Forget Joaquin Phoenix´s age, which is obviously not right for the role ( he´s way too old to play Napoleon), what I want to know is: why does he play Napoleon like if he´s playing again Arthur Fleck from Joker? Napoleon Bonaparte was by all historical accounts an extremely charismatic, energetic, brilliant & shrewd military commander/statesman/ leader of men. In this movie, Napoleon is NONE of this.

@Gramet-sc1ki

4 ай бұрын

Why ?? Why he play addict roles and psychiatric cases roles ??? ´cause he fit with this roles. He is addict and crazy. It’s look like they put a depressive crack addict in this role it’s ridiculous.

@iamgermane

12 күн бұрын

They should have de-aged Jaoquin like they did De Niro in that crime movie.

@doublep1980

11 күн бұрын

@@iamgermane Absolutely not, they should have gotten a younger actor and put some make-up on him for the last part of the movie where he plays the older Bonaparte, to make him look older. Digital de-aging tech is still not good enough.

Napoleon was born in 1769, he would have been 34 when he was crowned Emperor. Joaquin Phoenix, pushing 50, looked it, plump with big body did not look like Napoleon who was slim, boyish and charismatic. I admire Ridley Scott for his many movies, but sadly his Napoleon should have been played by a much younger actor.

@tristankramer4636

5 ай бұрын

@@ElectroKinetic1977cry harder

@user-tl1yj1ky2x

5 ай бұрын

Don’t hate on Joaquin cause he’s and actor and not you… you talk as if your a big shot in the industry, you have no idea what your talking about nor do the rest of us but don’t hate my dude Joaquin for killing this role!

@user-tl1yj1ky2x

5 ай бұрын

@@ElectroKinetic1977and yeah people watch his movies because he’s “Joaquin phoenix” his method acting is something yourself would not be able to do or myself. That being said stop critiquing as if you were someone special in the film industry. Not saying he’s the greatest actor but he’s up there for sure. If you can do better share it if not then shut the f#*& up. 🙂

@ElectroKinetic1977

5 ай бұрын

@@tristankramer4636 who's crying dumbass....?

@XI24

5 ай бұрын

34 in 1800s did look old for today's standards

My favorite historical figure, in one of my favorite moments. He invited the pope to Paris, which during this time was a hard trip, just to embarrass and upstage him. I wish I had the chance to go back in time and talk to the man that arrived in France a refugee and 5 years later was the emperor. A unique and deeply interesting figure in history.

Napoleon was 34, youthful, energetic, charismatic, experienced but still young enough to dare on the principle of "but what if it works?" This is the opposite of that.

Ridley Scott should know when to just lie down and give up

@jpgsf1978

4 ай бұрын

R.S. is 86 . He’s running out of time.

@DutchGuyMike

3 ай бұрын

@@jpgsf1978Aye.. degenerative diseases and "back-warding" of the brain doesn't do no good..

When my grandfather was about to die at the age of seventy he looked like this coronated Napoleon.

This scene, and the one in which Nappie is sent running with his tail between his legs while attempting the coup of Brumaire are the best bits of this movie. The rest is ridiculous!

People aged faster back then

@ianinkster2261

3 ай бұрын

No they didn't. Except in as much as they may have smoked a bit more than in 2024.

@jedwademberpants4531

Ай бұрын

@@ianinkster2261that’s not all I think of shit like storing tomatoes in those mercury containers and shit they did a lot of stupid shit trial and error but they walked so we could crawl:)

O man what a mistake, Napoleon was 35 years old when became an emperor,this guy looks around 60

@airt698

5 ай бұрын

Just thought about that 🤦‍♂️

@user-zi5jy9lt1r

4 ай бұрын

his body was 60 :)))

@derepicskin888

3 ай бұрын

Dont be disrespectful. Phoenix is a young 49 here

Without a doubt, the best part of that movie! It's like seeing artwork come alive. Nice work, costume department and set production team.

The Crown Jewels of France are something to behold in the Louvre.

