The Controversial Life of Dream
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Today we'll look at the many controversies on the Minecraft KZreadr Dream.
0:00 Intro
0:26 Pewdiepie Minecraft Seed
2:46 Dream's Edgy Past
11:50 Ad Break
13:41 Dream VS. Stan Culture
26:27 The Speedrun Cheating Scandal
37:47 John Swan Drama
48:27 The Mask Music Video
55:05 Ex-Girlfriend Accusations
1:02:58 Doxxing Situation
1:06:06 Manatreed Allegations
1:12:34 Dream's Face Reveal
1:15:38 Twitchcon Disaster
1:18:36 Grooming Allegations
1:20:27 Outro
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@user-ll8ht1ug3b
Жыл бұрын
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@Mr.SpicyIce
Жыл бұрын
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@user-ll8ht1ug3b
Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.SpicyIce Same Profile picture, nice
@darksydeflow
Жыл бұрын
DSP
@jacobbrown4916
Жыл бұрын
sounds insanely corny
the bizarre thing about dream is that he always seems to get into controversy for the wrong reasons? people are calling him racist when they should actually just be calling him an idiot
@cirnopyramidcirnopyramid8796
Жыл бұрын
half the time i feel like this nigga deserves to be put on blast but then when it does happen its for the wrong reasons and it pisses me off cuz i hate this mans guts but i hate blasting someone for shitty reasons even more
@aemxo
Жыл бұрын
Haha racist or idiot...same difference 😂
@dotsdot5608
Жыл бұрын
yeh probably
@jordanford9320
Жыл бұрын
It's actually both. He's a racist and an idiot. He just tries to hide behind the veneer of I didn't know. So now I'm educated and then makes the same mistakes a month later. He's a grifter
@cliftonsargent1572
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
I never noticed how most of his fans would get offended for the literal tamest shit imaginable kinda makes me feel bad for him if he also wasn't an obnoxious person
@oiltycoonbillionaire
Жыл бұрын
He did this to himself he knew the audience he was pulling in
@mushrooman765
Жыл бұрын
@@oiltycoonbillionaire yeah that's very true, wouldn't have expected anything else from 'that' type of audience
@Pissant950
Жыл бұрын
solid james prof pic
@SMCwasTaken
Жыл бұрын
Being Edgy does not make you cool, don't use the "it was just a joke" excuse on me, go ahead call me a snowflake Edgelords, come at me Edgelords, this isn't bait, i dead believe this fr Edit: go ahead insult me, i'm not offended by anything you say
@MikeStavola
Жыл бұрын
I once said that his faked speedruns negatively impacted the speedrunning community, and I got threatened by a dozen people, and in some colorful ways in which I can't repeat.
Dream is very easy to dislike. Just how he acts and holds himself. Not to mention the weaponizing of his fan base.
@arieson7715
Жыл бұрын
I guarantee 100% he's a pedophile. It'll come out any second... any second...
@ermtosis
Жыл бұрын
i still wonder what makes people like him soo much? is it just becuz the manhunt content or his decently good minecraft skill at the time? this is way too hard to believe this guy is so successful in the way we really dont like
@PandaPelley
11 ай бұрын
@@ermtosis like most shitheels who fell into success it was a combination of kids being mouthbreathers, the algorithm pushing his content and the "content creator" type of mindset that encourages high volumes of mediocre content.
@strawberrymagpie
11 ай бұрын
@@ermtosisI don’t know, even his mannerisms are sort of annoying? I used to be a fan of him and even so I found him kind of annoying 😭 I didn’t actually like him as a person I don’t think, just his manhunts and stuff
@ermtosis
11 ай бұрын
@@strawberrymagpie same
This video was a rollercoaster, so many times where dream is unfairly criticised and yields, and then other times where he's clearly in the wrong and refuses to admit defeat. Strange guy
@itspfaff
6 ай бұрын
bro is just a manipulative idiot who shows his true colors on the issues that actually matter to him
I feel like Dreams biggest mistake was yelding to twitter, multiple times. He allowed the 14 year old girls to basically dictate what he was and wasnt suppose to be.
@starbucksicedteaman1211
Жыл бұрын
I think most people underestimate how old some dream stans are. For about half of last year I was in a online friend group at least sort of related to dreamsmp and there were college aged kids who were stans.
@Stardust_Torna
Жыл бұрын
Appealing to the masses just erases what you originally stand for just to appease the masses
@quinnisa_
Жыл бұрын
Garf
@JonHop1
Жыл бұрын
Yup.. he sold his soul to the woke child mob.. he went from a gun-toting, Trump-voting Florida man with a dad bod eating meat, to a woke lgbt vegan. 🤣
@sirmel11
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, some of these jokes aren't cool to make.
He had so much influence until he removed what made him different from everyone else around him
@hypotheticaltapeworm
Жыл бұрын
Oh, you're just like that one guy who got mad at (I think) Ninja and made a video on him for not being edgy anymore. Loser, grow up.
@kaiser9321
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what made him different, he just seemed like a Minecraft KZreadr with a poorly drawn avatar
@via45
Жыл бұрын
@@kaiser9321 it was his editing of his manhunt series and also his Minecraft skills
@hanakoisbestgirl4752
Жыл бұрын
This video is pretty much the first time I've even about him since the face reveal
@SMCwasTaken
Жыл бұрын
Being Edgy and having a auduence of Based Edgelord Teenagers that bully special needs kids does not make you a cool or good person Edit: go ahead, cry and jump at me edgelords, your insults do not offend me
i think whats so ironic, is Dream is now crying and whining over Quackity stans being toxic towards him, and Alex is staying silent. AS if Dream himself hadn't encouraged this crazy swarm of stans that follow his every move. Honestly if quackity replies it just adds more fuel to the fire. he does it to himself. by being so in touch and letting people build these parasocial relationships it brings everyone down.
@Nathi98
Жыл бұрын
Quackity cut out a guy that was his best friend for 5 whole years over something no one to this day knows shit about, he will have no issue cutting off his ex co-worker
@critterchild
Жыл бұрын
@@Nathi98 i get that but it’s minecraft drama- i frankly just don’t care and most people shouldn’t care. if people didn’t give as much as a fuck over minecraft streamers nobody would have any issue. we don’t know these people. you don’t know what happens behind the scenes.
