression or suicide. The same can be true with adults. One element that really doesn't play a part in this would be , " They had it all " A depressed - suicidel person cannot relate to that .

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

@Humble Guy ❤

@rowdy7480

4 жыл бұрын

@Humble Guy yes, ❤

@kristinvandertick7591

4 жыл бұрын

Carolyn Lyford Sullivan very well said🥰

@sorrowandsufferin924

4 жыл бұрын

And the worst thing: You really start to understand the steps you have to take to appear fine. It's said that people dealing with depression have a more accurate grasp on reality. Maybe that's a factor in understanding what people commonly believe to be a "normal" life. And one more point: Antidepressants are some of the most expensive medication out there, partly because they can screw you up so entirely, you're not only out of this life, you're two lifes over. People dealing with depressions take these antidepressants and then, afterwards, appear normal. This heavy medication, so powerful, is already in that illusion of a normal life.

@rvanhees89

4 жыл бұрын

@@sorrowandsufferin924 the most horrible part is that the longer you have depression the shorter or smaller your perception on the window of time gets. You start to lose the ability to look in the future and the past, you increasingly cannot see what lies ahead of you, and what lies behind you. You get trapped in a continious present of pain. There is only now, and now is here, and here is now. You are stuck, trapped in a present with only the presence of pain. Of pain and existential terror. Sure, suicide might seem like the easy way out, but only because they dont know how incredibly hard and awful the road is to get here. And here is now. *bang*

I wanna hug him ♥

@larsli8649

6 жыл бұрын

Olga Maria Carcamo omg you're cutee

@shizzle1903

4 жыл бұрын

I’d like to hug you, him and everyone else who is either struggling with these issues or who is empathetic to them.

@jayashinaparthiban1209

4 жыл бұрын

@@shizzle1903 We need more people like you, yes I need a hug too ❤.

I attempted suicide, because I was in so much emotional pain. I still feel ashamed, but I know I shouldn't. I was depressed to the point of being insane. It was not my fault. This man is SO brave to talk about this. We shouldnt stigmatize talking about it.

@leilaelalaoui356

3 жыл бұрын

hope you're doing better now, take care

It's not an illness it's NEED! NEED for HELP! NEED for LOVE! NEED for UNDERSTANDING! NEED for CHANGE!

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

And it's sometimes an illness and sometimes a reaction to medication and sometimes it's a biochemical imbalance in the brain. Accepting the mystery of it and helping without the need to understand it is a start.

@alanmclain7072

3 жыл бұрын

Need for change.

@4estdweller4ever

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackieSimmons-NoDrama pOllp

I wake up every day and sob because I am still here. If I kill myself, I hurt all my family. So I try to live everyday, for my family. Nothing can help me anymore.

@klanderkal

4 күн бұрын

I feel the same way as you. My family loves me.... but I'm so much in mental pain from my losses that meant everything to me. They said it's a form of trauma and grief. I got horrible anxiety and depression..! I also have insomnia... I don't sleep anymore. I'm like on shock. I can't believe how my life was destroyed,... and that it was my fault... suffering is so hard to endure. I feel you're pain. It's so unbearable

I have attempted suicide and the darkness that one see's is as if one where living in hell. This video is empowering, it shows how much emotion and relief this man has. Best of luck to this man and all those who are going and have gone through this.

@JohnNieuwenburg

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jose for your kind feedback. I am glad you're still with us. :-)

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

❤Love & Strength to You❤

@rowdy7480

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnNieuwenburg ❤

@H3XED_OwO

Жыл бұрын

Yet at the same time you have this strange feeling of hope, like everything is finally coming to a close...

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@H3XED_OwO who is your lord grave first question

"The number one symptom of Depression is the inability to feel pleasure" Stanford's Professor Robert Sapolsky On Depression

I don't think suicide is an act of cowerdnass I think some people can't even fathom what others are going through so we cannot be the judge of suicide I totally agree with this guy 100%

@Toffee146

2 жыл бұрын

....cowardice.

@H3XED_OwO

Жыл бұрын

What often makes you hate yourself even more is that you are too much of a "coward" to kill yourself to begin with. It's more or less the other way around. (at least for me)

@danielgiordani7625

3 ай бұрын

You are 100% right. As someone whos suffered severe depression and suicidal ideations for years. Been hospitalized more times than I can count, was on medication for years. I’ve been through pain and suffering the human brain can’t even comprehend. I’ve been to places so dark and painful you have no idea.

