Watching this in 2020, I choked back laughter at that opening line... :(

I love how slowly and deliberately she lays out her message and spoke truth to power. The audience was made up of the folks she was critiquing, but she did not allow that to make her water down her message. Great job!

@Moonawrathic

6 жыл бұрын

So you were judging people by the color of their skin?

@johnnylazalde5801

3 жыл бұрын

If u want equity then your story is contradicting cause its not equal must be treated the same if you jump a grade, its not fare to the other kids. HELLO. You said u want equality. We Already Got Equality it in schools. I Believe all Students in every Grade Level get same amount of school homework and book No Difference if there boys or girls. Your Word Equity is Fake. Your a Joke. We Already Got Equality it in schools. I Believe all Students in every Grade Level get same amount of school homework and book No Difference if there boys or girls. Your Equity is just to try and brainwash us with lies. She's Just lies. Your dividing us with this stupidity nothing to do with Racisms or color. Your a Joke.

@05bastille

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnylazalde5801 *you're - multiple times and on the "your story is contradicting cause its not equal must be treated the same if you jump a grade, its not fare to the other kids." thats the difference between equity and equality. equity means ones individual needs need to be adjusted, equality would say you cant jump a grade because then you wouldnt be equal to your classmates, kinda like socialism, and i dont believe a student should be held back if his ability in a field is more advanced. And just to say we are far from both in most schools especially public schools, and i am saying that as both an educator and someone who studied in a public school in a pretty advanced country (not US). I do not agree on many of her points but at least put the facts right or look at what the definition of words are before making assumptions like "We Already Got Equality it in schools" when in fact stat reports shows how a large percentage of children barely have enough to pay for school supplies and lunch.

@johnnylazalde5801

3 жыл бұрын

@@05bastille What?

@johnnylazalde5801

3 жыл бұрын

@@05bastille LEARN YOUR DEFINITIONS BEFORE U TRY AND TEACH. Equity: involves trying to understand and give people what they need to enjoy full, healthy lives. Equality; in contrast, aims to ensure that everyone gets the same things in order to enjoy full, healthy lives. Like equity, equality aims to promote fairness and justice, but it can only work if everyone starts from the same place and needs the same things.

"A system cannot fail those it was never designed to protect... " (or educate) WEB DuBois.

3:45 THIS IS A BRILLIANT FLIPPING OF THE SCRIPT of judging and assessing what's wrong with education and teaching. Brilliant!! Thanks Dr. Carter! Must reach out and thank you.

I struggle with a system the marginalizing students and teachers. I wanted to talk about the gaps in our building and it put a target on my back. There is a system the oppresses and subjugates people that have different opinions than the people in power and I’m tired of it.

@kellykebo3497

12 күн бұрын

I was loved and used to the point of exhaustion… until I questioned my schools lottery process being conducted behind closed doors. (I had noticed many people coincidentally “getting in” that happen to be friends or family.) After that I was ostracized and removed as head of the yearbook. Seems they only wanted me when I didn’t ask questions.

If the truth doesn't anger you, then that's a problem.

Yes, there is so much today, to learn, GT, Autism, Special Needs, families, economics and racism - everything is connected.

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

RoSean Howard do you think it’s possible for teachers to understand all of these things on top of what they already do? Sounds utopian to me

15:00 This is the sticking-point. Relinquishing advantages runs counter to the competitive spirit. It was hard for people to do 2000 years ago, and it’s hard today. Only the most dedicated and most humble do so freely, and even for them it’s still hard. Meanwhile, young, enthusiastic teachers are dropping out in record numbers - the very ones who might have made a difference.

love your videos and I have cited your work in my thesis so many times!

"Equity and equality are two strategies we can use in an effort to produce fairness. Equity is giving everyone what they need to be successful. Equality is treating everyone the same. Equality aims to promote fairness, but it can only work if everyone starts from the same place and needs the same help." Amy Sun

@mureithialice

5 жыл бұрын

YES...I can also add that equality is mostly about respecting each other's differences and working towards equalizing and even aims to completely eradicate or destroy all TYPES of barriers that are based or connected to the SAID differences. Thanks.

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Celia Anderson the hard part is that “giving” to someone usually means taking from someone else, this is why equity and equality are sometimes at odds.

@DaveWard-xc7vd

3 жыл бұрын

@@mureithialice Equity allows you to reach someone else's potential, not your own.