@critterchild
Жыл бұрын
@@Nathi98 “something no one knows about to this day” you’re failing to see that point that it’s a “private” matter. if you handle bad situations with your friends and family i would hope you didn’t put it on blast on social media. you know? dream puts all his business on blast. and not for nothing, quackityhq “stans” before dream smp were NOWHERE near as vile as they are now that he’s then ingaged that much more with his audience. making more angry fans :/
@Nathi98
11 ай бұрын
@@critterchild The hell you mean "I fail to see this as a private matter"? Ofc I know it's private. I don't need to know why their contact to eachother was cut I don't appreciate this lecture, this was unwarranted...
@critterchild
11 ай бұрын
@@Nathi98 ironic, you replied to me, and in your initial message you literally said that “nobody knows why” my response to you is “no shit Sherlock it’s private” the “lecture” isn’t unwarranted if you replied to me with one of your own silly.
a lot of the times the “controversies” aren’t the problem, it’s the way he responds to them. he’s gotten into so many little situations that could easily be forgiven, but he responds like a complete immature idiot who has no respect for anyone other than himself. he makes his issues worse by the way he responds by going out of his way to attack people and it makes him look so much worse when it’s actively encouraging his stan’s to go after people too. he’s a terrible role model for his young audience and influences them to attack others. i understand he has an incredibly big audience and cannot he held accountable for what they all do, but when he actively encourages them by saying how much he loves his stans and never tells them they’re going overboard, it becomes absurd.
While Dream didn't really do anything wrong by campaigning for the Glow Squid, I will never let go of the fact that he's responsible for us not getting the flower cow which would have been infinitely better
@piranhalettuce
Жыл бұрын
I hate Mob Votes in general, Mojang should've just give us all three of the mobs.
@infsm27
Жыл бұрын
@PiranhaLettuce it's a double edged sword, in the same update you could get the best edition to the game in a while, while at the same time getting another Phantoms situation where everyone hates the new mob
@NONE.Dragon
Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong? He basically did Vote manipulation. They do that sht in politics.
@infsm27
Жыл бұрын
@@NONE.Dragon you're linking politics to minecraft?
@catcat4697
Жыл бұрын
@@infsm27 Minecraft is the only game where you're dependent on capitalistic pigs to speedrun the game....
How hard is it to just play minecraft and not do anything controversial lmao
@spellboundsuccubus3268
Жыл бұрын
literally
@OrcPerthro
Жыл бұрын
Apparently really difficult since most oh em are controversial
@ace_d3tective
Жыл бұрын
Fr though like can't you just play Minecraft and chill? Why need to do some controversial stuffs 💀
@hardVatsuki
Жыл бұрын
Minecrafter trying to be normal person (impossible)
@ReinKayomi
Жыл бұрын
@@hardVatsukiDanTDM is the perfect example of a Minecrafter playing the game normally
It's so sad to me that people use him being fat or unattractive as the only insult against him like.. HES DONE WORSE STUFF THAN JUST HAVE A BODY?!
@voilocollective
8 ай бұрын
He isn't even that ugly, just a normal looking dude. A doucy egoistic normal looking dude
@brianwalsh1339
7 ай бұрын
Maybe he shouldn’t have a disgusting Hapsburg-Esque Chin.
@eggman37
7 ай бұрын
@@brianwalsh1339 you really missed the point of what I just said huh
@marshmallowbiscuit4553
6 ай бұрын
I know. Literally, he's a disgusting person - personality wise. Dunk and dog on him for that, not because of his damn chin or originally thought to have been fat. Same people are like "don't be ableist" or "don't be racist" yet they're being derogatory by making fun of his appearance.
@gregheffley7819
6 ай бұрын
@@eggman37spoken like a true fat and unattractive person
To me, it seems like Dream's biggest problem is that at first when any drama about him comes up, he always speaks before he thinks, expressing his immediate emotions rather than thinking it over. But then we he realizes he made a mistake with how he responded, instead of just providing a more nuanced and thorough statement, he instantly apologizes hoping that the problem will just go away. Also the entire part of the Twitchcon disaster involving privacy-invading and crazy fans is really his own fault and this is just him experiencing the true consequences of his actions. By affirming and supporting stans and stan culture at every turn, he has reinforced the parasocial relationships that a lot of his fans have and pushed them to the extremes. I actually find Dream's career in general to be a really interesting case study for future content creators as to the consequences of regularly yielding to twitter pressure and supporting stans. Honestly I think if Dream wants to stop this cycle which I am almost positive will kill his channel eventually, he should hire a manager because it seems pretty clear to me that he either doesn't have one or has a really shitty one.
@murasaki6691
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm not really a fan or anything, but I've come across some drama a couple of times and I feel the same way, when Dream's involved in any drama he lashes out and doesn't think carefully about what he's going to say, he just let's his emotion guide him which almost always ends up in him beefing with people he doesn't even know or people disliking him even more in the end, people have hard time sympathizing with him cause he brought it upon himself, so people don't really feel bad. If he can't handle some twitter fangirls by himself (or as I've heard even him encouraging them?) then maybe being a content creator is not for him. I don't wish him anything bad of course, that's just what I personally thing, he's letting himself be controlled by fans and haters which result in many of his bad decisions.
I forgot this dude existed and it's amazing how quickly his views and channel interests dropped after his face reveal.
@SteamHyenaz
Жыл бұрын
I wish I could forget he existed
@terragthegreat175
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was just the face reveal. I think the guy just turned out to be way to sensitive to the mob and they ate him alive. You can't focus on being a content creator if you're having to second guess or backtrack on every decision you make because twitter didn't like it, and he formed a pattern of behavior of doing that every time people had an issue with him. Compare that to Pewdiepie who stuck to his guns and didn't let people bully him into submission. He had a long and successful career and has slipped into a semi-retirement while maintaining a strong core audience that respects him because he remained true to himself.
@julioalvarado7548
Жыл бұрын
He use to get +60 million views, now the most he gets is 6 million, even in the we survive in antartica video, it's not a dead channel but god damm thats a legendary fall off, i'm sad For him, i don't like his content, but i can feel nothing less than sorrow For this mate, maybe with a better attitude he could get further, or at least became a more or less respected figure.
