The Construction Method That Can Prevent Skyscrapers From Sinking | WSJ
Super-tall skyscrapers are being built in cities around the world where they may normally sink, and builders are using a unique engineering method called deep-soil mixing to make it happen. Mixing soil and cement creates a super-strong slurry called “soilcrete” that is three times stronger than regular soil.
WSJ explains the process of essentially changing the earth, and the risks it poses as cities expand.
0:00 To safely build skyscrapers on imperfect soil, engineers are using old tech
0:56 How deep-soil mixing works
2:41 Safety and financial benefits of deep-soil mixing
4:08 Deep-soil mixing risks
5:17 Could deep-soil mixing expand to residential buildings in new cities?
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As a geotech in my day job, seeing the WSJ talk about soil mixing was the last thing I expected to see this morning.
@jamesbailey754
Жыл бұрын
Same, also just think it's weird how they just plucked one ground improvement technique and decided to do a video on it haha.
@L33tSkE3t
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbailey754 I’m not complaining
Bruh, who builds a skyscraper on eroding flat coast prone to annual strong hurricanes?
@jermainec2462
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 america 😂
@HiThisIsMine
Жыл бұрын
Billionaires who see the financial gain from selling over priced real estate.
@MrDude826
Жыл бұрын
Bruh, people should be leaving Miami instead of moving to it. The whole city is literally sinking, you can see the water pour up through the drains. There's also eternal puddles all over the city.
@ItsMe-yv9jd
Жыл бұрын
?? Common sense would tell you that setting the building on a stiff soil base will not stop the actual stiff soil base from sliding or tilting, when set against the other soft soil right next to it... sounds good on paper I guess, but I won't be buying a unit anytime soon.
@BJ-dl8cl
Жыл бұрын
@@HiThisIsMine youre insinuating that billionaire can never make bad investments, they could lose alot of money with this one
As a civil engineer, I was surprised to see it in WSJ.
@pewpewpower
Жыл бұрын
Cool story bro
Beachfront skyscrapers built whilst sea level is rising. What could possibly go wrong?
@davidanalyst671
Жыл бұрын
the sea level isnt rising, florida is sinking.
@jouaienttoi
Жыл бұрын
@@davidanalyst671 It could be both, it depends on the area. Sea levels are rising, but are rising uneveningly. Many islands and coastal areas in poorer countries have already had to be abandoned. Jakarta is possibly the worst example in the world right now. Sea level rises and the land is sinking due to poor water usage.
@buckwagers
Жыл бұрын
@@davidanalyst671 Probably both.
@jcc777
Жыл бұрын
@@jouaienttoi maybe you can explain what you mean by raising unevenly. Outside of external gravitational forces and wind, the sea level is a constant around the world. At least, amongst the bodies of water that are connected to each other and inland sea is the only one that would have the possibility of having a level that varies from the vast majority of the water on the planet. But it probably doesn’t make a whole Lotta difference in them since America doesn’t seem to be able to build buildings that last over 50 years anymore.
10 million dollar condos to be used as investment items for the rich. Just what we need
I walk by the Waldorf Astoria construction site on my daily walk and I was wondering what those machines were. They been there for a while!
@Notpublic4719
Жыл бұрын
yeah, but did you realize how prone miami is to flooding? it floods whenever it rains! definetly considering moving to a drier place, I heard west palm is nicer in a lot of ways including nicer people!
Imagine if we built mid-rise housing across America, instead of building super-tall in areas where nature is attempting to demolish the structure on a regular basis.
@ryanleonard4034
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but then the ultra rich won't have a condo to go to once or twice a year before jetting off again to one of their other seven homes..
Question for the geotech engineers in the comments: How mature is this tech? How long has it been used? Would this be the first time this technology has been used on a building this size in that particular soil environment? Video mentions it has been used in quite a few places, but only on shorter projects or industrial settings. Is this ready to be used on massive buildings?
@tylerl4895
Жыл бұрын
This has been around for a long time just in slightly different forms. The question of using this method or a different method such as steel piles to support a building usually comes down to site conditions and cost. Every method has different advantages and costs
@clem2874
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the method has been around for a while. But it's usually implemented in smaller structures. It has been used on small hydro structures like small gravity dams.
@Me97202
Жыл бұрын
The most important question might be: _Would you feel safe if _*_your_*_ family lived in this building?_
@crp5591
Жыл бұрын
@@Me97202 If the engineering is sound, yes... hence the questions to the geotechnical engineers. They know more than I do and I trust them.
@ItsMe-yv9jd
Жыл бұрын
?? Common sense would tell you that setting the building on a stiff soil base will not stop the actual stiff soil base from sliding or tilting, when set against the other soft soil right next to it... sounds good on paper I guess, but I won't be buying a unit anytime soon.