Support is key, if I had that my life would be much different. Not everyone has family and friends to be there for you.

@2Tigerbabe

Жыл бұрын

So true…

I'll never forget trying to call a "suicide hotline" for help, and they immediately asked for payment. I was broke, so this made me even more suicidal

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

Free help - 24/7 1-800-273-8255

@the-engneer

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieSimmons-NoDrama I'm not buying it

He is a true hero

a very authentic man with some incredible valid points. He came with the facts, and numbers. PLUS it was personal. His coming out, so to speak, is a chance and a message for all of us who think hiding is the best bet.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

This is my favourite talk on mental illness, depression and suicide... having watched different suicide talks all day

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

Are you hanging in? Me too.❤

Sir, you did more for me with this talk than any NAMI support group chat I have ever attended. Thank you.

@JohnNieuwenburg

7 жыл бұрын

HI Kirsten, thank you for your kind feedback. Best wishes to you going forward!

@marypac4882

5 жыл бұрын

You know, mate, it really depends on your NAMI support group. Try to other county

@riejannetilgenkamp5190

4 жыл бұрын

I hope everyone here gets happier you guys deserve it.

What a beautiful and brave soul. How anyone can argue the points he addressed I don't know. They really can't. Suicide isn't an act of cowardice. He summed it up perfectly: it's an act of desperation. The number of different life stresses that can afflict people and push them to the point of suicide is staggering. This is no easy world to live in.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

The world functions in a way where mental illness and suicide is absolutely unavoidable for some people.

whoever reads this As a survivor of suicide and battling everyday mentally don't give up if I can do it you can keep pushing

@peterturley1331

3 жыл бұрын

Brothers in Tears 💜

@ChrisFarrellChannel

3 жыл бұрын

💜

@blindkimberly1360

3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad for you. Hope you continue to push. I don’t wanna

"Obviously, something went wrong, and I survived." Damn that simple sentence says it all.

I’m 47 and have battled chronic depression for over 40 years. Most of it stems from severe childhood and generational trauma. What a BRILLIANT TED Talk and what a beautiful man. Much love, strength and peace, from Country Victoria. Australia. Xx

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

In my case of 30+ years with depression you can also add 30 years of loneliness. No Friends, no Love. I am 52 years old and realize that i have *never* experienced what it feels to be loved ( talking of the relationship / partnership sort of Love here ). Yes, you can feel very empty and useless when NO ONE wants you . The last time i have gently touched a woman or have been touched by one was on June 27th 1987. I am thinking about ending my life on a daily basis, for many years. And yes, i have been in psychiatric therapy too, for a long time , and i am on medication.

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

STAYing is very brave. Thank you.

@arlethdelaf

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone has a purpose on this earth. Life is not a competition and we all thrive at different stages. Your purpose in life will be revealed one day, maybe not tomorrow or next year but you have a purpose on this earth.

@ligiailean1852

2 жыл бұрын

You are loved and wanted! Do not despair please! I m here if you need to talk! God bless you always.

@ligiailean1852

2 жыл бұрын

I love your heart! 😇

@yeshalloween

2 жыл бұрын

I have no friends either. Never have. I truly understand.

If you tell someone you're suffering from a potentially fatal liver disease they'll do everything to help and comfort you. If you tell someone you have clinical depression , often a fatal disease also, they tell you shake you to shake it off and think less of your character and often abandon you. Yet they are identical, sick body organs that can be fatal. Our culture is messed up. Because that stigma and abandonment highly increases the probability of fatality with depression. We have to get our act together. Cheers for this brave man.

I too tried to hang myself 10 years ago. I don’t think I really wanted to die but I didn’t know how to live. Happy to say that with help and support my life has been turned around. I never judge 🙏

@H3XED_OwO

Жыл бұрын

"I don’t think I really wanted to die but I didn’t know how to live."... that is way too relatable

I have been at that place and am alive living a purposeful life

The courage of this man to press on is inspiring for all.

I wish my brother could have seen this... maybe he would still be here. I just lost him 4 days ago.. this is my new lifes mission, to raise awareness of suicide and suicide prevention. I couldn't stop my brother, but maybe I can save another life in his honor.

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

❤😢💕Love & Strength to You❤

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

How's your mission coming? I'm on the same one.

“Suicide,” he whispers, “It’s silence.” That was so powerful and so true. My respect ✊ to this man. I get it. Thank you for sharing it with everyone so we feel “real”

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

Awesome brother. So glad you are still in my life!!!

