Sting should have thanked and mention James o'barr in his induction speech into the WWE Hall of Fame... because had it not been for the crow look that he had he wouldn't have gotten as over as he did with the fans.. so he owes James O'barr and the crow for it... He's Lucky he was allowed to keep the crow gimmick for as long as he did..

@ChrisMisc1

5 жыл бұрын

Sting was the most popular wrestler in WCW before The Crow gimmick.

@DJObiSmalls

4 жыл бұрын

Sting won most Popular wrestler of the year 3 times before his crow gimmick!

@alanguages

3 жыл бұрын

@sil3nt j I liked Surfer Sting better, but the Crow gimmick gave him a distinct look. The surfer version always changed face paint and designs, he was not specific. The Ultimate Warrior had one particular face paint design, so it would not matter what colours he had.

@YousefTube

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanguages me too but I like his look in 95,96 when he got a black hair Surfer Sting before he turn into The Crow.

@LuciferTheDogKiller

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisMisc1 If he didn't change into the crow character, he wouldn't have remained the most popular wrestler in WCW.

I met James O'Barr at a convention a few years ago. Very nice but also a quiet man. I actually had him sign a Sting figure of mine ironically. He took it and looked at it for a minute, and then signed it "I am owed royalties, James O'Barr". We both laughed and he seemed to be a good sport about it. I hope to get Sting to sign the same figure someday! The Crow is one of my favorite movies of all time, and the comic is one of the most emotional stories I've ever read. I'd love to meet O'Barr again someday! I was honestly starstruck when I met him bc of the impact that character has had on me.

@YousefTube

3 жыл бұрын

He's in Jacksonville Florida on Wednesday Night.

Sting was great, but he really should’ve thanked and credited James for the Crow look he used. It re-ignited his career. And there is no question that his look was copied directly from the Crow. It was, without question.

The first rule in avoiding lawsuits. Never admit guilt. Sting did not know if the guy was joking or not. If the guy was serious and Sting had said, yes the character was based on the Crow andwas recorded it, he had already lost and would owe.

What an accepting and cool with things dude. Not many people are like that majority would have sued for using somebody's idea.

Cant believe that Sting said that he got the idea from Marilyn Manson to James. The Crow gimmick saved Stings career. Always wonder why James never sued Sting over the look, but it just shows how down to earth James is. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

@indymudshow

3 жыл бұрын

The paint it was changed to DID come from manson.

I've always wondered about this myself, thanks for uploading.. 😁👍

James O’Barr should have been shown Crow Sting’s 1997 WCW STARCADE entrance right then & there, before, after question asked...😶 James O’Barr inside mind reaction would have been most likely, “What in the Fuck, this beautifully amazing, how in the Hell, new Crow Sting against the NWO comic book soon”...🤯

Since I was 9, which would be 1990, sting was my favorite wrestler. In 1994, i found the crow graphic novel and movie in the same 2 week span, opened my eyes up to art styled to try as well as great music. Then come 1996/97, Sting starts showing up in crow make up. I was all for it. I know the Manson make up he is referring to. Manson had a pattern on his face similar to what sting changed his too, it was on cover to his “Guns God Government” era tour….but that dvd came out after his ‘Holy Wood” album, which was 2000. As they say in the wrasslin’ fan circle, not even Steiner math can solve that problem, Stinger.

Marilyn Manson was still in his spooky kid phase in 94 , and Manson never wore crow ESK makeup.

@austinsmith104

Жыл бұрын

The gimmick change happened in 96. Sting got the face paint design from a Marilyn Manson Rolling Stone cover.

@waylinbanshee8174

Жыл бұрын

@@austinsmith104 Nah dude , He originally came out with the actual crow makeup ( One line down each eye with black lipstick doing the line across ) know your history .

@austinsmith104

Жыл бұрын

@@waylinbanshee8174 I do know my history. Sting only used that design for a few months until he started using the Manson inspired design which he has used ever since. The character was obviously a Crow rip off suggested to Sting by Scott Hall. The Facepaint Sting has used for decades was inspired by Manson. That's a 100% fact.

i looked it up and holy shit - sting's face paint really does look 100% more like manson's pic in the 97 rolling stone cover than eric draven the crow.

Everyone KNOWS It was wrestler SCOTT HALL who came up with the look DIRECTLY FROM THE MOVIE. Steve a.k a. STINg decided to go with it

@justsomeoldyoutuber6093

Жыл бұрын

Stop it smark and know it is copyright infringement like most wrestling related crap.