Cultural differences exist. Trying to design an education system that implies equality in these differences is a mistake. Its what slowed the education system down in the first place. Consciousness means paying attention. The students aren't paying attention.

@MrBigturboweenie

4 жыл бұрын

Not equality. EQUITY. Obviously students cannot all receive the exact same education. However, if there are mechanisms that are keeping some groups of kids from attaining an education worthy of a first world country, those mechanisms must be removed and shunned. The problem is that cultural differences are often misconstrued as "lack of intelligence" and "in need of special education". This is just one example of education not meeting equity. Equality in education is a farce, because every student is different, which requires them to receive different styles of learning.

Crazy...."I got bored with the homework and I would act out" Her Mom used to defend her (as well as me...we went to elementary together) on the notion that we acted out b/c we were unruly rather than us not being challenged by that school system to be our best. Result: She was put in the gifted program and exposed to the best that's out there rather than relegated to the worst based on false presumptions regarding behavior.

@jamesholiday321

2 жыл бұрын

Well there it is a parent who advocates is needed always

10:19 This analogy hits the nail on the head, but only if the worn out shoes represent low g-factor and the polished shoes represent high g factor.

Well done! Very informative and helpful.

Excellent!

thank you for sharing!

The last line is the Great Challenge right?!? “GIVE UP SOME OF MY PRIVILEGES?”. That is where we are stuck as a society in the US. To achieve equity requires the advantages that the privileged have be lost. Or rather the “perception” of loss. As a culture in general, Not many having power is willing to give up power to empower. There is a humility that comes with the work that Dr Carter is talking about. The love she talking about causes you to diminish that self righteous, “I-got-it-all-figures-Out” mindset to really do some real discovery of your students. It feels too much like humiliation and that type of compassion leave one defenseless against the suffering of another. Who wants to really experience that for the sake of some kids that seemingly would never appreciate it? Hah hah! No workshop can teach this stuff. So all in all. Improvements can be made and change and reform can and will happen but overall the human condition is what it is and until we deal with our own hearts things will relatively stay the same.

Why is the audito lagging to the video?

AMAZING!

yeeesss! this was great!

Thank you

Our schools sucked in the south bronx. So as a parent I made the choice to purchase a home in a good school district. Problem solved.

Great speech.👏🏿👏🏿

Good example of when you can't see the forest for the trees. The key in her life story example was her mother; not the system, the teacher, nor racism. As a littler girl she acted out and the teacher took misguided action. It doesn't seem to have a racial component as teachers often don't know how to deal with above average kids. Her mother stepped up and she succeeded because she was a responsible parent who understood and responded with wisdom. Now she's crying racism? What a way to short change her own mother and the system that heard her out.

The system can not fail those it was never designed to protect

Completely agree!

Dr. Carter Andrews gives a powerful talk.

Absolutely love this talk!

An excellent presentation

Watch "The Storm"

Yes...Yes...and YES! This is a systemic problem! Systems need to be changed so that teachers can understand racial inequity and CHANGE!!!

Excellent!!!

@marthamulopa4604

6 жыл бұрын

Dr. Carter, the presentation was so powerful and to the point. Thank you for sharing!

Meritrocity is not a myth. Please don't set low expectations.

@solomonamarezewolde3567

5 жыл бұрын

why is it not a myth when what is called 'merit' is culturally and socially constructed? A meritocracy that values upper and middle class White culture and rejects everybody elses!

@Bosley-qh7fw

18 күн бұрын

​@@solomonamarezewolde3567right that's why east asians are more successful than whites in their own countries? Lmfao east asians are white right lmfao you people are beyond ridiculous at this point.

I am interested in making the captions for this video accurate so that I can share with faculty at my institution. I am happy to do the edits. If you do not wish to share the video, is it possible for me to get a .srt or .vtt file of the existing transcript. I can make the corrections there. Again, I'd be happy to provide you with a copy so that you can update your captions.

Powerful lecture

@danfobb8301

3 жыл бұрын

lie excuses and bs

@CraftyShawn

3 жыл бұрын

@@danfobb8301 it’s not lies this video is 7 years old I personally remember a time I which urban area was under funded I honestly do not know if it’s still that way because I’m a little older she is speaking on systematic racism and it still exist to this day

Equity allows you to reach someone else's potential, not your own.

YES, Dr. Carter!!

there need to be captions on this video

Schools will naturally exacerbate inequities because those that are fast learners (high g) will accelerate away from the low g students.