@kissingcandy1

9 жыл бұрын

Wish mine was xx

I have scares from where I try to bleed out by cutting mental illness is no fun I wish it on no one....

I cried with him. he explained it so well. As someone who has considered it in the past. It is true, you don't know if you want to die, you just want the pain to stop and it is the only way to do it. Wish I could give him a huge hug. He is alive because he has a purpose. and this is it!!!

@metnasopar8861

2 жыл бұрын

How did you move on?

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

@@metnasopar8861 suicide not allowed

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

Suicidal thoughts are in my mind are chronic state of mind,crippling depression and sequences of events

"At the time I didn't think their help was available" The real tragedy, in many ways. Thank you for surviving, by providence or mistake or fortune, and thank you for speaking. Thank you for displaying a real gut-punch of emotion on the stage, over and over again, that we may listen and prosper in ways you did not have the opportunity. I am humbled, sir. Thank you.

It took me seven years and a housemate that realized I was really not doing well to get actual help. I was diagnosed with depression at 15 after my first suicide attempt....I started consistent treatment at 22.

Living takes a lot of courage. I can imagine e when people feel they have none left.

The thing is when the medical professional tell you that your not depress.I walked out on psychologist after he said that to me,and since then i never talked about it to anyone.

@goodintentions1302

4 жыл бұрын

Neil Legacy, Please try again. I know how slim the chances of getting a good counselor are. Yet there are some good ones out there. I'm searching again myself. I'm also trying to get genetic testing done because antidepressants have never helped me. Unfortunately, the new doctor I'm going to for that says the genetic testing doesn't help. I feel like I have to do something though. I'm also going to ask him about ketamine infusions. I hate that thought of that. My only other option is to "hole up" because I've gotten to the point where I can't stand being around people.

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

@@goodintentions1302 ❤

@mophead_xu

4 жыл бұрын

happened to me, maybe in 8th grade. told that it was just puberty and hormones doing their thing, and other kids experience it too. well, i cant focken ask them if they felt so lonely they wished they were dead too, can i?? especially since i had no friends, wasnt really close to anyone, and the psychologist KNEW this. years later, even with friends, i still struggle with it. tell me any 20-something year old that still "goes through puberty", if that was really just puberty and hormones. the stupidest part was i instinctively felt like i had to avoid mental health "professionals" altogether ever since then, but never quite put the pieces together until i was about 19. only then i was like, "ooh, so thats why. so maybe am not sabotaging meself just to keep the "depressed" brand, i was scared."

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

@@goodintentions1302 boy, I am in exactly the same spot.

@goodintentions1302

4 жыл бұрын

@@PHanomaly, I still am on the waiting list so haven't seen anyone yet. I've gotten into a financial bind with car repairs and more recently large dental bills. The minimal social interaction has now been changed to online only since I was, unknowingly at the time, exposed to CoVid-19 and developed a scratchy throat. I'm not as interested in the genetic testing now. I got totally ticked off with some people, kicked them out of my life, and haven't been as depressed since. The CoVid-19 hugger should have known to be careful since they'd just been in Italy. Instead, they visited all around, claiming they had a cold. I'd been fed up with their sarcasm and making a joke out of everything. They can bugger-off from now on!

It's okay not to be okay. Don't feel ashamed. We love you. I love you. Been there, done that. 💞

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

We need, and deserve more than that, more than telling us it's okay not to be okay. That's NOT okay with me. We can, and must, do more.

John, thank you, especially for telling the truth. The act of suicide is not to kill him or herself. It is a cry for help because that person can not find anyway to make the pain, confusion or weight of burdens go away. I was taking medication for depression but it was not working? Please explain to the DOJ that those people that attempt suicide, get the correct help they need, should not be deemed unsafe to own or possess firearms. This happened to me. I planned to learn more about my handgun and shotgun and then to become an instructor of firearms. Firearms are not for shooting one's self. A gun leaves too much of a mess behind. To use a gun in this way dishonors the gun and what it is meant for; to protect ones home and family. As you say depression is an illness. It is treatable through therapy and medication. But treatment is not the same for each person. But this illness does not mean that each person that has this illness is not able to safely have, or use a firearm. That is a part of my hope...so that perhaps one day I can teach others about weapons; the responsibility that comes with ownership of a weapon and the necessity to keep it in a safe, controlled place (away from kids). Thank you John. I am glad that you did not die and, that your partner and family gathered around you. Thank you for having the strength to "out" yourself. More of us need to do this.

