Anyone else dying to see what Klee made?!?!?!

Rafi: Be terrified all the time. Me: Yay! I'm doing life right!!

In the creating the creation is creating you!

@matthewpicklesimer293

3 жыл бұрын

@N S i would totally agree

Klee & Rafi this is the most important podcast you ever made. Thank you a thousands times!

I agree with this completely. I recently ran into a major road block on a 30x30 large floral piece. I scraped off the roses NINE times. NINE! I actually thought I might scrape a hole in the canvas...everything you talked about went through my head: I'm not an artist. I suck. Roses suck. I wasn't meant to paint roses. Its a sign from the universe!!! lol. But on that ninth try, it happened. It suddenly came together and the roses magically appeared on the canvas just as I'd imagined all along. It just took that many times to find the rose in my chaos. If I've learned anything, its keep going. I think if I had stopped and had to learn this one lesson over the course of nine different paintings I may have given up completely. But now not only did I not give up, I'm fully confident I can do it again and that, to me is progress.

Love, love, love to you, to your channel ❤️🙏

@Rafiwashere

Жыл бұрын

Same to you Bella!

This has been your most most helpful out of all your brilliant podcasts, for me! I always assumed I needed to be completely clear and organised, but it's just not me or my process! You've lifted a weight of my shoulders thank you!!!

As a big process person, I love to envision the end result, reverse engineer it, then follow the steps. It's been helpful in developing my artistic intuition.

Thank you Rafi! Now I feel like I’m on the right track. 😃 I love happy accidents! 😄🖼💥

I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for being so real. I've been crushed in spirit as a creative and you lifted my spirit as an artist. I thought I was alone and everything you said in the video I've struggled with. Thank you!

You said that we learn in hindsight, and I think that’s true! Sometimes after I do a piece I dream about that piece! I dream about doing the process with the changes that I’ve decided would be best! Sometimes I plan pieces in my sleep as well! Or if I’m really in the zone creating a piece but I have to stop because I have to sleep, I will dream about finishing the piece! So when I wake up, I literally try to finish it right away. Otherwise it’s going to be on my mind until I’m able to finish!

There’s more wisdom in this video than you can shake a stick at ! ( as we say in the UK) Meaning lots!! Thank you 🙏

Oh My God....you are REALLY tweaking!!!! Great video , talk AND art piece!

Wow. I like that rotating easel! I've never seen one like that!

@katkeller5466

3 жыл бұрын

Right?! NEEED

This particular art conversation is THE BEST VIDEO that you have done....... yeppp

As far as "knowing what you're doing before you start" I agree with Raffi -- it is both a leading and a following, that's a great way of putting it. A good teacher teaches you how to avoid mistakes. A great teacher teaches you how to fix them. Rafi's Dad sounds like a great teacher! And I think the feeling of needing to have everything planned beforehand, that's a fear of making mistakes speaking; because of not being able to believe that one can fix mistakes once they happen. It's true, though, that some mediums are extremely difficult to fix mistakes with, such as wire-work (because if you overwork the wire, it snaps), and if a mistake is made, you have to throw it away and start again. But that *still* isn't the end of the world, because the work you put in to the first version, you learned stuff from it (even if it is learning what *not* to do) and that learning you bring to the next version. Another thing, people are different; some people stress out because they don't have a plan, and some people are happier when they don't have a plan. (J versus P in the Meyers-Briggs personality typing system, if you're curious). In regard to not having a plan and not knowing the desired outcome, well, that's when you play, isn't it? There have been times when I've sat looking at the screen for one of my digital pieces (digital art done with a fluid-art base is one of my things) and I have no idea what I will do with it, so I play around with colours, and I play and I play and I play, and suddenly something beautiful comes out, that I could never have planned for. And sometimes I stop at that point because it feels complete, and sometimes I go on in a more directed fashion because the whatever-it-was sparked an idea that was the beginning of something. Commissions... I haven't done commissions as such, but I've participated in exchanges, where each participant creates a work for one of the other participants (kind of like a Secret Santa for creatives) and that is like a commision, in that one is making a work *for* someone, and by golly I love the challenge of that. Kind of less stressful than an actual commission, because nobody is paying you money for it, but still that mix of exciting and scary and outside-your-comfort-zone. But please, no, I don't want to be *terrified* ! That gets into paralysed-with-fear territory. Rafi: "Sometimes it becomes a crap-turd golden nugget." LOL!

Thank you both.