I hope that this tech will be introduced in South korea. Lately, a bridge was fallen. And some people died. The accident was because of bad construction tech. I don't want to watch any other accidents related to construction flaw any more.
What is this effect on flooding and the underground water table since you are impacting the soil composition? Especially in Florida, sound like you are trading a construction issue (for developers) into an insurance and tenant issue.
@MinecrafterZo26
Жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly! I don't know the environmental implications of blasting concrete into the ground... developers won't take no for an answer!
@jamesbailey754
Жыл бұрын
Limestone is prone to sinkholes, redirecting water to new areas can exacerbate existing sinkholes or cause new sinkholes to form in those areas
@mi12no
Жыл бұрын
Underground water table? Building structures impact soil density exponentially depending on size and construction technique. All skyscrapers compact the soil over time and cause environmental damage. Building on bedrock would be the best case scenario for any project, but unfortunately most construction projects aren’t like that.
@mariamal-hassan8292
Жыл бұрын
@@mi12no yeah exactly! Thats why investigations are undergone to check if the loads imposed by propsed buildings will cause neighbouring buildings to sink/settle/heave. I think there is just a general curiosity about what the local impacts of changing the soil structure will be for neighbouring structures and surrounding soil zones
@ItsMe-yv9jd
Жыл бұрын
?? Common sense would tell you that setting the building on a stiff soil base will not stop the actual stiff soil base from sliding or tilting, when set against the other soft soil right next to it... sounds good on paper I guess, but I won't be buying a unit anytime soon.
Good video, but Miami? What's the point of buying $10Million condos there when every other year there's going to be a hurricane that floods half the city?
Soil crete would still require reinforcement against tensile stresses generated due to downward shear(cement is weak in tension), as entire soilcrete would behave as single isolated footing. In short the problem of sinking would still occur somewhere in future
This is great... is there no bedrock to build on?? The reason the san francisco tower is sinking is because they flexed on the developers and tried to save money by not putting piles down to the bedrock. Does florida not have bedrock? Can't say i would go anywhere near that building...
@carlton6734
Жыл бұрын
Same. Like obviously I know I’m no engineer & these guys know more than me. But something just doesn’t seem right about this. And yeah let’s say it works for the first decade of the life of the building but what about the soil after that decade I just have a feeling it can’t be good.
@izthizalrdytkn
Жыл бұрын
I'm no engineer either, but what I will say is that problems like this do not show up randomly. Take the collapse of the condo unit in FL recently - the building owners knew there were severe structural issues for years but didn't do anything resulting in collapse. I'm sure they are all over it
@lawrencefrost9063
Жыл бұрын
"Can't say i would go anywhere near that building..." Yeeeah of all the things in the world that that could kill me, this is not very high on my list of priorities. Today you will hop in to traffic and it's not likely that you will find yourself in a lethal car accident. But it's not implausible. You don't worry about that too much do you? But you would worry if you were to visit this building? You really think these people don't know what they are doing? You think they would be putting the lives of thousands residing in the building along with their freedom (they would be criminally liable perhaps) and billions of dollars at risk?
@Novusod
Жыл бұрын
Florida has bedrock but it is 600ft down and nobody wants to dig down that deep. It is a cost saving measure which means the building will at best have a 50 year life span before they have to demolish it.
@ItsMe-yv9jd
Жыл бұрын
?? Common sense would tell you that setting the building on a stiff soil base will not stop the actual stiff soil base from sliding or tilting, when set against the other soft soil right next to it... sounds good on paper I guess, but I won't be buying a unit anytime soon.
There’s a reason high buildings always were set on bedrock below or not built in that area? The building will eventually tilt. Hopefully not before it’s usefulness is complete.
@qwerty112311
Жыл бұрын
The reason was that there wasn’t a market for ultra luxury skyscrapers that was large enough to justify all the building. Miami has had skyscrapers for years, but as very high wealth individuals moves from NY to FL, the demand is way up.
@ceber54
Жыл бұрын
It's possible to build skyscrapers in weak soil, as in Mexico city or Tokio (Torre Mayor, Torre BBVA, Torre Reforma, Torre Latinoamericana [1956]) and also be earthquake resistant, essentially the building floats as a ship, or using very deep foundations. But I'm not sure about soil prone to tide erosion, high winds and exposed to a salty environment.
@jouaienttoi
Жыл бұрын
Skyscrapers can last for hundreds if not thousands of years if properly built and maintained.
