The Crazy Journey of Artemis 1
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In this video I'm talking about the crazy journey of Artemis 1 and why it took such a weird route to the moon. Getting to the Moon is no easy task. In fact, despite the Moon being 500 times closer, it takes more energy to land on the Moon than it does to land on Mars. Every rocket that goes to the Moon aims to follow the most energy efficient route (depending on the mission.) The goal with Artemis 1 for example, was to send the Orion capsule around the Moon to test out all of its systems. The goal with the Apollo missions however, was to land humans on the Moon and return them to Earth. So why did Artemis 1 take such a weird route to the Moon? Stick around and find out.
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00:00 The Journey of Artemis 1
00:31 How to Get to the Moon
01:18 What is Delta V?
02:33 Apollo Moon Missions
03:52 How the Moon Captured Orion
06:41 How Did Orion Return to Earth?
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@stap1796
Жыл бұрын
cant say but 2024 seems to be as we launched artemis1 perfectly and thankyou for this video i m not finding any detail or simulation of journey of orion spacecraft
@Casonplayz
Жыл бұрын
Late 2023 maybe
@sauravanand6727
Жыл бұрын
what are the chances of winning a giveaway
@thomaswade3072
Жыл бұрын
Today is basically 2023 in the scheme of things. We're 11 days from it. Given that this project started in 2012, and the mission was supposed to originally launch in 2017, then in 2022 August had a failure, September had a failure, then launch day had a near-failure. I think it's going to be start of 2024 at least for Artemis 2. And there's a solid chance even the contractor-made space suits will not be ready at all in 2024 to put people back on the lunar surface for Artemis 3.
@Zuko_plays
Жыл бұрын
Hello, Zuko here.
I would like to thank Scott Manley and KSP for letting me understand every single one of the terminologies in this video that would have flown over my head otherwise.
@IIIRotor
Жыл бұрын
some of those did try do do close approaches to my head, in an effort to land, but then got flung out into outer space... 🚀🛰📡
@AliensKillDevils.
Жыл бұрын
Artemis 1 was dragged back by Aliens. No Moon mining, please. Moon does NOT self-rotate. Moon is holo. Moon gives light at night to help grow vegetables and fruits by 20%. This helps to reduce famine and wars on Earth. If Moon is mined, it will be punctured and shrink like a broken flat basketball. It cannot spread light to the surface of the Earth like a convex mirror. It will ONLY reflect to tiny dots on Earth like a concave mirror. There are invisible structures around Moon to keep the Moon inflated. The inside of the Moon is hollow, like a basketball or soccer. The frequent in and out of Moon rovers, orbiters, and spacecrafts will puncture the structure and destroy the Moon. Earth will have more wars and famine and more inequality. Artemis 1 was dragged back by Aliens. No Moon mining, please. Moon does NOT self-rotate. Moon is holo. Moon gives light at night to help grow vegetables and fruits by 20%. This helps to reduce famine and wars on Earth. If Moon is mined, it will be punctured and shrink like a broken flat basketball. It cannot spread light to the surface of the Earth like a convex mirror. It will ONLY reflect to tiny dots on Earth like a concave mirror. There are invisible structures around Moon to keep the Moon inflated. The inside of the Moon is hollow, like a basketball or soccer. The frequent in and out of Moon rovers, orbiters, and spacecrafts will puncture the structure and destroy the Moon. Earth will have more wars and famine and more inequality.
@CrossfeetGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@jerrytoonsz665 except there is no "Return To VAB" after messing up the staging.
@CrossfeetGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@jerrytoonsz665 Nowadays it's automated. So, yes. Installing mods is ironically the most "realistic" way to experience this game.
@-FutureTaken-
Жыл бұрын
@@CrossfeetGaming and a craft can be affected by multiple different gravitational fields at once (unless youre using that one mod)
Thousands of hours in KSP Enhanced and studying and never understood gravity assists like I did after you explained it so simply! Fantastic video!
@molybdaen11
Жыл бұрын
Then how did you explored moho?
@davidfordyoyoguy
Жыл бұрын
@@molybdaen11 Can't remember, but probably unrealistic amounts of delta V! Probably time to go again!
@molybdaen11
Жыл бұрын
@@davidfordyoyoguy I only went there once myself. The rocket was a monster build to lose weight while on the flight and build in Orbit because it was to huge. All stock parts by the way. I made it to moho (fast little bugger) and back but it took hours of real time. I am sure Scott is laughing with his tiny probes.
