This was imo one of the best battle scenes in the series. No reused footage, lots of chaos right amongst the fleet. Plus all the uncertainty in the air about the final five and Starbuck's return.

@silenthill4

2 жыл бұрын

Exodus part 2 > all

@ltraltier6009

Жыл бұрын

The series was based around star wars space battles.

@docferringer

9 ай бұрын

@@ltraltier6009 The original series moreso than the modern version. There isn't the VFX budget to always show it, but the BSG fighters have attitude and reverse thrusters to better comply with physics. Star wars doesn't even try.

@jakeg3733

6 ай бұрын

I feel like this is how the other battles would have gone too. The Cylons should have done this every time; jump right into the middle of the fleet, or as as close as possible, instead of hanging out at standoff distance. If the Colonials have defensive technology that can intercept 99% or more of your long range ordnance then why the frak would you hang out at long range firing ineffective salvos at them? It's a no-win situation, because sending flak into the civilian fleet is killing the civilian fleet as well. Those ships aren't armored much, if at all, so all those little hypervelocity fragments would just tear up craft like Colonial 1

@aconformist1

4 ай бұрын

Best TV series space battle. A few others come pretty close though. The battle to retake DS9 comes to mind.

That scene at 4:38 when you see the flak screen moving to intercept the Cylon ordinance. What a beautiful touch.

The music was AMAZING during the battle. Those War drums when Galactica's turrets were firing were absolutely bang'n.

@tech83studio38

2 жыл бұрын

Taiko Drums actually.

@filmmusicguy26

Жыл бұрын

Bear McCreary is a beast.

The ship with 15 domes is my favourite of the fleet. I'm glad it survived the battle. RIP Pyxis. Watching this almost at frame by frame, I'm amazed at the wonderful attention to detail and the realism for all the ships.

@Kl0zi9999

9 ай бұрын

I think that was the agriculture ship, all the domes were biomes.

@colormedubious4747

4 ай бұрын

@@Kl0zi9999 I think it was either the "Berkshire" or the "Valley Forge" on a long-term dry lease after the American Airlines forest-hauling contract expired. Edited for punctuation.

@SCIFIguy64

4 ай бұрын

I’ve always loved the attention the civilian ships got, something many sci-fi stories neglect. I guess Star Wars have some but they’re usually depicted as part of the rebellion, Star Trek rarely if ever has dedicated civilian ships beyond freighters depicted.

This deserved to be 10x more popular than it was. Its the GOAT

@anthonygonzalez2897

2 жыл бұрын

This show was absolutely super popular

@jeremykraenzlein5975

2 жыл бұрын

So Say We All!

@redactedrider7606

4 ай бұрын

Literally one of the most popular and well known sci-fy space shows lol

@tconnolly9820

2 ай бұрын

When a show is not on mainstream network television or one of the main streamers of today it's never going to get the kind of mass audiences that Star Trek got in the 80's and 90's

1:18 I like how they did that scene. When Saul shoots Adama and the camera pans over to Saul yelling no then In the same shot it pans back to everyone normal again. All in one take.

I always loved Tory's look during the Tigh hallucination. Pure horror as she realizes she's probably a sleeper just waiting for activation as well. Even for a quick little, what, 15 second scene, that didn't happen anyway, it's a powerful look.

@TimothyCizadlo

Жыл бұрын

Part of it is framing, but we do see two characters moving toward Tigh in that bit - Roslin and Agathon. The former is in part because we see her jump back after Tigh takes the shot, and McDonnell needed to get back to where she was before the shot, and the latter is telling because Karl seems to be the only person actively responding to Tigh's actions. I'm not sure the character would have had time to process that he's the commander now.

@frederalbacon

Жыл бұрын

@@TimothyCizadlo ...you know, I never thought about the fact that Karl would indeed be in charge after that. Is that confirmed? He was XO when Tigh was on New Cap until his return, so if the XO suddenly shoots the commander, the third in command would be in charge, but was there anyone who returned from New Cap who held a higher rank than Karl?