@awesomeawesomesauce

7 жыл бұрын

I get that as a theoretical framework, calling a suicide attempt a "cry for help" is feasible but come on. It's not. It's a horrible solution that people come up with in a severely compromised state of mind. They want their pain to end but cannot fix it so they take matters into their own hands. Sure, things MIGHT get better but it seems impossible. So poof, after much deliberation, the decision is made and even more deliberation is taken as the person wants the pain to end but doesn't want to die so they seesaw between going through and not. It's a stupid thing stupid people do. I should know, I've tried and know a lot of people that have. Funny but birds of a feather do flock together. My point being, you're using words that are helpful but not nessecarily truthful. Some lies are needed at the moment of pain. A person that commits suicide because they've cheated usually can't be told, "you ARE in the wrong, but you shouldn't commit suicide anyway" no matter how true that statement is. BUT it irks me. What you're doing in your words is a violation of the principle of truth and fairness. If the facts are so painful they cause people to commit suicide isn't of a higher priority to let the truth out rather than protecting the weak willed? It irks me. From a moral and ideal standpoint, it pisses me off.

13 months ago, I was at this point. No I have never been diagnosed, but I have felt depression and hopelessness and in the last 2 years it has been very hard to feel myself or like I was a positive part of my family. I spent 2 hours walking between a bench and the bridge I was debating jumping over. Back and forth several times...just lost. Until a homeless person (or at the very least down on their luck) came by me a second time since I had gotten to my spot. They had gotten enough money to do a little food shopping, or maybe someone else helped them. The point is, they got my attention as my head was in my hands, and offered me some granola bars. They said, "You look like you need this more." I'm a little skinny, but I really think that and my clear mental state was telling. That one act of kindness turned my mood around enough, just enough, that I stood up and walked back home. I wish to thank that person. They really helped me that day and I am happy they did.

People who try to suicide do not want to end their lives. Instead they want to end the unbearable pain inside the brain.

This man is an inspiration. I can't even imagine the strength it takes to stand on that stage and tell his story.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

God, this man makes me want to cry 😭. What a hero.

@treatmenice1564

4 жыл бұрын

Total hero! Wow! That's one brave man!

I can't imagine the amount of bravery this took. I've got so much respect for this man.

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

Most people (friends and family) would be mad at me, tell me to get help, red flag me, and never speak toe again. So I keep it to myself. Thank you for opening up to complete strangers and trying to help.

Notice how Reagan R and Mondale D were so nice & cordial and towards each other? Good old days are over.

I think about suicide every single day on a daily basis, my whole life was negativity and stress and losing family members. I tell everyone about my pain but what I get is nothing, no help. All I ever think about suicide because I feel like nothing is getting better for me. I already know one day that day is going to make me snap and just not wanting to be here anymore. Ever since my mom passed when I was 11 everything goes down hill, I'm 19 now and now I just feel like I dont be long here. I hope one day everything changes for the better but until then I just dont see myself being here much longer.

@robmarthin7156

2 жыл бұрын

if you need help go talk to your friends, family and people you trust, life can be great and will get even better after the pandemic ends so do not waste it and life have a lot of good experiences and memories that are gonna make you think it was all worth it, a lot of people who tried to end their lives remember that they changed their mind and are happy to be alive, if necessary search for help in the internet and if you can afford it call a therapist "ending your life is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" also do not be shy to call for help.

I've tried to get help recently. Out of 6 calls, I got out on 1 waiting list, left 5 messages and a week later have heard nothing. I can't even pay someone to listen.

