The "Corny" Rapper Debate

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A quick Google search will give you a definition of corny that reads, “trite, banal, or mawkishly sentimental.” In other words, something that’s cliche, empty, or fake deep. In a hip-hop context, this isn’t far off from how many fans and critics use the word “corny” to criticize artists who they see as either dishonest in their lyrics, fake in their persona, empty in their value despite their ability, or some combination of these factors. While it doesn’t always harm a rapper’s ability to sell records, the “corny” label can severely limit the respect an artist gets outside of their fan base.
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Narrated by: Pro (@JaysnProlifiq)
Written by: Zander Tsadwa
Edited by: Roman Bill
Music by: Josh Petruccio
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  • @nikeboy3211
    @nikeboy32115 жыл бұрын

    Can a rapper "uncornify" himself?

  • @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thats the real question.

  • @popsmokesintern6577

    @popsmokesintern6577

    5 жыл бұрын

    Make a classic album with a different style

  • @UzitheSaint

    @UzitheSaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy how some are corny because they're too positive bruh that's crazy

  • @retroesso

    @retroesso

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nick Cannon did it

  • @nikeboy3211

    @nikeboy3211

    5 жыл бұрын

    Edward Mor that rapper could either do an Eminem or actually use the things people say as constructive criticism and work on it or do nothing at all cause your old formula was what got you success in the first place

  • @CultureDTCTV
    @CultureDTCTV5 жыл бұрын

    Logic : I'm bir- Chance : I LOVE MY WIFE OH YEAH

  • @Doomer-hg2fi

    @Doomer-hg2fi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Both corn 🌽 balls

  • @ps-zs3wt

    @ps-zs3wt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Doomer-hg2fi that's not what corny means !!!

  • @ps-zs3wt

    @ps-zs3wt

    5 жыл бұрын

    To be fair you use it how most use it in the hip hop community but in the video he claims it's used as in overly sentimental to the point that it's ingenuine although that is technically what it means, no one uses it like that when talking about rap.

  • @9LivesNoHate

    @9LivesNoHate

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ps-zs3wt Denotation vs connotation... There are different levels of corny

  • @ps-zs3wt

    @ps-zs3wt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@9LivesNoHate you mean different levels of meaning

  • @9RangerRed4
    @9RangerRed45 жыл бұрын

    "Did the man who invented college, go to college?" - Hopsin

  • @honestone4306

    @honestone4306

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dude Hopsin is so woke you just can’t underst- BAHAHAHA OK IM SORRY I TRIED TO SAY IT WITHOUT LAUGHING 😆

  • @RobGradyVO

    @RobGradyVO

    5 жыл бұрын

    "What could I POSSIBLY ever learn at college???" - Everyone who didnt go to College or university by choice

  • @spider12dx

    @spider12dx

    5 жыл бұрын

    @TCT nah It's stupid because if you're starting something nobody ever tried of course you haven't gotta thru that process

  • @stuarteales641

    @stuarteales641

    5 жыл бұрын

    you go to college just to work for other people

  • @WrestlingAndWrootBeer

    @WrestlingAndWrootBeer

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Hmmm...Okay then."

  • @TxWIll
    @TxWIll4 жыл бұрын

    Hopsin is corny for the 'horror' contact lenses alone

  • @jacobfarrell7171

    @jacobfarrell7171

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kanye did that too. I'm not a Hopsin fan. Just saying

  • @donys.d.5319

    @donys.d.5319

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobfarrell7171 and Method man

  • @jacobfarrell7171

    @jacobfarrell7171

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@donys.d.5319 truu.. judgment day

  • @kmi2579

    @kmi2579

    3 жыл бұрын

    i may be wrong but i'm pretty sure their purpose is to differentiate him from other african-american hiphop artists, not to be scary

  • @TxWIll

    @TxWIll

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@jacobfarrell7171 Kanye wore them a couple of times, he didn't make them a signature part of his persona like Hopsin though, that's what I'm talking about, it is a lil corny.

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer5 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand how The Game avoided the corny label. Nowadays he has to start a beef to hype up his album.

  • @thekillerklebb

    @thekillerklebb

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, he definitely has gotten the corny label thrown at him before. That Joe Budden/Cyn Santana shit he pulled a couple months ago was corny af. Talking about he’s gonna leak a 10 year old sex tape. Corny af

  • @patrickgermain2507

    @patrickgermain2507

    4 жыл бұрын

    The most

  • @SpeedyUsher

    @SpeedyUsher

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Game was never corny. Stop lying to yourself

  • @yourpronounsarebs

    @yourpronounsarebs

    3 жыл бұрын

    RandomBlackGamer pretty corny name. And your Videos also corny.

  • @enriquecool8086

    @enriquecool8086

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good call. He is the king of corny.

  • @98kame
    @98kame5 жыл бұрын

    J cole was never corny to me and Kendrick was never either

  • @Scoring57

    @Scoring57

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rixhboy Drew Dont know why J Cole is seen as corny either

  • @smoovemoves95

    @smoovemoves95

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rixhboy Drew drake is corny now

  • @japanrocksgousa

    @japanrocksgousa

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@smoovemoves95 Drake is corny.

  • @jasonarmstrong9656

    @jasonarmstrong9656

    5 жыл бұрын

    People use the word corny to describe someone they don’t like without blatantly saying they don’t like them

  • @chastitychastity3335

    @chastitychastity3335

    5 жыл бұрын

    Who Gotd or maybe that’s just the way he is? Ignorant lmao.

  • @almac808
    @almac8084 жыл бұрын

    "Hopsin has the intellectual capacity of a 14 year old atheist" - Anthony Fantano

  • @williamfranklinjohnson6454

    @williamfranklinjohnson6454

    4 жыл бұрын

    👌

  • @Hostefar

    @Hostefar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh ima 14 year old atheist

  • @Freqv

    @Freqv

    4 жыл бұрын

    And that is why a lot of people don’t take him too seriously, criticizing music is one thing but shitting on an artist and their intelligence is just disrespectful

  • @hloniphizwemthembu8143

    @hloniphizwemthembu8143

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're better off taking your own opinion seriously than Anthony Fantano

  • @Xannyphantom905

    @Xannyphantom905

    4 жыл бұрын

    He reminds me of every goofy little backpacker online who was "born in the wrong generation" and "misses the 90s" But they were born in 98

  • @Jay-dp5wp
    @Jay-dp5wp4 жыл бұрын

    most people don't even listen to the people they call corny, they just go off of what other people say on the internet

  • @rivalsoul9853

    @rivalsoul9853

    4 жыл бұрын

    Straight facts .

  • @carloshernandez3177

    @carloshernandez3177

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not really. It's just kinda true

  • @elijahhutchings7947

    @elijahhutchings7947

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @Terrapin47-s8y

    @Terrapin47-s8y

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tik Tok Ads eggsactly

  • @emory4641

    @emory4641

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is why I’m here

  • @Mousa2070
    @Mousa20705 жыл бұрын

    Logic wasn't called corny until after the everybody album . Thanks for likes

  • @miteshtari786

    @miteshtari786

    5 жыл бұрын

    until his song 1-800

  • @Tylerf962

    @Tylerf962

    5 жыл бұрын

    bigmacchicken ' yeah he was

  • @adhd1056

    @adhd1056

    5 жыл бұрын

    I believe that too

  • @roddyjack8

    @roddyjack8

    5 жыл бұрын

    bigmacchicken ' he change a lot when everybody came out

  • @nostalgicgod1801

    @nostalgicgod1801

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was a solid project executed horribly without having any dynamic in his rapping, first time his reused lines are actually potent and whole projects sounds extremely over preachy. After that it was down hill from there 😓

  • @FoshoTheOne
    @FoshoTheOne5 жыл бұрын

    Why they got Logic looking like a straight goofball in the thumbnail? 🤣💀

  • @tylerthecreation998

    @tylerthecreation998

    5 жыл бұрын

    FoshoGotFlow cuz he is one

  • @adhd1056

    @adhd1056

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tylerthecreation998 In good way

  • @MrTysonfish

    @MrTysonfish

    5 жыл бұрын

    AdHd 105 no in a bad way.

  • @Unknown-bh3oe

    @Unknown-bh3oe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cuz he corny

  • @Mel_709

    @Mel_709

    5 жыл бұрын

    He can’t help himself

  • @cowboy_broke
    @cowboy_broke4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine Hopsin walking up behind you in a dark alley.