"I'm Samuel T. Anders...I was born on Picon..." A truly stunning performance here by someone who wonders who or what he really is.

Those poor artillery crews - all those juicy baseships right in front of them, and they have to focus on flak.

@bsgtrekfan88

2 жыл бұрын

I know right - "ok flank is clear . . . nothing at my 6 . . . . " switches to AP and lobs a few rounds toward thos Fraking Base Stars - lol

@info_fox

2 жыл бұрын

Sooo...Soon.... about flak in space. Wouldn't the shrapnel from the rounds project outward and strike the vipers?

@tuxedotservo

2 жыл бұрын

@@info_fox something I wondered about from the very first episode, when you see shrapnel flak rip apart Raiders. I assume the Vipers have to stay out of the cone of the firing solution - or after initial volleys they only use exploding ordinance. Anders wasn't sure, either :)

@Mobius_118

2 жыл бұрын

@@tuxedotservo There's a line in the pilot episode from Lee about everyone staying clear of Galactica's firing lines, plus they usually don't fire the Raider killing flak at something if there's Vipers in the way. That and the flak fired by the ship's main artillery spreads out in a cone when it explodes. And given that Lee survived a few seconds inside Galactica's primary flak field in season 2, I'm guessing the shrapnel isn't immediately fatal to a Viper.

@tuxedotservo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mobius_118 good catch on the line from the pilot. I'd forgotten about that. It is survivable for a short period - Anders gets caught up in Galactica's flak in his "I have no idea what I'm doing" panic during this battle. The flak field is definitely a defined area that Vipers would no to stay away from - except in the Deadlock game, where they just casually pursue Raiders into flak fields and die (smh)

the sneaking level of Baltar with orange carpet tho.. "don't mind me bois, just passing by"

The fake-out with Tigh was too good. I almost wish they had let it actually transpire.

@bcmm1880

2 жыл бұрын

Could you imagine how much of a turn that would’ve had on the show? I had to pause the show out of disbelieve

@SuperAerie

2 жыл бұрын

I remember the moment when the episode first aired, think my heart missed a beat or two

@jamesmorris9161

Жыл бұрын

When I showed BSG to one of my best mates, we got to that scene and he straight up forgot to breathe for 30 seconds :P

@TimothyCizadlo

Жыл бұрын

@@bcmm1880 I think Sam gives himself as well as Galen and Tory up as soon as he lands, Helo is promoted, and Roslin's heart is broken.

@casbot71

9 ай бұрын

How cheap of a shot would it have been if that had been the end of the previous season.....

3:18 I love those main battery guns firing with flak fields in the background.

@andrewnlarsen

Ай бұрын

It would have been even better if those main guns been armed for salvo fire.

I love those heavily armed Raptors.

@Negativvv

Жыл бұрын

They worked out that after years at war they could be retrofitted for more firepower finally...

@DanielRMueller

Жыл бұрын

@@Negativvv Not sure if they worked it out, or they simply were gotten a lot more ammunitions and maybe more updated variant from the Raptor thanks to the the Pegasus. Guess Ragnar station didn't have everything.

@Negativvv

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielRMueller Pegasus blew up months prior to the Nebulae battle... Although it may have taken the Colonials that time to work out how to retrofit their Raptors. No real complaints from me, they could have just used that firepower a hell of a lot earlier!!

@DanielRMueller

Жыл бұрын

@@Negativvv The Pegasus died way earler in the evacuation operation of New Caprica, but we know that its entire fighter complement stayed with the civilian fleet during that operation. It only had e few Raptors remaining that jumped when it evacuated the Pegasus crew before its destruction

@colormedubious4747

4 ай бұрын

@@DanielRMueller I read somewhere that, during her months with the fleet, Pegasus had supposedly replaced every Viper and Raptor on both battlestars, as well as replenishing ammo and any spares she could manufacture. I have no citation to offer, so...

Still a better Sci-Fi show than most modern ones today....