@Shellyshocked

4 жыл бұрын

My daughter attempted suicide this past year. She was on life support for a week, we weren't sure if she'd make it but, she did. She was actually pissed when she woke up in the hospital and realized we had kept her on life support. She was held in the hospital for a week more on a suicide watch. the nurses and doctors were extremely rude to her. They would complain that she was taking up a room that could be used for "real" sick people. They would tell her this was her own fault she put herself there. Obviously what she did landed her in the hospital but, the psychiatrist evaluating her should have been more sensitive. Finally they released her with the stipulation she got therapy and medication for her depression. We called at least five places within our area and all of them had a 5 to 8 month waiting list to get in to see someone. And all the private practices didn't take her insurance. She almost lost her job because her boss said she had to be in therapy before coming back to work. She tried to explain there was a 5 to 8 month waiting list. She begged her to come back to work until she could finally get in to see someone. After 2 months of being out of work, they finally gave in and let her come back. It's sad that if she had been diagnosed with cancer or some other physical illness her colleagues and bosses would have been sympathetic and rallied around her with support. But because it's a mental illness she's treated like a criminal. Her colleagues would Whisperer behind her back and they stopped talking to her. The worst part is the same people she works with work in a hospital. She is a clinical assistant and she was hospitalized in the same hospital she works in. HIPAA is supposed to protect a patient's personal information but, because she works there everybody found out. One of the nurses who works with her was the one to go and tell her boss what happened. That's when they gave her a hard time about coming back to work. That nurse had know right to say anything to the higher-ups. She said if she ever attempts again, she will make sure she doesn't make it. Especially after seeing how badly she was treated. She hides her depression from everyone because she doesn't want to be treated badly. That was the problem in the first place. She kept hiding it and pretending like nothing was wrong until it finally became too much. people always feel bad for people who are sick with a terminal illness who say they want to die because they're in too much pain. Sadly if you're in emotional pain and you want to die, you're just considered crazy and unstable. Sorry this is such a long comment. I just wanted to get my point across that even in 2019 nothing has changed :(

@rodbrez6415

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shellyshocked no, thanks for that. I'm sorry to hear about your daughter and I hope it all works out. Some days are better than others. I hope your daughter finds the better ones. Hang in there.

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo!!!

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too, "I cant even pay someone to listen".

I’ve been fighting suicidal thoughts since 2001. Now I know I won’t do it, but I really look forward to the day I die. My pain will end then.

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

Hugs.

@debbiesmith8248

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieSimmons-NoDrama, thank you

Thank you. I suffer from depression too. And sometimes it can be really hard.

@healthyone100

4 жыл бұрын

me too!

I still tear up when I'm reminded of what Robin Williams had to resort to. A man who only tried to make people laugh and feel better, and he could never do that for himself.

@jimtimmy93

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO hard pass

@jimtimmy93

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you reconsider the fact that you're speaking for an imaginary magical wizard that you think lives in the sky :D

i wish more people like us could meet eye to eye and get some help, it's just so hurtfull to deal with people who don't get it and just make you feel worse

I cannot believe this that he gave the exact analogy of world trade that I once said to my friend. We were having a discussion on suicide and she said people who commit suicide are weak then I said, a lot of people jumped from the building in 9/11, that's not being weak its just how life feels in depression. Life is like a burning building sometimes. And there is nothing wrong in being weak. You're strong I'm weak. Good for you good for me.

I'm just gonna get through this quarantine by running a ton and watching every TED talk i can

What a courageous man !! So much respect for him ,actually cried with him.. I have struggled with depression all my life ..

Wow, what an analogy to comparing a suicidal depressed person's pain to that decision that those in the world trade center. When you look at it like that, you can really understand that. There is this idea that when people are doing something for attention or for help, we need to ask 'why'. Why would someone feel that they needed to do something desperate in order to receive help.

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

Strikes a cord with me, thoughts f being alone and helpless. Im so glad you are still in this world and helping to change it

Thank you John for sharing this with us. You are being so strong by being vulnerable

WOW! We need brave people like you to lead us towards the 'Utopian' world that we all envision. You certainly changed my perspective. Hats off to you!!!

I'll join you. That was a very powerful and honest talk. What a brave guy, I'm glad you're still here.

Wow... i listen from 3 to 7 ted talks per week. This has definitely been one of my favorites, I was so touched...

This talk is one of the best ted talks I have heard, made me cry.. each of his words made so much sense.. I know the feeling

Thank you for this John.

Deeply good. Perhaps the best TED talk I’ve seen on suicide. Thank you!

@ibrahimghibihisab8913

Жыл бұрын

Suicide not allowed

I want to say thank you- I found your lecture incredibly brave and so beautifully composed.. Ten minutes after I watched it, I was struck by something I wonder if anyone else wondered - the fluid filled abscess in your liver, that must have been growing there for ages; surely that would have affected your brain; caused it to be depressed? I have thought for ages that depression is a sign your are physically ill, something festering, hidden away and undetected. I have read that the stats are high for Alzheimer's patients being depressed for decades before the Alzheimer's obvious symptoms reveal themselves. I hope you are thriving now, vital and happy!

@W5Coaching

8 жыл бұрын

Elaine, thank you for your kind comments. The cause of the liver abscess was never determined. I was under the care of 5 different medical team as they tried to determine the cause. I think your theory is quite plausible. Depression and mental illness is a physical illness of the brain which gets manifested as behavioural issues. May 25 of this year is my 5th (re)birthday and I am healthier than ever. Thanks again for your lovely feedback.