@ItsMe-yv9jd
Жыл бұрын
?? Common sense would tell you that setting the building on a stiff soil base will not stop the actual stiff soil base from sliding or tilting, when set against the other soft soil right next to it... sounds good on paper I guess, but I won't be buying a unit anytime soon.
As an unemployed college student I was surprised to see this video on WSJ
Thanks! Very interesting
“Literally changing the earth!” What a weird line
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
Жыл бұрын
"earth changing" is an idiom that is hardly ever used anymore. Oops it's supposed to be "Earth-Shattering" - nice call.
Sounds like a very good idea.
This is very similar to bentonite displacement foundation technique.
what i don't understand is, when water can't go through it, it will go around it, and carve it's way around the block. Doesn't it create room for tilting that way?
@niilespunkari8832
Жыл бұрын
Maniac Florida developers. Some areas of the world should not have these mega skyscrapers because they do not have bedrock, South Florida is one of these areas --- South Florida has 'limestone bedrock', which is not proper bedrock.
Can they not push steel cages down into the soilcrete before it hardens?
If it is not attached to the bedrock (which in local conditions is below the 'limestone bedrock'), it is not attached to bedrock and thus will tilt.
Aquifer impacts?
Wunderbar
Brickinmortar will have fun with this at some point
will this stop the Arctic from being ice-free for 1st time in 3 million years? B/c it's about to happen folks. Those skyscraper condos are gonna be empty when the soil is too hot to grow food at scale. 22 million people in Horn of Africa right now are in acute famine conditions due to abrupt global warming. It's gonna keep spreading worldwide.
@jtgd
Жыл бұрын
You’re sure it isn’t because they’re settled on arid land? Virtually all of Somalia is coastal, due to the majority of the country being desert, and lack of major rivers You’re also talking about a population that more that Tripled in 50 years despite those conditions That’s like blaming global warming for tribes in the Sahara living rough conditions
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
Жыл бұрын
@@jtgd The world's largest private corporation, Cargill, dumped food into Somalia at 1/6th the local price, thereby creating a power vacuum for U.S. food imperialism. The farmers had previously controlled Mogadishu. Abrupt global warming currently threatens 22 million in the Horn of Africa with severe food insecurity - twice as bad as last year. Only 50% of the emergency food relief has been funded for that area so far. "Settled"? Humans have lived in Africa for 200,000 years.
This will not end will.
Will concrete be still in working condition after 50 years?
@captiannemo1587
Жыл бұрын
Well depends on what sort of concrete they use.
@jouaienttoi
Жыл бұрын
??? The best concrete can last for thousands of years. Why would someone build a 100 story building on concrete that will only last 50? I don't even think there is any concrete that only last 50 years.
@captiannemo1587
Жыл бұрын
@@jouaienttoi the interior and building will last 50-80 years. Concrete will probably last a bit longer.
@goodfractalspoker7179
Жыл бұрын
But it’s not pure concrete instead a mix of soil. Would have loved to know the ratio personally.
@lllllllllllllllllllllllll8722
Жыл бұрын
@@jouaienttoi either you never worked in construction field or watched too many ancient Roman youtube videos. Modern concrete does not last that long. Concrete need to be maintained periodically to hold its shape. You cant just build and forget and expect to last life time. At least bridges and buildings can be maintained. How are you going to service and maintain concrete piling structure when there is 250000 ton building blocking its way?
It seems a risky investment for anyone looking to spend 10 million on an apartment. The architects doesn’t discuss about the weather in florida hit by hurricane every year , erosion, and rising sea levels.
Why looks to me as a variation of a very known soil preparation technique, but with a fancier name?
The scope and hubris of this project reminds me of what people say about Dubai and Saudi arabia assuring everyone that building a literal empire on sand in a highly deregulated environment is a sustainable idea. I guess if were all going to "buy, borrow, & die" the retirement capital of florida is as good a location for the beach front sky scraper, what could go wrong? 🤨🤔
What happens to ground water 🤔
Yeah, right... Nature always wins...
Why does it look and feel so scary?
There is a global sand shortage because sand is used to make concrete, and developers seem resistant to using different, possibly more expensive materials... So some genius thought "Hey! Why don't we exacerbate that even more by using concrete not only for the buildings and foundations, BUT literally dozens of feet into the Earth, mixing the very soil with even more concrete? That way we can create an even bigger environmental disaster while we make skyscrapers full of luxury, 10-million dollar condos nobody can afford that will sit half empty for years! Brilliant!" ...I did not even need to make it to the part of the video where they mention the "economic upside" (they're able to add more 10-million-dollar condos to this type of building) to know environmental and safety concerns weren't even being factored in, even though Miami is sinking and the bulk of Florida probably won't exist in 70 years between hurricanes, flooding, and sinkholes. But hey, the developers will get paid NOW people, and that's all that matters.