  • @masaaguilar8126

    @masaaguilar8126

    4 жыл бұрын

    *Hopsin

  • @cancer5904

    @cancer5904

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey I will call your cell at seven if we are going thru we have to go get your kids stuff to get stuff to take them home 🏠 night and then go home 🏠 night night I I don’t want any more more to do that stuff stuff and stuff I I will do you have some more fun things I have stuff I have been going on on a long weekend with your your family so I’m just trying out some good fun I wanna I like it and it’s so nice 👍 I love 💔 it

  • @LSTORMTheMC

    @LSTORMTheMC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me: "what the f...Ho..Hopsin?" Hopsin- "Oh you know my name huh?? What's your favorite song by me?!(Cocks skateboard) Me-"Uhh." (Pulls out phone) Hopsin-"You Motherfucker!"

  • @gigatronusprime

    @gigatronusprime

    4 жыл бұрын

    @The Guy Nah, more like the guy who bashes your head in with a skateboard.

  • @majestymxnt7384

    @majestymxnt7384

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’d laugh lol

  • @drmarctagon
    @drmarctagon4 жыл бұрын

    Hopsin needs to start by ceasing to wear those "corny" contacts.

  • @jesufrito9617

    @jesufrito9617

    4 жыл бұрын

    That ain’t even half of it, his singing has a huge part to do with it along with his subject matter

  • @Leviathan_Art

    @Leviathan_Art

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eh that's subjective, it's like tell someone to cut their dreads so you can listen to their music. They'll thrive with or without you, so your demand doesn't weight much.

  • @drmarctagon

    @drmarctagon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Leviathan_Art A performer's success depends on his fans so if a bunch of fans have the same complaint and choose to stop supporting then it weighs more than you think. Secondly, no one is demanding anything. We're stating our opinions just like you did. Thanks and have a good day, sir.

  • @bootyant6983

    @bootyant6983

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a huge hopsin fan, but I think he's been done with the contacts for a while now

  • @sparkedupreactions

    @sparkedupreactions

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shit yall sound like females . Yall want rappers to look a certain way. Lol

  • @miteshtari786
    @miteshtari7865 жыл бұрын

    The rappers who act woke and think they are better than anyone when they are mediocre are corny imo. There are exceptions too

  • @miteshtari786

    @miteshtari786

    5 жыл бұрын

    the artists who act woke and think they are better than anyone but are mediocre are hopsin, lucas, cole, tom MacDonald. There are countless but these are the artists who came to mind

  • @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Nathan Gold You can speak on black subject matters and not be corny like killer mike. Cole, Joyner, Em(sometimes), Logic. All them mfs corny. Even gangsta rappers can be corny aka The Game.

  • @miteshtari786

    @miteshtari786

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Nathan Gold i meant to say early era cole who refused to do features but now he has improved very much and kills his features.

  • @serialhealer5113

    @serialhealer5113

    5 жыл бұрын

    Somebody explain me how Joyner Lucas is corny. What did he do, what did he say.

  • @spongebobroundpants4378

    @spongebobroundpants4378

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@miteshtari786 lmao hopsin jcole joyner are great you cornball

  • @Money2blow059
    @Money2blow0595 жыл бұрын

    Just because you rap about positivity doesn’t mean it’s good music

  • @GunnLeonn

    @GunnLeonn

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chance is fire af, his new album was eh but he is overhated

  • @cozmonet

    @cozmonet

    5 жыл бұрын

    lmao so what they supposed to rap about? being depressed and suicidal so their supporters do the same thing? yea aight

  • @GunnLeonn

    @GunnLeonn

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cozmonet ik right these people just hate being happy

  • @jhammaster

    @jhammaster

    5 жыл бұрын

    just because you rap about negativity doesn't mean it's good either.

  • @tochiRTA

    @tochiRTA

    5 жыл бұрын

    Truth. They'll figure this out eventually. And alot of these cats pushing 'positivity' are horrible people underneath who just wanna make money off your desire to conform and not rock the boat. Positivity and negativity are silly things to think about. It's about the honesty and execution of the music first.

  • @tofuteh2348
    @tofuteh23484 жыл бұрын

    I think most people just use "corny" for things they don't like now. Overused term.

  • @syr2615

    @syr2615

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah, like call everything "Overrated".

  • @mihirparanjape5315

    @mihirparanjape5315

    4 жыл бұрын

    Δηgει φεrεz yup

  • @robinsinghchauhan1834

    @robinsinghchauhan1834

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just like calling everyone a "racist" works now

  • @lizardking3569

    @lizardking3569

    4 жыл бұрын

    S Mavi it’s not stfu

  • @lizardking3569

    @lizardking3569

    4 жыл бұрын

    S Mavi bro I’m sorry 😐 it’s just that all of the rappers I listen to are called corny just because they are lyrically. It doesn’t make any scene.

  • @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
    @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance4 жыл бұрын

    Nobody found Chance The Rapper corny until 'The Big Day.' Not his best album, he is still one of the most unique this era.

  • @alexk.35

    @alexk.35

    4 жыл бұрын

    facts he’s still great, just a bad album

  • @natewill1587

    @natewill1587

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah how could you hate on the 10 day - acid rap - coloring book run each we’re so unique from each other and represented artistic growth that didn’t depart too heavily from its original style.

  • @Newtoschool

    @Newtoschool

    4 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people called Coloring Book corny. Including myself.

  • @dozy1103

    @dozy1103

    4 жыл бұрын

    definitely

  • @Dikwili

    @Dikwili

    4 жыл бұрын

    He’s been corny since the day my buddy tried to get me to listen to him. Just can’t do it. Never liked his whiny, off beat style

  • @AhmadUsufzy
    @AhmadUsufzy5 жыл бұрын

    J Cole used to be called corny a lot more. It seems like the corny accusations have subdued since he's done all those features & dropped middle child.

  • @UzitheSaint

    @UzitheSaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    I never really considered him corny even when born sinner came out and never felt that he was tryna act cool though

  • @majestymxnt7384

    @majestymxnt7384

    5 жыл бұрын

    I really don't see why lol. He had done nothing but stay to himself and make music he likes. What's corny about that? 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Jadoniah

    @Jadoniah

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard anyone call jcole corny ever

  • @majestymxnt7384

    @majestymxnt7384

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Jadoniah It be them Kanye To The niggas. And how corny is that to be on a website with that name 😂

  • @ashtonprasad6154

    @ashtonprasad6154

    5 жыл бұрын

    K!NG MXNT so true bro. mans focused on his music and his music only. never directly got into rap beefs with no other poppin artists. thats what rappers today lack. they always bite off of other’s successes by either stealing their cadence or calling them out in some form. cole been on the come up, the hustle, the chase and has been studying the greats for years. now look at him. u cant compare him to no other artist rn

  • @Thehintercast
    @Thehintercast5 жыл бұрын

    The problem is instead of saying how they feel on a track and letting us learn from how they think, they tell you how to think or say the way you think is dumb. That’s corny

  • @nateclark8208

    @nateclark8208

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thehintercast really good observation you are completely right

  • @banishedbary5239

    @banishedbary5239

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hopsin is #1 example of what you're saying

  • @eastwaters4082

    @eastwaters4082

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@banishedbary5239 Except a couple ILL Minds is from his experience and opinion.

  • @chrismalinowski654

    @chrismalinowski654

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yet he talks down on people while doing that

  • @kaidne

    @kaidne

    5 жыл бұрын

    VinexTine yeah but i feel thats mostly old hopsin

  • @JoshMcAllisterSK8
    @JoshMcAllisterSK84 жыл бұрын

    To me, Corny is lame, goofy, childish. Just because someone is different or going against popular opinion doesn’t make them corny.

  • @HiBrid9

    @HiBrid9

    3 жыл бұрын

    So all three ways you use corny is wrong 😂 i see the problem

  • @saintbabylon7250

    @saintbabylon7250

    3 жыл бұрын

    nah, trying too hard to push an already obvious message can be cringe and corny. Logic does that a lot. Even being unrealistic which his forced suicidal “hotline number” song had all the above. imo where he even yelled “who can relate” just really turned off most people who really dealt with suicidal tendencies. Logic even admits of never really experiencing any real issues or being in that mind set he just really wanted to see what he could do if he actually tried to play hero & save people lives hearing that some of his fans told him that his music saved them before when he wasn’t trying which seem to go over his head in thats how it’s suppose to work & most artist who are told that don’t let it get to their heads the why logic did which was obvious to a lot of people as well. there is a lot of different rappers out there who aren’t corny cause they don’t have show that “try hard” mentality in their music constantly like Hopsin, Logic & some of the ones on this list do.

  • @tupla1122

    @tupla1122

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@saintbabylon7250 I wouldent say being corny is a bad thing.. Like Logic. He is a positive guy and is good at rapping. Even if he hasent experienced all what he is talking about it dosent matter. If it sounds good and helps ppl at the same time... Theres a reason why these rappers are popular.

  • @kadencemay4969

    @kadencemay4969

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can be different without being corny Example, Danny Brown

  • @geralt8394
    @geralt83944 жыл бұрын

    *You put Eminem on the thumbnail just so the suburban white folks might click on it, and you didn't even talk about him.* *Now that is real Corny.*

  • @dekaiaverett3265

    @dekaiaverett3265

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah wish he talked about him, Eminem is a perfect example of a rapper that was considered corny early on, got less corny, and then got about as corny as it gets.

  • @geralt8394

    @geralt8394

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dekaiaverett3265 When i was young i used to think Eminem is as cool as it gets, even his most corny song(Fack) was just cool to me. Now in hindsight he was corny

  • @geralt8394

    @geralt8394

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dekaiaverett3265 remember when he dissed bush, that was kinda corny but damn he knocked it out the park with the trump diss.

  • @dekaiaverett3265

    @dekaiaverett3265

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marshall Cohen Carter Yeah, Eminem is a super talented rapper, his discography is just really inconsistent.

  • @Kid_Naps

    @Kid_Naps

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah man it worked but still, he good and a lot of fun, even back with D12

  • @hecatrice2064
    @hecatrice20645 жыл бұрын

    You can't satisfy the hip hop community with anything anymore

  • @colemandustun883

    @colemandustun883

    5 жыл бұрын

    Every body a crittic

  • @jordanwebster1728

    @jordanwebster1728

    4 жыл бұрын

    coleman dustun even worse, some think they’re the judge of whether something is objectively good or bad and call others stupid for liking things they don’t.

  • @BOAYang

    @BOAYang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fantano's shitty fan base ruined hip hop.

  • @purpp-esque1711

    @purpp-esque1711

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BOAYang Fantano is god.

  • @obamadrake4535

    @obamadrake4535

    4 жыл бұрын

    Johnny Richardson melon doesn't even like hip hop

  • @DCT97
    @DCT975 жыл бұрын

    I’ve honestly never heard anyone call J.Cole corny. As a matter of fact I thought he was pretty popular lol.

  • @simonf9856

    @simonf9856

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hear most people call him boring.

  • @arthurwolfgramm4823

    @arthurwolfgramm4823

    4 жыл бұрын

    Many call him corny

  • @dillon6320

    @dillon6320

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can be corny and popular.

  • @joker_views

    @joker_views

    4 жыл бұрын

    Almost everyone I know calls him trash lmfao

  • @dillon6320

    @dillon6320

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joker_ Views that’s because you don’t know people who listen to real hip hop.

  • @v12val
    @v12val3 жыл бұрын

    When people call Logic corny, I usually hear the point that he says the same thing in every song. Which is funny because Juice WRLD talks about his pain with taking drugs, NLE Choppa talks about guns, DaBaby talks about cars and women, Polo G talks about how he’s sad all the time, DDG talks about how he’s not a KZreadr and people are sleeping on him, Eminem talks about how he went from a nobody to the biggest rapper ever, and Cardi B talks about sex… in every song they make. So yeah, might as well roast every music creator ever.

  • @D00Rb3LL

    @D00Rb3LL

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is what i’ve been saying

  • @Deadpool-px2nm

    @Deadpool-px2nm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but u cant call most of those rappers corny cuz they talking abt real shit anyway... real experiences, THEIR experiences (except for maybe DDG, whining bout how people sleep on u all the time is mad corny). theres a difference between all that and idk, me rapping bout drugs when i dont even do that shit. thats corny as for logic, like homeboy in the vid pointed out, it gets tiring to hear preachy shit all the time. no one's rly a fan of goody two-shoes, sorry to tell u this my guy (tho ill admit i like some of logic's songs)

  • @wildsidetv313

    @wildsidetv313

    Жыл бұрын

    logic is corny because he doesn't have a style of his own the other rappers you said might talk about the same thing in every song but they do it with style logic doesn't

  • @bucko5999

    @bucko5999

    Жыл бұрын

    Every artist you just named including logic is corny asf. I don’t care how many people like juice wrld his music simply isn’t that good. Everyone has opinions on music, I totally get why people like logic and I also totally get why people hate him. Me personally I’ve always hated lyrical rap. People think the only way to make a “good” rap song is through stories or lyrics.

  • @Chandiwila999

    @Chandiwila999

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@bucko5999 Juice is actually good tf you on

  • @OfficialJPryde
    @OfficialJPryde4 жыл бұрын

    I think you forget that the Game has had a lottttt of corny moments.

  • @afropick93

    @afropick93

    4 жыл бұрын

    FACTS

  • @everettfanor1989

    @everettfanor1989

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joey badass and Tyler comes off corny

  • @prod.rhodamine

    @prod.rhodamine

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@everettfanor1989 naaaaaaah neither or them are corny

  • @Xannyphantom905

    @Xannyphantom905

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@prod.rhodamine Tyler is a ball juggler. He's excommunicated

  • @LSTORMTheMC

    @LSTORMTheMC

    4 жыл бұрын

    💯💯💯🤷‍♂️I'm a fan too but damn

  • @malhaar2271
    @malhaar22715 жыл бұрын

    Using the word 'corny' has become quite corny

  • @ItsDevv

    @ItsDevv

    5 жыл бұрын

    Honestly

  • @nitelife383

    @nitelife383

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tbh

  • @boocuffs4368

    @boocuffs4368

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tbh

  • @guptar86

    @guptar86

    5 жыл бұрын

    YES

  • @emgo-at7398

    @emgo-at7398

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean. U just used it...so does that make ur statement corny? Dang...i just mentioned it...does that make my response corny? I think I just contradicted my self but im not sure. Maybe i should stop but i dont think I am but if i do right now then maybe it can lead to something great. Or bad. But then again I must stop one day and I will right so yeah

  • @AFO_AnalyRics
    @AFO_AnalyRics5 жыл бұрын

    Mumble rappers get excused for the same reason comedians get excused for making rape jokes. They don't claim to be authority, they're just here for the fun of it; and their fans understand and accept them for that. But if you come into the game with that conscious/social commentary mentality, wanting to be taken seriously........you better bring it for real. It's absolutely fair.

  • @kikasse220

    @kikasse220

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perfectly explained

  • @Waluigi-vr4qz

    @Waluigi-vr4qz

    5 жыл бұрын

    AFO yes finally someone who gets it, this is the reason logic is seemed as corny while a rapper like Lil pump isent

  • @AFO_AnalyRics

    @AFO_AnalyRics

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Waluigi-vr4qz that's just what it is, bro. If you wanna act and rap like you have the answers, it's only fair that you get the questions. I've never heard LilPump try to suggest to me how I should live my life.......but then again, I've actually never heard Lil Pump. ;)

  • @hyperallie01

    @hyperallie01

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, i still hate rape jokes lmao. Who legit enjoys those jokes?

  • @ZeezusSource

    @ZeezusSource

    5 жыл бұрын

    Onefaced Shut up don’t start this...

  • @faithhall9912
    @faithhall99124 жыл бұрын

    “a young uncle not as cool as he thinks he is” THAT HAD ME ROLLING LMAO

  • @Skenjbear

    @Skenjbear

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cole is cool though'

  • @orlanzo2621
    @orlanzo26214 жыл бұрын

    I've never seen Cole as "corny" at all, at no point in his career.

  • @JakeGittes84

    @JakeGittes84

    4 жыл бұрын

    I fuck hard with Cole but the dude basically comes across as an incel at times.

  • @boomerthedingo2196

    @boomerthedingo2196

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JakeGittes84 the incel with a wife who he dedicated a beautiful verse to in a song that didnt release that long ago Nice one SJW

  • @JakeGittes84

    @JakeGittes84

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@boomerthedingo2196..and? I said at times. No Role Modelz for example was released before he wifed that. SJW? Oh boy that's the first time I've been called that. If only you knew how far off you are.