Crap Turd Golden Nugget is priceless. OMG in so many ways lol. I am also in respect of being terrified as part of the process. Love your commission Rafi, I have never thought of doing couples with their spirit animals. How cool is that? Most of the time I have a bit of a concept of what I am looking to explore, but that is all. I actually write to my Muse what I want help in exploring and write that on the canvas and then I paint my first layer background as an abstract with three or four colours and let it dry. I find that Ideas jump out at me from the abstract and I have a background started instead of looking at a plain canvas. Sometimes I have themes depending on what I am going through in my personal life like we are a connected, or a journey through healing. My theme this year seems to be learning to fly. With this being Inktober, there are various prompts that look like great fun, but this year I am running on deadlines and can't participate but I think I would like to do that next year. Recently an art friend did a free eye drawing class. 5 minutes a day for five days. I thought hey I have five minutes a day and at the end I was very pleased at how she had taken a fairly complex aspect of the human face and made it a simple to follow step by step process. I wish I had that superpower. I love the variety of how we all create and I love how there is always more room to evolve. Onward and Upward in the Great Adventure!

I have created my greatest work when I am in the darkest places in my life. It relaxes me to dive into art. Someone told me that the reason art calms me is b/c when a person is creating any art the entire nervous system will release. I paint & I love to create jewelry....especially earrings.

I love watching how you create a piece. I sometimes feel as if the steps I take are wrong, or that artists wouldn't as lost as I am to try some ridiculous moves. But watching your videos made me realize that each artist forges and discovers his/her own path through our creativity. We are presented with a situation and our creativity and intuition lead us to make choices and even make up the steps to bring those choices out of us. In my opinion, that's where authenticity lies, not only in art but in life. I tend to oscillate from the three types of MO, but mostly operate from the third one, digging up the piece out of the page or canvas, which fills me with terror but is exhilarating at the same time. Thanks for your content.

I learned something....dark over light can be done. I always put dark down first and detail with light.....cool ;)

Very thanks for your videos, abide by steps and step by step to do and compare to optmize the steps and/or effects to be better is very important

I've listened to this podcast when I worked at first chapter my comics. It was absolutely out of my comfort zone and I created something new. It was VERY terrifying. So thank you for help:)

You guys feel like familiy! Thank you so much!!

Let your heart lead and the rest of your body well fallow... I love how Klee said that you collaborate with your art!

What an amazing artpiece😍😍😍. Wow wow wow. I’m sure the couple loves and treasures it very much

I have two main sketchbooks. The first is for studying, anatomy, flowers whatever. The second is my no judgment book. No matter what I draw in this one I am not allowed to be rude about it to myself. I can erase as much as I like, tear up the paper, do whatever: no judgment. Doing this, I'm more relaxed, I want to use the first so I can create better in the second and I've discovered by accident that I actually like sketching anthromorphic characters. In the beginning of the second the first page notes the books intention and I always glance at it to remind myself. This is a huge help to my anxiety.

Well first thank you both for what you do, and being open about your creative process. I've just a week ago come across you guys and I am going through this at this very moment so through my searching for answers maybe the alga rhythm directed me to you both. First you both are awesome, respect. As for the 3 different creative processes you were talking about, and asking people to comment on. Well i like the third prosess, when i become too familiar with a prosess or technique I get bored and very uneasy. I then cease believing i am an artest, which drives me into the complete unknown and scary world of the unknown. There funnily enough I find my place, and the more i don't know the more creative my work becomes. At the moment I'm painting a 2 meter canvas, I'm doing something I've never done before. I've no idea what the hell im doing, which normally i would have at least a vague idea. I started by putting colors on the canvas at random with no thought or process, then allow what will be will be. This scared me to death and left me feeling really really vulnerable, but challenged me at the same time and I've yet to see the end result. It seems to be picking up momentum, and something is taking form, good or bad is to early to say yet. I've painted professionally for the last 22 years, from canvas work to large scale commissioned murals. But mainly figurative, and edging to surreal. Anyway i felt like i wanted to reply to this video, even if it is a year ago and to thank you guys for what you do. You came at the right time 😁

@Rafiwashere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you John! Well said!

“Collaborative relationship with the art” excellent point. I Never Know where a painting is going to take me. I kinda let the piece speak to me as I go...I listen to it. Commissions r different tho. I know what it needs to b but I trust it will come to me as I go. And that’s why I Love art I don’t need to plan it all out as I used to in my corporate job👍🏻

Been thinking about this. To be a professional it’s easy to think should know but actually it’s knowing it’s possible, finding out how and adapting until happy. Definitely not a linear path step by step. Just trusting. I believe in my natural connection to art and being comfortable among the mistakes as correct them.

knowing what voice your art has...important! Creating that voice....priceless! Priceless that leads to pricing. Stay in tune with your your art. Figure out what you love to create and keep doing that! It might seem repetitive to you, but to us (the world) we will notice subtle growth that you wont! We will see you evolve and love the outcome. What you create is so important...it comes from inside you. Since there is only one you, your work is unique and it belongs to you. Hey Rafi- Hw long did it take for you to get that voice? That special one that sends you to the canvas? Have a good one guys. Love love love the content

Creating while listening...I do all 3, mostly 2 and 3 more and more. I’ve been finding a lot of personal gratification in just letting go and making whatever happens. Keep up the awesomeness ❤️

Thanks for this video and the question providers!!!! It really spoke to me on many levels.... I have a lot of trouble getting started especially when I am not making anything for anyone in particular... (has been going on years since I made anything substantial other than commissioned graphic design work (my other hat)) I am also in the fight of what a piece is supposed to look like before hand as opposed to letting the art work itself and evolve and coming to terms with the end result whatever that might be! Thanks again guys, I follow you religiously! keep up the good work.