On top of the insane impracticality of building literally ANYTHING in Miami... that tower is hideous.
It's Pacojet, But For Soil.
It also contains soilent green and is made of PEOPLE 😮
?? Common sense would tell you that setting the building on a stiff soil base will not stop the actual stiff soil base from sliding or tilting, when set against the other soft soil right next to it... sounds good on paper I guess, but I won't be buying a unit anytime soon.
Great idea, but does it have to look so hideous?
but with this method won't they destroy any potential historical artifacts that may be under the ground, without realizing it?
@esont8975
Жыл бұрын
I think they have to use the same method with ground radar they used to uncover how big gobekle tepe really is without digging up everything
@BigJProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@esont8975 lidar? or something I think. you could be right
But what about the drainage issue?
That's good science
Just what the Miami skyline doesn't need.
Hexagonal grids huh? Hexagons are truly the bestagons
got to build them tall the ocean is coming
Why don’t they build down to bedrock? That’s what they do here for even our bridges in Louisiana
Big Ben is the name of the bell, not the tower...
Within 6 days!
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Let's be real, this is Miami...the land of shotty work and corner cutting. This isn't going to end well.
developers developing by the coast, close to sea levels. aren't we supposed to be running for the hills
Wats the point? Just build a shorter block. The vanity of humans
That’s not Big Ben, it’s called Elizabeth Tower
@User-ge7ni
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares 🤓🤓
This technique was used to make Taj Mahal in India. That means indian engineers have been doing atleast hundreds of years ago
Just put some balloons on top and make it lighter
I like this guy actually thinks people will live in those 10 million dollar condos as opposed to rich ppl buying them and letting them sit empty. Tool!
Your map is wrong. I don't think an American company can operate in Syria, Iran, Yemen and Afghanistan.
@divyadella
Жыл бұрын
They said cities in the Middle East, so it could include cities like Dubai and Doha. Also Afghanistan isn't part of the Middle East, it's considered part of Central Asia.
@my0wn0p1n10n
Жыл бұрын
🤦♂️
@colleenpeck6347
Жыл бұрын
Foreign company with American contractors that actually do the building of it!
"oh, I live in cities in the middle east, what about you?"
Not a good long term investment. Might need a boat.
seems like a bad idea then the soil cant absorb water....
Perhaps super tall buildings are not ideal 🤔
Great. So these buildings will withstand a lot, stand around for a while, but if the area ground around it shifts from erosion and and the exact thing the building was design for but the surrounding area wasn't, and the pipes burst - the water pipes, gas pipes, and the SEWAGE pipes - you'd still be SOL with a nice building that stands on its own with nothing to supply it or to take care of its waste, with the surrounding area under water from the rising sea levels and flooding from massive hurricane storms LOLOLOLOLOLOL
But,what about many sink hole incident in Maiami? Are u sure this would be safe?😂
@xoxxobob61
Жыл бұрын
Miami doesn't have sink holes. That happens more near the Gulf coast & central Florida.
Does it have boat docks on the 3rd floor because of, you know...global warming?
@davidanalyst671
Жыл бұрын
no, because global warming is a lie. Thats why obama has two oceanfront houses.
How deeply stubborn are those developers not facing reality to keep on building in Miami South Florida mammoth skyscrapers to cater to Russian oligarchs and other elites when that city is in danger of being underwater eventually due to climate change. Then the taxpayers have to foot the bill to bail them out.
wsj, make pyramids
Sounds stupid I say don’t do it 😅
Within 100,100 views!
stop fighting the environment, skyscrapers are no place for miami
Lovely, but in 50 years time this will all be under water.
Et dans 100 ans, oh merde c'est polluants.
That whole city is going to be underwater in about 50 years. Not sure why anyone is building anything there
Like ants
Bim
One main cause: cheap builders
X+1
No thank you. And the designs of many of these new buildings are hideous.
So they made a concrete and steel building that can float in a vertical position lol they’re about as smart about construction as they are about politics
What a hideous construction...
Building Will be full of laundered Russian money
The nyc of the south. Just in time for the great divorce
What an ugly building.... not wvery building has to be super unique... I think spires should make a comeback. Theese huge boxy buildings look hideous.
Wsj = propaganda machine
When the potential buyers will find out the insurance costs and the condo fee, they might have a second thought!
No way would I even enter one of those monster buildings.
@warrentrout
Жыл бұрын
Your drive to the building is a billion times more risky
@simianwarthog
Жыл бұрын
@@warrentrout Yeah. Still wouldnt go up one of those.