@Forced2DoThis1

2 ай бұрын

"So say we ALL!"

Is it just me, or are BSG's battle scenes even better than those in Star Wars?

@OhNoNotAgain42

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not just you

@icecold9511

2 жыл бұрын

It helps when your story writing obeys your own canon rules.

@joelaton1062

2 жыл бұрын

I love Star wars, but these are some of the best battles in sci fi, period

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

It's the sweet spot between pure fantasy that's entertaining but demands absolute suspension of disbelief, and hard sci-fi that can be boring or hard to fully understand and appreciate for the majority of the audience.

@LostInTheFarmersMarket

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's because there is no real super tech to one-up the enemy, it's all tactics, logistics and plain old luck as to how the battles unfold. Neither force is actually infinite, and realistically they are both fighting on diminishing returns.

3:18 Gods, I love this scene so much. Hearing those guns firing just gives all the goosebumps.

@ArchTeryx00

Жыл бұрын

Have to agree. This is one of the only times you not only see capship point defenses but see just how *effective* they are against both fighters and torpedoes. There isn't quite anything in sci-fi like the sound of Galactica's heavy railgun artillery in full fire disipline.

@augustheat

6 ай бұрын

sadly you wouldnt hear any of that ;)

I like during the Tigh fake out Tory is shaking her head like “nah, bruh don’t do it! DON’T!”

How is it possible, that something fictional can feel so Real!

I just realized watched the explosion of the passenger liner Pyxis, the bodies tumbling into space as the explosion died down. Gruesome.

@adamaroslin

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@CrazySpence

4 ай бұрын

Well on the bright side they're probably already cooked from the explosion instead of being alive briefly in a vacuum. I found the first mini series more gruesome where it showed the pilots wiggling in the cockpits when their vipers blew up

I wish Bulldog from last season had been called in to fly a Viper. I wish they continued to develop that story arc. Great episode, still mu favorite series of all time.

@somebuddyX

Жыл бұрын

Aww man, Carl Lumbly flying into battle would have been dope!

I love the details where the raiders actually bleed and aren’t entirely mechanical now.

@ValiantWrestling

4 ай бұрын

Yes, we knew that since season 1, since the one Starbuck shot down then returned to Galactica in.

I've only just noticed that Tigh shot Adama in the right eye, the same one as he lost himself. (....and yes, Michael Hogan is fanstastic)

"ALL PLAYERS GALACTICA" like its a game to helo lol.

4:38 is such a cool shot!

All those times the Cylon Raiders were red eyeing....they were searching.

WHAT, this was cut like 20 seconds too short!

The tension is palpable.

“Where the frak are these nuggets” was hilarious

@nancykeovongsa7818

Жыл бұрын

I want to no more about new caprica

@altonlucard4317

Жыл бұрын

I say the same thing in the McDonald's drive through.

The only criticism with the show I ever had was we never got properly introduced to all of the ships in the fleet. Even short scenes that over the seasons established a decent knowledge of each ship would've meant every loss would've been that much worse. I mean even as it stands this scene twists your gut as you're seeing a battle with the civilian fleet vulnerable, which just feels so wrong after so many battles and close calls.

@usul573

8 ай бұрын

I think RDM said if he had more set and visual effects budget he would have liked to show more details on the civilian fleet and more stories on them.

@johnmcternan4157

6 ай бұрын

​@@usul573Moore mentioned they did this for the prison ship, Astral Queen in season 1 and realised just how expensive it was going to be if they did it every episode.

Boy right about now would be a good time to have a much more advanced and bigger Battlestar called the Pegasus helping out right Lee Adama?

@jamesxiaolong2199

Жыл бұрын

If Pegasus didn’t show up at New Caprica they’d have lost Galactica and a good number of the civilians.

@catinthebox9400

Жыл бұрын

The Pegasus could definitely have survived with galactica

@erichtomanek4739

Жыл бұрын

Destroying the Pegasus was just not logical in this universe. It should have survived and thus would have given the writers another angle and more scope for stories, introduce new people and character development.