@jordanford9320
Жыл бұрын
@@julioalvarado7548 Don't feel sorry for somebody who uses children to garnish their views and then uses that mob praises them for their toxicity and then doubles down on it. This dude is shit. Don't feel bad for shitty people who make shitty decisions and then want to play victim when it doesn't work out
@theoutsiderjess4869
Жыл бұрын
It was the face reveal and allegations that killed his momentum completely
What pains me the most is that KZread sent him 30 million KZread play-button and labeled him as "#1 Minecraft KZreadr". Yeah, right.... Forget about CaptainSparkles or DanTDM, who did not have any controversies surrounding them. Let's call Dream, who: - Is arrogant - Faked world record speedrun - Rigged mob vote - Sold crappy merch - Has grooming allegations - Is spinless and is apologising for every tiny thing - Encourages stan behaviour #1 Minecraft youtuber...
@ReinKayomi
Жыл бұрын
At least Sparkles and Dan didn't do the most heinous idiotic bullshit in their lifetime, and I give them kudos to that
@enderwalkgang
Жыл бұрын
@@ReinKayomi ignoring my icon (it's technically a Ranboo thing anyways) yeah. I'm more of a Quackity deserves it more than dream, and especially Capt. sparkles and Dan deserve it more. They are legacy players, Kingdom Come, Trayorous! Literally have we forgotten our roots??? I don't believe the allegations myself but Jesus fuck can't help but side eye when I hear dream acting a fool Twitter.
@TheCarpenterUnion
Жыл бұрын
Technically that would make PewDiePie the top minecraft youtber then
@Alex38369
Жыл бұрын
I mean he is the largest exclusive minecraft KZreadr so it makes sense to call him the number 1 Minecraft KZreadr
@sleepierhollow5892
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget stampylonghead
i will never forgive him for taking away the dandelion cow from us :(
One of the worst things that Dream has ever done that I feel doesn't get talked about was him PUBLICALLY saying he disliked Fireb0rn's (Who is one of if not the biggest Hollow Knight YT creator) video on his fake speedrun, and even showing that he had disliked the video ON STREAM, causing Fireb0rn to disable likes and comments on his video. And the worst part is, he was completely right, and Dream has never apologized. Essentially invited his fans to flood a creator with less than a 10th of his fanbase with hate comments, and doesn't apologize for it. Seriously so shitty.
@viddog6457
Жыл бұрын
Wait what the actual frick. I am a massive Hollow Knight fan and I have never heard about this. I am not a stan but after watching the video I don't think Dream is that bad besides from cheating and rigging the Mob Vote (not that bad but rather irritating), and Mass Mobbing other people. The other things are just blown out of the water. To be honest people will take legit anyone popular and just hate on them for reasons that can easily be an accident.
@panicplayzz
Жыл бұрын
@viddog6457 yeah I don't think he's gonna burn in hell or anything, he's just pretty obnoxious
@ermtosis
Жыл бұрын
i remember that
@Scrimbled
11 ай бұрын
i haven’t watched Fireb0rn in a bit but I fucking love that guy, can’t believe he hasn’t even apologized to em :(
I never cringed so hard on how he responded/handled his stan situation like you cant be that stupid to support how toxic it was
@graphite7898
Жыл бұрын
@Muh Election was stolen The irony in this comment is so dense that I'm not even sure if it's a troll or not 💀💀
@fern7844
Жыл бұрын
@muhelectionwasstolen7253the dream meatriding is insane
@pulatelephonics
Жыл бұрын
@muhelectionwasstolen7253people do take it seriously? If you want to explain how it doesn't apply, go ahead and try 🗿
@rcl4737
Жыл бұрын
Dream makes some of the WORST responses I’ve ever seen
@soviet_mayo
11 ай бұрын
@muhelectionwasstolen7253 The word woke has lost all meaning lil bro, from children like you :P
Crazy how all his fans just pretend all the grooming allegations simply do not exist because they think he's hot
@carrionkitty6806
Жыл бұрын
No way a predator can be hot, duhhh (It's so stupid, I don't understand it)
@yan_dj
Жыл бұрын
This comment right here is the first time I'm ever hearing about this
@Azuresam_
Жыл бұрын
True it is messed up that they think like that but my question is why isn't anyone talking about the allegations? Barley anyone from youtube or twitter talk about it.
@lepinkflamingo1950
Жыл бұрын
@@yan_dj same can anybody explain
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234
Жыл бұрын
They think Rumplestiltskin from Shrek 4 is hot?
I actually feel bad for Dream about the war cry controversy because I also genuinely thought of SpongeBob when he did it and not some racist thing 💀 people are too easily offended nowadays I swear.
What's weird about Dream was that both his stans and antis treated him with the same level of obsession.
not gonna lie if dream had stood his ground i probably would have respected him a lot more rather than seeing him as an online daycare for years.
@Froggoddess69
Жыл бұрын
But a large large majority wouldn’t. It was either fold and stay in good graces or stand his ground and facing all kinds of back lash (I don’t watch him much j just liked the fan art and man hunts)
@theoutsiderjess4869
Жыл бұрын
He stood his ground against John Swan
@boar6615
Жыл бұрын
his ground being what exactly, being stupid?
@CloneCaptainRex7567
Жыл бұрын
@@boar6615 Fr. His fault in this particular matter was maybe apologising a lot. But the guy didn't have any "ground". Love how everyone is fixating on that
@laszloneumann500
Жыл бұрын
Expecting a cheater to have a spine is folly
“You’re all my little kittens” He says while scratching his neck beard, adjusting his fedora, and gleaming through his spectacles
@fgc7596
Жыл бұрын
Dear god... this is hilarious. Made me cackle.
@elang1702
Жыл бұрын
Fucking lol'd so hard when I saw that tweet in the video, I mean c'mon my guy I completely understand and agrees with the message that you wanted to deliver but holy fuck try to re-read your sentences for a better vocabulary choices 😂
@Chemafur
Жыл бұрын
But I have a beard...and still a minor lol...
@Chemafur
Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianAlvarez2340 ok
@XillStuff
Жыл бұрын
with his other hand he is readjusting his fingerlesse glove, which got moved slightly after jerking to some not so legal fan mail.
his face reveal will never not be funny to me, twitter was so funny that day LMAOOOOO his stans were so obsessed with him that it created such high expectations for what he looked like even though hes literally just some guy so obvs he was gonna get trolled. but what was even funnier was that HE PUT IT BACK ON LMAOOOOOO
While the mockery towards Dream's appearance was unneccesary, even if he himself wasn't the most upstanding individual, "he looks like he's itching to tell me a riddle" is the only diss I find both hilarious and accurate.
Things I’ve learned from this video: 1. stay off twitter 2. Stand your ground and don’t give into the hate mobs.
@ReinKayomi
Жыл бұрын
Glad my Twitter account is finally suspended thanks to Ego Musk, that website can suck my shitsmeared ass
@ujjwalbaranwal6350
Жыл бұрын
If you don't get offended on twitter you're not using the app properly.
@applenewmoon4402
Жыл бұрын
Ngl when he was talking about his Edgy past. I was like “this is what most people usually say or act when gaming with best friends, I don’t even think any of this can end your career”.
@lowccperformance4059
Жыл бұрын
@@applenewmoon4402 yeah things used to be different back then I don’t know what happened since then but everyone is on edge about the smallest stuff it makes no sense
@Arcane_Digital
Жыл бұрын
NEVER APOLOGIZE. Ever.
I feel like dreams "stan validation" days really were the worst I hated that - all these socially awkward weirdos following his every move, making sexualized content of minors and guro, and mobbing/harassing people that think dream is lame or that they hate stans - these people he thought were fine. It doesn't really matter if he disavows their actions- to them, their idol said "You guys are fine I love you". This is enough for them to feel like they can do anything. That was grossly irresponsible.
@pickle3114
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly and now having stans are normalized...
@JuMiKu
Жыл бұрын
Dangerous for others and himself. Plenty of influencers have been killed by rabid fans. Parasocial relationships can become deadly. He probably knows plenty of KZreadrs that were stalked at some point. He should know better.
@TalkingRacoon922
Жыл бұрын
I see 2 possible cases: 1)Either he wasn’t aware of what and where “Stans” were sharing weird stuff and directed this appreciation to viewers that weren’t “Stans”. 2)When you are messing with people this toxic and obsessed, they are a danger (I’m not trying to use word, these people are crazy and need clinical attention). So, it’s better to team with them appear as an ally, kind of. I would say he was more the black sheep but it’s better than harassed both online and IRL.
@p3bblez
Жыл бұрын
this reply just uncovered a deep, repressed memory holy shit. i remember when the worst thing dream did(this was way before the grooming allegations came out) was seemingly support his fan making nsfw and gore art of him and his friends(some of which being minors, including his own little sister). really surreal that everyone seems to forgotten about all of that
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
What the fuck they made guro shit to? That's gross.
More about my tweet on 1:18:04 , I was just walking through the halls when I noticed Karl and the other streamers standing close to the walls and I quickly moved further away from the huge group of teens surrounding them when I realized what was going on. There was couple Twitchcon staff members with them, but they really didn't do anything to the fans, they just stood next to the streamers. When Karl finally went to the bathroom, one of the staff members stood infront of the bathroom doors to block the door a bit so that the fans couldn't get in, but since it was a public bathroom, they really couldn't block it completely and not let other people use it too. There was also a Creator Lounge at the end of that same hall and people waited there for hours for streamers to come outside. All in all, streamers at Twitchcon San Diego barely got any privacy or space to move without getting completely surrounded by people.
The fact he turned his head for the entire face reveal to try to show that he had a jawline still makes me laugh. I didn’t know who he was or why everyone cared, it was just super funny to watch this Minecraft dude act like him showing his face was gonna make the world stop or something. Turned himself into a meme forever.
The best dream moment was when his facereveal got overshadowed by sam'o nella posting a video after 2 years
@catcat4697
Жыл бұрын
It shows there's still hope for humanity
@nobody5333
Жыл бұрын
The internet is healing.
@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755
Жыл бұрын
It got massively overshadowed by the memes, which were a lot more entertaining tbh
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
That shit was great.
I am not one of those "people these days are so soft" type of people by any means, but apologizing for some of this shit is insane.
@JuMiKu
Жыл бұрын
"I'm so sorry for doing a Spongebob-warcry-impression, ya'all!😢 I have gotten more in-tune with my native ancestors and am so much better now!!" I mean... Did people even buy this? This is so ridiculous it doesn't even come across as genuine. It's the type of stuff, I'd expect in a sketch.
@221Prohunter
Жыл бұрын
I mean, it's kind of objectively true. If anything is proof of people nowadays being overly offended by absolute bullshit, this is it. It's probably more of a social media problem than anything else, hoenstly.
@Luciel_yt
Жыл бұрын
ikr
@corrikdonnelly1066
Жыл бұрын
@@JuMiKu if anything, the people that said his interpretation of a war cry was “racist”, we’re actually more racist than him for assuming he was doing a native war cry. Like for real the man just did a yodelling yell, and you some how found a way to make him a racist for it.
@PandaPelley
11 ай бұрын
@@corrikdonnelly1066 yeah but he got upset when he saw a license plate that means he's learned from his mistakes guys
It’s hard to sympathize what Dream has been through when he acts like a total douchebag and embrace his toxic fans
The dream-sexual rant is one of the internet moments of all time.
dream is the prime example of how no matter how bad your actions become if you've groomed a diehard audience of kids to defend your every move you can literally never fall. His early controversies were dumb and insignificant, sure, but later on he definitely did some insane shit
@Rob526
Жыл бұрын
stop using the term groomed like this or it is gonna become a nothing term like nazi.
@LeonardoStupidKenway
Жыл бұрын
Were the grooming allegations even real? I didn't finish the full video and i didn't really follow the drama to the end, but at the beginning, they seemed fucking ridicilous, you could poke a thousand holes into the grooming allegations and the story.
@taengkwachu
Жыл бұрын
when the allegations first happened people were talking about it all over twitter but then the “proof” the victim provided was not considered flirting and was far from being sexual towards them. there was no actual proof that the victim told there is.
@JinxedJackalop3
Жыл бұрын
@@LeonardoStupidKenway no, all grooming allegations were proven false.
@itamar20112
Жыл бұрын
@@JinxedJackalop3Not all, just the first one. The second one is in court (probably).
When people call people racist for "drugs" and rap in the same sentence, dont realize that theyre being racist for even thinking thats racist, as theyre the ones thinking thoughts like that when most people wouldnt see that as racist.
@alexalt2630
Жыл бұрын
Yeah lol they basically said that rapping about drugs is synonymous with being black
@Marshmallow_Trees
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@gizmobrooch8577
Жыл бұрын
@@alexalt2630 Yeah, its super dumb. But I feel like a solid chunk of these people just say this shit because they know dream is stupid and says sorry for LITERALLY everything. Dream seems like a nice guy, so I can understand why he does, I say sorry a lot, but for shit like this I would not lmao. And ye, rap was sure popularized by the black community, but it is in no way a black thing. Idk why people have to make literally everything about race, its pathetic
@olserknam
Жыл бұрын
This. And it's wild that they even took the matter in this direction, to begin with. And not, you know, the much more likely and potentially dangerous scenario of Dream dismissing medication as "just drugs". Crazy how that wasn't the focus of the drama and instead some stupid shit about him not liking rap. The definition of first world problems.
@calebgadison167
Жыл бұрын
Raceception
It's hilarious how after all the fervent, almost cult like, devotion of his stans, a lot of it went away once he showed his face. His videos dropped from tens of millions to just a million or so, which while still massive, goes to show their devotion was never towards him, but towards the Dream persona.
@bluchewscorner
9 ай бұрын
its really telling to why when you look at dream fanart before his face reveal. theyve created this persona of him of a blonde blue eyed attractive guy, its actually hilarious when half of his fanbase silently left because his looks disappointed their expectations of him.
I'll always be grateful for Dream introducing me to Normal Pills. My depression is gone and I've been feeling a lot better about life.
also something worth mentioning is a big reason why dream was doxxed is because when his stans doxxed someone he said being doxxed wasn't a big deal
@n0va402
10 ай бұрын
Who doxxed dream? I got ass to eat
@lobruh9039
10 ай бұрын
It was more complicated than that. Also I think he was doxxed before he said that.
As a content creator, though, Dream is the PERFECT example of why you never touch Twitter. Not even once. Man had to apologize over and over and over for shit he didn’t do and it’s never gonna stop cause he keeps feeding into Twitter’s BS.
@theoutsiderjess4869
Жыл бұрын
Dream is the example of how to not interact with fans and that was before the allegations drops
@pettykittyfam
Жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏 Twitter is beyond gross
@ReinKayomi
Жыл бұрын
Glad I got my Twitter account permanently suspended, screw you Elon and Twitter
@ereviscale3966
Жыл бұрын
Well his arguments made no sense. He is really stupid is the problem.
@TheSilverfishProject
Жыл бұрын
@@ReinKayomi lmao bro what did you do? You sound so proud, I’m intrigued
Its ironic that a whole cheating debacle didn´t do much to his reputation, but revealing his face completely destroyed it.
Can we talk about how my boy GamerFromMars has literally gone from slighty husky to absolute himbo. You're looking great king
@lxi..
Жыл бұрын
I mean ya can't really call him a himbo, tbh. Himbos are adorably stupid. GamerFromMars is pretty smart lmao
Don’t know much about Dream, but this isn’t the first time someone with an avatar that has a mask for a face has been involved in some reprehensible stuff Edit: I’m not talking about kwite, I’m talking about Cryaotic, in case it was unclear
@MrAsianPie
Жыл бұрын
@@jaxsterminator8634 Don't think he's specifically mentioning Kwite, lots of KZreadrs who hide their face behind a persona turn out to be terrible people.
@captainszasz5836
Жыл бұрын
@@jaxsterminator8634 He's referencing cryaotic.
@cubirk
Жыл бұрын
i dont remeber the other guy could you say his name
@AssassinGlasgow
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I’m referencing Cry
@AssassinGlasgow
Жыл бұрын
@@cubirk cryaotic
it’s insane how spineless he is lol
@shrekonion7032
Жыл бұрын
He sold his soul to the twitter mob
@petergriffin9931
Жыл бұрын
I guarantee you would fold also if that much money was rolling in
@skellie4580
Жыл бұрын
@@petergriffin9931 I would rather be poor than be known as the dude with 14 year old fans that make nsfw art of myself having secret tickle time with my friends… & then those same fans turn on me any time I say a swear word or fart incorrectly without saying excuse me.
@ermtosis
Жыл бұрын
@@skellie4580yea i dont want to live like him dud 😭
@skellie4580
Жыл бұрын
@@ermtosis Honestly no one does. Bro is 23 and taking back his face reveal while crying about it because kids bullied him into it lmfaoo his career has been one big ongoing joke that just gets less funny
The thumbnail for this video cracks me up every time I see it lmao I love how it almost looks like it's implying that being obese is a scandal 💀
@stolasthepiglin
Жыл бұрын
OBESITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤯🤯🤯😰😰😨😱
I don't know what's more disgusting. Him constantly apologizing when he clearly doesn't care and destroys his own value system for clout thus having no self-respect for himself, or his fans crawling back at the most meagre of apologies. The irony is that early in the video when he first responded to controversy he said "All people do is make a fuss to make themselves look like the better person. They use the struggles of people that actually have disabilities for their own reputation." Not only does this rings true for his fanbase and the people who get offended by him, but also he does it himself. He throws in a minor slur/offensive term intentionally or unintentionally, lets it simmer, then comes back like a feel good story of learning his lesson like an episode off of Sesame Street and everyone applauds him. Course that's only the tip of the Ice Berg as shown.
Dream grows his ego by his large fans and immediately deflates when he remembers they are children who make him millions and is forced to give a half assed sorry. He says something and commits to it, then immediately he has to make a twitter video/tweet saying sorry and repeat. Who knew making millions from staged minecraft videos would turn you this soft?
I thought Tyrone was an Actual skin and told all my friends about it 💀
@Clouditivity
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@concept5631
Жыл бұрын
Goddamn that sucks 😬
when i was 13 i was really mentally i’ll and hurting. i was confused and lost and i was unable to connect well with my peers and. i needed some solid ground so i attached myself to mcyt (especially dream) and very quickly developed an unhealthy parasocial relationship with him and other dsmp content creators. At the time, my grandma had just passed away and my entire family had covid (this was also during christmas) and i was isolated for 5 weeks straight. During this time period i was deep into this delusion that those content creators were my friends and the only thing i had. Now i’m 17 years old and i can see how manipulative dream was to his fans, i was just unfortunate enough to get caught in the crossfire. As a person that is idolized, his behavior was/is unacceptable and i was probably not the only mentally i’ll pre-teen that confided in him during a dark time. my heart goes out to those that are struggling right now but please seek help through therapy instead of the internet (sorry if this message doesn’t make much sense english is not my first language)
@wetrat5016
6 ай бұрын
There are plenty of KZreadrs that use edgy and offensive humor in their bits, and they're still successful. And a big part of that is because they don't give any airtime to people who call them out on it. Eventually those people realize they're not making a dent and they go off and find something else to complain about- and all that's left is an audience that doesn't care if you use edgy humor at all.
@SMCwasTaken
Жыл бұрын
So people can joke about Autistic people but not the holocaust? *logic has left the chat
@RHBR01
Жыл бұрын
@@SMCwasTaken ...Your statement has absolutely no relation whatsoever to what I said. So logic has quite literally left the chat, yeah.
@SMCwasTaken
Жыл бұрын
@@RHBR01 no, pls look it from another way, when someone makes a joke about the holocaust, they get obliterated by the holocaust survivors, but when someone makes a joke about autism everyone stays silent
@Eye_Of_Odin978
9 ай бұрын
@@SMCwasTaken Yeah, there's absolutely double-standards that exist in the world, bro. You can make jokes about literally gen0ciding wytes but if you even make ONE joke about Jamal stealing a bike, then suddenly you lose your job, your house, your privacy, and anything else they can rip away from you like an animal. You gonna do something about it or just whine? Because we have more than enough whiners, thanks.
@SMCwasTaken
9 ай бұрын
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 i don't think we have enough whiners Infact i think we need more whiners so we can change the world
Less than ten minutes into the video and I'm already pretty confident in saying that Dream is a hardcore narcissist. The complete and utter lack of ability to admit fault is so obvious, he only ever backs down and admits fault when he's totally cornered.
@AkuraTheAwesome
Жыл бұрын
@@stevnated I did keep watching actually, and it only continued to reinforce my thoughts. Every single time he said sorry he was only pretending to care. He just paid lip service to get the heat off him. You can see this because no matter how many times he "apologises" he immediately creates another controversy for the exact same fucking thing. This is narcissist behaviour 101. The fact that you see him constantly apologising without sincerity is what makes him so clearly a narcissist. It's like watching a Jake Paul "apology".
@Hhjoougg3344
Жыл бұрын
His apology doesn’t have to be perfect as u want it when most of these things aren’t his fault.
@MachinaOwl
Жыл бұрын
Is this really narcissist behavior? Seems pretty normal to me. Ugly, but typical. Human beings rarely admit that they're wrong unless they're practically forced to. I don't like Dream's behavior but we should be cautious to not diagnose people with personality disorders across the Internet lol
@AkuraTheAwesome
Жыл бұрын
@@MachinaOwl yes that's because narcissism is extremely common in humans, especially amongst social media performers/influencers. Heck, narcissism is almost a requirement to be a successful influencer. The Paul brothers are the most hardcore example of toxic narcissists, I'm sure you've noticed. A lot of people grow out of their narcissistic tendancies as a kid, but Dream seems incapable of such growth by choice. I think he has a lot of other anti-social behavioural traits but narcissism is easily top of the pile. You don't need to be a doctor to recognise it, he doesn't do a very good job of hiding it from anyone willing to put two and two together. Just look at how he revels in controlling and directing his legions of underage fans, he behaves like a cult leader in some ways. And cult leaders are narcissists by nature.
@Kitteso
Жыл бұрын
He is a textbook narcissist and I am baffled by people's inability to see that. During the speedrunning drama, a lot of people were like, "I don't believe he cheated and is lying about it like this, only a psychopath would do that." People on the internet are quick to call everything naricissism and then when they see an actual narcissist they don't recognize it.
Dream absolutely should not have apologized for the first few "controversies". They were all literal nothingburgers.
@cappytan2626
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just silliness. Funny or not, it's just silliness
@enduser8410
Жыл бұрын
I agree except for the lynch one sort of. Like that one was just cmon dude lmao.
@pr0_gam3r37
Жыл бұрын
ehh I mean I think that cheating on the game that made your entire career of people thinking that you're really good at said game is atleast somewhat of a something burger but it's just my opinion
@wolfbane4875
Жыл бұрын
@@pr0_gam3r37 Not what I was referring to, but ok
@jessealmonds
Жыл бұрын
Idk like the kkk edit and his stance on the r word are kinda crazy
Tbh he's a great example of what happens if you can't ignore twitter and yield to their demands each time. 90% of the things he did that are considered controversial by twitter are just stupid
I think Dreams made a major blunder by giving in to the demands of Twitter, especially from underage girls. He gave them too much power to shape his image and decide what he should or shouldn't do.
@ReinKayomi
Жыл бұрын
He's literally a goddamn cult leader for chronically online teenage girls, I could imagine if he asked his damn fans to starve themselves to transport themselves to Minecraft or something
I honestly think most of his controversies were just chronically online people getting angry and dog piling onto mostly exagerated dramas. Not all though i have to reiterate but like so many of them were.
Dream is a creepy cult leader, I used to enjoy his content but then he started advocating for parasocial relationships, and obsessive behavior, hiding behind saying its not ok while promoting it. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he got busted for having illegal content or sleeping will an underage fan, given that his community is mostly kids
Dream is an example of what happens to people who try to please everyone. Stand up for your morals instead of folding in front of people.
@the_it_girl1209
6 ай бұрын
This didn’t age well
I have DID and I remember when I first started to figure it out a few years back and I was really like... scared and confused, so I started looking for online communities for support and like... God, the amount of minors claiming to have Dream-based alters was so fucking bizarre. I don't understand why that's such an overlap.
Crazy how some of Dream's more petty drama or "wrong doings" always over shadow some of the more serious issues with him. Like his glaring narcissism that tends to show from time to time and the underage allegations.
@Azurethewolf168
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know talking to underage people just as fans and nothing more was criminal now
@autisticaxolotlponies
10 ай бұрын
and the ableism and racism
@theindestructibleone483
8 ай бұрын
@@Azurethewolf168bro if you're of legal age you should not be talking to minors at all, that's a rule, of course it's not a crime if nothing happened but you still should not have any contact with minors period
@Azurethewolf168
8 ай бұрын
@@theindestructibleone483 yeah I agree. That rule is a bit different if you’re a content creator, most of your followers will likely be minors, but you should still just keep everything surface level. But i do find that a lot of it does seem to be way too overblown and just blindly assuming things, especially in recent years we’ve seen stuff like dudes getting their lives ruined over petty things that a woman could get away with, along with just a culture of seeing men as abusers and women as victims automatically without any evidence.
@Ello_humans
8 ай бұрын
@@Azurethewolf168 Except it wasn't "Just as fans and nothing more". There were several serious allegations at SEVERAL different points in time and keep in mind, dreams response to the allegations was so much shorter compared to his response to the quackity drama.
If these people were so offended in the beginning WHY FOLLOW HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
@theevilbean
Жыл бұрын
I feel like it was mostly K-pop Stans, smth abt his own fanbase canceling him left and right doesn’t sound right…
@thecorrurtion215
Жыл бұрын
I guess it’s fun to play with a puppet
@fbidumbbee
11 ай бұрын
it's a certified chronically online moment, i guess
I feel slightly sympathetic at the results of his face reveal. So many people were cruel about his appearance bc he wasn’t the supermodel anime boy the stan girlies thought he was. He just looked like a dude you’d walk by in a supermarket without a second thought. And probably the people being so cruel about his appearance weren’t even all that better looking.
This aged like a fine mayonnaise
John swan: *grooms children Gets caught John swan: "it was just a joke" 🤡
@magolor152
Жыл бұрын
"it was a joke that I burned down that rest home while everyone was asleep I swear!"
"Nobody cared about who I was until I put on the mask"
The DID/OSDD community was wild when Dream was popular. A lot of people pretending (there still is tho) and a lot of them would ship other alters and shit with people they ship in the DSMP
@MyOldTapes
Жыл бұрын
You can just say ‘fakers community’
@bea2323
7 ай бұрын
I avoid the DID community at all cost- Theyre definitily still wild when it comes to that and just fandoms in general
As someone that never understood why Dream was so well known or what was going on with him, this video is a banger. Good job GFM.
Never apologize, people don't actually give a fuck. It's about making you bow to them and they will still hate you. When will internet users learn this lesson?
@catcat4697
Жыл бұрын
I'm speaking for the entire internet when I say: Sorry about that
@dannygoblin5579
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not "never apologize" but i say never apologize just because everyone wants you to. There is the rare occasion where someone just feels genuinely sorry on their own behalf
@midnxghtxx6390
Жыл бұрын
But what if I do something real bad and then I’ll feel bad?
@JuMiKu
Жыл бұрын
@Midnxghtxx If you genuinely think you've done wrong and feel that you should make amends, I completely agree that you should apologize and try to do better. However, even here it's less about apologising and more about improving, isn't it? (Dreams apologies for instance rang really friggin' hollow to me. They seemed downright farcical at times...)
@alanpendragon1316
Жыл бұрын
@@JuMiKu they rang hollow because he knows there was nothing to apologize about. People need to stop being sensitive
i feel like I'm crazy but i find all of this public crying over words really insufferable
@HeatherHolt
Жыл бұрын
You’re not alone in that. Everyone is so sensitive I’m surprised they don’t walk around with earmuffs on.
@oiltycoonbillionaire
Жыл бұрын
People get so mad over the r slur then don't bat an eye at the people openly spreading misinformation about stuff like autism or adhd or anything thought of as 'quirky' on social media. I don't mind someone calling me a r-ard, it's rude but whatever. But I despise Kai, age 20 who 'stims' by flapping her hands to the beat of a nightcore song. Like ong if you act like this do it already don't keep your family waiting.
@hexmaniac6810
Жыл бұрын
I don’t even know why his fanbase followed him in the first place just to get offended. There are plenty of non edgy minecraters out there go watch them. If you don’t like it unfollow!
@PeterGriffin11
Жыл бұрын
It depends on your audience I've noticed some creators like Aba & Peach say the r word a lot and I've never seen them get any controversy but I'm sure if someone such as Danny Gonzalez or Kurtis Conner said it they'd be canceled immediately because their audience is more sensitive.
@Azurethewolf168
Жыл бұрын
@@PeterGriffin11 well yeah if your on Twitter and your audience is mainly leftists it’s ofc gonna be like that
dream's little sona is literally just Cryaotic. And we all know how THAT guy ended up
3:55 I can’t believe somebody would go so far as to say “Retinal scan card” knowing full well the weight behind that word. Truly deserving of the backlash they got, that’s horrible.
You know I was actually nodding along and agreeing with Dream. His original stance on the R-word incident especially resonated with me since I myself am a disabled person and am constantly subject to allistic people telling me how to think and feel and what I should be offended by even though I've rarely met a single disabled person that was offended by words like that, and the ones that were were the types that felt constant shame over who they were and were just generally miserable people who couldn't learn to accept, love, and laugh at themselves so they took that out on others ...but then I saw I was only 7 minutes into the video
@FlamingoSnot
Жыл бұрын
original dream actually sounded like a guy i’d listen to or watch
@Azurethewolf168
Жыл бұрын
@@FlamingoSnot yeah, it’s sad how the more he became popular the more he lost what made him famous
@r6ses
Жыл бұрын
I remember when that whole drama went down, something about how that word didn’t have the same impact in France, where a6d’s from, so he didn’t see it as a slur.
@Diego-wl5mj
Жыл бұрын
retard literally isnt a ND only word and its not a slur. the word means to delay and is used for MANY different things. the word is a slur because it means delayed; slow not because it was a medical term. unironically people have turned it into an offensive slur by trying to make it something you cant say, literally giving a word with no power before, power. it was never used to "oppress" anyone but yet people need to be a victim now because thats whats hip. im ND and i dont give a shit who uses the word retard, im not interested in being a weak victim.
@RaptorJesusHimself
Жыл бұрын
@@Diego-wl5mj based and kingly. 👑💪
Looks like this life couldn’t be a dream
@Immadeus
Жыл бұрын
"But if you close your eyes.."
@immaduck7099
Жыл бұрын
@@Immadeus *EH OH, EH OH*
@Weiswolfe
Жыл бұрын
@@immaduck7099 you said it you said the thing!
@immaduck7099
Жыл бұрын
*DOES IT ALWAYS FEEL LIKE NOTHING CHANGED AT ALLLLL*
I don't know what's worst, the reason people wanted to cancel him for or the fact how he literally sold himself to his audience.
The biggest mistake that he did was succumbing into the twitter bs and apologizing to them. If he just ignored them and went on he would still be relevant right now
Imagine hiring an astrophysicist to prove you've not cheated in a video game.
So basically every word is a slur. Holy shit the internet is fucked.
@beckyfallstrom1072
Жыл бұрын
“You can’t say holy it’s a slur now” every Twitter user
People tend to forget that Dream is just a guy, who apparently can't handle his popularity too well and is making a lot of mistakes along the way. Sure, you can say that being content creator ties with a huge responsibility, because people are gonna look up to you, so he should have been prepared. But also they are all wrong for making him their christ figure and getting upset when he shows just a slightest bit of imperfection.
There truly are no heroes in Dream's social circle. Only villains.
If Dream sits in a car, does his chin hit the gas pedal?
@staringcorgi6475
Жыл бұрын
He’s a royal baby ain’t he
@Immadeus
Жыл бұрын
He's like the anti-leafy, where dream has too much chin
@Mitzi-chan224
Жыл бұрын
lmao
@edmundkrumins8196
Жыл бұрын
He got that Habsburg chin
@skebapplejefferiso308
Жыл бұрын
"With my massive fucking chin, I can reach the acceleration pedal!"
All this tells me is that many dream stans have always been spoilt mental immature virtue signallers.
Hearing “Dream” and “mature” in the same sentence hurt
The John Swan drama is still hilarious to me because everyone defending him fell for the “my cousin took my phone” excuse and ran with it
Dream: *breathes* Twitter: WE DEMAND AN APOLOGY!
@tedtheodore5715
Жыл бұрын
Didn't he justify and defend his stans and mock people who were rightfully pissed at him for being a scumbag
@EddyGameVlogBoy
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t he cheat a Minecraft speedrun
@blankspace2891
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t he groom people?
@phillnyetheplaylistguy3759
Жыл бұрын
@@tedtheodore5715 that was after he crumbled to the weight of 14 year old twitter users.
@TheCarpenterUnion
Жыл бұрын
@@tedtheodore5715 that realization really makes everything worse. He has no creed at all - just a dog who rolls over
the most fascinating thing about dream to me the fact that either people looked at him as he could do no wrong and he was the second coming of christ or he could do no right and thought he was the epitome of pure evil. he's basically the nickelback of youtube in that he's either worshipped like jesus or condemned as if he were the antichrist
Who would get offended over someone mentioning a sports team?
The simple fact of it is that after his less than or equal to average face was revealed, the entirety of the 'creative' portion of his audience (child aged/teenaged girls) lost all interest. They all collectively pretended that he was an attractive twink or hunky anime boy when in reality it was literally just a character design he probably had/created as a throwaway, and didn't show his face because ??? why would he? it's not exactly normal for a youtuber who covers gaming content to show their face- its a standout when it happens. But he blew up. To such a level that for some reason, people expected to see his face. And when they did they didn't like it. And that was that. The illusion of attractiveness vanished and so did everyone.
I think the worst thing any type of influencer or celebrity can do these days is address drama or controversy.
His face reveal is why I’m afraid of Twitter. Anything and everything you say or do can and will be used against you. Existing as a human being is enough justification to get cancelled. I’m not a fan of Dream. I don’t like or dislike him. Either way, he just seems like a person on the internet. A person with a large following, but a person all the same. People make mistake, people learn how to conduct themselves (for better or worse), and are prone to expressing their human-faults. So to Dream SMP, keep on keeping on, I don’t expect you to be an unrealistically perfect saint of a man, and I hope you can keep your nose clean. That goes for everyone else out there reading this comment on this GamerFromMars video, too.
I had dated a dream stan for almost 5 years until we broke up in February. The break up was mutual with us just having different goals, but it has been months now and his red flags have been haunting my mind. Like he was one of those stans that would draw those gory pictures not even just in the dream fandom but also with BTS and when I heard about dreams groomer controversy I was like "You know about this?" and he was like "Yeah, it's all lies". And now I watch a video like this after we broke up and I'm like thank god we're not together anymore, and I know he's still a stan because he has DSMP Pinterest boards. Sidenote: when the big Shane Dawson getting cancelled stuff happened he just said like "Oh, but that happened so long ago" 💀💀 Thank you for coming to my trauma dump
@mfknbumblebee
7 ай бұрын
You dodged a bullet there
If dream just stood his ground once he wouldn’t have had to apologize so much
I couldn’t sit through this video because listening to dream bend a knee so damn easily made me cringe so hard out of frustration that it hurt lmao. People like him are exactly why the internet thinks they have power
Usually watching these types of videos makes me agree with what's being implied, but this drama is some of the tamest shit ever, he read the name of a football team and got cancelled...
Dream when he finds out his actions have consequences: 😮
Now I understand what being terminally online can do to you.
I feel dream has the most irl like troll face.
1:03:18 This one legitimately irks me. Dream is teased to make an appearance in Mr. Beast's KZread Rewind, and these freaks convinced themselves that Dream would do a face reveal in that video. Lo and behold, the video comes out, Dream doesn't do a face reveal, and his stalkers are pissed and "betrayed", even though nothing ever hinted he'd do a face reveal. Idiots.
Honestly the fact that he spends his entire day arguing with trolls is just hysterical
Really like to see when people put effort into videos to actually make them long
@isaacbejjani5116
Жыл бұрын
You'd probably enjoy turkey tom as well. I love him, Mars, and sunnyv2s content. Similar but all original.
@Arionid
Жыл бұрын
turkey tom is trash though
@geminicattheinsomniac8408
Жыл бұрын
@@Arionid kinda agree he’s a hit or miss for me
@leemsvg
Жыл бұрын
@@Arionid lol didnt he contribute to the hate on Slazo
@tecknowledjee6933
Жыл бұрын
@@leemsvg yea, and he doubled down after slazo was proven innocent
I’m still surprised when his old photos were leaked and nobody believed it was him
The discussion of para-social relationships needs to stay in everyone’s minds. It needs to be explained periodically and in terms a kid can understand. So Dream can understand. ♥️✌️
It's cases like this that make me want to rethink doing content on the internet. This guy became a prisoner of his own fame.