They don't like to say their abuse in an email or messaging or texts. They like phone calls or shutting the door and talking to you alone. So you have no evidence of what they said to you.

@woofiedog7452

4 жыл бұрын

Just record the conversation on your moby phone. Easily done these days.

@369Etha

4 жыл бұрын

Always go in recording...I do. I have every conversation recorded. They think they are ambushing you, but keep your recorder on all day or take a bathroom break before entering the office.

@mebrightwell8237

4 жыл бұрын

They just get more devious

@gusgrizzel8397

4 жыл бұрын

@@LeMerch So if you never want to work in your field again and have enough money to just retire, go ahead. But if you do it, they will let everyone know at other companies that you did that. It's like whistleblowing. Doesn't matter if you right, or they did something wrong, you just will get flagged as a troublemaker that went up against them.

@gusgrizzel8397

4 жыл бұрын

@@mebrightwell8237 Yes. People think they have all of these rights in the workforce, but they don't. As long as someone is your boss, they have complete control over you. HR won't do anything. If the boss said they didn't do or say something, they are believed.

The corporate world tends to reward sociopaths.

@FedExMeYourDrugs

2 жыл бұрын

You always get what you incentivize. The modern world is a jewish creation, according to jewish author Yuri Slezkine, in “The Jewish Century”. The behavior one would expect in such a society is blackmail, backstabbing, threatening legal action, fear, paranoia, detached and lacking empathy. People are reading The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by Dr. E. Michael Jones.

@mashakachan9213

Жыл бұрын

Sociapath come on top not just in corporate world. Literally in every aspect of their life.

@billfromEtown

10 ай бұрын

Sadly the most garbage people are in these roles

@styledtothetop3579

9 ай бұрын

I believe the tide is shifting with these videos. Harvard business review is starting to really focus on dysfunctional leadership and the bottom line costs to businesses. I think that’s when broader audiences will start to pay attention when revenue is tied to corporate psychopathy.

@HH-kg4fq

6 ай бұрын

Exactly

I have worked for 3 major tech companies in Oregon .... The worst displays of corruption and sociopath behaviors have been from the HR department

@alimccreery755

7 ай бұрын

Me too, it was an aerospace company. Extremely toxic.

@ach2lieber

4 ай бұрын

I've worked for several tech companies as well. The toxic behavior usually came from management, not the people doing the grunt work.

@davidh6300

Ай бұрын

I think HR is a great hiding place for these types of people.

@agak61

Ай бұрын

Insurance Corporations as well 🤢

It's worse now, I think. They are being promoted and protected.

@datnohi8612

4 жыл бұрын

exactly

@naomifisher1252

3 жыл бұрын

They are in our system...

@lorishu48103

3 жыл бұрын

And even worse now post covid19

@basklootwijk5724

3 жыл бұрын

Gen Y is the worst, not like these men in video said they will change everything!

@mikecarlson6416

3 жыл бұрын

I believe those procedure are irreversible, whole system is decaying. we are some major disasters ahead of true resurrection

The greatest improvement in work relations probably since the 40-hr. work week is the mass adoption of remote work. It greatly diffuses the power of sociopaths. When i joined my organization, the sociopaths all tried subtly attacking me because they recognized me as a threat, but it’s hard for them to attack me when we aren’t in the office together.

Now I know why I was never promoted. I have a conscience.

@MOON-zo3ik

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@MOON-zo3ik

4 жыл бұрын

Larry TRUELOVE 🤣

@GoddessY1968

2 жыл бұрын

That

@lexhubbard2355

4 ай бұрын

This is true. They only promote people like them. When they realize you aren't like them they want you out. Some places I've worked are crawling with them.

I describe them in Management positions as Seagull Managers. They fly in, make a lot of noise, shit on everyone, then fuck off.

It’s not just a corporate problem. It’s a societal one. Our current cultural paradigm rewards or at least overlooks sociopathic and personality disordered behavior. We’re told to find a way to make it work with disturbed people. We’re told to grow a thick skin, or don’t cross them or told to just accommodate them. Positions of power/authority not only attract sociopaths and personality disordered people, but those fields cultivate them and reward them. It’s heightened in every field that holds some authority over others: teachers, clergy, law enforcement, healthcare, politics etc. Until we reach the tipping point where those who are not disordered or sociopathic refuse to accommodate, overlook or enable them and enough people recognize, name and refuse to tolerate the perpetrators, we’ll continue to see these disturbed people wreak havoc throughout society. In communities or working environments where these behaviors are not tolerated and not rewarded, sociopaths and the personality disordered populations are minimal to nonexistent.... meaning they are a product of what we accept, allow and value as a society. Until we change those, we’ll continue to see the disturbed populations grow.

@fawander1

3 жыл бұрын

Well said and unfortunately, you are right. They have a lot of power and they wield it with a heavy hand. They are the source of most evil. People need to be able to spot them and push back. However, until that is expected and encouraged, and there are validated instruments to detect these people, it won't happen. I am working with someone to develop just such an instrument.