@TimothyCizadlo

Жыл бұрын

I think Lee has to go in over New Caprica. I think that the main flaw was that neither Adama brought half of Peggy's air group with them. Either Lee doesn't leave all of his birds with the civilians, or Bill takes 20 or so birds to provide top cover after the drop. It's the lack of top cover that lets the base stars swarm The old lady, and are why Lee has to get in close with his main battery rather than standing off and doing fire support from rage, which Peggy was built for.

@Clenched.Cheeks

Жыл бұрын

@@TimothyCizadlo Excellent analysis! I like this.

Not only do I own this, it’s loaded in my phone. You know, just in case I ever get stranded in the middle of the ocean. As long as I have a solar charger, I’m ready to rock.

FRACK! You ended the scene at the best part!

This show is so FRACKING GOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Anders, get the FRACK in your VIPER!

How about... Romo Lampkin?

Finally in HD!

Zephyr is my favourite Battlestar ship lol

@thewokefindergeneral7631

2 жыл бұрын

Is that the twirly whirly one with the ring?

@ranpolol

2 жыл бұрын

Yh

@starflame34

2 жыл бұрын

What's funny is that it almost did get destroyed, but Ronald D Moore was very fond of the ship and decided against it. So it was only damaged.

I still watch this on the regular. Got access to all the seasons and 1 of the movies "Razor"

Brilliant, brilliant television

@kinbolluck476

Жыл бұрын

AAAAAH!

Amazing

WOW SLO MO AROUND 1:23 - 1:25 YOU CAN SEE THE BULLET IN THE MIDDLE OF ADAMA AND SAUL AS SAUL SHOOTS HIM. NOW THATS ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

@ColinGilbert24

2 жыл бұрын

Aye, with the bullet hole in the same eye as Tigh. It kind of suggests that the Colonel blames the Admiral for leaving them on New Caprica and being tortured.

Be the man you want to be!

Essa serie merece um remaster para 2026.

Adama: Saul! …..Saul: Saul-good-man 🫠

Strange the ost for this battle was never released.

Saul Tigh, Man of Iron

As Julian Sands once said, "By all that is holy, great ships shall be built, warriors will be trained and the person who edited this clip short by thirty seconds shall be hunted down." ... or something like that ...

A really guess its for "effect" , but ! There is no medium of course for sound to travel in space, would be boring if all the battles were devoid of sound.

Never could understand why Anders was trying to shoot with his left hand on the stick. Is that the control stick or does the throttle have its own “trigger?” And BTW, do Vipers have LH throttle control? If so, what was that business with Adama testing Kara’s bum leg with weights at the gym? The one where she had to “apply continuous pressure on the pedal to execute a 6-g turn, otherwise she dies?”

@icecold9511

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of times actors are just jabbing random buttons. No set rules. Pensacola Wings of Gold did that. I saw them do so much stupid feldercarb...... The act for Kara hated the fighter scenes.

@sebastiannelson6355

2 жыл бұрын

G-forces are not fully tied to gravity actually. It's speed an inertia with gravity. Even in 0G space if a Viper is going fast (which they usually are) it will take muscles power to not only press down a rudder petal but keep it pressed down through G forces in a turn.

@Ryan_Christopher

2 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiannelson6355 In space you don’t need to maintain a burn to execute a turn. That’s an in-atmosphere procedure, since when you have air resistance you have to apply continuous thrust or else the air slows you down and you lose altitude. It’s that constant thrust while moving in an arc that induces the 6G forces on the pilot. To change your vector in 0G you use RCS thrusters to point in your desired direction and then engage main drive engines behind you. Ever play the old Asteroids video game? That’s Delta V. You don’t need some spring-loaded gas pedal to control that. Two hand control sticks with thruster buttons on one of them will do. When the Apollo Lunar Modules landed on the moon, all their RCS thrusters were controlled by two hands. The main engine only had an On/Off button.

