The Cosmology of God of War
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0:00 Introduction
2:21 Cory Barlog's Statements
16:54 Matt Sophos's Statements
19:32 Bruno Velazquez's Statements
21:28 Ariel Lawrence's Statements
21:44 David Jaffe's Statements
24:01 In-game statements concerning the cosmology
25:07 The Underworld is not a Universe or spatially separate
25:44 Roots from the mortal world extend into the underworld
27:04 Kratos Falls into the underworld
27:56 Kratos is Physically dragged into the underworld
28:30 Kratos climbs out of the underworld AGAIN
30:32 Kratos and Icarus fall into the Underworld
32:57 The Domain of Death
35:25 God of Greece
35:54 Killing me deprived Greece of the Sun
36:46 Homeland / Land
37:15 Putting Helios's Chariot was putting the sun back in the sky
38:06 Little realm-Spaces connected to a higher plane in Valhala
38:24 Weapons from far-off LANDS
38:35 Our Lands would have been overrun
39:02 Helios being captured plunged the lands into darkness
39:13 Traveler from the Land of the Pharaoh (EGYPT)
39:29 Two realms physically meet
39:41Tyr travelled to other pantheons by boat
40:51 Kratos Sails from Greece to Egypt
40:59 Came to these shores from another land
41:28 Trinket from the lands of Egypt far from here
42:00 Is the Yggdrasil Infinite?
43:32 Are the realms Separate Spaces?
Cory Barlog
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2. God of War director explains ending • God of War's Director ...
3. Full David Jaffe interview • Full David Jaffe Inter...
4. Reinventing God of War • Reinventing God of War
5. BGS 2018: Cory Barlog fala de God of War e seus planos para o futuro da franquia • BGS 2018: Cory Barlog ...
6. Norse and Beyond: Expanding God of War's Mythology • Norse and Beyond: Expa...
7. YOUR God of War Questions Answered by Cory Barlog - Beyond 536 • YOUR God of War Questi...
8. God of War SPOILERCAST with Cory Barlog • God of War SPOILERCAST...
9. New Direction & Deep Mythic Roots in God of War - E3 2016 Stage Show • New Direction & Deep M...
10. God of War®: Game Directors Live - HD 720p • God of War®: Game Dire...
11. Athena's Higher power! Will Kratos unlock it!? Theory/Analysis Explained by Cory Barlog! God of War • Athena's Higher power!...
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@KaptainKuba
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Dga spitting fax as usual
Nice video especially your ways for explaining
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
Great vid. So overall, where do place the GOW cosmology?
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
large planet....could be higher but not enough ifo is given on these possible avenues (domains of primordial etc)
@yasuhirotjokro6506
Ай бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir w
@ashfiqedits47
11 күн бұрын
Where do you scale kratos?@@dgagamingaesir
Ok agreed but what about freya saying that every branch of world tree transcends space and time (it was in gow 2018 when they first entered the room of traveling to other realms)
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
Can you tell me what exactly transcendence means here? How is it shown throughout the game? How does it reconcile with branches breaking under their weight? Don't jump to conclusions based on transcendence blindly.
@znation_official
Ай бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir this is how the gow scalers are mainly scaling the verse to outer and even wanking to 1S I'm here for it's debunk myself 🌚
@ItzWeskinEditz
27 күн бұрын
@@JonWesker keep coping Arshak. Those fake claims are already debunked. Kratos is NOT boundless, not Outer, doesn't have infinite strength, and NEVER lifted the 9 realms.
@ItzWeskinEditz
27 күн бұрын
@@JonWesker fake proofs
@winterwinstar458
3 күн бұрын
@@ItzWeskinEditz I always wondered where they got that from, I don't remember which Kratos will carry the kingdoms anywhere in the game
Do you talk about athena's higher dimensionality in this video? If so where because i remember there being a vsbw thread on it that bumped kratos up to low 1c on their tiering system (4D at best imo) but either way is that covered?
@dgagamingaesir
6 күн бұрын
There is an instance of cory talking about it in this video, but i didn't feel the need to elaborate on it as "higher planes of existence" etc doesn't in any way qualify for a higher dimensionality, even as per vsbw's own rules. They ignored their rules and very tiering system for that 1-C.