@ox3870
Жыл бұрын
@@molybdaen11 Orbital maneuver orbital construct and lots of NERVA engine
@crusanosicus562
Жыл бұрын
If you have ksp on pc, you may be interested in a mod called principia, it adds stuff like Lagrange points
4:48 This is the first time I've understood the basic way a gravity assist works. Thank you for the simple and helpful explanation.
@monsieurouxx
Жыл бұрын
Now you make me want to watch. Will I finally be able to _not_ have to brute-force all my planetary transfers in KSP? ;-)
@sfguzmani
Жыл бұрын
@@monsieurouxx you clicked the video just to comment and not to watch it?
@monsieurouxx
Жыл бұрын
@@sfguzmani it's the other way around : As a space fan I click on most space videos, but stop watching when I see that Musk is involved. I don't support dictatorships.
@ebonaparte3853
9 ай бұрын
@@monsieurouxxYou don’t have to like the man, but you have to admire his company. The way they’re approaching space flight is revolutionary.
Best explanation I have heard of the Oberth effect yet! I have been a spaceflight enthusiast for a long time, and its usually hard to understand orbital mechanics without playing KSP, or Spaceflight Simulator for years. I will use that analogy to explain it to my friends a lot!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I am so glad that you enjoyed the video and my explanation :)
@history-jovian
Жыл бұрын
I will also thank him for giving me something new to try, it can help me with a new crewed landing in SFS.
@axurios_
Жыл бұрын
@@history-jovian i dokt think they added gravity assists to ss yet tho so that would probably make things harder
@dontclickonmyprofilepictur9786
Жыл бұрын
@@axurios_ can you explain what exactly is gravity assist because I dont really understand
@docufreak1
Жыл бұрын
Trying to figure out how combustion is happening in the vaccum of space.
4:25 Caught me off guard 😂😂
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
LOL I couldn't help myself.
@ForzaItalia1010
23 күн бұрын
Lmao 🤣 I paused here just to check if comments have gone mad with this
Great analysis. I was born in '68. Too young at 4 years old to remember anything about Apollo 17 in '72. Apollo 12 was my favorite Apollo mission. Three buddies going on a road trip to the moon, "dancing" in zero gravity to "Sugar, Sugar" and nailed the pinpoint landing. Add to that Conrad letting Bean fly the LM "Intrepid" while they were on the backside of the moon on their way back up to dock with Gordon in "Yankee Clipper". I pity the fools that don't believe we went to the moon. Never underestimate what our scientists and engineers can build when given the resources and the skills and bravery of the astronauts. I hope I get to see them land on the moon again before I die. Cheers.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this! So glad that you enjoyed the video and hoping we get to see another moon landing in our lifetime also! Cheers!
@graveyardshift6691
Жыл бұрын
Artemis 1 is only our first test to going back to the moon. If you can make it to 2025 and all continues to go well, Artemis 3 is scheduled to be the first mission to land on the moon in our lifetimes. Hang in there! We're almost back!
Great video! Just a small correction, the Oberth effect does not increase your delta-v, that is constant. What it does do, is increase your thrust *power*. Power is equal to velocity times thrust (dot product of 2 vectors). At higher speeds, the change in your energy after a burn is higher than at low speeds, here let's put some numbers into it. KE = 1/2 m v^2 Imagine you are a 1kg object traveling at 1m/s, that gives it a Kinetic energy of 0.5 Joules. If you it speed up by 1m/s, it is now going 2m/s, giving it an energy of 2 J. That is an increase of 1.5 Joules. Now, imagine that the same object is going at 100m/s, giving it an energy of 5000 Joules. Then we speed it up by 1m/s, making it go 101m/s, giving it 5100.5 J. That is an increase of 100.5 Joules. Our delta-v (change in velocity) was the same in both cases, 1m/s. But our delta-E (change in Energy) was higher when we were going faster. This also applies to slowing down of course. This is the Oberth effect, a rocket engine has more power the faster it is going, because it gives a constant acceleration, but changes in speed while you are going faster change your energy faster, the rate of this change is what we call power.
This video really helped me understand how space travel can be affected by just simply moving closer or further away from a planet/moon, you explain it so well!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! So glad you enjoyed the video!