@Ryan_Christopher

2 жыл бұрын

@@icecold9511 In Blood and Chrome they showed a then-young Adama switch from his right hand on the stick to his left hand. But in that case the reason was he had popped-off his busted canopy and needed his right hand to, get this, fire his sidearm at the enemy Raider above him. In another instance he uses his left hand to flick a switch on his LH stick, which has the effect of flipping his Viper around mid-flight so he can shoot at the Raiders on his six. Kara does a similar maneuver in Razor, so clearly there’s some sort of directional control scheme for the left hand. I can get on-board with that if not for the inconsistent use of the centrally-mounted control stick. Like, if suddenly yanking on it engages reverse braking thrusters, as was shown by Lee in the raid on the Cylon’s Tylium Mine, what control input makes the craft pitch-up? Viper controls are weird like that. At least in the old series they made the Mk1s fly like atmospheric fighters. Reverse Thrust was activated by the third button on the stick, not by a motion of the stick. Extra Thrust was of course the Central “Turbo” button on the stick.

@wayne3302264

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryan_Christopher One thing great about BG is, unlike many other syfy shows involving fighter craft, they demonstrate how fighters are able to maneuver in space early on in the program as we see thrusters firing around the ship when a viper is landing.

PSG is not on Peacock anymore. Hopefully it’ll be streaming soon somewhere. It cost over two dollars an episode and I just can’t afford that and I want to show it to so many people.

I'm thinking the Ionian Nebula is actually the Orion Nebula (M 42)

As much as I enjoyed this series, I always liked the original concept that had the Cylons being the remaining machines from a alien race! I had high hopes that the new series would go that route but apparently it’s taking place in the same universe as this series!🤷🏼‍♂️

@joelaton1062

2 жыл бұрын

I actually liked that it was the humans creation. That it was their screw up that caused the first war.

@paddy7812

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelaton1062 To each his own.

@anthonygonzalez2897

2 жыл бұрын

Little trivia: Edward James Olmos had one condition when he agreed to play Adama. No aliens. He wanted the show to stay focused on the human drama. Pretty rare for an actor to have any kinda input like that. Not that he like, gave active input but he apparently did have that condition

@moteroargentino7944

2 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Gonzalez I kida adds to the "emptyness" feel of the BSG universe. Unlike othe shows where space is full of life and activity, here it's a dark, cold, dangerous and lonely place; with nothing but the void within hundreds of thousands of light-years. And when they do find something, it's only a deadly nebulae or an ice cold rock. Add to that being chased by relentless killing machines and the fact that that guy sitting over there may be one of them. Makes you understand how hard it is, mentally and emotionally, for the survivors to push forward.

@jeremykraenzlein5975

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonygonzalez2897 The actor's leverage vanishes the moment he signs the contract. Olmos made his conditions known ahead of time. If he wasn't satisfied with their answer, then he wouldn't have signed, and they would have had to find someone else to play Adama.

No one ever questions after this scene, how the entire fleets power just turned off

@Forced2DoThis1

2 ай бұрын

EVERYONE DID! At the time it was deduced that an outside Agency or preprogrammed quirk had it's way.....The mystical aspect was always played with throughout the series.

A few questions I have about this battle that I'm not sure were ever explained in the show, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure how every ship in the fleet lost main power just as the Cylon fleet arrived seemed more than a coincidence, but it was never explained. I took it as an act of God preventing the fleet from leaving so the Raiders would recognize the Final Five and set the events that lead into the end of the series in motion. But there was never an in show explanation for how that happened. I know jump drives and their tech is fictional, but every colonial jump drive is exactly the same, even civilian and warship variants and all take 30 minutes to spin up after being shut down? So for most of the series the fleet ran with spun up jump drives 24/7? When the Cylons would find the fleet in other episodes, most of the fleet would be able to jump immediately, and Galactica would cover the slower jumping ships before jumping themselves meaning not all drives are designed the same. Surely this would be a huge strain on the drives and fuel, and if a ship ever lost its drive and couldn't be repaired they'd have to abandon it.

