November 17, 1968-the same day as the "Heidi" game in Oakland.

Fogged-up windows? Can you possibly imagine that in perpetually humid South Florida, with perpetually air-conditioned indoor areas? This is just stupid.

I blame Marino for putting up 38 on them.

so we had "condensate gate " 😂😂

Did the Dolphins not have air conditioning in their booth? 5-7 team loses - CONSPIRACY! Come on...

What people call a "curse" I call "the Dolphins having the better team in almost every one of those Miami games". The only real exception was 2013. Also, the Fins won in Cincy 5 straight times from '87-00, was there a curse involved then as well?

@Supersonicspyro

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I assure you that beating the 90s bengals isn't an accomplishment lol

@tylerscott3979

Жыл бұрын

It appears the Dolphins have the curse now. How is that 0-3 season coming along 🤣😂

@LavitosExodius

Жыл бұрын

Except they also lost Super Bowl XXIII which was also in Miami so maybe the city itself and not the team is the curse.

I love the topics you pick for your videos. So much would be lost to history if not for you documenting it here.

@kct1975

Жыл бұрын

I completely agee!

Gets spanked by 24. After spitting the other team 14 points, manages to only score 14 points in the 3 remaining quarters. Literally were at 14-7 at one point. Cheating nothing. Cats got crushed by a better team.

Ken Anderson should be in the Hall of Fame

I don't remember 1983 being so pixelated.

This is football. You play the conditions. No cheating here.

Very funny! 1) If the roles were reversed, and I was rooting for the Dolphins, I'd think something was fishy. 2) After the 1st Quarter, the Dolphins outscored the Bengals 24-14. 3) The Bengals could have turned off the air conditioning. 4) The Bengals could have wiped the windows of the booth. 5) In 1981 the Bengals' season ended at the hands of an upstart quarterback named Joe Montana, who made the Hall of Fame. 6) In 1983 the Bengals' season ended at the hands of an upstart quarterback named Dan Marino, who made the Hall of Fame.

If you can't call the plays from the sidelines, get another job.

I would have smashed those windows before the game even started.

"more then half a century later" --> you need to check your math :D

Cincinnati was not the only ones cursed in the Old Orange Bowl. New England was until the 1985 AFC Championship game in January 1986 and then won again at the end of the 1986 season to clinch the AFC East title

@ReveiwKing999

Жыл бұрын

And then became completely cursed again once the Dolphins moved over to Hard Rock Stadium.

@bobscott2429

Жыл бұрын

Buffalo Bills, too. They beat the Fins in their inaugural meeting at the Orange Bowl in 1966, and didn't win there again until 1983, a record of 0-15-1 during that span.

@stevenbauer4799

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@@bobscott2429 bills didn't beat phins at all during the '70's-0-20. bills were OWNED by phins.

@stevenbauer4799

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lions are cursed at lambeau. 3-28 including playoff loss since '91. lost 24 straight at lambeau at one point. favre 16-0 against lions at lambeau.

@bobscott2429

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@@stevenbauer4799 At Miami AND Buffalo, yikes! Maybe the Bills should have played at a neutral site. (As John McKay once said of his hapless Bucs...or as you say it, Succs)

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 8/9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following: 1. The unusual practice Forrest Gregg had after the Bengals loss to the Dolphins in 1980. 2. How the offensive coordinator for the University of Arizona called a winning effort in the 1986 Aloha Bowl while half-blind.

@sharpieman2035

Жыл бұрын

You can’t say this and not link the videos!

11 minutes into the video and still waiting for anything about cheating.

I didn't know the Bengals had been so inept in Miami and the Dolphins' current home of Miami Gardens (north of Miami) since they got their 1st road win in club history at the Fins' expense at the OB. I don't have enough info to say if someone at the OB (owned and run by Miami's government) cranked the A/C in the Bengals' booth way up on purpose, but something strange was going on there.

You forgot SB XXXIII, which the Bengals lost wait for it….in Miami.

@johngray7297

Жыл бұрын

And remember, they just added new sod right before the game which helped stifle the Bengals superior run game and cost TIm Krumrie their best defender a broken leg.

