Correction: Steve Jobs didn't build anything, Steve Wozniak did. Steve Jobs was the sales person.

@droko9

9 жыл бұрын

Henner Zeller I'm sure the guy who runs a computer museum doesn't know much about early computers, you're right.

@HennerZeller

9 жыл бұрын

He oversimplified the history comically to the point where his statement is wrong.

@pineapplepainter

9 жыл бұрын

Henner Zeller He said, "it spurred steve jobs and steve wozniak to build the apple".

@TheStevenWhiting

9 жыл бұрын

pineapplepainter Which was wrong. Steve Wozniak had already built the Apple 1. Steve Jobs saw him "giving it away" at the Home Brew club the day he went with Steve Wozniak. Steve Jobs then saw the potential to sell it instead of giving it away for free. Steve Wozniak was reluctant at first as he wanted people to have it for free, but agreed in the end. Adding to that, if I remember right from Steve Wozniak's book, the Altair was what inspired Steve W to create what would later become the Apple in the first place, because he knew he could do better.

@chiblast100x

9 жыл бұрын

Steven Whiting Jared DuPont There are at least four versions of this history in circulation. The one I personally trust most is the one from Steven Levy's 1984 book Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution, which had corroboration from multiple people from the Homebrew Computer Club during his research even though it disagrees with both Thw Woz' and Jobs' versions of the events. The Woz had built and demoed at the HCC an expansion for the 8800 allowing for the type of input and output we know today. As was common among hobbyists and enthusiasts of the day, he was simply giving the schematics to the interested. Jobs suggested he could make a little side income by selling prebuilt hardware. Then after some time of them doing this and Jobs playing with a system with these features suggested the idea of forming a company to sell fully prebuilt systems with such an interface. The Woz already had ideas for significant improvements on the 8800's concept and after some bit of cajoling agreed. From this the Apple I and Apple Computers was born. A significant notable thing here is the Apple I used, more or less, the same expansion bus format as the 8800. Jobs, much like Gates*, was more a businessman inspired by the possibilities than directly a tech guy or engineer himself. *Yes, Gates was more of one, but not full out like the Woz and myriad others involved in both companies during the period from the 8800 through the point Apple and MS became the defacto standards for home computing.

Using switches as the primary interface for a computer is a feel that you just can't match

@OmeedNOuhadi

2 жыл бұрын

Roger, Roger!

I wonder if Brady understands that he's going to end up something of a legend in KZread history. I mean, he's been bombing KZread with mini documentaries for years now.

@unvergebeneid

9 жыл бұрын

Zuzu Superfly As far as I understand it, Brady has very little to do with these videos though. Plus, he has so many channels he does himself, it is odd to compliment him on his output on the one channel where he isn't involved in the majority of videos.

@zuzusuperfly8363

9 жыл бұрын

Penny Lane It is a bit odd, although I wasn't aware that someone else was responsible for producing these videos until you told me. Now I know!

@universenerdd

3 жыл бұрын

@@zuzusuperfly8363 tom scott is a legend

I have coded on one like this around 1980. I friends father had one, and we played with it. At Uppsala University Computer Club we made the back plane of a PDP 11 play some AM music too. This was around 1992-1993 though. Lots of fun. :-)

3:40 I get those buzzing noises when I put my phone next to my TV and access 3g data!

Since it has no keyboard or screen monitor, should it be called a electronic abacus instead of a computer??

You almost got the Gates story correct. Bill and Paul wrote a BASIC interpreter to enter a contest for the contract.

This guy sounds so amusingly like Wheatley from Portal 2 :)

I love this channel. I would love to play with an Altair some day. Thanks for making these videos, Brady.

Back when America actually invented things for the hell of it.

I think he meant Steve Wozniak not Jobs

@variszarins

3 жыл бұрын

He also meant Paul Allen not Bill Gates.

I really like the... . . . . The main video . . . . Closing the tags...

@lucaszhou3485

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it creatively references code into their videos.

@fatihgundogdufg

9 жыл бұрын

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a massive 16Kb of ram OMG

@JacGoudsmit

9 жыл бұрын

ashley beaumont It originally came with 256 bytes of RAM, I think. 16K would probably have cost $1500 to $2000 in 1976. As much as a small car...