Imo, I agree GoW takes place in the same planet (as the author state Greek's destruction only effected the continent) But it wont downscale the overall cosmology due to trancendences, other dimensions and range (like Ares creating an entire Galaxy but only can be seen in the Greek region). Summary, the universe revolves around the GoW planet
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
In the novel it says that this was all in kratos's mind. bruno said the same. even if it wasn't all in his mind, We don't know if ares created it, or if he just transported kratos to it, or the galaxy wasn't real.....basically we don't know enough to claim such a thing.
@Villenueve1101
Ай бұрын
@@NothingtoseriousfrMangler debunked this already in the cord, you can ask him in the server if you wanna have a discussion
@Villenueve1101
Ай бұрын
@@Nothingtoseriousfr The guy who made this downscale.
@videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474
Ай бұрын
@@Nothingtoseriousfrso what? What does that debunk?
@videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474
Ай бұрын
@@Nothingtoseriousfr what you said doesn't debunk it. In fact nothing of what you said actually went against what the novel itself says. Hell the novel is more correct if anything. If you look at the Ares boss fight, right after you beat that stage, Kratos is still in the same position he was. It's a mental illusion rather than an actual physical illusion. Not to mention Ares only created a portal there. He didn't actually create a universe or galaxy to begin with so it doesn't even matter.
W as always
W video brother
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
🤝
So what scale would Kratos be? I liked the video but my English is not very good
@dgagamingaesir
Күн бұрын
island-planetary
crazy how mixed this comment section is One side is all agreeing kratos is a fodder planetary viking Other side is either talking about warrior z or asking to debate on kratos scaling higher
@dgagamingaesir
Күн бұрын
well, one side has the devs , and the other headcanon
gonna see how warrior z is gonna respond to this
@Oneisover
25 күн бұрын
And it's absolute destruction.
@doomhellwalker
25 күн бұрын
@@Oneisover Yup.
Z warrior just keeps on getting humiliated bruh 😭😭😭😭 He literally got ran by me in a disc vc now we got some chad debunking gow 😂😂
@Mrvideo_Edits
17 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 learn english
@Mrvideo_Edits
17 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 ok
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 "you was" Go back to school kiddo.
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 I quoted you. If you don't understand that, then you are far more retarded than I expected.
19:06 what is this song Looks Masterpiece
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
im not sure about the exact song. Its a god of war soundtrack.
Honestly a Forerunner Warrior-Servant from Halo or a Warframe could beat Kratos. LOL!
@Pennywise-tq9kg
27 күн бұрын
nice joke
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
@@Pennywise-tq9kg cope harder
@Pennywise-tq9kg
13 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir cry more warrior z victim
@dgagamingaesir
13 күн бұрын
@@Pennywise-tq9kg It's Truly amazing how y'all can be so blind and neatride so much brainlessly
@Pennywise-tq9kg
13 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir it's crazy how you can never accept the L and you've ducked other people wanting to debate you
The Norse and Greek worlds are two different worlds (universes) comprising their very own respective various realms in their. Those are two separate cosmos connected by seas.
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
Hitchens razo dismisses that claim. You clearly didn't even watch the video. invincible ignorance ftw
@bricelandar
11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 Since when 2 universes are separated by seas ?? Can u give me a scientific article saying "sea can separate universes"? LoL. All evidences on the video are simple and clear So de why make things philosophical and hard ?
@dgagamingaesir
11 күн бұрын
@@bricelandar A universe is defined as an entire spacetime continuum and the matter/energy in it. A sea would not separate two universes spatiotemporally.
Can you Do scale about Cthulhu Mythos Verse There are so many scans out there ive ever try but only i found is Monism which is HP Lovecraft use this Structure on his Selected Letters
@t.p.3325
Ай бұрын
Above DoomGuy
@Redflames123
Ай бұрын
Never thought I see you here friend
@timtoons_
Ай бұрын
@@Redflames123 Sup Redflames
@Redflames123
Ай бұрын
@@timtoons_ what's up
@Redflames123
Ай бұрын
@timtoons_ honestly I am surprised the gow bots or trolls ain't Spamming theses comments I don't agree with the scale really but all of theses retarded gow fanboys(clowns) are making the god of war scalers look like shit honestly
key word "geography"
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
what about it?