@carlosdelatorre6939

9 ай бұрын

what does the g stand for?

@hammockcamping2500

9 ай бұрын

@@carlosdelatorre6939 The g-factor, also known as the general intelligence factor, is a construct in psychometrics that refers to the idea that a single underlying factor, often referred to as general intelligence, can account for the positive correlations among cognitive abilities.

@hammockcamping2500

8 ай бұрын

@@carlosdelatorre6939 Did that answer your question?

Great video Dr. Carter! I completely agree with you that there are some groups of people that oppress the ability of others to have an opportunity. The oppression is not only as a student but also as an employee in education. I worked for Valencia College in Orlando, Florida for six years. White men and women hold way over a vast majority of upper level and full time faculty positions. Minorities are put in front line positions to give the illusion of diversity but subtle discrimination is live and well in government and education.

@ohmsweetohm7214

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay H So what's your solution? Take someone's job away from them and give it to someone else? Rob Peter to pay Paul?

@Hello-rl6lp

8 жыл бұрын

Those are your words!

@ohmsweetohm7214

8 жыл бұрын

That is a true statement.

@Hello-rl6lp

8 жыл бұрын

A white person has never been removed to reward a non-white person. Your statement is invalid!

@ohmsweetohm7214

8 жыл бұрын

I don't think you understand my point. My observation ''that is a true statement'' was referring to your statement that ''those are your words!'', that you were correct in your observation that the words constituting my previous comment were indeed 'my words'. As for your last comment, it was not my intention to say that any white person had been removed to reward a non-white person- I do not believe that this has occurred. Instead, it was my intention to ask you whether this would be the correct course of action to address the content of your first comment.

Critical race theory= the latest grift

How can people act like the way to close the gap is more a function of everyone else, and the system changing ...than the people behind the gap learning the material and seeing the benefit in doing so

Made it through this video hoping to see some solutions...couldn't find any...hmm...

I particularly was challenged to think critically about myself through the video presentation by Donna Carter pertaining to an educational system designed by white supremacy. As a white person, when I would hear the term white supremacy, I would think about the extremists out there in the world that we refer to as “white supremacists.” Until watching her video presentation, I did not realize that term is relevant in the educational systems, or that they system is designed by white people of power for white people. That withstanding, I do believe racism is very real and know there are definitely disparities in education. If nothing else, this is demonstrated through the statistics she provides about the number of whites vs. minorities living in poverty. I used to be a young woman who said the words, “I don’t see color.” As I have gotten older I have learned to see color and culture and try to understand how we are different and how we are similar. Embracing differences it truly the only way to understanding each other and then we can “embody a critical love”.

@ohmsweetohm7214

8 жыл бұрын

+Jessica Brown After watching videos like this, I am increasingly convinced of the fact that the problem with 'Separate but Equal' was not the 'separate' bit, but the 'equal' bit, because it was in fact 'separate but unequal'. Now, I am not an American, so perhaps I am missing something, but would not the best way to repair this 'consciousness gap' (not just in Education, but throughout society and business) on a racial basis be to give African Americans (As well as members of the European African diaspora perhaps), Latino/Hispanics, Native Americans and European Americans their own sovereign ethnic homelands out of the territory of the present United States, Canada and Mexico? In each ethnic homeland, each race would be free to pursue their own destiny, make their own laws, assert their own confidence, build their own businesses and develop their own racial consciousness, which I believe would be ultimately better than the half measures and compromises necessitated by a dysfunctional multi-ethnic state such as the US, Canada or Mexico. Why should it not be the case that European Americans, African Americans, Native Americans and Latino Americans be given the space and resources necessary to create their own institutions designed specifically for their own ethnic and cultural needs, whilst interacting with each other as sovereign entities engaged in mutually beneficial trade and dealing with trans-national issues. Yes, I am convinced, not just as a White/European Nationalist, but as a person who hopes to see each ethnic group embrace their own respective nationalisms in their own sovereign territories, whilst interacting with each other in a spirit of common interest through trade and dealing with cross-border, trans-national and global issues.

@zoetropo1

5 жыл бұрын

OhmSweetOhm: Apartheid was no advantage to the oppressed.

@zoetropo1

5 жыл бұрын

Jessica Brown: what then do we say about education in non-white political majority countries, including those where European colonies were never established? They are still often inequitable in their structures and processes.

Great talk! But what do the "concrete actions" we can take to change things look like?

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Ilias Saldana you are just like me. I’ve been asking these questions for years, there are no good answers. These things are vague for a reason as they are supposed to inspire you, not make you think.

@iliassaldana8278

4 жыл бұрын

@@soulfuzz368 Well, this was 6 years ago -- I hope some progress has been made since then. But to your point, I don't think this was "made to inspire and not think." I would say its made to make you think, not act. Yet. Thinking about these problems is always the first step. It's unfortunate that so many people haven't taken that first step because it holds back those (like you) who have been thinking about this for years from making meaningful change. This talk, I guess wasn't for us. It was for those who still needed to take the first step.

@juangordillo359

3 жыл бұрын

For starters, you can read "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" by paulo Freire or watch on youTube Dr. JasonJCampbell's series on "Pedagogy of the Oppressed"

@OptimizeNurse

2 жыл бұрын

There is a great book called "Coddling of the American Mind" (subtitled) How good intentions and bad ideas are setting up a generation for failure. That's worth reading on this topic. It give a good analysis of the problem and actionable steps that can be done to ensure we r setting up the next generation for success.

CRT SHOULD NEVER BE IN MICHIGAN SCHOOLS. AS A GRAND MOTHER I WILL SEE TO IT THAT IT STAYS OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS.

She did not address any reasons why immigrant children of color perform better in the American education system than American children of color do. This is something that needs to be considered when discussing this topic. Furthermore, children of color performed better in school 60 years ago when racism was a bigger problem than it is today.

@aiyanavera3223

Жыл бұрын

bc in these urban settings teachers will push these kids through the system bc they dont have the resources or frankly the time, patience, or pay to do so.

@chicagobrother1970

Жыл бұрын

Ms. Carter didn’t address that topic, most likely, because race in education is a very complex, layered and nuanced issue. That topic was outside the scope of her talk. The comparative issue of which you speak is another talk unto itself.

Another quote that I would like to add incase someone who is social justice warrior labels me that is untrue hate is hate hate can come in any forms Martian Luther king said hate is the worse form to solve problems I think all lives matter no matter where they are or where they are from.

4:20

7:00

Equity is an extremely dangerous value to have...

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Ty Hakes it’s so romantic though

The equity vs equality graphic was spot on. Excellent talk.

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Pam Chapin it leaves out an important point though, that the boxes are actually resources and that these are often scarce. Giving someone a box means taking it from someone else and if you aren’t careful, the box makers will not be able to make as many boxes.

@sibabalontshangase100

Жыл бұрын

@@soulfuzz368 how about we just remove their barriers so that everyone can enjoy the game??

@soulfuzz368

Жыл бұрын

@@sibabalontshangase100 do you have a specific example? This was years ago, I don’t remember the video very much. I think it is still a very relevant conversation though.

Lots of claims and opinions. No references, data, or studies mentioned. Not very helpful

The way she talks with her mouth not moving with the words spoken- reminds me of Bruce Lee lol

Try reading to your children.

More talking about talking about things. When do we actually start the conversation?

@angelinavigil5501

4 жыл бұрын

It was started already. Ask yourself this question using "I" not "we". If you really cared enough you would know this person speaking has made a difference from working within the system to fix the system around all of us. Do your research before speaking on things your nieve to or just don't speak at all. Ignorance is bliss for those who don't care.

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Angelina vigil what has she fixed specifically? Honest question.

I love this and love equity but if you really want to talk about equity and teach others how to be equitable, you HAVE to have accurate captions on your videos in order for your talk to be equitable to the deaf/hard of hearing population. Please consider adding your own captions to make it accurate and accessible to those with less than perfect hearing.

“I tested out of my class in grade school.” “Meritocracy is a myth.” 😂

@mlap1013

11 ай бұрын

it is indeed a myth, hopefully you can look more into it haha

It’s ironic that everything she is talking about here is based on postmodern philosophy created by white European men.

This is very inspirational.

"Embody a critical love... about knowing one another better"

Pulls no punches lol

I think that a student's academic performance is largely determined by his or her cognitive ability, not environment.

@GodHugger

5 жыл бұрын

TheZacman2 but if you don’t have the resources to succeed then you cannot fulfill your full potential, no?

@TheZacman2

5 жыл бұрын

@@GodHugger That's also true. Poverty stifles many great minds.

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

TheZacman2 so does great wealth

There is no such thing as privilege. What you call privilege is in reality the results of progress.