@FabledGentleman
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the movie Gravity, which James Cameron called "The most realistic space movie ever made". Apparently he didn't see Apollo 13 lol. In gravity you have satellites that blow up and debris circling the earth, and as the movie describes, once the debris has passed, it will circle the earth and come back again in 90 minutes. But this is not possible because if the debris travels so fast that it can circle the earth and come back to hit them in 90 minutes, the orbit of the debris would be further out. That movie had so many mistakes in it, holy crap. Like when George Clooney has some weird force acting upon him, that seem to ignore Sandra Bullock xD
@duramaxdad
Жыл бұрын
Gravity stops working underwater. Gravity pulls the moon towards the earth, pulls the oceans towards the moon, holds us to the earth and can’t b recreated in science. However the theory is in fact relative
@FabledGentleman
Жыл бұрын
@@duramaxdad You need to start eating vitamins man, you have average room temperature IQ.
I have always been fascinated by the wonders of space since I was a kid. There was a point where I gave up on the dream, but seeing what we can accomplish today, and knowing that (hopefully haha) I've got years ahead of me, I might actually be able to go to space on day :)
@Babayaga-pf5dt
Жыл бұрын
Good luck, l hope you make it. 👍
@molybdaen11
Жыл бұрын
Bring your long underwear!
@Blackstar-ti4py
Жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming
This video is very satisfying to watch and also both extremely informative and very well illustrated. Well done Primal Space. It is a pleasure for our eyes and ears. Bravo! Look forward for more!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words and I'm so glad that you enjoyed watching as much as I enjoyed creating this one! Can't wait to share what's coming next!
The graphics for this episode were top notch. Love the detail on Apollo and Artemis spacecraft.
4:25 You got me there 😂😂😂
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I just couldn't help it
Is it just me or hearing the Artemis 1 roaring gave me goosebump and is very satisfying to listen.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
You're definitely not alone!
This is a great video with fantastic visualizations of an otherwise difficult to understand topic; can't stress enough that this was a great job. Just a small correction: the delta V requirements for launch are usually more than double what you listed---more on the order of 10,000 m/s (low earth orbits have an orbital speed of roughly ~8,000 m/s). Really puts into perspective why launch vehicles like the SLS and Saturn V need to be so damn huge.
It’s amazing how NASA figured out all of these factors on the Apollo missions without launching any rockets before. There are so many moving pieces all perfectly and mathematically aligned to take us there again and again, it never ceases to amaze.
@maozedung7270
Жыл бұрын
38 / 5.000 i think you believe also in the easter bunny
@GamerGod-fp1tj
Жыл бұрын
its amazing, but not special, if you understand what i mean
@maozedung7270
Жыл бұрын
they figured out how to fool the whole world. But they archived many other thing in the Earths orbit. Moonflights are not useful just a risk and waste.
@GamerGod-fp1tj
Жыл бұрын
@@maozedung7270 you anti-space flight or something?
@maozedung7270
Жыл бұрын
@@GamerGod-fp1tj Hello, no but we should not go behind a certain level. We face to many problems here.
3-body orbits sure are a lot more complicated than the simplified ones in Kerbal Space Program😅
@thomasw4422
Жыл бұрын
With a few mods, you can get kerbal to show you paths like these
@thespacepeacock
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasw4422 that would be Principia, right? i've heard of it but never played with it
I have never expected so much KSP skills will help with real life understanding of space missions.
I love these trajectory videos! How about one explaining the math involved in planning an insertion?
I've always wondered about orbital dynamics. Very informative. Interesting they would use a grav assist and retrograde orbit
People always joke about rocket scientists but it's explanations like this that put into perspective how smart the people are that come up with all this stuff in the first place and actually make it happen.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Just learning about it all puts my head in a spin sometimes. I can't imagine the minds the come up with it all! Pretty amazing.
Thank you so much for explaining this with simplified graphics! Makes it easier for us non-rocket scientists to understand. Subscription added 🙂👍🏿
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
So glad that you enjoyed the video and my explanation! Thank you for subscribing and welcome to the primal space community!
Amazing video man, its really cool to learn about grav assists, the oberth effect and more being used in real life (and a really good analogy for the oberth effect). Also did you animate the flight paths in the vid? Its really good 👍
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that and I'm so glad that you enjoyed the video and my explanations. I really had a great time putting this one together. Cheers and happy holidays!
Interesting fact the Apollo command and service modual combo was designed to be able to make direct return to Earth from the Lunar surface, this would have been it's only task with a whole other stage doing the landing. The use of the service module engine for lunar insertion and trans Earth injection were designed after the vehicle was finalized.
@maozedung7270
Жыл бұрын
i think you believe in the easter bunny
Another factor for Apollo was that at the time we were pushing the limits of what the technology was able to calculate in terms of orbital mechanics. They had to keep things simple to narrow the variables involved. With modern technology that’s less of a challenge and we can make more efficient choices on where to allocate mass.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
We have definitely come much further thanks to those advancements.