@charliedallachie3539

8 ай бұрын

Yep it’s the “succeed at all costs” mentality…. Even if it means tossing coworkers under the bus or firing good people….they lose their humanity in the process if they even had any empathy in the first place.

@as-above-so-below-

8 ай бұрын

It's a societal disease that's everywhere and the people up on the very tip top of society are just as emotionally healthy as the normal people on the bottom. They're just born in luxury these days so they never had to play rough to get where they are. Even in medieval times, the upper classes of society had to engage in warfare but that's not even the case now. They don't know the mistake they're making in trying to reward sociopathic behavior though. It's the guys that turn the wheels in the middle that are thriving on destructive behavioral patterns and they're the ones slowly taking control. The elite just don't realize how much of a mistake they're making rewarding that personality type because they hardly ever see it and its effects first hand and haven't experienced it at all. The elite live in a little bubble where they absolutely can't comprehend the dangers of rewarding antisocial behavior. They're kind of handicapped by living in their perfect little world and it's going to bite them in the ass when the demons they've been feeding come knocking on their door. They aren't ever going to see that they're throwing money at people that are burning the companies they invest in from the inside out because they're afraid to see it. They just want to stay locked in their mansions away from the world, willfully ignorant to the fact that these guys are ruining industries, driving away workers and stealing capital from them every day. They just tell us to get along with them because they have no idea how impossibly ridiculous of a request that is. They just feed themselves off of trust funds and investment deals that their great grandparents struggled to establish. One day when they've been cheated out of everything and every economic safety net they put in place to keep the sociopathic businessmen from sticking their nose in their world gets ripped to shreds, they'll come crying to the normal and healthy people that they let get driven out of any and all industry to come back but nobody is going to lend an ear. They told all the workers to grow thick skin so they did and got up and walked out and started writing their own stories instead. It's not necessarily sad to watch or anything but it's pitiful how far removed the top 1% are from the real world and so much so that they'll throw anyone millions just for running a "tight ship" so they don't have to.

@charliedallachie3539

8 ай бұрын

@@as-above-so-below- well also a commoner lowly poor person just be part of the royal family either.

@999timepass

8 ай бұрын

@@as-above-so-below- Ditto, my observation. Thanks for writing this. May I share your comment on FB as I share posts on toxic workplace and workplace bullying and mobbing.

Red flags are: Humiliating and name calling members of staff Picking favourites and scapegoats Grandstanding and histrionic drama creating behaviour Grandiose look at me centre of attention behaviour Having a clique of sycophants and enablers around them Hypocrisy - do as i say not as I do Lack of accountability or any sign of empathy or being able to admit they are wrong

@leslieblackburn9687

5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a pastor I had.

@FroggyFrog9000

5 ай бұрын

add to that: superficial charm, popularity, obvious power seeking calculated moves and behaviours, insincere pretend benevolent mentor demeanor to their flying monkeys, contradiction in what they say, trying to pass the blame onto someone else and trying to get you to agree that their fault is actually someone elses fault.

@betsybarnicle8016

3 ай бұрын

Their gaslighting was a big problem for me.

Being charming is a characteristic of character disorders. Read "The Mask of Sanity" by Hervey M. Cleckley which is a classic.

I've been in those meetings where all the good people were sitting tense the psycho was making jokes and the department manager was about to go cross eyed with pleasure from having his ass kissed.

@merchyllynable

4 жыл бұрын

LOL @ cross eyed with pleasure!

@pinkrose4322

8 ай бұрын

Yep! 😂😂😂

I had a job once that I absolutely loved. My first month I was awarded “best sales person” of the month meaning I sold the most products. I noticed this made some individuals that had been there for awhile very uncomfortable. No one would talk to me even though we all sat in an open style office which was small and we could hear each other across the room. One day (before the award) after about a couple of weeks I was standing at the door waiting for the office manager to unlock the office and another co-worker showed up. I asked if he thought if I was doing ok and if he thought I needed to work on anything. He responded by saying he thought I was doing a great job and if I needed anything he’d be happy to help. Later that week myself and another sales person was leaving work at the same time. His car had been in the repair shop and I noticed he got his car back. I made the statement “yay you got your car back finally.” He said “yeah. Finally.” Then the receptionist who was also a sales person was getting every single new sale that came in because, well, she was answering the phones and intercepted them. Myself and the other two were making cold calls and renewing old contracts. In private I brought up that fact to the office manager. She basically said it’s always been that way and that’s how it will stay. I found out very quickly I could not trust the office manager because our one on one behind closed doors conversation got back to the receptionist. About a week or so after this I began having issues with the receptionist. She had become very harsh, rude and would even raise her voice at me. Everyone heard this. Well, one day I get called into the office on the day I received my second month sales person of the month award (I was top sales person two months in a row, my first two months there). My supervisor was there as well. The manager basically said the man I spoke to while waiting for her to arrive to unlock the door that day said “I cornered him asking him questions”, the guy with the car said I followed behind him to his car and he felt threatened but I was literally parked right next to him. AND they didn’t like the fact I brought up the issue with the receptionist because she “is a veteran”. Huh?! I was never so shocked in my life. How could three different people so grossly misconstrue such things?! My supervisor stood up for me and even got angry with the office manager. The office manager said “I didn’t fit in.” My supervisor said she fits in perfectly and that they were all jealous because I was doing so well. I received my check including my commission, a bonus for top sales person, plus four weeks future pay. My supervisor caught me in the hallway while I was still in shock as to what just happened. She gave me a letter of recommendation which stated I “was let go due to no fault of my own.” I immediately called and received unemployment for a full year just because. That letter helped me get my next job and I have now been here for two years and get along with everyone here. We all are like a small family. Myself and another co-worker are always competing for top sales person and one of us ultimately gets it. We even stepped back one month and let another employee have a turn. She was so happy to get that bonus and it made us happy to see her happy. That’s the way work places should be. By the way, I work for the competition of the old office I worked for. I’m not a bad person and I can’t imagine these horrible, toxic people gaslighting co-workers like this. I called my old supervisor to say hello after I started back to work and she told me the office manager, and almost everyone else including the three co-workers were fired. They learned they had gotten together and planned to get me fired because they were threatened by my work. Smh

@MyLifeAsRaphael

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you doing well. Don’t let anyone bully you. Keep on shining. All the best.

There are sociopaths in every large organization, especially some hospitals. Better to keep the company small with people you know and trust. The more people that work there the more chance there with be a sociopath.

@alainvosselman9960

3 жыл бұрын

Sharp remark. It's the same with society in general. If a population is becoming too big, it becomes hard to monitor all of the people and how the evolve through life. We don't always have the ability to intervene when an individual is growing a disorder.

@MrApplewine

2 жыл бұрын

And they tend to be attracted to positions where they can do the most harm, managers making decisions about promotions and remuneration.

@samirunlu9900

9 ай бұрын

It’s kinda hard that way for a company to grow you know 😂. But yeah this could be a solution in a world not driven by greed or need of money 😂. But again I understand what you trying to say more like a family/friends situation.

@samirunlu9900

9 ай бұрын

@@MrApplewineall by design and kinda unknowingly actions of regular people.

@TheRVSN

6 ай бұрын

@@samirunlu9900 "all by design and kinda unknowingly actions of regular people." - yes, based on conceptual power. "Conceptual power is the power of ideas that have dominated human society for thousands of years and the power of people who are able to generate such ideas. It is the highest intra-social type of power out of 5 existing ones: conceptual, ideological, legislative, executive, judicial. Conceptual power: - recognizes factors affecting society; - introduces them into his system of stereotypes; - forms vectors of goals in relation to each society; - forms management concepts for achieving development goals. It is autocratic by nature and ignores the "democratic" procedures of society, which do not see and do not want to recognize its autocracy. "

Forgive me for being so direct but, to say that sociopaths don’t flourish in companies is absolutely ignorant to the dangers they posses. Sociopaths and narcissists love the game they play. They love being in control (even if it’s just the delusion of control) and they often remain popular with most people in the workplace. When someone becomes the focus of their games, it’s almost impossible for anyone to believe what the sociopath/narcissist is doing and they side with them rather than you. They thrive in society because they know how to play the social game and are good at it. High school, corporations, politics, heck, even some churches are riddled with these types of people. They remain unnoticed until they create a place of importance and popularity within the group before any sociopathic behaviors are practiced and have created a reputation so well that nobody believes the victim and gain so much importance in position that it would do more harm than good to get rid of them. They’re like a cancer or well placed tick within the community. To say they’re not going to be a threat in the future is taking a blind eye to what’s happening.

@PeopleProductivity

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. Like everything human, there are degrees of corporate sociopathy, so one encounters a spectrum of personalities, behaviors and skills. Some corporate sociopaths are more clever than others and therefore hide their destructive games much better. Many rise to the top because they so desperately thrive control. However, the trend continues towards more transparency. Although the best can hide, they cannot remain hidden. They all leave a wake of destruction behind them, and in an emerging digital economy where innovation, agility, problem solving, collaboration, and other valuable human skills spell the difference between success and failure, these personality types destroy the creative environment where candor, trust, openness and transparency are required to move fast and innovate well. We both agree that these individuals are highly destructive and have worked their way into positions of power in many areas of life beyond business. It is unfortunate, but it is reality. The industrial era mindset that dehumanized workers and valued capital equipment over people, was ready made for these manipulative, controlling, destructive people. They thrived in this type of environment. However, what I see happening makes me more hopeful than you. I believe we are late in the 4th Turning, a cycle that is very well documented in the book of that name by William Strauss and Neil Howe. The transition from the current system to a new one will be chaotic, but in the end, I believe we will see the rehumnanization of work become reality, and with it will come an environment in which these individuals are exposed for what they are. Let's both hope that I am correct.