@aaronbeeler7499

3 жыл бұрын

Amen!!

At 0:25 min I have indeed a critical question: why do asians so good in school and then in science? It spoils your poor theory. Would it help when blacks pass highschool with only 30% average like in South Africa? (7 subjects needed, thre at least with 40%, 3 with 30%, one can be 0%. Yes, that is an average 30%)

@terrencethomas1741

6 жыл бұрын

What?

@kikilu79

5 жыл бұрын

Terrence Thomas Asians do very well in Western society. Despite the fact that a lot of them are children of immigrants that can’t speak English. Despite the fact that they come from places with vastly different cultures than our own. What say you about that?

I have a very simple reason for why African Americans are frequently impoverished, and it is not the fault of the current generation. Slavery. When slavery was banned, former slaves didn't get squat. They were poor. And the African Americans today are their descendants. Their parents did not have the resources their child needed. And the cycle continued generation to generation. Here is the question. Do you punish the descendents of the "racist" whites who are not responsible for this at all, or do not help the disadvantaged blacks who do not always have the same resources. In my opinion I would swap out every time she said white with rich and black with poor, but she has a point. Have some qualms with it, but she has a point.

No good can come of this.

Fast forward and this helped the Democrats lose in VA.

Becoming learned takes personal drive, a community providing excuses for an alternate easy path, will surely get it. Terrible message.

LOL...

"whiteness as a cultural norm."

@dudeduder9728

5 жыл бұрын

Then I’ll get a bunch of my buddies and we’ll go break “blackness” Then as I lay there dead with my broken “whiteness” and you’ll lay there dead with your broken “blackness” our grieving mothers will ask the lord “how did it come to this?”

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Moon can you give a concrete example? I’m confused about this.

You can't preach to satan.

@sidneysnowballs8697

3 жыл бұрын

And who do you consider to be satan here?

I value MY money and MY children. My wife and I should have the right to confer as much advantage to OUR children as we can; and no one should feel it is their right to confiscate OUR wealth via taxes to give to others to level the playing field. If a family has good genes, a good work ethic, and is good at delayed gratification, they should be allowed to rise above those that don't.

Good luck America. P,ease keep your poison theories with you.

White surpremacy and "whiteness" are not the social norm. They are the perceptions of people of color. When people of color start attending school and applying themselves the achievement gap will close itself.

@emilyeerosew

5 жыл бұрын

They are the social norm who are 90% of people on t.v. and 90% of politicians. Affirmative actions biggest benefactors- white women . Schools are just as segregated now (some more) than before integration the list goes on and on

@soulfuzz368

4 жыл бұрын

Furrowed Brow savage, but not wrong

@DaveWard-xc7vd

4 жыл бұрын

@@emilyeerosew The US population consists of 5.6% Asian Americans 13.3% African Americans 17.8% Hispanic and Latino 61.3% White, non-Hispanic/Latino All resources should be allocated according to the percent of population each group represents. College admissions could be determined by merits with the best students from each group getting admitted up to their representation in the population. Roles in film and television could likewise be allocated. It's the only way to be fair.

This would be so much better if you had a white man presenting this... where are the male Jane Eliot's?

@CurtisDJunior

6 жыл бұрын

Don Draper No it wouldn't. She gave a personal account of her educational journey and dealing with a white teacher almost leading her in the wrong path it wasn't for her mother.

Typical make it up as you go, unsubstatiated, nonsensical explanation of some education related problems

I disagree with the emphasis on closing various types of gaps. I think it's okay to give every individual an optimal learning experience. If this means some groups or individuals accelerate away from others, so be it. It is my understanding that we are largely beneficiaries of those that have IQs over a 120. So I'm not okay diverting academic resources away from those that are cognitively gifted just so you can close gaps. Also, schools will naturally exacerbate inequities because individuals that are fast learners (high g) will accelerate away from the low g students. Which is fine with me! Schools don't need to close all the gaps. Instead they should be helping each individual move towards their potential. Don't throw all your money at the smart kids, and don't throw all your money at the slow ones either. It is especially important that you don't throw all your money at the students that are learning English as a second language. It is extremely important that we slow down immigration because they tax our academic resources with ESL programs and so forth, when the money could instead be spent on those that have a Heritage and history living here legally. I'd hate for music, robotics, or archery classes to be diminished or eliminated so as to allow funding for lots of special ed and lots of ESL courses.

Thank you

If the truth doesn't anger you, then that's a problem.