  • @drunkenn1nja

    @drunkenn1nja

    4 жыл бұрын

    JJ Gittes LMAOOO INCEL

  • @richicamacho7989

    @richicamacho7989

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same. He was always a "woke" rapper but never over the top like Logic and Macklemore

  • @Thejusticetwins
    @Thejusticetwins5 жыл бұрын

    in case y’all didn’t know, logic is mixed ok

  • @rolfstv7972

    @rolfstv7972

    5 жыл бұрын

    makenna.renee you wild for this one

  • @JennaLeigh

    @JennaLeigh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Omg i had no idea! You'd think at some point he might mention it. 😂😂😂😂

  • @3eezy

    @3eezy

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JennaLeigh he did alot actually in his music LMAO

  • @JennaLeigh

    @JennaLeigh

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@3eezy fuckin WHOOOOOOOOOSH

  • @3eezy

    @3eezy

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ih-1509 I know Lmao

  • @jd5726
    @jd57265 жыл бұрын

    People have no idea what corny means these days

  • @AikiraBeats

    @AikiraBeats

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @Bendanna93

    @Bendanna93

    5 жыл бұрын

    There's a lot of words like that.

  • @mikesenzedayinthelife1438

    @mikesenzedayinthelife1438

    5 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @christianjoseph6502

    @christianjoseph6502

    5 жыл бұрын

    7even sellos I think it’s because people like logic pretend to be deep and lyrical and nobody who just wants to listen to a banger really cares

  • @almostalways

    @almostalways

    5 жыл бұрын

    Corny is the equivalent of cringe but not as bad

  • @newpancakeman
    @newpancakeman4 жыл бұрын

    “Family friendly” isn’t corny. Kurtis Blow and Run DMC didn’t curse, and where would rap be without them Edit: This point is dumb because corny doesn’t start until oversaturation but have y’all heard the Spiderverse soundtrack?

  • @moresoulthanasockwithahole3493

    @moresoulthanasockwithahole3493

    4 жыл бұрын

    most of the 80s rap was actual trash. rakim and nwa were great tho

  • @owenwu-pac5418

    @owenwu-pac5418

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@moresoulthanasockwithahole3493 Run DMC, KRS, Public Enemy, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Kool Moe Dee, Melle Mel, Kool Keith. Bruh there's loads of great Rappers from the 80s

  • @shauncameron8390

    @shauncameron8390

    4 жыл бұрын

    Neither did Rakim.

  • @robertjackson1987

    @robertjackson1987

    3 жыл бұрын

    Run DMC did rap

  • @no1u521

    @no1u521

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kurtis Blow is one hit wonder

  • @ScubaStevex
    @ScubaStevex4 жыл бұрын

    If you think “no role modelz” is a misogynistic take, you don’t actually understand Forrest hills drive as an album in it’s entirety.

  • @PohTrain

    @PohTrain

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who tf cares about misogyny?

  • @cameronchilders3701

    @cameronchilders3701

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PohTrain People who are affected by misogyny I guessing.

  • @DennyBandz

    @DennyBandz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mind blown.

  • @yhb4682

    @yhb4682

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PohTrain Uhhh.....idk woman? Your comment slow ash lol

  • @EJD339

    @EJD339

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cameronchilders3701 Ah man. Your response had me dying. Fair point.

  • @beinerthchitivamachado874
    @beinerthchitivamachado8745 жыл бұрын

    Corny is putting Eminem in the thumbnail, for clickbait.

  • @AdolphSaxOfficial

    @AdolphSaxOfficial

    5 жыл бұрын

    Corny is being clickbaited by Eminem

  • @benisscrenis745

    @benisscrenis745

    5 жыл бұрын

    AdolphSaxOfficial corny is hating Eminem for music that is still better than your favourite rapper

  • @oshin_aykaz6889

    @oshin_aykaz6889

    5 жыл бұрын

    Benis Screnis what if im a Kendrick fan?😳

  • @basedangel7230

    @basedangel7230

    5 жыл бұрын

    Beinerth Chitiva Machado Eminem is mad corny lmao just because you can rap well doesn’t make you cool

  • @maximusrusso8758

    @maximusrusso8758

    5 жыл бұрын

    Making an album hating new school “mumble rap” is corny.

  • @jst4ubeats785
    @jst4ubeats7855 жыл бұрын

    People can sense fake. Simple as that. That’s why rappers like Russ get that label. They always say things that are general knowledge when they should be rapping about their own perspectives on topics they deem important. I.e. don’t say “Ronald Reagan was evil” say, “Ronald Reagan’s presidency affected me in this way”

  • @KA-vz1ek

    @KA-vz1ek

    5 жыл бұрын

    JID had a bar saying Ronald Reagan was racist af and I don't think he's corny for it

  • @jst4ubeats785

    @jst4ubeats785

    5 жыл бұрын

    K A Well honestly JID has a reputation for begging a talented rapper but I still think that bar is corny. Unless he further describes why Reagan is racist. Rappers like logic though talented are known for having a ton of corny bars. So much so that they become memorable for that.

  • @MrBlackPositiveandInteresting

    @MrBlackPositiveandInteresting

    5 жыл бұрын

    People can't sense anything. People are just better than others at faking it.

  • @jst4ubeats785

    @jst4ubeats785

    5 жыл бұрын

    me jr maybe recognize would have been better. But even if they are good at faking it, they must be somewhat intrigued by what they are talking about to come up with actual “deep” bars and bring original ideas to the table for us to enjoy.

  • @RobGradyVO

    @RobGradyVO

    5 жыл бұрын

    T H I S

  • @AntonFlores-qh5ro
    @AntonFlores-qh5ro4 жыл бұрын

    “But call a n**** corny when you hear he got a message.” -Denzel Curry

  • @jesseafrika9362
    @jesseafrika93624 жыл бұрын

    I hate people saying a rapper is "corny" just because you don't like that rapper

  • @shtickeh9715

    @shtickeh9715

    4 жыл бұрын

    corny and trash are different though

  • @clarencegboddicker8144

    @clarencegboddicker8144

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jessi Muni you hating what Other people feel is pretty corny!

  • @jamylhurtado

    @jamylhurtado

    4 жыл бұрын

    Clarence G Boddicker stfu

  • @gobot581

    @gobot581

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are a lot more trash rappers than corny rappers

  • @jamylhurtado

    @jamylhurtado

    4 жыл бұрын

    go bot like Blue face

  • @griffinnorth6448
    @griffinnorth64485 жыл бұрын

    Puts Eminem in thumbnail doesn’t even talk about him...

  • @dwikinugraha6804

    @dwikinugraha6804

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bcoz hes not

  • @ggallintedtalk

    @ggallintedtalk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dwiki X Nugraha He is 🤣

  • @Tha_Thiccness

    @Tha_Thiccness

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ggallintedtalk sometimea

  • @tigerboy7585

    @tigerboy7585

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ggallintedtalk STFU he is not.

  • @SandhuNation7

    @SandhuNation7

    5 жыл бұрын

    He is not

  • @noahgoat8341
    @noahgoat83415 жыл бұрын

    Under pressure by Logic was fire he ruined his own career with everybody

  • @christianjoseph6502

    @christianjoseph6502

    5 жыл бұрын

    NBD Void who can relate WWWWWOOOOO

  • @anonymouspersona4965

    @anonymouspersona4965

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@isthiscarter stfu please

  • @lsgold5053

    @lsgold5053

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@isthiscarter it really wasn't

  • @ItsDevv

    @ItsDevv

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@isthiscarter ah ha ha...

  • @bigant3601

    @bigant3601

    5 жыл бұрын

    But logic is making so much money now his career has been taking off lately

  • @jaredbenton8005
    @jaredbenton80054 жыл бұрын

    I feel like you are considered corny if 1. You aren’t hood/hard/intimidating 2. Aren’t riding popularity waves ( juice world, uzi, yachty) 3. Don’t have the Kendrick personality if I’m gonna say whatever tf I want and Idgaf if this album flops or goes platinum.

  • @SpeedyUsher
    @SpeedyUsher3 жыл бұрын

    Hopsin and J Cole are far from corny. Every rapper has a few corny bars here and there.

  • @aleclussier6157
    @aleclussier61575 жыл бұрын

    This was a much needed video after how brutally elementary all of chances bars were in big day. That dude came out with the corniest album.

  • @mitchelldervin9602

    @mitchelldervin9602

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alec Lussier I didn’t even give it a chance😬😬do I? Or should I stay away from it

  • @phos4680

    @phos4680

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mitchelldervin9602 it is okay but too long

  • @aleclussier6157

    @aleclussier6157

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mitchelldervin9602 I'd say stay away. We go high is the only song that gives an old chance vibe but the vocals on the hook are horrendous.