@AnthonyManzio

6 ай бұрын

@@PeopleProductivity I'm from Canada. What is your advice? Same here being bullied, mobbed, gaslighting, harassed at the hospital for over 12 years. I've happened to be the top worker for 38 years and have never been suspended. These bullies are jealous and miserable people. Union, manager, HR and the police are all totally useless. Bullies are lazy bums and stupid managers are scared of the bullies. They say about me I'm crazy, I drink, I'm a stalker all bs defamation of character. The biggest mistake since they removed disciplinary measures. They should arrest the bullies and fire the manager. Action speaks louder than nasty words. It destroyed my reputation. I will never quit to make these lazy bums ever win. If I decide to transfer to another hospital and may start mobbing me once again, I don't know all the new managers etc. like in every department like now. So best to not change hospitals. I will never let bullies try to control me from quitting. Never let these low life lazy bums win ever win.

It seems like it’s getting worse not better.

"The days of company sociopaths are numbered." Yeah, not so much. My boss is clearly one. Motivates by fear, and fear alone.

What about when they aren't direct, if anything they pretend to be your friend to take advantage and they like playing the victim? This is more difficult to handle I think, because there's no solid evidence they are doing something bad. They just play psychological games to drive you away, make you quit your job. Yep, smiling and charming, even religious and donating to charities.

@wintermatherne2524

8 ай бұрын

Give the same back with interest.

Plot twist, the world got much worse 7 years after this interesting conversation. We're failing harder not getting better at this.

They know how to pass the blame on to others. You have to blame those above them for promoting them and putting them over others.

I don't think the days of this kind of behavior are counted in the corporate world. These socio/psycho types are great at adapting to maintain their power and influence.

In today's corporate environment narcissists and sociopaths can't call you names or raise their voices at you. But there are other ways they can use colleagues, it is just harder to spot.

@gjinkalla23

5 ай бұрын

Yes! And the other people would willingly do so to shift the target on you Intesa of self! It is a self protective mechanism siding eith the abuser to save yourself!

@PantaRhei-wz5zn

17 күн бұрын

Well, in some places they still can... I had co workers yell, with the top management in the room - who remained *MUM*. After that, everyone who witnessed it, is simply deflated

Yup😢, i will never work in an office again, never work with people again

I can agree with 90% of this. However - I don't think the workplace is going to become more difficult for these types of people to exist, unless corporations (managers, HR personnel and other employees) are trained on how to correctly to deal with them + understand why it is necessary (counter productive behaviour). The bullies are usually very adaptable & because they kiss-up, the boss always chooses their side no matter what. It won't decrease on its own (and as a consequence the great resignation will not decrease on its own too).

@gjinkalla23

5 ай бұрын

What training?! The owner of these corporations is most likely one of them. As above so below!

I have worked with a what I believe to be a psychopath now for about 1.5 years. I have lost 60lbs in that time and daily panic attacks dealing with this. This guy would not cooperate with me on anything, he’s even shown aggression recently resisting my requests. We recently got a new contractor that I’m training. When the new guy came in, this guy shook his hand, sat down and turned his back to him while my boss and I made small talk. He then took off to a remote office for 2 days until his one buddy, our sick sr level guy, came back. He’s now taking 40 hours pto next week. I hope my struggle is beginning to get noticed. I’ve been trying to tell my boss this guy is impossible to cooperate/communicate with. Oh, he is also pretty incompetent and I asked my boss to have him do more research before interrupting my work. I was constantly doing his and mine. Instead, he went full radio silence. So many other red flags, it’s crazy. I’ve been on 2 interviews looking elsewhere recently.

Brilliant just what I thought about the freak I work with

@naomifisher1252

3 жыл бұрын

O.M.G you have to see that person every day!

So sociopaths in leadership positions are indicative of a non-collaborative workplace? That would make sense of my experience of them. They are prone to exaggerating about what they can deliver, taking away your power and are bad listeners. The only thing to do IME is leave them to it and find somewhere better to work as, once they've undermined the morale of the team members, it takes a long time to recover from the damage they do.

@999timepass

Жыл бұрын

They are everywhere.

I agree with the idea of how collaborative work environments defeat these toxic people. The one I deal with, a manager, was intent on separating me from friends to push her agenda. It's rough to deal with!!

There’s a certain former president whose term ended in January of 2021, who, for most of his adult life, ran a company with his last name attached to it, surrounded by “YES” people who bowed to his every whim, feeding his ego and enabling him and his behavior. He fits all the criteria mentioned in this video.

The predominant number of sociopaths in the corporate workplace achieve success passive aggressively through the finance (bean-counters) department by a continual process of cutting until it hurts and then cutting some more; reporting the savings; and advancing to another position before the full impact of their actions are felt through the company and employees. The second most common workplace sociopaths are the managers who incorporate the use of contract or contingent personnel to do their dirty work; take credit for their success; blame them for any failure; under-staff; under-compensate; and then treat them like 2nd class citizens.

People admire these dangerous people

Many of them give a presentation on anti bullying, workplace discrimination and harassment.. that's what I call ironic. In a workplace there's the sociopath, their soldiers and the slaves... The slaves make the production.

The worst coworkers I've had yet was at the DOJ-child advocacy. HR told me they are well aware of the individuals causing chaos. They stopped caring about the children a long time ago.