This game should be dubbed The Man-Made Fog Bowl, with HVAC techs masterfully obscuring the view from the booth. The Bears needed a combination of bizarre weather over Lake Michigan and officials lacking common sense for their game in 1988.

@HurricaneJD

Жыл бұрын

i called it "condensate gate" hehe

Coslet not being able to call a game from the sideline explains a lot about his head coaching career.

A/C condensate gate😂

Why couldn’t someone hook up the tv sets in the booth to the feed of an independent camera on the top of the stadium capturing the game as it happened and if needed, the offense and defense coordinators could zoom in with a joystick to better see the field

Sounds like a window seal failure honestly, happens all the time. An air-conditioned room should not fog the windows when it's hot and humid outside. I lived in Florida for 6 years and never experienced anything like that. But I HAVE seen foggy condensed windows with failed seals though, having also been the son of a professional window tinter for 20 years.

Go bengals and go big blue! Sorry about your Gators 😂🤣😂🤣😂

I would not put this past St Shula to do this.

Fluff! or is it Foggy Fluff? - Lots of work for a nothing burger. Some sweaty Cincy employees setting up the booth: "It's so damn hot here Florida, I'm swaeting my ass off... Hey, we don't want the booth to be too hot during the game... someone go tell the janitor to turn UP the AC"

You should do a video on how the Jets have never beaten the Eagles EVER in their 12 matchups since 1973

@higgy04

Жыл бұрын

Or the Packers have NEVER won in Buffalo (or Orchard Park)

any other Dolphins themed videos in near future?

While the Dolphins made Red Auerbach proud the Bengals should have told officials about the foggy window, which would have forced the Dolphins coaches to leave their booth as well.

@50greatful

Жыл бұрын

I guess Rozelle owe Shula from the snowplow lost the season before against new England

Miami turned off the A/C in the Bengals coaching booth, fogging up the plexiglass so they couldn't see the field and got blown out. Saved you 16 minutes

I feel bad for the Bengals .Throughout their history they have been so damn close and then been door mats,which is a shame.Sadly and undeservedly, they will be second fiddle to Cleveland......goddamn Cleveland ,till they win a Super Bowl!

@altfactor

Жыл бұрын

But will.the Cleveland Browns win a Super Bowl before the Cincinnati Bengals do?

@morghenmurdochlundgren8640

Жыл бұрын

@@altfactor Yeah,the Browns are living thinly on the distant memory of ancient times of success,lol.One can only hope.

@bobholt6217

Жыл бұрын

Lmao, Cleveland hasnt even got to a SuperBowl! The basement is still owned by the mistake by the Lake!

@martinoamello3017

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@@bobholt6217 Not to mention they ONLY made it to the championships because of the Bengals founder, Paul Brown..The same guy whatsiface fired right after multiple championships. It's not like they don't have it coming.. 😅

Just having Dan Marino in 1983/84 was cheating.

The Bengals also lost in Miami when they didn't play the Dolphins.

@zockenmitkasten5419

Жыл бұрын

when was that?

@toddbiesel4288

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@@zockenmitkasten5419 SB XXIII

@jasonpdsi

Жыл бұрын

Heh heh. I'm a Niner fan. I knew exactly what you meant

@josephlucas3099

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t do to well in Detroit or LA either

@zockenmitkasten5419

Жыл бұрын

Oh. Just realised it! I'm Microsoft Explorer slow

One of my fav Monday Night Football stories is from 2003, when due to Wildfires in San Diego, MNF, and the Chargers and Dolphins had less than 24 hours to pack up and move to the Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe.

Yeah, blame the loss on foggy windows, not on the fact that in 1983 the Dolphins had the number one rated defense in the league, and the Defensive Player of the Year in Doug Betters. SMH!! The Dolphins were the defending AFC champs, and would finish the '83 season tied with the 2nd best record in the NFL, and tied with the best record in the AFC at 12-4. Their defense was the legendary "Killer Bees" that had willed the Dolphins to the Super Bowl the previous year, despite having an inept offense, and no clear starter at QB.... But yeah, Cincinnati lost because of the condensation on their windows.

play dirty ....don't get caught

We always need some context before we talk about the subject of the video.