  • @lucascongdon309

    @lucascongdon309

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alec Lussier like the Quavo album that dropped last year

  • @P2k23P

    @P2k23P

    5 жыл бұрын

    Facts....I think it should be labeled a pop album

  • @claudiofunes1380
    @claudiofunes13805 жыл бұрын

    Oooohhhh i love my wifeeeeee i love my wife AGH

  • @claudiofunes1380

    @claudiofunes1380

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chigozie Ozor chances bonus track

  • @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf

    @KaizerBeatz-vf9wf

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Chance loves his wife though. I’ve heard she’s handsome

  • @rogercyuzuzo9819
    @rogercyuzuzo98194 жыл бұрын

    Logic : i'm 2% African , so as a black man i feel pain for what my ancest.. Kendrick Lamar : .....ok i'm out

  • @grahamturner2640

    @grahamturner2640

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rozay Cy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @v12val

    @v12val

    3 жыл бұрын

    50% but yeah

  • @ZeRo-yc7zf

    @ZeRo-yc7zf

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s just kind of repulsive when someone tries so hard to prove something to you. People are gonna think of logic as someone who really wants everyone to think he’s a black rapper that made it out of the struggle like much of the greats before him and that he knows how it feels. The dude has great talent and a message but people are gonna remember him for repeatedly pushing that narrative when he didn’t need to to find success

  • @davidblancarte4839
    @davidblancarte48394 жыл бұрын

    I feel like rappers are labeled corny if they are lyrical but aren't trying to be pretentious "woke" artist.

  • @bundymasala
    @bundymasala5 жыл бұрын

    Hopsin is corny because of him dissing rappers in almost every song for attention and always comparing himself to his peers. Logic is considered corny because he doesn’t really have an diverse style in his music and a lot of people seem to look at him like a fast rapper that hops on new waves to the point where it gets boring.

  • @failurez4387

    @failurez4387

    5 жыл бұрын

    guess what slim shady and 50 cent did to get attention

  • @geekmac9349

    @geekmac9349

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that was early Hopsin back on his Raw and Knock Madness albums but ever since then he hasn‘t really done this anymore but the reputation still follows him cause the people didn‘t bother to take another look at his music and see how much he has grown since then

  • @failurez4387

    @failurez4387

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Nathan Gold true 50 can fuck u up lyrically and irl too where em is just a nerd bookworm trying hard

  • @plutob6868

    @plutob6868

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@failurez4387 nerd? Bookworm? Are you dumb? Stfu

  • @youinadecade9149

    @youinadecade9149

    5 жыл бұрын

    "50 cent can't be corny because he was shot!!! Unlike M&M!!!1!!1" "M&M is a skinny bookworm that's why he's corny!!!1!" So at this point you guys aren't even comparing music and just judging by physically appearance on who's cornier because y'all know both em and 50 did the same shit and don't wanna call both corny? Yeah this is why this corny debate is absolutely retarded. You guys are self aware of the double standard and abide with it for no reason...

  • @DonDaddaDanoDaDaneCalledDanno
    @DonDaddaDanoDaDaneCalledDanno5 жыл бұрын

    It changes all the time. Depends on presentation and perspective. What's dope today, might be toxic tomorrow.

  • @kbo8385

    @kbo8385

    5 жыл бұрын

    You said it

  • @meepding3259
    @meepding32595 жыл бұрын

    Bruh I clicked on this vid with Russ in my mind 😂

  • @vinnyhughes007
    @vinnyhughes0074 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people who say someone is corny, don't even listen to that artist. Especially one like Hopsin. They hear other people talk about lines like "Did the man who invented college, go to college?" and hop on the bandwagon of hate.

  • @MrTambourineMan.

    @MrTambourineMan.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vipul Konnur whats your definition of corny and how do you feel Hopsin exemplifies that?

  • @roquea.deleon6175
    @roquea.deleon61755 жыл бұрын

    Seriously just listen to whatever you like. Thats the beauty of the current era is we can easily listen to and find whatever music we want. If i like the music or the song I could give a damn what anyone else thinks.

  • @faithtomorrow

    @faithtomorrow

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right, all this analyzing is too much and highly subjective.

  • @LSTORMTheMC

    @LSTORMTheMC

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙌🙌🙌💯

  • @staticbeans

    @staticbeans

    4 жыл бұрын

    you a logic and russ fan

  • @gobot581

    @gobot581

    4 жыл бұрын

    The issue is people who like corny rappers have to push that music to try and validate that they aren’t corny

  • @pyrex5594

    @pyrex5594

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gobot581 it’s an issue because y’all make it one. They’re just listening to what whatever they want, and for whatever reason that offends people nowadays lmfao

  • @dirtybirdxx
    @dirtybirdxx5 жыл бұрын

    You can be super positive in your hip hop music you just gotta have some juice with it brah and some soul with it. Curren$y's music is pretty positive nd not one bit of corny in him. He has juice

  • @eriklight5321

    @eriklight5321

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you someone who makes sense

  • @realityofx-avi3749

    @realityofx-avi3749

    4 жыл бұрын

    Curren$y grew up around real ones and came up with real ones. If he ever done something that was a bit corny, his Og's would check him.

  • @qeezeeqee123

    @qeezeeqee123

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also it’s lowkey about how U feel . Anyone who doesn’t vibe w their music is gonna call it corny cus they have nothing else to say in order to critique a song. It’s just a short word for i don’t have a fucking vocabulary, I don’t like this, this is corny

  • @billballinger5622

    @billballinger5622

    4 жыл бұрын

    yea man those jet life dudes are cool, dont try to hard for a certain image just doin their thing

  • @Lucasmiller6969
    @Lucasmiller69693 жыл бұрын

    yall talking about these rappers being corny. yet every rapper has te same video clip with money, drugs, cars, girls etc. and somehow that is not corny?

  • @forbiddenXsanctuary
    @forbiddenXsanctuary4 жыл бұрын

    Lol at the time Hopsin was trying too hard to be like eminem and started calling out rappers that would end his career

  • @user-em1dl6jk1j

    @user-em1dl6jk1j

    4 жыл бұрын

    I could only name 1 rapper that could even come remotely close to ending Hopsin’s career and thats Kendrick. Everyone else is leagues below Hopsin in terms of skill, music, practically everything

  • @kenneth2312

    @kenneth2312

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@user-em1dl6jk1j Most of that shit doesnt matter anymore its popularity that wins beef.

  • @user-em1dl6jk1j

    @user-em1dl6jk1j

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damien Trites Yes, better music than all of them...except Nas Although Pun and Big are both dead and im talking about current rappers

  • @user-em1dl6jk1j

    @user-em1dl6jk1j

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damien Trites Actually i just realized the context to this video, I was only talking about the people that he dissed. Hence why i said Kendrick And you dont have to talk to me for having a different opinion. I just have a different perference of music You wont change that

  • @MCLSD_

    @MCLSD_

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damien Trites yeah I was rooting for this guy till he said hopsin makes better music than the roots and them lmfao. Lowkey hopsin just has some fire bars but his hooks always lacking

  • @badweather7144
    @badweather71445 жыл бұрын

    Tom MacDonald is corny asf don't @ me

  • @TheOfficialSlimber

    @TheOfficialSlimber

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bad Weather Most the white rappers are corny af.

  • @aliathif7778

    @aliathif7778

    5 жыл бұрын

    No question, dude is so corny especially his tracks about being black

  • @imnotactuallydead8890

    @imnotactuallydead8890

    5 жыл бұрын

    He’s the corniest rapper ever

  • @liamwebster6844

    @liamwebster6844

    5 жыл бұрын

    He put out some good diss tracks on mac lethal tho

  • @Dizaster0719

    @Dizaster0719

    5 жыл бұрын

    Liam Webster yeah his second track, first track was ass

  • @sadmeme668
    @sadmeme6685 жыл бұрын

    “I’m the best in my field like a slave” 🗿

  • @demzajshorts2280

    @demzajshorts2280

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Sad Meme Who said that?

  • @sadmeme668

    @sadmeme668

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stinga TV logic

  • @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sadmeme668 lmaooooo

  • @lilsuccsucc8402

    @lilsuccsucc8402

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao

  • @DaKFPS

    @DaKFPS

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s an Homage to his song Slave

  • @Lorenzo_631
    @Lorenzo_6313 жыл бұрын

    For me corny artist are corny when you listen to their music and go "alright nigga we get it" like, alright we get it mumble rap is dumb, your biracial, youre the most lyrical spiritual miracle rapper out there. Also, for Drake and J Cole they arent corny but just say some corny shit every now and again.

  • @browntown607
    @browntown6074 жыл бұрын

    Why are most of the real artists considered corny?

  • @rarecandy3445

    @rarecandy3445

    4 жыл бұрын

    Brown Town cause they ride off of clowns that try to determine who is real or not. just cause you dont like one artist doesnt make them not real.

  • @KungFoo1

    @KungFoo1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! The uncorny artists are the ones who claim to be murderers

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    there's no "real" artists that are considered corny lmao, they're considered cornballs because they are actually corny.

  • @whooked
    @whooked5 жыл бұрын

    corny is generic copy and paste rappers keeping saying words like vvs diamonds . drip and wet need to come more original and drake yes is corny

  • @gavincambridge9952

    @gavincambridge9952

    5 жыл бұрын

    ion whooked facts

  • @Dippa

    @Dippa

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello whooked nice to see you here lmao

  • @dub7088

    @dub7088

    5 жыл бұрын

    The rap fans who often complain about that stuff are often corny

  • @bryanmojica1517

    @bryanmojica1517

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dub Factz same ppl Who listen to Joyner Lucas

  • @paco6309

    @paco6309

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bryan Mojica ikr

  • @papaspicy8232
    @papaspicy82325 жыл бұрын

    Tyler did respond to hopsin in Buffalo off the album cherry bomb “bought some attention, givin it to hopsin”

  • @FYGUnkleUrple

    @FYGUnkleUrple

    5 жыл бұрын

    Correction, he poked at the beef that Hopsin attempted to start by replying to it like 2 albums after the fact. "Bought some attention, gave none to Hopsin."

  • @papaspicy8232

    @papaspicy8232

    5 жыл бұрын

    Team Scrublords I got one word wrong chill and by the way cherry bomb is the album

  • @bretw6576

    @bretw6576

    5 жыл бұрын

    PAPA SPICY He means two albums later timeline wise, not that it wasn’t cherry bomb

  • @papaspicy8232

    @papaspicy8232

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bret W I know I was just tired when I wrote it thanks tho :)

  • @fuze2096
    @fuze20965 жыл бұрын

    Chance ain’t corny. He won a humanitarian award. The dude real deal loves spreading positivity

  • @zhenyalandyak8258

    @zhenyalandyak8258

    3 жыл бұрын

    all fair and well, but what is an award worth? nothing.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    still corny lmao

  • @niggilywiggily

    @niggilywiggily

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zhenyalandyak8258 to show the type of person he is

  • @gamingassassin0139
    @gamingassassin01393 жыл бұрын

    This list isnt full of corny people,this comment section is.

  • @storiesforsuccess3102
    @storiesforsuccess31025 жыл бұрын

    Most of the rappers labeled “corny” are my favorite rappers. (Em, Joyner, Logic... ) I should probably say this for the people that find a way to get angry at this comment... I totally understand why you would think some of these guys are corny. I happen to like them. Sorry if that somehow upsets you that everyone doesn’t have the exact same opinions as you.

  • @Mousa2070

    @Mousa2070

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @treyhardin1518

    @treyhardin1518

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Stinnett bruh they label them corny because they original and have their own views on music and politics instead of all about cars money hoes diamonds doing drugs making every song a party song with a trap beat with simple words and name brand clothes and it’s funny how y’all say its corny for a lyrical rapper to be dissing mumble rappers when they diss everyone that listen to them half of the time calling broke and shit like that also they be dissing legends and I can link multiple videos of mumble rappers doing it so don’t say it ain’t true

  • @charlie7466
    @charlie74665 жыл бұрын

    *My Wife has entered the chat

  • @yudhvirsirkissoon

    @yudhvirsirkissoon

    5 жыл бұрын

    Said Chance the rapper

  • @mattw6399
    @mattw63994 жыл бұрын

    I'd take corny rappers all day, versus people who can't rap or mumble. They are at least trying to use their talent while others just don't have any..

  • @jtcmk

    @jtcmk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matt W heck mumble cRappers am i right XD

  • @bigol9223

    @bigol9223

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cope

  • @victorlopez347

    @victorlopez347

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hate that dumb term.

  • @thecoffeeshopat2am173

    @thecoffeeshopat2am173

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@victorlopez347 Which term corny or mumble rap?

  • @mo2k638

    @mo2k638

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hugo Bustillo There’s a difference between being a lyricist and being a lyrical miracle spiritual that’s far worse then being a mumble rapper I really can’t stand these fast rapping rappers tryna be hip hop savior rhyming a whole bunch of shit without saying nothing

  • @nanabonsu2349
    @nanabonsu23494 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much any rapper without the street/gangsta/thug image can get put into the corny category by just being themselves.

  • @bandolierboy1908

    @bandolierboy1908

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s a damn shame

  • @abrahampalmer1153

    @abrahampalmer1153

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's why I don't listen to hip hop because most of it glorified dumb shit and ignorant niggas tbh I really don't like that type of energy in hip hop.

  • @wildsidetv313

    @wildsidetv313

    2 жыл бұрын

    The game is considered corny but he's a street rapper so that's a lie

  • @turo302
    @turo3025 жыл бұрын

    I love how you pointed out how corny Juice wrld, uzi, yatchty, thug, etc. are, yet they dont get called corny because they literally rap about nothing lol

  • @cadubem10

    @cadubem10

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thugga not corny never has been

  • @turo302

    @turo302

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kadu Lagos yeah no, wearing dresses, rapping about not liking pussy or fucking his aunt , screeching nonsense into the mic, having some of the most awful lyrics in relevant hip hop. Definitely not corny 😂

  • @robertvdb2455

    @robertvdb2455

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@turo302 what you said just doesnt make him corny he got his own style and he is not trying to be anybody else than himself

  • @turo302

    @turo302

    5 жыл бұрын

    Robertvdb nah he’s corny

  • @Detroit.pri_

    @Detroit.pri_

    5 жыл бұрын

    Robertvdb He’s a watered down Lil Wayne with less pure rapping ability, a more feminine appearance and even less substance in his music. Definitely a conrball

  • @christianjoseph6502
    @christianjoseph65025 жыл бұрын

    “I love my wife” chance the rapper

  • @aaronwatkins98

    @aaronwatkins98

    5 жыл бұрын

    my wife is really young, my wife is really small

  • @XxPiipeflowxX
    @XxPiipeflowxX4 жыл бұрын

    I get why most of them are "corny" but Joyner Lucas? Really? Just because I'm not racist or what?

  • @khalyleedwards7735

    @khalyleedwards7735

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because he has too much songs where the goal seems to be triggering his audience

  • @JazminDiaz01

    @JazminDiaz01

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can never please anyone. All of the rappers mentioned are better then the trap rappers that literally rap about nothing. Logic, Joyner, Drake, J cole are corny? What 🤯🤯wow that’s insane. Meanwhile, trap music is thriving.

  • @claytondiersen2224

    @claytondiersen2224

    4 жыл бұрын

    The corniest of the corn balls

  • @styr7790
    @styr77905 жыл бұрын

    This mans really started his essay with "The dictionary defines corny as" 😂

  • @MrFlameRad
    @MrFlameRad5 жыл бұрын

    People literally just yell "CORNY" to rappers who are either too lyrical for them to understand, or too deep for them to care. Sadly, most casual hip hop fans only want to listen to rap that makes them bump in their car or miss their ex girlfriend. No one in the mainstream wants to hear actual bars anymore. I hate to say it, but I fear real hip hop is dying and it may never come back.

  • @jaleelkhaleeq

    @jaleelkhaleeq

    5 жыл бұрын

    real hip hop is dying everything you said is on point

  • @shauncameron8390

    @shauncameron8390

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Nathan Gold Exactly.

  • @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    @guardianofdeeznutz_7631

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Their bars are beyond your comprehension" yeah, okay.

  • @MrFlameRad

    @MrFlameRad

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Nathan Gold alright I'll accept that stance. Personally I appreciate most forms of hip hop. When I hear an artist spit bars, I lower the standard of how "vibey" should be for me to enjoy it, because I appreciate the work they put into their craft. If the artist has basic lyrics, I'll be bored if I don't hear an amazing beat and flow. But I guess that's just me If you don't know JID, check him out. He's gonna bridge the gap between lyrical rap and modern trap beat rap

  • @godofnothing428

    @godofnothing428

    5 жыл бұрын

    nayrad m jid is dope but how the he’ll is he too lyrical for people to understand or too deep. It’s shit like this that made me hate the Cole fan base.

  • @the6thman595
    @the6thman5955 жыл бұрын

    BREAKING NEWS: Chance the Rapper loves his wife😨

  • @joe_youtube

    @joe_youtube

    4 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know

  • @no.8466

    @no.8466

    4 жыл бұрын

    I bet it's a dude. Like his dad, Obama

  • @GarbageHillKids

    @GarbageHillKids

    4 жыл бұрын

    But logic is biracial

  • @shanewyatt9939
    @shanewyatt99395 жыл бұрын

    Ive watched 2;vids from this guy and he has called nearly every top selling rapper in the game corny

  • @Natty1620
    @Natty16205 жыл бұрын

    Joe Budden is the corniest that ever grabbed a mic. There, the channel may now be closed.

  • @CodenameM-v

    @CodenameM-v

    3 жыл бұрын

    His head already looks like a piece of corn

  • @JustMe-mo6xk
    @JustMe-mo6xk5 жыл бұрын

    You just highlighted why mumble/swag rap became So Popular. Ppl analyze every. single. bar. lyrical rappers give, and every message like they are just looking for the flaw. They Want to Shread. Ppl rank artists higher for having no bad songs, rather than if they have great ones. They rank albums the same. Lyrical rap fans are the problem.

  • @losingmymindrnbro

    @losingmymindrnbro

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, maybe if the people here made good music to begin with there wouldn’t be an argument of lyricism here lmao

  • @Elmamaguebo16

    @Elmamaguebo16

    5 жыл бұрын

    Livia Kai when lyricism is done right people will give the praise it deserves. Look at daytona and kids see ghosts last year

  • @IAMSTEFTV

    @IAMSTEFTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had to read twice. I realized this a while ago. People don't realize it's different rap for different occasions. A "Rap Fan" wants the songs that are mean to be broken down, every lyric analyzed and some skill shown but a casual listener just wants a catchy song that's cool to give them a feeling

  • @edwin99901

    @edwin99901

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fr. People don't even judge music by how the overall song sounds anymore. Everyone's a "critic" nowadays, therefore theyte listening to point out whats wrong with the music. That's a miserable way of listening to music. They'll never be able to appreciate music like how they used to before the internet because theyre now instilling everyone's opinions into their mind rather than forming an authentic one for themselves.

  • @BrotherMalMusic

    @BrotherMalMusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rap critics are nowhere near the reason that mumble rap became popular. Most mumble rappers couldn't rap "lyrically" in the first place, and don't plan to, and since there are nearly no "lyrical" bars in the first place, it's not like those artists created mumble rap because their "lyrical" rap was criticized. Most of those rappers just want to make money and be rich and famous. It's that simple.

  • @biggybwana6304
    @biggybwana63045 жыл бұрын

    Vic Mensa ruined his career by being too corny. Holding just needed to take those damn contacts out, lol.

  • @timkruse9912

    @timkruse9912

    5 жыл бұрын

    and him appearing on wild n out too many times didnt help lmao

  • @Waluigi-vr4qz

    @Waluigi-vr4qz

    5 жыл бұрын

    Biggy Bwana yeah Vic mensa is actually talented and at one point it seemed like he would be the new popular rapper but it enver happend because of him being so corny and preachy and just saying stupid shit. The songs i have heard from him are actually very good if it wasent for his personality i would have given him a Way bigger chance and i might even have been a fan of him

  • @hyperallie01

    @hyperallie01

    5 жыл бұрын

    And the x dissing.

  • @jayash2957

    @jayash2957

    5 жыл бұрын

    Skankhunt 42 well said it’s unfortunate

  • @s.o.i.5433

    @s.o.i.5433

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hyperallie01 I'm not a huge fan of X currently, but I was listening to him when Vic dissed him.

  • @sorethumbs379
    @sorethumbs3792 жыл бұрын

    Bragging about murder, destroying your own community and wasting generational wealth on depreciating jewelry/necklaces is the most corny sh*t anyone can do.

  • @majjkk999gaming6
    @majjkk999gaming64 жыл бұрын

    Corny or not, they make dope music

  • @Terrapin47-s8y

    @Terrapin47-s8y

    4 жыл бұрын

    Majjkk 999 Gaming not logic bruh

  • @pietropiva1376

    @pietropiva1376

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Terrapin47-s8y At least before Everybody...

  • @ShadowCloneJutsu97
    @ShadowCloneJutsu975 жыл бұрын

    Everybody always has to be a hater. If someone doesn’t like something they instantly label it corny. I respect all musicians even if I’m not a fan because I’m not the one taking a chance and putting my ideas out for millions to witness and I know none of these haters have the balls or talent to do that

  • @bigassdawg

    @bigassdawg

    5 жыл бұрын

    facts man, well said

  • @Ravensregen

    @Ravensregen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dopee

  • @rainbowredwood

    @rainbowredwood

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's funny because they are talking about how this rapper built his career on being a hater and he's consider corny for it.

  • @s.e.productions6882
    @s.e.productions68825 жыл бұрын

    How ironic... the narrator of this video is corny also. I’m not throwing shade. I’m just expressing the obvious.

  • @gigaman-8971
    @gigaman-89714 жыл бұрын

    so all these rappers considered "Corny" but reapeating gucci gang gucci gang over and over is ok? ...OK

  • @Kimura1313

    @Kimura1313

    4 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly but not using such an outdated song. All of these new rappers are corny as hell. Don’t mean they shit bad but they corny as hell.

  • @mistahmst

    @mistahmst

    4 жыл бұрын

    They’re ALL corny. Pushing any image whether it’s positive, negative, sipping lean, saving the planet, taking a shit, etc. with no real artistic drive or talent to deliver your message in an interesting way is corny.

  • @Wafflebro

    @Wafflebro

    4 жыл бұрын

    gucci gang isnt trying to spread a message, its just something to bump

  • @Siouxthenation

    @Siouxthenation

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agreed. Lil pump is ass

  • @isaacmattz204

    @isaacmattz204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh why do people always bring this up like you either loce logic and hate lil pump or hate logic and love lil pump. Fun fact: some people dislike both of them. I think logic is corny and i think lil pump is trash.

  • @REFR3SH
    @REFR3SH4 жыл бұрын

    Im surprised u didnt mention MGK... He trying to be someone he isn't

  • @misfitkid3926

    @misfitkid3926

    4 жыл бұрын

    REFR3SH really? Cause I think he’s kore himself now then he ever was

  • @stevienguyen2047

    @stevienguyen2047

    4 жыл бұрын

    MGK tries too hard to be the “wild boy” no pun intended. Other than nu metal suburban white kids no one fucks with MGK like that.

  • @stevensullivan5282

    @stevensullivan5282

    4 жыл бұрын

    Straight up MGK is the King of corny

  • @paoloanacleowong9813

    @paoloanacleowong9813

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stevensullivan5282 then Fergie is the queen of corny.

  • @dimebagsanchez

    @dimebagsanchez

    4 жыл бұрын

    “Hey guys Im MGK im a rockstar and have a lot of guitars and only know 4 chords”

  • @actualmilkjug4769
    @actualmilkjug47695 жыл бұрын

    In the thumbnail everyone's so serious but then logic over here

  • @BrianGlaze
    @BrianGlaze5 жыл бұрын

    All this proves is that people don’t know what they are talking about. It’s a subjective and worthless criteria that people throw out when they don’t like an artist.

  • @JakeGittes84

    @JakeGittes84

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everything about music is subjective, but that doesn't make it useless. If a rapper has been labeled corny, then it must mean MANY people are of that opinion. Now, I'm not saying many people thinking the same thing automatically makes it so, but it does legitimize that opinion to a certain extent.

  • @BrianGlaze

    @BrianGlaze

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JakeGittes84 You raise a fair point and I would agree with the exception that we are granting that people are using it in the way you have defined. The way I see most people using corny is quite useless. They basically say someone is corny if they don't like them. That isn't helpful at all and very subjective with little value.

  • @JakeGittes84

    @JakeGittes84

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BrianGlaze hmm, I see what you're saying and I have to agree. In this context, there is no objective definition of what corny is, so while a rapper can certainly be labeled corny, everyone might have a different idea of what corny is. I hear that!

  • @kylemendes7246

    @kylemendes7246

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@JakeGittes84 it doesnt legitimize shit, just because a thousand people believe something to be true doesnt make it true. or make it "sorta true". specially if its subjective, i mean thats the whole point of it being subjective is that it doesnt have a right answer. now if you want to have a opinion that the majority have just to be included than yes you could say there is a right answer socially.

  • @RILCOMusic
    @RILCOMusic4 жыл бұрын

    This was REALLY well done man, great work and great job picking this topic apart, Ive been waiting for someone to address the wave of cornyness thats been invading the rap industry.