4:45 Very good and cool video! However, a small correction, gravity assist mattered little in this case. Gravity assist alters the craft's velocity vector and transfers planet/moon's orbital momentum to the craft, however that only matters if the craft is doing a flyby and leaves the dominant gravity influence of the planet/moon to go somewhere else. If it stays in orbit of the planet/moon, then it doesn't gain anything in relation to the planet/moon. From the reference frame of the Moon, Orion didn't speed up nor slowed down during its flyby, so it's irrelevant from which direction it approached. However, Oberth effect did play a huge role in reducing the delta-v needed for orbital insertion. A retrograde gravity assist is used to gain a free return trajectory (or less delta-v intensive maneuver) back to Earth if anything goes wrong.
@sntslilhlpr6601
Жыл бұрын
Well said. It was a decent way to explain gravity assists, but it's completely irrelevant for what Orion was doing. It actually takes more fuel to get a retrograde capture because TLI requires more delta V to get to that point and you don't get that fuel back on the other end. But like you said, it's worth it for the potential free return (which saved Apollo 13's lives). The explanation of the Oberth effect was just straight-up wrong too, but that's a really hard one to simplify without just resorting to showing the equations so I hesitate to criticize too hard. Closest thing to real life I can think of is how we're taught in drivers ed that a car's speed and its stopping distance is not a linear relationship, it's exponential. But that's also a terrible analogy trying to equate stopping distance with total orbital energy...
@krissp8712
Жыл бұрын
If it is not a gravity assist because there was no momentum transfer, is there a proper name for such "velocity vector adjusting" maneuvers?
@krissp8712
Жыл бұрын
@@sntslilhlpr6601 I can see the explanation at 7:05 ("gravitational pull") being wrong but the walkway example of the Oberth effect seems accurate. I'm not entirely sure I understand your braking example - initially I had assumed it was just a mv² thing increasing the energy to be dissipated, but are you actually trying to say that in terms of work, trying to stop in a shorter distance requires way more braking force? Or that at low velocities, the same amount of braking force has less decelerative effect?
@falkihr
Жыл бұрын
As far as I understand there _was_ a moment transfer, but the point is that the direction from where Orion approached didn't matter since the goal was to enter Moon's orbit. Same amount of fuel would be expended if it did the prograde capture vs. the retrograde capture. So the direction of the approach didn't "slow down" the craft when observed from Moon's reference frame - the only frame that matters when you want to enter orbit around a body. Term "gravity assist" is used when the vessel executes a flyby to go towards another body. Then, when viewed from the Sun's reference frame, vessel indeed did speed up or slowed down depending on the approach.
Damn. Your Oberth effect explanation is by far the best one I've ever seen. Great Video!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! So glad you like it!
Going to the Moon and beyond is absolutely crazy, to me. Just imagining the journey is just so FUN and breathtaking!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Pretty amazing to think about. I would love to experience those views for myself!
Apollo missions also used a free-return trajectory (or close to it) just in case something went wrong. "Free-return" means exactly what it says on the tin: The capsule isn't actually on a trajectory to orbit the Moon, but rather it is aimed for a really high orbit of Earth. You have to do an additional burn near the Moon in order to get the capsule into lunar orbit. Without that additional action (say, if the engine fails) the capsule will return to Earth without having to spend any more fuel.
@GadgetNeil
Жыл бұрын
Is that what Apollo 13 did? I know they were supposed to land on the moon, but due to the problem mid-flight, they returned without having landed on the moon. So, am I correct in understanding that is exactly what you are talking about: the free-return trajectory was used because of what went wrong?
@maozedung7270
Жыл бұрын
Apollo never happened on the moon and there will not be any manned ship to the moon either.
@smeeself
Жыл бұрын
@@GadgetNeil Yep That's right. And a good thing too.
@kb3byu
8 ай бұрын
And a couple of white knuckle course corrections on the way back
The real reason Orion only briefly came near the moon was because a loss of the craft would have ended the program that is already billions over budget and years behind.
4:27 😂LMAO
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
I just had to haha
I tried to recreate this in KSP, with a 70km Munar orbit. Direct insertion left me me with 5801 m/s, doing the Artemis maneuver left me with 5823 m/s. Some 20 m/s saved, not very significant, is it? For comparison: getting into Low Kerbin Orbit costs approx. 3400 m/s, Munar transfer burn is approx. 855 m/s
What a great explanation of the Artemis orbit. I'd seen it explained elsewhere but you did it the best. Thanks!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I am so glad that you enjoyed the video and found my explanation helpful. I really enjoyed putting this one together.