There are no recycled battle scenes on this show, unlike the '70s BSG.

@seawind930

2 жыл бұрын

Better graphics and a better budget, it's a lot easier when you aren't constrained by expensive models.

@conroypawgmail

Жыл бұрын

The money and the technology weren't there back in the 70s and 80s. They did what they could with what they had and it was still the most expensive show to produce of its time.

@kinbolluck476

Жыл бұрын

PEW PEW

@MagicAl5F4781

5 ай бұрын

@@seawind930 The reimagined series was much lower budget than the original, but the original was changed from being a miniseries to a weekly series with no notice so they would have had to reuse footage anyway due to lack of time.

If Pegasus was still around could the Colonials beat the Cylons during this battle?

@ikosanweee8203

2 жыл бұрын

4 basestars as far as I can see on dradis. Possible but super hard. We have seen them take 2 out relatively easy. And the Pegasus main battery can cripple a baseship in one Salvo. Would have been interesting definitely

@pedrohicken3884

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikosanweee8203 I think it could have happened. Although there would have been alot of damage to both of them...and then who knows where the series would have taken us...

@Husker5454

2 жыл бұрын

Conventional fight they would still be up against overwhelming amounts of raiders but yes defiantly could of won this one

@thewokefindergeneral7631

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but would take heavy damage and lose a lot of Vipers

@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm

2 жыл бұрын

Pegasus was definitely an offensive ship, with forward facing main battery and apparently weaker flak cover. Galactica was much better suited to defend the fleet.

Stunning battle. Too bad it looks like they spent the entire season's budget on it.

"ANDERS! GET THE FRAK IN YOUR VIPER!"

By this point the whole "It's a Cylon trick!" explanation was getting a bit stale. You can tell even the Colonials in-universe are feeling that way, Adama definitely isn't buying that so easily despite it coming from Roslin

If only season 4 had been more of this and less...the entire second half.

@IvanKinkle

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, let’s not have more character development and deep storytelling. The mutiny was a good part of the series, it showcased how far man had fallen and far they truly were too losing it all. Not to mention trust amongst the fleet and the merging of the colons with man.

@CdrChaos

2 жыл бұрын

@@IvanKinkle Spell check is your friend.

@Negativvv

Жыл бұрын

BSG sort of went down hill after the start of S3 in my eyes, was still great and had some amazing battles like this scene however...

@AOClaus

6 ай бұрын

​@IvanKinkle deep story telling doesn't remove three possibility of good action scenes. And there's deep story, and the bat scat crazy that was what got at the end.

To bad it lasted only 4 seasons

@jeremykraenzlein5975

2 жыл бұрын

Glad we got the full 4 seasons. If a writers' strike had lasted a little longer, we only would have gotten 3.5 seasons, and "Revelations" would have been the series finale.

Disney spent billions for Star Wars and this battle scene is better than anything they've done... change my mind. Cutting off Sam & the Raider making contact should have been left in, super epic moment.

I know the show crashed and burned, and this is pretty much the moment it lost its way, but daaaaaaaam I love the look and feel of this!

CHIAHAKWMYM: Was there a battle here? [THE BORG AND TERRANs STOP THE BATTLE FOR 5 SECONDs IN TRUEST HORROR AT CHIAHAKWMYM DOING KIRK THAT COMPLETELY FOR BEGGING HER TO DO HERSELF WITH ASKING FOR A FRIEND REVENGE.] Sorry, was laughing. [TAKEs OFF, KILLs ONLY TERRAN FIGHTERs, AND LANDs ON A TERRAN AIRSTRIP.] Only killed Nazis. [THEY ALL KILLED THEMSELVes ALREADY IN SCREAMING HORROR AT HER DOING KIRK DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET SIHA TO SAY SHE KNOWs ZAKK WYLDE PERSONALLY.]

@DutchGuyMike

7 ай бұрын

what