I've been drawing a lot of animals I've never drawn before ever lately while using variants on my style, it's a challenge! I generally draw a lot of wolves and foxes!

I spent the last months fighting hard with my art. I never thought of punching the canvas though. That woman's question and about it being easier when she was younger is me exactly! Making art requires constant decision making. I tried working sheerly intuitively and dislike the results. They look better when I preplan, but am open to changes. Im always terrified when I paint. I liken it to stage fright.

Thank you for the video. Love watching your process!!

I meditate- visualize, what the pieces may look like before I start. I also pray about it. I too reminisce some steps. ( jotting down on a todo list). I am a very analytical person, maybe I think it over too much first. Now, I will try your "Just do it!" approach. This pod cast was helpful, that might have cured my road blick. Thank you.

Thank you very much Rafi they are absolutely beautiful I have saved this to my saved videos and as long as there is a KZread I will have this video showing just how hard you worked on these pieces.

Awesome advise, I needed to hear. I’m not afraid to wing it, I’m just disinclined to “art” as of late. Thanks for reminding me I’m a badass😉

U guys just broke down so many barriers for me I was arguing with this inner battle in myself over these exact things 😂💗 much love

Awesome paintings! Always motivating! Thank you!

I started painting by copying street finger painters on tiles then moved to using brushes. You've just reminded me to go back to using my hands to get amazing results. Thanks. This piece is as usual brilliant. Cheers from Australia.

Thank you. That was very psycho-therapeutic. I have worried my way through life. Sometimes I imagine that I will get to the Afterlife, and there will be a mass debriefing of everyone. We will all be let into the secret-- "Nobody knew what they were doing. Some of you were just better bullshit artists than the rest of you." Whereby, I will be immensely P-Oed at myself, for wasting my time on Earth being tied in knots. If I can absorb your advice here, maybe it won't take me an entire lifetime to get past it.

Thank you for this...so perfect for me right now!

Quality video...so much knowledge here...true life process in the creation process...Love it ..Love your Art work...Staying real rafi n klee...faith and fear colide in creating...you guys are helping so many people...May God Bless You and the work of your hands! Thanks for your dedication of the Art of Loving others!

Love this! Most of the time my work works out the way it is in my head ... but it's still scary getting there (and excited!) xx

Really awesome advice and cool paintings! Cool to see it all come together.

Had you not mentioned that you were working on a commission, I could have sworn you were painting yourself and Klee - with the blue flame and the red flame representations.

Hey Rafi.....thank you for the decisions on "to do or not to do" on commissions.....That solved an forever question for me! Thanks

Love the piece and techniques! I feel the same way about commissions. Thank you for sharing your point of view 😊

It was fascinating to hear you talk about this because I work in a similar way. I have to remain flexible because of the material I work with. I make a sculpture out of clay but I add a peice of wet leather. As the leather dries it changes in way that I can't predict so I have a vague idea of what I will get but I can't fully predict what it will look like once its done. It also depends on the season, the humidity and the temperature. The faster the leather dries the less change I have to pull out details. I like being surprised and have learned to let the material do its thing. I almost always paint them and it's a similar deal there too. I will go through multiple colors to get it right. I absolutely loved watching your paintings come to life. The textures you achieved are so exciting. I'll bet the people that ordered that commission loved it.

Just winging it on a commission? Oh heck no! That would totally stress me out! All power to you. For me, all my experimentation happens with my personal sketches and art work. Sometimes I post my meanderings on social media where every now and them some one will ask me if I can do a piece in the style of something I've experimented with. For most of my client work I submit a few sketches of ideas so that they know what they are going to get. Of course, being that it is art, there is always a bit of an element of wondering how it's going to turn out. But for the most part, I have a no surprises policy with running my art business. With that, I have a knack of making my clientele very happy, and I get a lot of repeat business.