I love all of you videos primal space your videos are amazing. I would also like to see how all the parts of the iss came up. And you animations are the BEST! Love them.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a kind comment. I'm so glad that you enjoy the content. I really love to make it as well and I'm looking forward to sharing what's coming next!
Thanks for a clear and understandable explanation of the Artemis flight mechanics.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it!
“Neil Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon. I am the first man to piss his pants on the moon.” ― Buzz Aldrin
I like how we go from serious presenter voice to “that’swhatshesaidhahaha”
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
You’ve been randomly selected among my giveaway winners 👆!
I am looking forward to studying a career related to space exploration and your videos are perfect. Not only understandable and clear information, but it also transmits passion and interest. Love it!
@AalapShah12297
Жыл бұрын
Have you heard of Kerbal Space Program
Fantastic explanation. But will next missions do the same pattern, or this long one was exclusive for extended instrument testing?
@abstraconcept
5 ай бұрын
No, this is the only DRO planned for Artemis. Artemis II will have a simple free return trajectory (akin to Apollo 8 without ever going into lunar orbit) Artemis III and later will travel to NRHO, a complex orbit where the capsule is closest when passing over the north pole, and farthest when passing over the south pole. The plan is to have a lunar space station in this NRHO orbit as well.
Looks like the Apollo missions worked well without computers. To make it more complicated and taking longer takes a computer.
@alexplosion_ITA
8 ай бұрын
In reality they had 4 computers running in parallel for redundancy. And one even got damaged by a lighting strike
@Haz0052-tu7rr
5 ай бұрын
@@alexplosion_ITA Wasn’t that on Apollo 12?
KSP Players like: "Yes yes, a direct insertion into distant lunar retrograde orbit using the absolute minimum Δv, we've all done it"
0:39 Why is that? Shouldn’t it be easier to land on the Moon with low gravity? Thank you for these great videos!
@unvergebeneid
Жыл бұрын
I also would've liked some more explanation. Maybe the fact that Mars allows Sone amount of aerobreaking plays a role. Or they just meant it's easier to get into a Mars _orbit_ than to _land_ on the Moon. No idea.
@SpaceflightRocketShorts
Жыл бұрын
@@unvergebeneid yeah, I was thinking the same about aerobraking, since they could use parachutes while you can’t on the moon
@originalmin
Жыл бұрын
Mars has an atmosphere which will significantly slow a spacecraft down, whereas the Moon does not, so it needs to burn fuel all the way down.
@samfisher874
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish this was explained more too. They specifically say "land" which must mean they're including aerobraking at Mars with a heat shield and parachutes. If they said "land and return" it should require a lot more dV to go to Mars and back. It should also take more dV to propulsively capture in Mars orbit without aerobraking.
@FlorisJack
Жыл бұрын
It takes more energy to go from the earth to the moon than from the moon to mars. Perhaps this is what they intended to say. It's untrue the way they formulated it, as you need more energy to go out of the "gravitational well" from both the earth and the moon than just from the earth.
The moving walkway analogy for the Oberth effect is really good, props if you came up with that
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm so glad that you found the explanation helpful!
Why I never heard ANYTHING about Artemis and I watch vids on space and astronomy every day?
@wesleyglenn6603
6 ай бұрын
I watched it on and off live. I have an app that tells me when something leaves our atmosphere (obviously not including secret launches from various countries) probably because nasa doesn't do a good job at advertising. Space x loves to get us hyped. I didn't know artemis was launching till shortly beforehand. Shit just appeared in my app, tho i bet if i went back to unconfirmed launches, i might have seen it
BEST explanation of so many things about this flight that NASA didn’t seem to think ordinary people would wonder about!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So glad that you enjoyed the video as much as I enjoyed making it! Cheers!
Basically nasa just went "work smarter not harder" here
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Haha that's one way to look at it for sure!
Thanks for this. Had been pondering the Artemis trajectory all during the flight - now I get it (I think)!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment. So glad that you enjoyed the video and found it helpful!
That was one of the best explanations for gravity assists I've seen
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. That means a lot!
This was exceptionally well explained. Great job.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad that you enjoyed it!
The burn to leave orbit makes total sense. It’s like accelerating down a hill in a car… which directly translates to this as the down the hill is the gravity well.
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
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That was a very clear explanation of the orbital mechanics, beautifully illustrated.
shoutuot to kerbal space program for teaching me what 90% of these words mean
@primalspace
3 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
All I see is among us in the thumbnail lol
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 and I can't unsee it now
What did you use to make the animations, they looked fantastic!!