@phillkj

6 жыл бұрын

W5 Coaching my doctor told me that when depression goes untreated for so long it causes physical symptoms. That happened to me, I was so sick and in and out of ERs but depression was never diagnosed. I suffered with depression for over 2 decades

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

@@phillkj ❤

@angelatrebor8681

4 жыл бұрын

@@W5Coaching ❤👍

Thank you so much for your moving speech. I suffer from depression, suffered from it all my life but was never diagnosed until weeks ago. I wish many people will watch this and change the way they see mental illnesses and things people do in despair like suicide.

A neighbour took his own life yesterday. He was young, handsome and his folks had bought his flat for him. He's recently been struggling with illness of some kind. He hung himself in the communal stairwell. So tragic! Such a loss. We all need to become Advocates in our local communities. Be people who others can come to for a chat. I wish I'd have spoken to this guy now. RIP Tom xx

@mariaseidi4764

5 жыл бұрын

Yes but normally depressed people avoid conversation and socializing ,it's part of the disease...when samebody really reach rock bottom nothing can help (money ,friends ,doctors...).Believe me I have been you there.

@ligiailean1852

2 жыл бұрын

God rest his soul!😇

I hate this world

One of the most beautiful talks ever made. Thank you 💜 for sharing.

Thank you for a very courageous talk.

This may have been one of the best TED Talks ever this man is incredible he lives for a reason and the reason is you what a beautiful heart

Oh my goodness what a wonderful brave and generous soul! Thank you John Nieuwenburg for sharing your powerful story and asking us to join you.

That was so relatable. Thank you for having the courage to tell your story.

Well done John. Thanks for sharing your story.

What a remarkable human being! I'm thankful he's alive & grateful he bravely chose to share his personal story.

This man is such a wonderful person for sharing with us with anguish. Far from seeing him as weak I see a brave person worthy of all the care and support available.

john, I'm so proud of you for sharing your story and making a difference. you're a beautiful person. also tysm for bringing up ableist language

Your courage is to be admired. Thank you. A lesser man couldn't have said it.

God bless you for your courage - I'm bipolar and I've learned about beating the stigma - I need to talk, and others need to hear and repeat the hero's stories like yours. Thanks a lot

That was very powerful John. I have an Uncle and a nephew with mental illness. I also have a cousin that committed suicide. Thank you for sharing your story. God bless you

THANK YOU. The only person who has been able to put my life and feelings into words

@PHanomaly

4 жыл бұрын

More of us need to be invited to help. I keep trying, and keep being excluded from the discussions-- about people like me.

Thank you for the courage to tell your story. It is inspirational.

How i respect such brave people who speak out and try to change things around💕

Tons of love and hugs for you sir ❤️

John Nieuwenburg, thank you so much for your bravery. I lost a 15 year old son to suicide in 2012. I and the world lost a wonderful young man the day he left, and of course our family will never be the same. He will always be missing. We need to talk about this. It needs to be ok for people to talk without judgement about their mental illness, feelings, perceptions. Please keep telling your story and creating awareness!

@JohnNieuwenburg

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Karen, I wish all the best to you and your family. And yes, I will and do keep telling the story!

@JackieSimmons-NoDrama

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnNieuwenburg Roger is trying to connect us so that I can interview you on The Suicide Prevention Show.

@JohnNieuwenburg

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieSimmons-NoDrama I sent you a reply by email to the introduction Roger sent us.

Thank you, needed to hear this.

Awestruck! No words I can articulate to explain how beautiful,honest and painful it must have been to stand on a stage for the first time to tell his story. Life changing for me… a blessing from God.

What a great *speech* amazing courage and a very well kind of *simple* way of explaining the way of thinking how the suicidal person is thinking. Very glad you are alive. Respect and thank you.

This is a very good talk, with many excellent and relevant points. He does a great job of showing everyone just how amazingly profound the lack of awareness and absence of understanding of depression and about suicide continues to exist in our society. Yet, it's important to see this: This man is so fortunate to actually have people around him that care and cared enough to make sure that he knew! They cared enough that even years later, after his suicide attempt, when he made this video, he knew they cared. How many people suffer and nobody cares? How many people have attempted suicide but still nobody ever cares? How does someone that suffers from chronic, clinical depression continue to live and fight back their suicidal impulses when they don't have any friends or family that care whether they live or die?