I love Ridley Scott but like others have said, I believe his Napoleon is way too old. Perhaps seeing he had worked with JP before in the wonderful Gladiator, and liked him and his acting then, so although it's 23/24 years later, 'plumped' for JP again. Who knows what goes on in the mind of a great director?

@williambaglme819

4 ай бұрын

Because that is what a man in his mid 30's would have looked like in those times. This was the 1800's my guy.

@ianinkster2261

3 ай бұрын

@@williambaglme819 No. Unless he caught a lot of sun.

@neilcaezar306

3 ай бұрын

@@williambaglme819 That would be a reasonable assumption, unless you just looked at the other nobility in the background. They could quite literally be the same age or even older than Napoleon but still look twice as young. Stop defending this, JP is a fantastic actor, but he's just not fit for the role in his current age. These are the same defenses I saw when the Irishman came out and everybody couldn't figure out why CGI and makeup couldn't make an 80 year old look 30.

There is a Mini french Serie called "Napoleon" with "Christian Clavier" from 2002 if you peoples are interested in it, but I do not know if it's available in english, audio or subtiles.

Whats the song that is played when Napoleon and Josephine exit the cathedral?

@luxbeci2

4 ай бұрын

I not know Why?

@danilsmith7292

4 ай бұрын

@@luxbeci2 I like the song. Problem?

@augustinalecu2888

4 ай бұрын

It's called Singt dem Herren alle Stimmen

@ML-ke9gt

2 ай бұрын

Es de una misa bastante larga de Joseph Haydn . El nombre en cuestión es "the creación", lo que aparece es exactamente el final de toda la obra

It appears that everyone who commented on this clip will not be watching the movie. Good thing the streaming sales will cover the 200 million production budget. The worldwide appeal means less than 25% of viewers and their cash came from the U.S.

Napoleon said it like this *“I found a crown in the kennel; I cleansed it from its filth, and placed it on my head"*

This film coulda been hella better, but it's still pretty good.

What's the music?

@coetrupe

28 күн бұрын

Singt dem Herren alle Stimmen by Haydn, enjoy!

@tevzcrnic4456

28 күн бұрын

@@coetrupe man I love you so much. I discovered a whole new genre of music to enjoy thanks to you. Also quite funny they chose Haydn (the guy who wrote the Habsburg anthem) for this scene.

@coetrupe

28 күн бұрын

@@tevzcrnic4456 Haha no problem, glad that I could help. Indeed it is ironic that they used Haydn's music

2:15

IT WAS A MISTAKE OF JOAKIN PHOENIX TO ACT IN THIS FILM. AFTER JOKER, WHICH HAD SUCH HUGE IMPACT, HE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE SEQUEL JOKER 2, AND THEN MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE. EVERYBODY WAITS FOR JOKER 2. A "NAPOLEON" IN BETWEEN BLURRED THE IMAGE, AND WAS CONDEMNED TO PASS UNNOTICED. JOAKIN S MANAGER SHOULD HAVE WARNED HIM...NAPOLEON WAS AN INTERLUDE (A WRONG ONE) BETWEEN TWO JOKERS.

Italian Power!!! ✊ 🇮🇹

@JohnDoe-vp9ey

4 ай бұрын

French!

@RobVerdone

4 ай бұрын

@@JohnDoe-vp9ey wrong! He was from Italian Corsica, that's why the French picked on him calling him "a poor Italian" until he CONQUERED the French. 🇮🇹 ✊

@JohnDoe-vp9ey

4 ай бұрын

@@RobVerdone no that's propaganda and misinformation. He was a frenchman. Only a frenchman could achieve what he did, trust me

@Breadstickz8002

4 ай бұрын

@@RobVerdoneCorsica was Acquired by The French in may of 1768, While napoleon was born in august of 1769, Meaning he was born in France, he was French, Dumbass

@niasea3484

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnDoe-vp9ey ? He’s from an Italian family….

Nopoleon Lemolte Bonoporte

@luxbeci2

4 ай бұрын

This full name?

@ahmadsantoso9712

4 ай бұрын

@@luxbeci2 No, that's just a name I gave him, his real name is Pablo.