Do a video on the fake spike in 1994 between the Dolphins and the Jests

Use a paper towel and wipe the windows off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think there's much excuse for an OC to be that dependent on viewing from the booth. Not every OC did and does, so it obviously can be done, so it's not a significant disadvantage to calling from the field as it's more a matter of preference.

@darkhobo

Жыл бұрын

Eh. Ita much easier to see what a defense is doing post-snap from the booth than the field. Much harder to count the box. You cant see if that corner is getting iside or outside leverage or whatever. Etc. All those little intricacies that make a huge effect on every play. Just saying, calling plays from the sideline IS much harder. It isnt madden. You cant just call slants and 4 verts all day. Ya know?

@Matt_Fields_29

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@@darkhobo It's harder. But for an NFL oc it should be doable.

@darkhobo

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@@Matt_Fields_29 it is doable. But the parity in the NFL is such that even a slight advantage equates to a huge change in outcomes

@LavitosExodius

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I think what you're missing here is he was not an NFL OC he was a Wide Receivers coach they shoved into the OC job. A Wide Receivers coach mind you that had only been a coach for 3 years at that point and one of those years was as a tight end coach. So major disadvantage probably not for a guy that had been doing it for a while but for a guy that had just been coaching position the year before and just thrown in and still trying to learn the job it can definitely throw a proverbial wrench in the machine. This was not the NFL of today either where you could do that and get away with it this was definitely still the let them season up NFL in his day. So it's unlikely he was planning on being and OC that soon in his career as a coach as well. That being said I tip my hat to him for not blaming it on the fog that would have been the easy way out.

Great video, but an ad a minute is a bit much.

To quote Jesse "The Body" Ventura, "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat."

@bobbyolivas121

Жыл бұрын

That's must be where the Patriots got their motto from!!!

Did you say 3rd straight season the Bengals missed the playoffs ? ? They went to the superbowl in 82 and lost to the 49ers. Ooops

If it were the Raiders there would be no doubt they cheated. There are all those instances of cold water in the visitor's showers, postponing pest control to remove rats until after the visitors have to use the facility, etc. Would Miami have done that on purpose at that time? Maybe.

Can't wait for Miami ciny tonight for tnf

historically the Bengals have been a bad team record winning wise overall against all teams just like the browns

Why did they not tell Anderson right away that he was calling his own game. It would have made all the difference in the world.

Bengals never have looked very good in prime time

Try coaching from the sideline. Problem solved.

Bengals just beat em Sherm 😅

"Cheating is only cheating when you get caught, and bragging isn't bragging when you can do it." - The GOAT Bobby "The Brain" Heenan

The Bengals can't win Super Bowls either, let's see if you can make a conspiracy out of that fact.

I grew up in Buffalo in the 70s, when the Dolphins won 20 straight over the Bills. It was a popular thing to say that Shula had the refs in his back pocket because he was on the rules committee. That was probably sour grapes, but not the only time Shula and cheating have been l8nked

@dongossman2432

Жыл бұрын

Shula didn't cheat. There's a great story that Czonka tells about finding the Kansas City Chiefs playbook in their locker room. He gave it to one of the assistant coaches to give to Don Shula. The Dolphins lost and after the game Czonka asked the coach if he gave the playbook to Shula. He said that he did and Shula threw it in the trash. Don Shula was many things, but a cheater wasn't one of them.

The Dolphins were a really good team for a very long time. They had Don Shula, who many say is the best coach ever. They had Dan Marino and an insane offense. Had their defense been better, they would of probably won several Superbowls.

And nowadays Hard Rock Stadium has the sun beating down on the visiting team while the Dolphins' sideline in the shade. Nothing suspicious here...

@JohnL-qe4pi

Жыл бұрын

They renovated the roof covering equally around the perimeter. It's not the Dolphin's fault they they chose their home sideline years ago OR that the sun shines from a certain point in the sky on Sunday afternoons. Heh. Heh.

Boo hoo the Dolphins called all of their offensive plays from the field because Dan Marino called them. If Their QB could have then they would have been fine.