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
You’ve been randomly selected among my giveaway winners 👆..
This is a good video explanation on what its actually doing, thank you for that! Most videos just kinda pass right through without actually saying whats going on and why and how.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So glad you enjoyed the video and my explanation. Lots to cover in such little time! haha
I love physics. i am in no way smart enough for this. But I love learning about this stuff.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
So glad! I really enjoy putting these videos together.
Absolutely love your videos mate, keep them up.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So glad that you enjoy the content!
" That's What she said " at 4:25 is hilarious 😂
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
haha thanks. Couldn't help myself!
I'm genuinely surprised that a video this informational entertained me, especially since it's relevant since this mission was fairly recent. I look forward to seeing the next upload.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! So glad that you enjoyed it!
Hope humankind reaches the Moon in my lifetime.
@JacobLM42
Жыл бұрын
🤡
@steveross8364
Жыл бұрын
@@JacobLM42 Witty. At least half.
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
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@gamingdevil1236
Жыл бұрын
Artemis 2 is scheduled for 2024, the mission is similar to Artemis 1 but it will be with a human crew, Artemis 3 is scheduled for 2025 and it will land on the Moon.
@steveross8364
Жыл бұрын
@@gamingdevil1236 So maybe then 🤞🏻
That's a really good and informative video you made. I wonder, when NASA will lunch their Artemis 2 (Probably May 2024) and Artemis 3, would they follow the same route ?
@jrc1606
Жыл бұрын
Artemis 2 should be following the same route but with people. If the SLS for Artemis 3 launches then we might have the Lunar Gateway space station by this point which would be placed around the moon in the distant elliptical orbit shown at 5:32. Orion will dock with the Gateway and then the astronauts will move to the lander (that will already be docked on the Gateway) and begin their descent on the moon. If the Gateway is not completed by this point, then the moon lander will be placed alone in this elliptical orbit waiting for Orion. After the mission on the moon is done, then the moon lander will launch and dock with the Lunar Gateway (or Orion if the Gateway is not yet ready) and then Orion will take the astronauts back to Earth. As of now, it is not known whether the lunar lander will be immediately disposed after completing the mission or whether it will instead re-fuel and wait for Artemis 4. Artemis 4 should be the first launch of the SLS 1B. Orion is planned to follow the same trajectory but this time it will take a new habitat module that will be permanently placed on the Lunar Gateway for future missions. This module should be able to extend the amount of time astronauts can stay around the moon. Artemis 5 will be similar but is planned to instead send two modules with Orion instead of one. A refueling tank for the Gateway and a moon rover. This will mark the end of the Artemis missions unless new missions are added. Who knows, maybe by this point we'll be confident enough to go to Mars.
@kirkkerman
Жыл бұрын
@@jrc1606 Artemis II will actually just be using a free-return trajectory for safety reasons, IIRC
Quick question: At 2:06, you say that Orion has less than half of the delta-v. However, earlier you mentioned that delta-v only depends on the route. I assume you meant that Orion requires half the energy to achieve the delta-v compared to Apollo. However, isn't that once again, dependent on the route? Thanks for the clarification!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
The delta-v required is the same for any specific route. And so for a specific route to the Moon, any rocket, no matter the size, mass or thrust has to be capable of that delta-v. But not every rocket is capable of that amount of delta-v. Think of it a bit like this. In order to get from one point to another, the distance is a fixed and known amount that doesn't change. One car may be able to make that journey but the other car may run out of fuel before it gets there. This isn't exactly what's happening with delta-v but it should illustrate how the delta-v required for a specific route and the delta-v capability of a rocket aren't related.
I'm curious about 0:33 and why it takes more energy to go to the moon compared to Mars.
@ThomasKundera
6 ай бұрын
My guess: Going to te Moon is almost liberation speed (which is what's needed for Mars. So the difference is small. However, landing on Mars can be done by parachutes (that takes no energy), while landing on the Moon *needs* rockets. And that's very costly, massively over the speed difference.
@c4rb0n40
3 ай бұрын
Its really not about the distance. Its about the energy it takes TO LAND on the celestial bodies, and other factors. The distance doesnt matter too much, because in vacuum you dont lose any speed, so you, regardless of distance, use up the same amount of fuel.
@NicolasPare
3 ай бұрын
@@c4rb0n40 Thank you, that makes sense. I think it also means that the faster you want to get somewhere will cost you energy twice; once to accelerate out and again to slow down once you get there.