Era Petulante o Napoleão 😮

The joker playing Napoleon!

@borakorkmaz9131

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. I wonder who's idea was that?

How can you say this movie isn't good? it is a work of art.

@hypersp3ce596

4 ай бұрын

it's wildly, and i mean WILDLY inaccurate from a historical standpoint. they got even the most basic things wrong.

@zhukov7923

4 ай бұрын

It's horribly inaccurate. It would be much better if it was historically accurate.

@HextorBane

4 ай бұрын

No, it is not. The portrayal of Napoleon is pathetic; he always looks bored. I feel sorry for Phoenix but this is definitely not a part for him. The gross historical errors are definitely not to be forgiven. It is not enough to try to create showmanship if you are making a historical film, especially when it is based on a character as charismatic and skilled as Napoleon. Those who appreciate this film really know nothing about history or even less about Napoleon.

@countryman3777

3 ай бұрын

@@HextorBane So, if you like the movie, than your’e stupid ? Maybe it requires more than juste looking at inaccuracies. What Napoleon said about his battles, his campaigns and his works are full of lies, nurtured by propaganda and his will of power. Then, it’s not awful to me that representing Napoleon according to his point of view is full of nonsense. Somehow, what Ridley Scott showed us could have been how Napoleon described his life. Again, it requires more than juste saying « It’S NOt HiSToRiCaL » ! If you want to learn history, go get a nice book or a dedicated video, but not a movie from hollywood.

i dont know why, but Ridley Scott could have made this movie FAR more better ....just like how great kingdom of heaven was

Didn't even care to cover up that hare lip scar

This scene is wrong, as soon as the pope had the crown on his hands and was about to crown Napoleon , Napoleon snatch the crown from the pope´s hands and crown himself emperor , he basically invited the pope to humiliate him !!!!!

@benrichard3675

4 ай бұрын

isn't exactly what we see in the scene?

@miroslavjanecek9993

2 ай бұрын

Well, that didn't happen. It was agreed long before the coronation that Napoleon would crown himself and the Pope agreed (not that his disaproval would have changed anything). Napoleon certainly didn't snatch anything from anybody's hands during the coronation.

Months after the release, I'm still disappointed by this movie. It promised to be really good, but Scott ended up trolling us all, giving us 2 hours of Napoleon and cringephine arguing in bedroom, and 0 real story. As an history student, this movie hit me harder than my father (negatively)

Phoenix is way too old for this role...

a rather disappointing ceremony crowning him king, expect more.

Down with the Emperor. 👇👎

Why not Alain Delon played Napóleon he more better actor Than Joachin Phoenix and Alain Delon totally French Napóleon bloodline, but Joachin Phoenix totally not French he british. Alain Delon more beautifull Than Joachin very big different and Alain Delon better phisics condition

Total bullshit. Such a shame for Napoléon. Phoenix had no clue how to act

@pedrolimaneto5573

5 ай бұрын

The age between Napoleon and Joaquin, I got it... but he is a great actor.

@fl.m2851

5 ай бұрын

@@pedrolimaneto5573 He is. But he came out 2 weeks before the movie having no idea how to do Napoleon. He said it himself.

@doublep1980

5 ай бұрын

@@pedrolimaneto5573 He literally said in an interview, that he didn´t know how to play the role when they started filming. So, he asked Ridley Scott: "How do you want me to portray Napoleon?" and Scott basically told him: "Yeah, do whatever..." And this is what we got, Joaquin Phoenix playing Arthur Fleck from Joker, cosplaying as Napoleon Bonaparte.

@luxbeci2

4 ай бұрын

Alain Delon more better actor he need play Napóleon

Was anything correct in this movie? 😂

This was the worst movie of 2023 hands down. AWFUL AND PATHETIC portrayal of one the greatest military geniuses of all time

As someone who doesn’t really give a shit about historical accuracy, This movie is still terrible.

Off colored movie highly inappropriate

What a stupid soap opera of a movie

Well made film!

This move is soulless probably it was intention of director. Beautiful historical fresco, beautiful but far and fearfull