@Demiurgos001
Ай бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir Geography is study of planets(usually earth). usually in its physical nature. The mythology in GOW is physical, therefore not even abstract in the slightest. since director and author of GOW emphasised this multiple times.
@paolagiraldo2926
21 күн бұрын
@@Demiurgos001no funciona como debunk hay una entrevista sobre que ellos tienen cierta inspiración por un telescopio para hacer la cosmolgia, al seguir la lógica de eso da a entender que las mitologías contiene su propia cosmología dentro y que no se ven afectadas por lo que pase fuera de ellas como que Poseidón tiene control sobre todos los mares pero no tenga control sobre los mares de otras mitología
Ngl, this makes no sense. The creation of the universe of the different mythologies only exists within the specific location of that mythology? So Ymir only created the Scandinavian area while Gaia only created the Greek area, or are they both the entire earth? How? The God's were there, so they would know how the universe were created. What about Helios, who was the sun for the Greeks? If he's gone, then how did the Scandinavian get a new sun? Or was he somehow only the sun for the Greeks and the Scandinavian had their own sun? There are so many holes in this explanation.
@MrSleepyWolf23
21 күн бұрын
So I get no answer. 😂
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
No one created the earth. When the earth formed, the creation stories sprung up in different regions on the earth, shaped those regions and warping reality or some other magic bs. At some point handwaving issues with "magic" is needed but it can be brought down to a minimum. The actual sun is still fine, it just got blocked by clouds when helios died. When helios was alive, he represented the actual sun, and was for all purposes, the greek sun. So far it looks as if the respective gods have complete control over what effects the actual sun has in their geographical domain, or something related. The "greek" sun is clearly not a star, from gow temple of helios and valhala. Sure there are holes. As David Jaffe said, 22:50 , they weren't really thinking about the cosmology for the first few games.
@MrSleepyWolf23
8 күн бұрын
@dgagamingaesir but the creator said that both mythologies' creation happened, and now you're telling it didn't? Because in both creations, it explained how earth was created. So that's not the case, then according to what you're telling me.
Then how 3 suns exist on that planet
@dgagamingaesir
26 күн бұрын
Since when did suns exist ON a planet? Anyways, the Greek and norse suns are not actual stars.
@BadBoy-pz2hs
25 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir u actually understood my point so why u decided to act smart? Idk Anyway is there any evidence that those stars aren’t real
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
@@BadBoy-pz2hs yeah. Valhala, chains of olympus, temple of helios etc say it quite blatantly.
@BadBoy-pz2hs
15 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir slide
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@BadBoy-pz2hs ?
dgagaming had to get mangler to help him scale, warrior-z already debunked ts
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
The "help" he gave was the video he and zim did like a year ago.
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 ?
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 Go look up whats ad hominem. Also, a lot of this I found myself, so cope harder.
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 Like help is a bad thing. Grow up, kid.
bueno bueno planeta grande dice es facil de tumbar cuando los mismos autores an dicho que de las novelas se pueden sacar cosas como el infierno infinito, que hay una entrevista que confirma que el juego de cartas es canon, que bruno solo es director de arte y contradice el lore del juego, en los juegos nordicos se nos dice de forma grafica como los reinos estan separados y no conviven, que cada mitologia es su propio cosmos y etc mismos argumentos de un video que ya existia y que igual fue tumbado
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
Hell isnt infinite, the card game being canon still doesn't make those timelines physically realized, and no one said that the pantheons are separated. (think u meant realms but then that would be irrelevant). Which video gave these args and was taken down?
But but kratos is 1-T + 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@paolagiraldo2926
21 күн бұрын
Yo cuando esté debunk no ignore media cosmolgia para hacer un debunk 😢
Disc in bio we can run it, fallacious and out of context Args
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
U ever gonna stop commenting like a 5yo? And nice job arguing against the devs.