@c4rb0n40
3 ай бұрын
@@NicolasPare yeah, you are absolutely correct.. acceleration by itself consumes a lot of fuel.. for example, the voyager uses a thruster ehich wouldnt even propell anything on earth.. yet over time in a vacuum, it can accelerate the probe to huge speeds..
@c4rb0n40
3 ай бұрын
@@NicolasPare the thing is also, that for every.. even single kilogram, you would need tens of liters of fuel more
This was incredibly well-explained. Excellent work!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I am so glad that you enjoyed the video. I really had a great time making this one.
Thumbnail looks Sussy.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
if you don't mind, may I ask you what program did you use for this video?(drawing things)
Hopefully one day this will be the first step to be able to have a vacation on the moon
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
How amazing would that be? I want to go!
Thank you very much for the easy to understand explanations! 😊
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! I am so glad that you enjoyed the video !
Amongus on the moon
It´s like a massive slingshot around the moon to get back. It´s empresive how we can take advantage of these forces. It´s almost science fiction.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Very impressive. I have a lot of fun learning all about it!
The field of astronomy and astrophysics is so fascinating and breath taking. And it feels so good that you (who is interested in astronomy) are the choosen one to love and understand the universe! And channels like Primal space make it really easy to understand difficult concepts! Thanks!
Why Thumbnail AMOGUS
@Puffye_
Ай бұрын
🤨
@britishporygon4678
Ай бұрын
You got the whole squad laughing
@Carlang29
Ай бұрын
i cannot unsee it now
@mr.boomguy
25 күн бұрын
Eh... barely
@Lumineonxx
24 күн бұрын
I CAN’T UNSEE IT
AMONG US
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't intentional I swear 😂
@solarkurenai
Жыл бұрын
@@primalspace XD I had to lol
I enjoy how clearly you explain the different concepts concerning the mission. Great video
Thank you, good video. You answered questions I had about the mission maneuvers.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So glad that you enjoyed the video and that I was able to provide you with the answers you were looking for!
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@LeeseTheFox
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely sus
Among us
Thanks for your work. I know how hard it is, to create episodes like this. In order to make interesting video, with correct information in it - you have to sit and make big research - going trough tons of sites, literature and encyclopaedias. After that, most of the info is unusable at all - you have to choose most interesting parts for further plot of the video. Then, video editing comes - which is consuming large amount of energy - hours and hours of editing - u have to sit at one place so many time. It’s easier to make dumb video on tik tok and get million views. So, we have to appreciate the work that has been done by such a channels like Primal Space.
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a kind comment. These videos are certainly a lot of work, but I really enjoy making them and it means a lot that even one person enjoys them! I really appreciate the support!
Who else understood all terms and related physics because all those courageous Kerbals that trust in our hands to push their space program
May I ask where you got them pictures of the moon from in this video? @Primal Space
Artemis 1 empty can , not very risky ,,,, Apollo 8 carried three men . Apollo was multitude of times more risky than that empty can Artemis was . The amazing thing is that Apollo was over half a century ago ( 60 years )
@Spaceguy-nineteensixtynine
Жыл бұрын
Why are you making it out like a higher chance of death makes it cool. I’d rather have slightly more boring ride with a largely smaller chance of death than a risky ride with a high chance of death. Apollo being old and dangerous is not a flex.
@grazynazambeanie5963
Жыл бұрын
@@Spaceguy-nineteensixtynine what I'm saying is they have done nothing that wasn't done more that sixty years ago . What is all the fuss about ? Break new ground " but they have flown farthest away earth than ever before , yes, the empty can did fly 460,000 miles away from earth , but Apollo 13 flew 410,000 miles away from earth and it had men in it ,and was a broken space ship , they still made it back .. land on the moon with a manned craft or at least circle the moon with men or women on board then start the hype . Until then they have done nothing that wasn't done to point of becoming boreing over half a century ago . PS they did all that without the aid of computers like we have now .
@SecretRaginMan
Жыл бұрын
@@FemboyModels They said nothing about SpaceX though? Both Apollo and Artemis are NASA missions so . . . ?
@luigi580
Жыл бұрын
You’re making it sound like Artemis is bad for not being risky. Risks are good to take sometimes, but it must be reduced as much as possible when human lives are at stake.
@grazynazambeanie5963
Жыл бұрын
@@luigi580 it's much ado about nothing lol read up about Apollo 8 , Apollo 11 . Not only were the Saturn rockets new , but the computers were new , inputs were in nouns and verbs . And they made it work . That was something to get excited about . This latest flight is just so ho-hum
A very well put together video explaining concepts not so easly understood. Well done!!!