@ct92404

6 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Faure You could do a lot with 16 kilobytes. I recently bought a vintage Commodore VIC-20 which only came with 5k of memory. And of course, the operating system itself uses some of that, so you're only left with about 3.5k to write a BASIC program. I've made some simple programs with it, but I've already run into the memory limits. I got a 16k RAM expansion cartridge, and now it feels like I could do anything with it. When you work with vintage computers, you can do a lot with not much memory. Within reason.

Great stuff! This chap's voice reminds me if the snooker player Steve Davis; perhaps from the same neck of the woods?

Popular Electronics was the big magazine for makers in the '70s. In the Jan. '75 issue they featured the Altair 8800 and soon computers were its main topic. In '82 it was renamed Computers and Electronics. The Jan. '85 issue was a commemorative duplicate of the historic '75 issue with a faux gold foil cover. They went under 3 months later.

looks in remarkably good shape for something 40 years old

Before coming out with the Altair 8800 MITS was selling calculator kits. They were doing ok I think. They said they were coming out with a programmable calculator but then came out with the Altair instead.

I want to know more!!!!!

That room seems amazing.

"You programmed in binary and you got your answers back in binary" yoo that's hardcore. Skull emoji

But can it run doom?

Gotta love the Dutch angle in this video

The Altair 8800 made its way into my first book "CC me" in my #CryptonauticaSeries (I left 3 historical mistakes in the book hoping someone would correct me. Thus far, only one has been found and reported on. :D)

There is another video on youtube, showing how small programs could be saved, and re-loaded using paper tap. Paper tape being one of the predecessors of punch-cards.

@juddtattershall2540

9 жыл бұрын

MrGridStrom That's "tape", not "tap", but you're right, tape did come into common use before cards, especially for other machine controls. It was used for looms to store the "patterns" s early as the 1880s. For computers, cards seemed to dominate in the 1960s and early 70s and paper tapes were used with teletype machines. When timeshare computing (much like today's cloud computing) got going, teletype machines were frequently used for I/O and many used paper tape to store their programs so they wouldn't have to pay the somewhat steep storage charges to the timeshare providers.

@radicalthunder5740

2 жыл бұрын

@@juddtattershall2540 big whoop

For me . Raspberry Pi + Altair 8800 Front Panel ( Lights and Switches ) = Retro HEAVEN

Must be be difficult getting something done on this machine.

Hmmm I like it but still, Bender's head contains a 6502 Microprocessor..so...you know what I give the trophy to Altair 8800! I think its where Atari got their name :)

I will say this is my favorite computer. When i get tax returns i will buy a replica computer in a kit form.

Really interesting story, and computer.

Oh boy... Sinclair zx81 upcoming. My first computer! (The 'Murrican version of it, the Timex Sinclair 1000)

Steve Jobs was not involved in the development of what would become known as the Apple I. It was all Wozniak's design.

Standardized S-100 bus, expansion cards - I don't know what Jobs saw, but he didn't learn much.

How could this thing have run BASIC, when it's just programmed in binary? I mean, BASIC is a syntax based language, but there is no keyboard to enter a command, nor is there a screen for any output (OK, the output of simple progams could be binary digits, but still)...?

@MrTridac

9 жыл бұрын

Seegal Galguntijak You could hook it up to a terminal.

@Seegalgalguntijak

8 жыл бұрын

KY2 AQW yes, you program it in binary. No BASIC syntax like 10 print "hello world" 20 goto 10 run or whatever.

So, who else went to look at their phones at 3:38?

First minute I only saw the Oculus Rift in the background. So I had to rewind, wth was this dude talking about? :D

If the 8800 is altair, does that make alienware desmund miles?

AM radio, not FM

Who is playing sonic in the background? come on guys....

loving the rift demo in background

I have observed something interesting about this video and its 15500Hz "Buzz", using my audiophile equipment i am almost incapable of hearing it it the video, yet it shows up on my spectrum analyzer. More interestingly is that using a signal generator, as well as audacity i veryfighed that i can indeed still hear those frequancys, and indeed i can. My only assumption is that my current amps are somehow mascing the signal, and i would think that most "consumer" equipment would be able to reproduce this frequancy. Most headphones these days have frequancy responses from 40-18KHz (on the better side of things, those are mesurments btw, not manufacturer specs) Thus anyone should be able to hear it, yet i am astonished that some, including me, cant. BTW, for those interested in the specs of my gear, in terms of frequency response: Headphone: 5Hz - 50KHz (+/-) 3dB Headphone amp: 5Hz-100KHz DAC: DC-48KHz Other system: Speakers: 32Hz-35KHz (+/-) 2dB amp: 1Hz-100KHz DAC: DC-24KHz So the frequency should be well within the reproduction range, one thing to note, the headphone amp and the amp for my speakers are from the same manufacturer, and from the same model line.