Your video is quite inspiring. The fact is, sociopaths or narcissists are posing such a big threat that they could easily destroy the whole planet for they are active everywhere : corporations, politics, crime, domestic, religion. All people should wake up about this. Atleast the corporate world is waking up more and more to the issue. I was as many millions of people, a multiple victim of abuse and lost a sister at the hands of a narcissist. Thank you for your effort, spreading information about it !!

@fawander1

3 жыл бұрын

Alain, right on. if we could only limit the ability of sociopaths and narcissists to assume leadership positions, the world would indeed be a better place. Throughout history these are the monsters you read about. Their need for control is so encompassing that they eliminate anyone who disagrees with them.

Some have abandoned the 360. Our sociopath is covertly destructive and because management is several states away they buy the poison and continue to promote and stroke the person's ego. It's destroyed our team but they think this person is still the savior, its sickening.

I left my first corporate job recently, I worked there for 3 years. I have no more savings. No money to live off and pay the bills or we are homeless. Unfortunately I'm stuck looking desperately for another job. Nobody wants me, and the only jobs available are 12-14hr jobs in warehouse or call center, never touching those jobs. I just can't take it or I just wouldn't want to live anymore. I'm just stressed and anxious 24/7. I have a chronic illness which makes everything harder. Nobody cares. I've tried everything possible to make money, even stupid things. I run multiple online businesses, have multiple KZread Channels, I spent all my savings on trying to become a voice actor, which was my passion and the most i've made in a year is $30. I worked so freaking hard, even during my full time job all I did was grind outside of my job. I can't do this anymore, how do people live like this. My whole family thinks i'm a disgrace as I left a good paying job, but it was super toxic and stressful. Constant deadlines, daily meetings and managers making you stay unpaid overtime. I'm only 23. I can't do this for another 40+ years. I wish I knew what to do... I'm burned out too, all I do is voice acting for free and I'm too busy nowadays to even take on small paid jobs. Just sick of this bullshit society.

@PotterSpurn1

Жыл бұрын

I hope thigs work out for you. Just stay positive ad keep tryig.

Consider the waste of time,creativity, and ultimately profitability by not weeding them out of a company.

I don’t agree that there are less psychopaths in the future workforce. I know of someone who is in their 30s who is a real psychopath…. They are out there and are very real.

The trouble is they are usually above you in the work place, and once your on to them, you inevitably get the sack, I notice it everywhere I work, just leave some change on a table it's guaranteed to be stolen or bring up a sad subject and watch their total lack of interest and the Subject matter turn to them, there's more you can do but these are basics that generally give you a good idea.

@KaoXoni

3 ай бұрын

These little tests are great advice, thank you. I would be curious to learn more.

@9ElevenGamer

3 ай бұрын

the Sociopath generally uses any means possible to gain control, usually by devious means such as friendly or charming behavior this is then used to manipulate the person on the receiving end into bending to to the sociopaths will, it's not easy to turn these people down once they are set on you especially if it's a relationship, they are professionals at both building you up and bullying you into insignificance. @@KaoXoni

10:45 "They can't exist as individual contributors, especially in a collaborative environment... They're not into working hard, that's not their game... They get ahead by manipulating, which is why they wouldn't like a collaborative environment... They never really got anything great done, they were talk record but track record was nothing"

I've met only two in my life, separate and unrelated. The damage they've caused has rippled through my network for almost 25years. The worst part about is that neither of them achieved anything of significant value out of the wanton destruction they caused. Softcore middle management at best... It seemed to me like it was compulsive, like 'this is what I do, so meh' and then later 'fk I better gap it, these normies are onto me'

I would like to respectfully disagree that these behaviours will disappear. Sociopaths will always be ahead of the curve, and will engineer situations to make you appear the toxic one if you’re calling them out, or use a mental health/other sensitive label as a shield against any criticism - something we have become increasingly worried about. I definitely agree the best protection against them is a strong sense of camaraderie in the community - the only thing that protects the herd of sheep from the wolf is trusting each other completely and banding together.

I worked with one who was so bad, that later after I'd transferred, I couldn't remember their name. I had a trauma coping mechanism that blocked her name from my memory. Sadly that company never fired her, but the new Director (who was sane and who had my back) forbade that manager from ever talking to me. What a weird solution, though, to an ongoing personnel problem that should have seen that bully fired.

Because of great communication and sources like the internet where employees can learn federal law from credible sources, employees can stick up for themselves when their rights are violated 😊.

While watching I wished you were my bosses! I work at a large courthouse in a big city for 16,5 years. I have two bosses now and both are narcissists (or sociopathic. That Im started to think since this week. One is covert and is managing my reintegration process, and the other one is a mix of both and is my original boss (from the department where I really loved my work, but he said I can't come back because I burned out and had a difficult relationship (which I had to say because they said I had heavy mental healthproblems and more stupid excuses (ok now I did, because of their and my ex his behaviour). Even though the building should be about serving justice to people, it's a big toxic mudpool. There are a lot more good people over there than toxics, but still these cluster B's are popping up everywhere to attack. I burned out because of my 20 year relationship with a covert gaslighting asshole narcissist + gaslighting bosses. I was good enough to work my bud off during a reorganisation (was the only origal team member left), but when they had a working team and I got burned out, the carpet is getting pulled away underneath me over and over again. For the second time during this period I am working again and they gave me two months to prove myself. Apart from each other they have giving me abnormaly high targets that nobody can do (we never had targets, but I do) to build up the pressure (there was no room for discussion not doing it). I needed to sign it and refused to do so, because it was like preparing my own funural. Said I wanted to talk about it with the others. Even though they are toxic, I was stupid enough to think they had a mask for each other as well, so that their seperate pressure used on me would come out/ could'nt be ignored and therefore could not be maintained. Stupid me. I got also an idiotic assignment (like making a schedule to justify everything I do; had to write every minute I spent on things in the schedule, even getting coffee, printing or going to the toilet had to be noted. I said more than once it could'nt be the case and if it really was nescesary, but he (the covert) letterly said that I was'nt the one in charge so I was'nt able to the rules of the game. Then he said 'it was for my own good', so that they could see better wat I letterly produce. It needed to happen, period. So I gave the schedule to them because we needed to discuss it in a meeting with human resources involved (which was about me). What happened: making me sign the target paper was sortof denied, because when asked by HR, I said they asked me. The narc looked at me with glazed look, saying nothing. Even when I asked hij zo tell them. Like I had made it up. Giving me the assignment to write down every minute (even though I discussed it many times, why I needed to do that etc), same story. By doing that they denied it. Because of that I looked like a total disturbed fool and nothing I have said was fairly supported. They even got mad, like I was making problems by stressing over made up stories in my head and to make them look bad. I started to cry which made me look even crazier. My last option was to find another department. With the help of former colleagues I did. The new chef asked around (went to the right people) and wanted to have me. I felt so lucky! He said if they would be fine with him taking me and my reintegrate process over, I had a new job. But as you can guess they said no because of my mental health. It was'nt right for me, they knew best. The new boss said he did'nt understand why, but said he would talk to them. Today I hot an email from the man who said he understood my situation and all better now, said things that made no sense at all (they probably told lies), said they only want to help me and I have to stay positive, let them help and not feel sorry for myself (?). He wished me luck and that was it. So I guess after 16,5 years I probably have to leave because of them. My original boss I only knew for one year: he exploited me and I became trash. Under normal healthy cercomstances I would make it easily till october. They ruined my career and almost my sanity too. Today I saw the covert one and he avoided me. I burned out by ignoring and rationalizing the red flags at work and in the mean time I discovered after 20 years what a psycho my so called life partner really was (a covert sadistic tiran). Then everything of their behaviour and my health made complete sense. Awefull people!

@jillfoley6834

Жыл бұрын

Moon, I completely understand everything you described. I’m so sorry you had to go through this toxic bs. I left the corporate mind games war. Now I understand why everyday felt like I was expected and watched to make a triangle fit into a circle. Nothing made sense and when you get out and realize they did this on purpose because this if how they experience FUN!!! It’s disgusting. I’m a Medical Courier Now. No stress, no competition as there was in my sales position at QUIKRETE of Detroit. Now we recognize these demons immediately and we can say “NO THANK YOU.” God bless us 🙏😇🙏

Coworkers like this exist. They look normal. Trust your guts. It is not weitten in the face. And it is a spectrum.

If I had my druthers, everyone working on the public dime, whether it's the clerk at city hall, the dog catcher, a beat cop or a judge, a senior bureaucrat, or someone seeking office would need to be checked for the dark triad, if they score more than a 25 on the Hare Test for Pscyhopathy, they would be disqualified from the hiring process.

I wish this was true.....I've just been through one of the worst experiences in my life 😕

This man is spot on !!!!

I agreed and happy about the changes that are going to take place in the workplace. I work in the nonprofit education industry, and they are so many narcissistic psychopathic individuals in the work place. I have to agree they’re extremely Conning they are manipulative and very charming. It’s quite sad because I had some stressful encounters with them, it caused me to lose my job. I’ve been praying that I don’t have to ever encounter bully in the workplace again.

I've worked in organisations like this.. its often middle management... and these type of people are sought after. They are Psychopaths & lets call them what they are. You don't inspire people with fear. Its the high staff turnover which is the immediate red flag...

People...the only solution is to GET OUT. I’m hopeful that with society becoming more knowledgeable about mental health, that these types of people will be dealt with accordingly...but save your money and start looking for something else...preferably outside of corporate America.

I disagree that there is less opportunity for the corporate psychopath. A lot of corporations still do not implement 360.

@lenas5613

Жыл бұрын

What is "360"?

@BigBrolls

Жыл бұрын

@@lenas5613 I second this question. What is it?

My boss is a major Sociopath. It's very scary. Luckily he's not very smart. I've worked with him for 8 years. He hates that I don't let him use me or manipulate me. Hate to say it, but the only way to deal with them (if you have to) is to use them back as much as possible.

For me at this point it is quite clear we have an epidemic of sociopathic and narcissistic behaviors both in corporate and in political world, but pitching the idea to people sound like pitching a fancy new conspiracy theory. I struggle a lot with raising awareness about it. And the bad thing is that we have the 360 reviews in place that in theory and in practice expose the "kicking down kissing up" people, but I haven't seen any consequences. Kissing up works well with upper management, even though lower rungs are signaling the problem.

DIdn't really hear How To Spot Them in this podcast. All I really heard was "smiling" and "charming." Firing, or getting rid of everyone that is "smiling" and "charming", will leave an organization with a miserable low-vibe workplace. There has to-be high energy people in organizations to thrive. That said, I have crossed paths with corporate sociopaths, all they do is work on credentials, don't work, and strive for individual moments while awaiting openings.

Thank you for sharing

7:10 I disagree. Not only are there days not numbered, but there are more opportunities given the greed in corporate achievement at all costs and personal reward. You also have more flying monkeys in the workplace than ever who are doing the bidding and bullying.

Thank you for posting this

Keeping the image of the perpetrator in proper perspective is key to survival when having no choice in having to work with or parent with a sociopath. At the end of the day every human being is only one human being and not a god. Each human being in any organization or community has a set of feelings, needs and desires that they cannot hide forever. Becasue nothing ever stays in the exact same state over time only a human being has limited over all others power no matter what heights they have risen to or have risen to in the past.

If you say or do something they don't like they launch a mf campaign. No matter who you vote. This is why people become centrists

Here in 2024. It didn't get better.

Yeah.. ....darn'ol corperate sociopaths. Always stirin'up trouble.

My cfo never returns emails and has to be reminded 10x

Thanks for this great exchange, I experienced a boss like this in a company, he had a scapegoat, who managed everything, it was like Mr Burns and Smithers, as long you are useful for them, they kiss your ***, the moment you try to keep them encounterable, they freak out and turn to energy vampires and abusers, therefor I like to create company of leaders, who exchange those folks, empaths make the best leaders, we have to educate our kids from young years, what to tolerate and when it's time to go.

Thanks guys! I feel better.

A woman who has ( zero) management skills and just high school education was just promoted to manager in my workplace because she is knowledgeable about the procedures of her department and others she worked for. She fits about 90% of these traits. An absolute scary jerk, an a- hole… The thing is that her department works in conjunction with the one I am in and we will have to deal a lot with her what is scaring the life out of me…if by whatever reason my manager quits she will most likely become our boss, what is giving me daily nightmares and anxiety…

We must rid the world of sociopathy ...sooner rather than later?!

they weed out the clock milkers..but if they piss off good employees..it can be very damaging.

This was an amazing and very informative video. Thank you for this.

@fawander1

3 жыл бұрын

Raven, glad you enjoyed it.

@yvonnejensen1969

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised by your comment.

What if the company culture support wide spread sociopathy. I work for a family super market on the east coast, and their managers are horrific...all of them. The company does well, but they have very high turnover. Their behaviors are cultivated, and hr managers encourage and participate in the bad behaviors.

I don't see this getting better.

I'm so glad I gave up on society yrs ago

A business entity *IS* a sociopath. It only has one imperative: to be profitable at whatever costs it can get away with. Even employers distance themselves from this fact, to remain innocent in their own minds, on one hand giving token gestures of solidarity and support to employees, and on the other hand enjoying all the benefits of cultivating their sociopathic practice - it's not personal, it's just business.

They did a study a psychological study and found out that actions of most corporations would constitute them to be a Sociopath

I disagree, I think corporate sociopathy is on the increase.

@datnohi8612

4 жыл бұрын

I concure, I just got out a big corporation job I worked for years and it seemed like that's all they hired the office was filled with them....some where undercover & some where in your face, I only survived as long as I did - because I knew how to play the game

@puscifer99

4 жыл бұрын

@@datnohi8612 I think you raise a good perspective, akin to my experiences as well. For reference I have a degree in psychology and I think the rise of corporate sociopaths is inherently from the way people are assessed since it values people who are highly disagreeable and highly conscientious with the only focus on financial outcomes. These traits tend to associate success with sociopathic behaviours and untill assessment metrics are changed I doubt we will see any changes, since big organisations have plenty of places for them to hide.

@100mphFastball

3 жыл бұрын

@@datnohi8612 a sociopath will not bring a non sociopath into their mix.

@puscifer99

3 жыл бұрын

@@100mphFastball yeah that is not how they work.

@FedExMeYourDrugs

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this guy is a moron if he thinks sociopaths don’t still absolutely dominate positions of power and influence in literally every single field

Imagine a corporate sociopath accidentally running up against a psychotic employee who goes into fight or flight mode all over them...

This is great news for the future.

I love the lion explanation. It makes since.

May be do a psychometric test , psychological evaluation before hiring

@DrogoBaggins987

5 жыл бұрын

True psychopaths are really very good liars and can get through such things most of the time. It's a good idea but you must always be aware that you might be dealing with a psychopath.

@EiziEizz

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrogoBaggins987 Well it just requires a test that is hard to cheat on.

My boss is a SOCIOPATH. This is so good. I am talking to recruiters. Very unhealthy. "Fear Conditioning" superb analysis. Time to fly.