@saltyfishy5262
15 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir im commenting like a 5 year old ? Then you should reflect yourself since I'm making my take and argument clear so it's you not adding the disc bcuz I'm not stating my arguments here which is crazy lol. Arguing against devs scans that are 1. taken out of context which you literally proved in your own video 2. arguing against devs that are contradicted by the source material which makes it a appeal to authority fallacy 3. arguing against devs that don't have the slightest authority on the narrative neither character designs etc so cope harder lol disc in bio
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@saltyfishy5262 The only take that you have made clear is that you disagree with and hate my videos' content. You haven't so much as presented an argument, which you have admitted in the second sentence yet denied in the first. 1) Hitchens razor dismisses this, and the full convos that are relevant are literally presented. Heck, links to the full thing are given for all dev statements. What context makes all of these statements false? 2) The devs have explained to what degree the source material is accurate, what is the canonical interpretation, and they are the ones who determine all aspects of the games. An appeal to authority only works if the topic at hand doesn't depend on the authority. Your fanboys speak so highly about you yet you show yourself to be the exact opposite of what they've claimed. 3) 2:00 , 5:13 , 5:41 (and in other vids you've commented under). if you would have watched the vid properly you would have seen cory say that all of the devs know ho the cosmology works.
@saltyfishy5262
14 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir w yap disc in bio
When u realize Dgaclowngaming is a talking bullshit fodder and is a garbage scaler that gets destroyed by Warrior and can’t get over the fact that Doomslayer doesn’t get past 5D
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
Too much warrior L cock syndrome.
@TheProblemStarters306
15 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir Too much Indian yapper doom Stan syndrome
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@TheProblemStarters306 racism and insults? are all z'sucking tards this childish?
@dgagamingaesir
14 күн бұрын
@@Themysteriesman6695 Im not the one butthurt enough to try and provoke reactions on a video like a 3yo desperate for his momma's attention
@TheProblemStarters306
14 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir Getting a little tense there aren’t ya little buddy
Warrior Z is gonna rebunk this soon
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
Uh huh. Whatever y'all say. Not like the last two times were complete embarrassments.
@t.p.3325
Ай бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir All Stars is connected to GOW so it should upscale Kratos
@videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474
Ай бұрын
@@t.p.3325not really? That was more of a MK reference if anything tbh
@t.p.3325
Ай бұрын
@@videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474 not it's not
@videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474
Ай бұрын
@@t.p.3325 how so?
NO
@dgagamingaesir
15 күн бұрын
cope
@wrathofzeus7385
14 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir You didn't yet reply to my previous reply Nice shotgunning 🤡
Warrior z knows about this
@dgagamingaesir
Ай бұрын
so does my cat. Your point?
@HomelessmanKiller
26 күн бұрын
Erm Erm ermmm z knows about this
"Kratos is Outer"🤓 "Kratos has infinite strength"🤓 "Kratos has irrelevant speed"🤓 "He lifted all 9 realms"🤓 "He overpowered Atlas"🤓 FAKE PROOFS by delusional Kratos fanboys it pisses me off lmao. That stuff has already been debunked yet they spit cap and take things out of context.
@ItzWeskinEditz
27 күн бұрын
@@JonWesker not rebunked lmao. Keep coping Arshak 🤣🤣🤣
@ItzWeskinEditz
27 күн бұрын
@@JonWesker LMAO keep coping Arshak 😂
@dgagamingaesir
26 күн бұрын
@@ItzWeskinEditzwho tf is this kid.... U know him?
@ItzWeskinEditz
26 күн бұрын
@@dgagamingaesir yeah it's some troll who claims Kratos is Outer and thinks he lifted 9 realms when he's not Outer nor lifted any 9 realms.
@dgagamingaesir
26 күн бұрын
@@ItzWeskinEditz Oh god not another one of those.
Please for the love of God dont say that kratos solos fiction and is above mythology religion and real life he isnt that powerful hes not even outer I've seen people say that shit and its bothering me
@HomelessmanKiller
26 күн бұрын
Maybe actually learn gow sclaing, most of this is incorrect and wrongs and has been debunk so maybe for the love of God actually read these scales before you yap
@dgagamingaesir
26 күн бұрын
Bruh I just showed that the cosmology is planetary chill.
@dgagamingaesir
26 күн бұрын
@@HomelessmanKilleryeah right. Devs themselves say this, the game supports it, but your headcanon scaling is the right version. Got it.
@doomhellwalker
25 күн бұрын
Well, this video is saying that Kratos is continent instead of that, so.