That's awesome at the end because through half of this I was thinking to myself I need to be out carving I need to be out there this is motivational this is the, hey that looks great, outside world's perspective that I needed while doing my work

I've watched this 3 times and it just isn't loosening up my white nuckles. I paint canvases and bottles. One of my coworkers and his wife love my work. He brought me a gorgeous bottle to paint for him. They have been waiting for months. I'm frozen. It's in my wheelhouse. I adore painting bottles. I just love him. He is always so supportive. If I paint something I'm proud of I love to shoot him a pic. He is supportive and I know I can get confirmation from him. I guess I just want it to be perfect for them. They would never tell me but I would be so sorry if they were just expecting something more. Or better. Or just so different. I have been binge drinking your "you can do it " stuff but I can't jump. I'll keep trying.

@jackmrowan1967

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you just have to let go and do it. My son in law challenged me to draw a specific scene for my daughter. It is her favorite comic scene and I felt it was beyond my skill level. Then he unexpectedly passed away. It took me three years to draw it for her. Every time I started I thought of him and I didn’t want to mess it up, especially since we were very close. She didn’t know he wanted me to draw it for her. All she knew was he had challenged me to draw something special. I finally did it, and my daughter absolutely loves it. As Rafi said, you got this.

@kellyandrews9527

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackmrowan1967 thank you for your personal story. And I do feel more moved to just do it now.

I love this painting, Rafi

I'm listening this as I finish up a work contract oddly, I'm looking forward to some unemployed art time. You guys hit on vital points. I keep getting better even if I have limitations but I need to "lie" to myself that it will be better lol. I See a TON of tutorials by some CRAZY talented people but I can't predict perfect methodical outcome. I do want to start a YT channel but it's going to just be a time lapse of the madness but editing out all the procrastinating.

Wonderful! James

What a great video! I needed this today.

Great discussion and the commissioned piece turned out great!

Love these podcasts, it’s 01:00 am here so I’m using it to sleep atm, but relisten what I missed on transit to work 😂 Never this early so I had to comment!

I wish I could paint as fast as Rafi.

Yay, Cafe Bustelo coffee...cans!

Great podcast it really helps me reground myself

Coming up next on Squawk Box, "i fuchunked my life up". Rafi Perez, who was consummated to the song "Shake My Sillies Out", has the number entrepreneur book in Palo Alto for 36 six weeks running! He is here to talk about this phenom of a book in 2 minutes! Klee: Get me out of here! why is he yelling!?!?! aaaaaargggh! Rafi: wooah! what the?

Love you two!!!paint a turd🤣..positive, uplifting and thankyou🤗❤🙏🤝🤜🤛

Really great podcast 🙏🙌 thanks

Ha! Currently working on a commission that I procrastinated all morning to begin, and I'm extra panicking through the "ugly phase" (It's watercolour so I can't cover up or fix things easily... augh!!!) So uhhh I'm gonna move on to the background for a lil' bit instead

I'm a new sub, I think I'm gonna like it here 💜

Even when I am “following” a lesson I just can’t follow to the letter. I don’t like producing art which looks like another artists, even though it could potentially help me to understand the technique better. I have sometimes produced art which looks like the teaching artist but I don’t like it lol it makes me feel uncomfortable that it’s not my art, even if I see a little of me in it. But it can be good fun experimenting with other people’s process T x

I love ur art work and I doing art too and want to have my own Studio someday when I have the Money

Am I seeing this right?! Does your easel flip/twist around?! 🤯🤯🤯🤯 WHERE can I get one like this!?!!

@Rafiwashere

2 жыл бұрын

I built it. I'll be releasing free plans for one on my website by the end of the year.

@Lacroix999

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rafiwashere oh neat! Thanks!

20:00 I cook everything w/o a recipe, unless it's in my personal cookbook because I spent time to perfect. Skim new recipes for proportions. Death to taco packets☠️

🌟🙏👍🏻

do something that scares you every day... : ) i took a commission and I'm also drawing a mag cover!!!!

"just fa-chunk that sucker" love it!

I gotta ask what kind of easel is that - that spins 360 degrees??? That's pretty cool... Awesome paintings and advice as always!

@Rafiwashere

Жыл бұрын

I built it.

@ErichMillerTV

Жыл бұрын

@@Rafiwashere That’s awesome! Can I put in an order for one?? Haha

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Hi, I stumbled upon your youtube videos a little while ago and I LOVE you two! I have a question. I used to paint 35 yrs ago.... I started painting again for a year now. But I've been signing my paintings Nicki. Not my real name. My real name is too long to sign. Have you seen this before? Is this something I should do or should I just sign my name? I will be exposing some paintings in December for 2 months and they are asking for my name. For now I will put Nicki and in parenthesis my full name because I already signed the art work Nicki. But for the future.... what is your experience and knowledge say? Thank you Nicki

@seemsfamiliar3888

3 жыл бұрын

Rafi is a shortened version of his name. Does that help?

@dominiquefregeau2848

3 жыл бұрын

@@seemsfamiliar3888 Hi, thanks for the info. Although Nicki is not really a shorter version of my name.... I'll think about it some more. For now I'll continue with Nicki.