I think a sociopath will adapt to the change

Hands up if you think that parking in 2 spots in the parking lot is a sign of sociopathy!

Guy I knew, CEO VP etc. destroyed all the companies he worked for. Laid off 86 employees. Other never paid them. Etc. they love acting etc

It's HR 's fault...

In fact, there should be a law or system in place where ppl can report psychopaths or sociopaths who occupy any posssition of authority in government and law making field. Like a law that protects whoever reports the sociopath or psychopath or narcissists when the report is made based on witnesses and other forms of evidence. These ppl put everybody at risk they should be removed from any form of power that concerns the safety and livelihood of others. I’m throwing this here with the hopes that someone would read it and would pass the word

@Madwomann

3 жыл бұрын

I agree and I believe there should be someone who's 100% impartial that monitors work environments for months without anyones knowledge, like an undercover psychologist playing as a new employee. Problem is that corporations are enablers, riddled with hypocrisy and employees get gaslighted into silence. If you complain to HR about inappropriate behaviors like this, their first response is to doubt such claims and since you don't necessary have the time to document every incident (because you're swamped with work and cellphone use is not allowed...) they will brush it off as if you're the one misinterpreting things, even label you as the problematic employee who complains all the time. I mean, how dare you acuse that workaholic person in charge, who's getting work done for this company!! That would mean that we might need to hire someone else?? No way, to give you the benefit of the doubt, let's scold the person into better behavior and they will change forever... Yeah, for a few months because adults rarely change the way they are. Corporations are highly in denial or just turn a blind eye to issues like this because it's convenient.

@cubanadiense

3 жыл бұрын

@@Madwomann eventually they will suffer too because of this, they can loose quality employees and be left with a mess , etc. It is just a matter of time till a better work dynamic replace corporations, eventho they really trying hard to win over small businesses , their ways are out of synch with natural laws, so eventually it will all turn around

@Madwomann

3 жыл бұрын

@@cubanadiense We can only hope for such a shift in our collective psychology. If so, lets be prepared for extremes before the balance.

They use IT and their company marketing accounts too, to hurl insults. Ingratiating.

I have had the misfortune working for three bosses who were sociopaths. I am glad I no longer work for any any of them

@PeopleProductivity

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I missed your comment. Sociopathic bosses are sooo toxic. Did you have the misfortune of working for more than one of them?

@imcoop

Жыл бұрын

@PeopleProductive no worries. Yes. I am now at a much better place thank goodness

I worked for two psychopaths.

Consider Gate's for example. His legacy is death & destruction. The damage he is responsible for is unprecedented. The extent of which has not been fully realised or borne out. Doesn't take a strong person to aspire to & stoop to this level. Weak men make bad times. He's a shell of a human. He will lose all

The power of the collective as protective took a huge hit whey pandemic hit and all went remote.

But this doesn't tell how to spot a sociopath or how to deal with one. About all it says is that sociopaths are manipulative and bullying and can be charming.

You work for me, I don't work for you

I have been asking for some time how do we restructure institutions so we are NOT promoting the sociopaths 👍 will be exploring your writing

They led me to early retirement. Why bother?

very god video , I have had, srange enough , expeiences in Academiia with students ,Unfortunaly i s not so easy to get rid of them

Always take notes, always ask for HR to be present.

What are the best ways to defuse a Corporate Psychopath? She basically told another of my coworkers that I am a liar. She was proved wrong and I discontinued my working relationship with her. 1 month later she is asking to meet with me and go over the situation. I think removing myself left her without a target. And now she wants to rekindle this work relationship. What are your thoughts?

Someone who believes that corporate sociopaths are less likely to be dangerous isn't looking at crime stats. Not all violent crime makes the news, especially crimes that follow you home. Preceisly 5 years later not only is this video not true, it's worse.

I took on a gang of them at my old job... In my case they got jelaouse of me cause the way I worked. They told me your making us look bad? Who's we ... All of us are here on this together. Facing one I told them come on showed me u open your mouth so much Stop manipulating people!!! Then the last one the manager making stuff Ahh my job performance I bad that's false statement.. I did this and that.. then he goes you threaten another employee... I'm peaceful worker what u called all of this false accusations your made up right now against me.. damn I saw his face it's like his demons just die right there

@PeopleProductivity

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment in English, even though it is not your native language. It is appreciated. You were very brave to take them on. These people always extract a psychological toll on those around them. The sociopaths are very concerned with appearances and manipulate others to their benefit. If they perceive you as a threat - even if what you are doing is good for the company and good for the customer - they will start undermining you and continue till they drive you away. By standing your ground and (I assume) controlling your emotions you stood strong, which diminishes their power. Moreover, you pointed out how they are flawed, and manipulative. Nice job!!

@emperorenz6419

Жыл бұрын

Little late, but this is exactly what happened to me a couple of months ago. The way you described it was spot on!!

Would you re-sync your position on the future date given that this video is several years old? It seems our world is becoming more full of malignant narcissist especially on the political world stage. Also, psychopath killer five if they come into an organization at a very high invisible level with high expectations and I disability. They may not last long but the damage has no end.