Do you have any animations that just show the orbits? The Artemis animation that showed the 3 bodies was fascinating but short... Same for the others like from the moon's perspective
When they land will there be a blast-crater under the module this time?
@JacobLM42
Жыл бұрын
Same as last time.
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
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It's even harder to get into a near Sun orbit because you are accelerating into the gravity well most of the way. Then you need to slow down or you'll be in a highly elliptical orbit, like a comet.
I'm glad journeys to the moon are just crazy and not INSANE like bbq sliders and engineering techniques
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
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Isn't the gravity assist solution (more time, less fuel) similar to the one used by ISRO's mars mission
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
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NASA has gotten scary good at using slingshot maneuvers to more efficiently use resources. I learned about a proposed orbiter to be sent to the Pluto system that would make use of slingshots to jump between Pluto and Charon and then at the end of the mission the possibility to use one to send it to go check out a third Kuiper Belt Object.
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Жыл бұрын
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So is oberth like one those spinny playground things where if you scrunch to the middle you go faster but if you go spread away from it you slow down , or is that just anti-aerodynamics
@silience4095
Жыл бұрын
Nah, it's about rockets having more power the faster they are. I made another comment explaining it here.
@DragonFruitYTUK
Жыл бұрын
@@silience4095 oh alright lol
Great video, love these. At 4:05 so the Orion spacecraft "almost" brought a visit to the James Webb space telescope at lagrange point 2? L2. Facinating. When you can talk about "almost" with these immense distances in space 😉
The oberth effect was not explain correctly. The reason why it's more efficient to accelerate at low orbit is due to higher kinetic energy having from pulse from the engine rather than having better gravitational assist. It's due to conservation of momentum generates more energy due to higher kinetical energy gain (due to much higher speed)
Amazing and very informative video, space and the engineering and calculations needed to explore it never cease to intrigue me 👏
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! So glad that you enjoyed this video! I really enjoyed putting it together.
1:04 the SLS might be more powerful thrust wise but in what actually matters, which is the payload capacity, the Saturn V still remains and will remain for a long time, the king of rockets because the SLS can set 95 tons into orbit and the Saturn V 145 tons. So in 50 years we lost 50 tons of payload capacity hbt. And starship is also not gonna beat that. As far as i know, its gonna be 100 tons for starship
Hey primal I hope your having a good Christmas break , congrats on the success ! :)
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Really enjoying the holidays this year! All the best to you as well :)
@Offline_Matrix
Жыл бұрын
@@primalspace :)
It's nice to have gimmicky space missions like the Artemis mission now and again to help raise funding from new sectors of the populous. Though, the sooner we can scrap the SLS for a rocket that is not a scam the better.
@originalmin
Жыл бұрын
The SLS isn’t a scam, it’s a jobs program, which is exactly what the Artemis program needs.
Whoa! I never thought that I could understand it very well in a short period of time!
@primalspace
Жыл бұрын
So glad you found the video helpful! I really enjoyed putting this one together.
Wow did not know that Artemis did that. And pretty genius to use gravity as accelerator and decelerator. the same what they did with the voyager missions
@Haz0052-tu7rr
5 ай бұрын
It’s done with basically all interplanetary missions. For example, Bepicolombo, Rosetta, MESSENGER, Mariner 10 etc. Wikipedia has a list of all flybys done actually, in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_flyby#List_of_planetary_flybys
I can’t believe NASA actually did it.
@theconspiracydentist
Жыл бұрын
This time? Or the late 1960's?
@naughtiusmaximus830
Жыл бұрын
@@theconspiracydentist This time although I’m sure they were nervous about Apollo 8.
@JacobLM42
Жыл бұрын
@@theconspiracydentist D u m b a s s.
@theconspiracydentist
Жыл бұрын
@@JacobLM42 please expand on your wisdom.
There is a BIG misconception about gravity assists. The first law of thermodynamics, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another. Gravity assist's can only change the direction (or vector of speed) of an object, there is no energy given or loosen, you will exit a gravity assist at the same velocity that you entered it, just in a different angle/direction or vector of speed. The only way gravity assist's help to save fuel is in the change of vector of speed of an object.
@KayC352
Жыл бұрын
no, gravity assists can give more energy than you went in due to the orbit of the assisting body. The assisting body slows down a little
Would be cool if they got some pictures of the previous landing on the mission.
@Dote_urban
Жыл бұрын
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@smeeself
Жыл бұрын
Which one?