Do Dolphins Bengals Amazon Prime where Miami tried to kill Tua after playing him with a concussion next. Knowing you it's already finished!

Prayers for Tua Tagovailoa 💜 🙏

@neildalessandro8196

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Same. The Dolphins had no business playing him against the Bengals.

@DolFan316

Жыл бұрын

Given this injury, and the outrage mob's reaction, I'm taking a hiatus from watching OBJ9 indefinitely. I won't unsub (for now) but I'm just not in the mood for the wave of anti-Dolphins videos I'm sure is coming because of this, and people in the comments associating me with evil, as if I'm responsible for any of it. So don't expect to see me around.

@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040

Жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 if anyone throws crap in your direction, they're dumb. Neither you nor any Dolphins fans had anything to do with last night.

@neildalessandro8196

Жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 This is beyond liking or hating a franchise. This is about the wellbeing of the players. If this was any other team, the backlash would be just as warranted. Nothing OJG9 said in the video was anti-Dolphins anyway. If this is your attitude then maybe it is a good idea for you to take a break from it all.

Would have sent an assistant for duct tape and a glass cutter and just cut the pane out of the window and that's if I'm being patient. Soon as the coin flips that window is coming out regardless. People want to play games then we can play games.

Nah

more fluff. sad if that is the excuse bungles used for phins beating them handily. and did marino have 400 yds. and 4 tds. again?

@CTubeMan

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Coslet specifically said he wasn’t using it as an excuse.

@stevenbauer4799

Жыл бұрын

@@CTubeMan coslet didn't need no excuse for it. coslet sucked as head coach.

Think you need to learn a bit about physics, if it was the AC the windows would of condensated on the inside, and can be wiped off. For the windows to condensate on the outside the air outside would have to be colder. So something is not adding up. So unless Miami can control the weather, there is no cheating. Also, you said it was one quarter, what about the other 3?

Sorry man I don't see it. Unfortunate yes. Cheating no

This week in the NFL we had two improbable events that render two memes kinda moot 1. Butt punt 2. App State one upping the Falcons in the choke job stakes. Atlanta lost in the Supebowl, but it was the same league. App State somehow choked away a 28-3 lead to James Madison, and...pretty much stole the meme. App State is now known for 2007 upsetting Michigan, and, now somehow outFalconing the Falcons. Well done, Mountineers...well done. Only way to outdo that is to have the CFB playoff choke job or a worse Superbowl choke job...

@chaosgreyblood

Жыл бұрын

The only way I feel that the Butt Punt would supersede the Butt Fumble is if the Dolphins lost the game, which sadly didn't happen. Memes like that are most remembered when the team that committed said mistake went on to lose because of it. The Jets S-U-C-K-E-D, S-U-C-K-E-D, S-U-C-K-E-D when the Butt Fumble happened and the Patriots destroyed them, which is why we remember it with laughter.

@bobscott2429

Жыл бұрын

@@chaosgreyblood And as always, J-E-T-S, Just Embrace The Suck.

I think the dolphins did it

Sadly, I'm willing to bet that someone from the team went up to the booths earlier to help prevent that. Also, as nice as being able to see is... you should be able to do the job from the sidelines as well... and lastly... they were down 14-0 when he got up there.. So if we remove the score at that point.. Cincy still would have lost 24-14... That was the year Marino led the team to a super bowl loss if I remember correctly.. and Coslet is not known as a very skilled coach at this point.. he may have had a good run with Cincy here.. but he could not hack it much outside the booth..

@robertcabrera6232

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No that was the next year, '84 Marino's 2nd year, when he led them to the Super Bowl. In '83 the Fins were still a defensive dominated team with the "Killer Bees" that led the NFL in team defense, and Doug Betters was Defensive Player of the Year. In '83 the Dolphins were the Defending AFC champs and tied with the Raiders for the best Record in the AFC at 10-4. Unfortunately, they lost 27-20 to the Seahawks in the divisional round of the playoffs in a sloppy game where Mario threw 2 picks, and the team lost 3 fumbles.