  • @slxdeprod
    @slxdeprod4 жыл бұрын

    "Corny" is a false terminology, and one I find myself slipping into often due to people understanding what I mean by it. Truly, I think when most people use the term, they're referring to somebody who either blatantly opposes popular new movements in rap music in a seemingly vindictive way to lash out (think of Eminem's Kamikaze album or Ill Mind of Hopsin IV), somebody who's entire appeal is based around technicality in lyricism and flows (look at Logic, Eminem, or J Cole), or somebody just cashing in on a trend or image (Macklemore, Drake, Chance). A disclaimer, I don't think all of these artists are corny, just giving popular examples.

  • @AJ-zl1sr
    @AJ-zl1sr5 жыл бұрын

    I say “corny” meaning “preachy” Hopsins corny cos he’s constantly preachy and acts like he’s better than everyone. Same with Russ.

  • @AikiraBeats

    @AikiraBeats

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can agree with that one

  • @biggybwana6304

    @biggybwana6304

    5 жыл бұрын

    Plus he wears contacts.

  • @jonathandeas8592

    @jonathandeas8592

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@biggybwana6304 yes very gay

  • @tamerreziouk1

    @tamerreziouk1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Russ actually never said that he's better he just said "i did this i did that" and people started talking shit and wacking him so he just responded with facts. btw i agree with the rest of your comment

  • @MrRop-yp3wt

    @MrRop-yp3wt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jonathandeas8592 😂😂😂😂

  • @siranalysts8798
    @siranalysts87985 жыл бұрын

    Logic was once good but now is trash

  • @adhd1056

    @adhd1056

    5 жыл бұрын

    How so?

  • @ErrisOfficial

    @ErrisOfficial

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sir Analysts Ok let’s not lie in the comments, please..

  • @siranalysts8798

    @siranalysts8798

    5 жыл бұрын

    AdHd 105 his last project was his worst one. 😭

  • @ZergCheco

    @ZergCheco

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dtrix Lamar self explanatory, he’s fake woke; has no original flow (copies Kendrick, drake etc), exploited self harm for financial gain. What more?

  • @StarB0rne

    @StarB0rne

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everyone has their opinion , and we should he respectful for what they are and think . But I disagree and say didn't you listen to homicide?

  • @fadikamal6737
    @fadikamal67374 жыл бұрын

    By the logic of people nowadays, Tupac would’ve been called corny if he wrote “changes” today.

  • @vinnyhughes007
    @vinnyhughes0073 жыл бұрын

    All the rappers that people call "corny" are just called that because they don't fit the normal. They're all immensely talented and don't deserve that label. Especially Hopsin. People call him corny simply because he wears contacts as a gimmick. Like how lame do you have to be to hate on someone just because of something like that?

  • @ps-zs3wt
    @ps-zs3wt5 жыл бұрын

    Bro your videos are actually so good and mostly accurately portray hip hop and it's community but not this one. People rarely use corny in the sense of "sentimental to the point of not being genuine" people use corny when something causes them to cringe, there is sometimes overlap but most the time it's the cringe part like hopsin isn't considered cringe for him being mawkishly sentiment but for being "preachy" and it reflects more on the rebellious punk side of rap as young bucks don't want to listen to artists that have messages similar to their parents or teachers. That's why they like dumb shit about drugs and bitches.

  • @Max25670
    @Max256705 жыл бұрын

    Logic just lost on the genetics lottery, if he can came out as physically black instead of white, he wouldn't be so corny. If Logic looked black, he would not be reminding everyone that he is biracial every 10 seconds.

  • @lyricsanonymous9036

    @lyricsanonymous9036

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mad awkward when he drops N bombs

  • @UzitheSaint

    @UzitheSaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can see that, but I mean dude can't help it his dad was already mixed and his mom's white it's like adding water to soda or some shit idk

  • @canoncalloway3705

    @canoncalloway3705

    5 жыл бұрын

    9.5 Iron Mic we got tekashi and lil pump dropping that word with no hesitation

  • @juniorflores4542

    @juniorflores4542

    5 жыл бұрын

    Canon Calloway the difference is they say it with confidence and don’t even talk about race. Logic hesitates and always has to bring his race up to justify it.

  • @UzitheSaint

    @UzitheSaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@canoncalloway3705 that's true

  • @jaaykaay
    @jaaykaay4 жыл бұрын

    Chance look like his Mom drank a lot

  • @full-timepog6844

    @full-timepog6844

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @EmilyNicole505

    @EmilyNicole505

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @no.8466

    @no.8466

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea.. a lot of horse jizz

  • @bm7291

    @bm7291

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same thing Oprah Winfrey’s mom drank eyes 3 miles apart

  • @youngdrago2979
    @youngdrago29794 жыл бұрын

    Imagine criticizing Cole for a few bars🤣 People have to be perfect this times

  • @pietropiva1376

    @pietropiva1376

    4 жыл бұрын

    The contradiction is that we can accept our mistakes by saying we are not perfect...

  • @mokushmasmo6009

    @mokushmasmo6009

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean talking about his cringe ass bar isn't hating or critizing it's funny as hell

  • @DavidRealMusic
    @DavidRealMusic5 жыл бұрын

    Be Real, If people call you corny after that oh well. I'm a little old man corny.. I don't care. People going to find something to say.

  • @DavidRealMusic

    @DavidRealMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Enzi Gee Isnt corny super subjective though. How can you be less of something that shifts based on personal opinions. If you get what I mean.

  • @DavidRealMusic

    @DavidRealMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Enzi Gee for sure but I know people who think kdots mad corny and he is about as authentic as they come. And while I think Hop can come off corny sometimes he found an audience and success. I think if you're authentic your audience will find you. Trying to come off cool to everybody will be problematic because people are fickle and the standard is always changing.

  • @g-dub5272
    @g-dub52725 жыл бұрын

    Nick Cannon and Bow Wow should be in that thumbnail

  • @stevensullivan5282

    @stevensullivan5282

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@franciskebuchi1159 Well this didn't age well... I "invite" you to reconsider...🤔

  • @tyde4610
    @tyde46104 жыл бұрын

    Imagine dissing tyler the creator, especially back then when he was actually a rapper

  • @gero3015

    @gero3015

    3 жыл бұрын

    Poo poo ayo poo

  • @Gainsforlife
    @Gainsforlife3 жыл бұрын

    The biggest Corny category in Hiphop music stems from being too lyrical - focusing on world play more than other musical elements of a song. Think (Logic, Eminem at times, Joyner, Tyler the Creator, Hopsin & his contact lenses, lesser known rappers like token, tech 9ne, Royce da 5’9) drake can be excused as he is more a pop star than a rap star now his palette is too wide to simply call him a raper.

  • @ursamajor5234

    @ursamajor5234

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tyler is known for being musical.

  • @mr.paulino9318
    @mr.paulino93185 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I think is corny is not rapping clearly or straight up mumbling. The fact that "mumble rap" is even a thing is beyond corny it's disgusting. People would say Hopsin is corny, because he raps differently and is unique in his own way and then go on to say that a rapper rapping the same as everyone else is dope. Fuck that. Generic = Corny.

  • @averagecomment123
    @averagecomment1235 жыл бұрын

    I used to love hopsin, but as I've got older I've realised how corny he really is. The raw album is painful to listen to nowadays

  • @koyljosefranco6846

    @koyljosefranco6846

    5 жыл бұрын

    Daniel bruh how lmaoo

  • @KariMaleesha

    @KariMaleesha

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Who Gotd you consider mmlp corny? Okay

  • @godofnothing428

    @godofnothing428

    5 жыл бұрын

    Who Gotd whether it’s corny or not, it’s still a hot project, one of the best ever.

  • @KariMaleesha

    @KariMaleesha

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Who Gotd so you only listen to everything you can relate to? Cmon man don't be like that. Of course I dont relate to any of those you mentioned either but I cannot be denial for all the storytelling and for the overall project he managed to come up with. Everybody is entitled to have their opinions and I respect yours but if you can give mmlp a listen you'll see those points you just made were only 5% of the album.

  • @Lodatzor

    @Lodatzor

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then why not listen to his newer albums?

  • @jacobkiter5913
    @jacobkiter59134 жыл бұрын

    I actually hate how talented rappers with a sense of humor are called corny and people just hate on them for being good. Nice one hip hop community.

  • @demarcusdarius9096

    @demarcusdarius9096

    2 жыл бұрын

    The hip community is just garbage. Who cares what they think

  • @_Spider4

    @_Spider4

    8 ай бұрын

    that's not it

  • @AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents
    @AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for shouting out the amazing women on the come-up in the game now. It's always baffled me that a man with bare-minimum talent (like Drake), can have their success catapulted into the stratosphere, but when a woman like Noname or Rapsody can out-rap 90 percent of the dudes in the game today, they are slept on