Well to be fair he did get inspiration from manson as well. One of mansons designs on his face paint Sting would later use so it wouldn't look identical to Brandon Lee.

We got some marks in the house...4 years worth 🤣 Not sure where this Marilyn Manson thing came from, but we've known since 1999 that it was Scott Hall (Razor Ramon) who pitched the idea after seeing the movie. Now start watching wrestling peeps....they do what your favorite actors can't do.... their own stunts and in ONE damn take 👊 :DX catchphrases here:

@donjames2241

Жыл бұрын

I think the gimmick was directly and obviously based on The Crow but I gotta agree with dudes on the Marilyn Manson thing. When Sting debuted The Crow gimmick he had the mime-like eye slits just like Eric Draven (and a weird half painted face leaving only his jaw line and mouth unpainted) but I'm guessing when O'barr had a problem with the blatant resemblance to Draven Sting had to change up the face paint just a bit. If you look up the Rolling Stone 97 cover they're talking about it is pretty comparable if not identical almost.

@donjames2241

Жыл бұрын

I think the gimmick was directly and obviously based on The Crow but I gotta agree with dudes on the Marilyn Manson thing. When Sting debuted The Crow gimmick he had the mime-like eye slits just like Eric Draven (and a weird half painted face leaving only his jaw line and mouth unpainted) but I'm guessing when O'barr had a problem with the blatant resemblance to Draven Sting had to change up the face paint just a bit. If you look up the Rolling Stone 97 cover they're talking about it is pretty comparable if not identical almost.

it was Scott Hall's idea.

Scott hall gave sting that gimmick

Yes james, manson WAS around back then. The changed paint came from the Manson rolling stone cover from Jan 1997.

@LuciferTheDogKiller

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't sting make the change into his crow character 3 months before that magazine even came out ?

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@Boomerjojo79

4 жыл бұрын

Um dude they are doing a reboot not a remake it is going to be like the comics

The gimmick was the crow but the 2 black streaks he wears on his eyes are from Marilyn manson.

@DenkyManner

4 ай бұрын

The vertical eye streaks are from the Crow. Sting's first makeup in the gimmick was almost exactly the same as the movie

So wcw never got the Rights from the movie to get sting his crow look at least they laugh about it

@YousefTube

3 жыл бұрын

So dose CAPCOM didn't get the right to use Mike Tyson likeness on Street Fighter 2 to this very day but somehow they got away with it.

@LuciferTheDogKiller

2 жыл бұрын

@@YousefTube Are you talking about the boxer character of Balrog ?

@SFNDMK

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuciferTheDogKiller yeah thats right, although they decided to change his name to Balroh in the stats cos they didn't want to get sued( his name was suppose to be Mike Bison)

WWE Superstar Kevin Nash was the one who gave Sting the idea to paint his face in tribute to The Crow, *BECAUSE* of the fact they are hard core Crow fans, like me. But it has nothing to do with The Crow character And because (with all do respect) to James, we all obveously know where any samples of Eric Draven's face paint comes from when inspired, it does put a yellow tape around James and his creation from the world a bit. And I wouldn't blame him. He owns that shit, he created our deep love for the most beloved story ever. Although I didn't quite understand why he said Sting told him he got the idea off of Marilyn Manson, it really wasn't true or maybe James forgot how Sting told him of how he got it. But in the case of Sting painting his face like The Crow, I hope James understood that Sting (Steve Bordan) had no thought of the Crow character.

@trustobey1016

5 жыл бұрын

It was Scott Hall who gave him the idea.

@SamoanObsidian

5 жыл бұрын

trustobey1016 My mistake. Yeah, it was Scott.

@tomjoad929

3 жыл бұрын

Scarface vs the Crow lol

@indymudshow

3 жыл бұрын

It was the paint manson wore on the cover of rolling stone Jan 1997.

@yvngdragon2563

3 жыл бұрын

@@indymudshow yep ur right some of the paint but not the character but what's crazy is Sting had paint with the actual crow paint on aswell mainly the upper half of his face thanks for pointing that out about the cover

To be fair in the Nitro book on wcw it clearly states sting was showed pictures of Marilyn Manson as ideas for a new darker character. The crow look was someone else’s addition to the conversation. So technically sting wasn’t lying when he said he got his inspiration from Marilyn Manson 🤷🏻‍♂️

So fidgety… so nervous acting… 🤔