@ronpeacock9939

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@@robertcabrera6232 Not that it matters (cause it don't).. personally, I don't care one whit.. the math is easy though... they got bombed in the 1 quarter with fog... and beaten in the 3 with it lifted... cheating? No.. it still happens when possible.. teams have always done little shit like this to other teams... headsets not working (league has since put rules in place for that one.. if one teams don't.. neither can use them) etc) and them being a year later... So what.. they lost.. they are the Dolphins... I've hated them since I started watching football (same division as the Bills... you gotta hate them).. so them going to a SB.. was bad to start with.

It's the orange bowl thing is old. Toilet water leaked on the crowd For crist sakes. Cheat because coslet had to call a game from sidelines. Nice reach.

Cincinnati cheated Dolphins are better

If you cheat, but don't get caught, it's not cheating, it's a cunning tactic.

@someperson3883

Жыл бұрын

Probably the 2017 Astros

@Rockhound6165

Жыл бұрын

To quote the late, great Eddie Guerrero, if you ain't cheating you ain't tryin'.

Oh it’s cheating. The Dolphins Cheated the Jets In January of 1983 where there was no tarp on the field even though it rained hard on Saturday. The Jets were a team built on speed both on offense and defense. The muddy field benefited the Dolphins. This was said before the game started. I also am not positive but I think the home team is supposed to by rule, put a tarp on the field during heavy rains prior to gameday.

@WinByTKo

Жыл бұрын

That’s not cheating. That’s home field advantage.

@marknapiorkowski

Жыл бұрын

And Miami played on a different field? Don't the Jets usually win when Duhe is Todd's favorite receiver?

@DolFan316

Жыл бұрын

I've never seen anybody accuse the Chargers of cheating when they literally had the visitors locker room lights turned out at halftime of a playoff game VS the Dolphins, with no other part of their stadium affected. Then there's the Snow Plow Game, in which an inmate was allowed by the officials to drive a plow onto the field to clear the snow away so the Pats could kick the winning FG. Somehow when teams cheat *against* the Dolphins, everybody just thinks it's funny and perfectly fine.

@marknapiorkowski

Жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 we handed the Pats their ass later during the playoffs. I think the fans and most of the drinks mysteriously disappeared from the Chargers sideline during OT of the Epic in Miami game,so I'm thinking the lights out thing was pay back in the eyes of the Chargers. I'm just saying stuff like this probably happens more than most people realize. Funny how Miami is in the middle of the most memorable ones.

@joey2729

Жыл бұрын

The Phins beat the Jets 3 times that year dork! Both regular season games were in good weather. Get your facts straight! J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK!

Wow Don shula is the pot calling the kettle black, dudes been accused cheating all through his coaching career. I never thought to look that up until this video. Painkiller gate, monsoon gate, tampering, formation gate, and blind gate... he was also on the competition committe and got the 5 yd chuck rule instituted in the game because his receivers couldn't get away from those sticky cbs in Pittsburgh or Oakland

Don Shula and the Orange Bowl did some very Bellichickian things in the early 80s.

No. Bengals self-destructed. Look at the pattern. After every great game, a really bad one. Miami was a must-win for a team who couldn’t find a way to be consistent. Bad play calling doesn’t make you inept at execution or throw INTs. Collet may not have been able to see, but Ken Anderson wasn’t blind, he was just throwing like he was.

As flair says it aint cheating til u get cuaght lol

Everybody after Tua's back injury is confirmed and he passes every concussion test administered by real doctors: The Dolphins are cheating!!! Take away their next two drafts!!! Also everybody after a Dolphins' practice in Cincinnati is taped and put on the internet: That's fine. Let's make jokes about it!

1ths

I'm sensing OJJG9 is a bit angry at my team for ruining his "2022 Bills are the GOAT" narrative. To be fair, he's far from the only one. Apparently, Miami going 3-0 broke the matrix.

Sort of like what the patriots do

@higgy04

Жыл бұрын

Or Tampa Bay nowadays

No Dolphins didn't cheat the Bengals just SUCKED!!! NOW that Joey Football is there they're better but still suck!!!