@lkentonon

9 жыл бұрын

If it helps I can hear it

@lbochtler

9 жыл бұрын

***** Hm, this is very interesting, using my new near field monitors i am able to hear the sound, using the same amp as with the T1 headphones. Only difference between the headphones and my monitors is, that the monitors have ribbon tweeters. This is very interesting.

I thought jobs found woz after he modified it and suggested they sell them because while woz was obsessing over technology jobs was tripping on acid or whatever he was doing, maybe i had it wrong.

Great video :-)

can i have a job in your amazing museum.... ?

@TheCentreforComputingHistory

9 жыл бұрын

AwesomeVindicator At the moment our centre is run by a combination of employees and volunteers. Check our website if you'd like more details.

🖥

Under 150! That's a first for me! I like that it's called Altair, for (hopefully) obvious reasons. ( It's a conspiracy! It will stab you when you're not looking!)

That high-pitch noise is too much :/

@Computerphile

9 жыл бұрын

HIRVIism kzread.info/dash/bejne/aICNtMmroa3NdMY.html

I can't make it through this video, the high-pitched noise is way too distracting.

@angelinasunny5463

9 жыл бұрын

Щззз

@Computerphile

9 жыл бұрын

Ze Rubenator kzread.info/dash/bejne/aICNtMmroa3NdMY.html

Genesis! :)

Altair ibn LA ahad

Didnt notice the high pitched noise on my phone but did notice the really bad focusing going in and out throughout playback :(

I'd like a low pass filter, please. Anyone else hearing the really high pitched beep?

lots of talk around the thing, mandatory 'this is what got apple started'.. /yawn. What can it do, how does it work, how was it hacked?

@DFX2KX

9 жыл бұрын

Dini Mueter What can it do? Not a whole lot, I THINK it uses the 8008 processor, but I could be wrong. 8-bits, slow, and what's floating point? :D but the cards used a standard format, and there where a few places selling kits for the cards. More ram, plugins to teletype machines (the first Microsoft product used an Altair with beefed up RAM and a teletype), and I think there might have been a blank 'make your own expansion' card for it. Well, you had manual control over everything, and people used that to do unexpected things, like play music with delay loops.. Most of the 'hacking' though, was merely getting it to work, as one bad solder in the whole box would make this not the case.

@Computerphile

9 жыл бұрын

Dini Mueter those details in a video coming v.soon.... >Sean

wrr

Ow, my head hurts. There's a loud, high pitched sine wave somewhere around 14-17kHz, and it's annoying.

@Computerphile

9 жыл бұрын

DragonSky kzread.info/dash/bejne/aICNtMmroa3NdMY.html

@dragonsky2884

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks, but I watched it as-is, while trying to ignore the sound.

Lol

All the whiney Millennials crying and complaining about the CRT noise they supposedly hear...and yet not that long ago people were using CRT tvs and monitors just fine.

Oh god. I could hear CRT whine only a few years back. Here I try to concentrate on it but all I can hear is my tinnitus. -_-

Did anyone also get massively annoyed by that high bleep in the background? Seems like I'm too young for this channel's audio.

@Computerphile

9 жыл бұрын

justwitti kzread.info/dash/bejne/aICNtMmroa3NdMY.html

diggin the oculus in the background

Come on, seriously?? Steve Jobs didn't know about computers even the Altair 8800. @Computerphile should know more about the beginning of Apple and how was the adventure of Steve Wozniak in order to come up with the Apple I. The real genius was Wozniak, he created the Apple I himself, alone!! Jobs didn´t know anything of how Apple I and Apple II were designed, even the amazing Altair 8800.

What's the purpose of a computer like this? Also raspberry pi in the back there

Dat reference from Assassin's Creed

Disliked because of high pitch and tilted camera.

@Computerphile

9 жыл бұрын

Ashish Barnawal kzread.info/dash/bejne/aICNtMmroa3NdMY.html (can't fix the camera angle...)

@lopyus

9 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks!