"Using a new 386 computer is like driving a porche!" and "Fastest laptop on the market, capable at running at 9 and a half megahertz!" LOVE LOVE LOVE The Computer Chronicles! I was 3 when this episode aired.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

then what is running a new 486? like driving a tesla?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I was only 2, you're old

@Mnaughten601

Жыл бұрын

@@ens8502 😂 I would not even be conceived for over a year, your both ancient.

@davidt8087

10 ай бұрын

@@Mnaughten601at least we aren’t as young as gen z 🤮🤮. By far the most pathetic generation of ALL TIME

It's fun to watch these high powered businessmen explaining stuff that's completely taken for granted now

@raven4k998

3 жыл бұрын

the new 80386 based machines are like driving a porche I love it

@bcgibson22

3 жыл бұрын

and has been taken for granted for around 20 years

@allentoyokawa9068

2 жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 porche is junk

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

@@allentoyokawa9068 I know the truth your a porche fan boy just admit it lol

@KayAteChef

Жыл бұрын

These guys could have died in the '80s and still have understood 2023 electronics to a greater extent than the average enthusiast has today. The principles haven't changed.

These old videos have a way of taking me back to when I was a child in the 80s sitting at the family IBM 8088. It's like I can almost smell the paper in the large manuals, hear the click of the 5 1/4 floppy drive and the sound of the monitor crackling when it turned on. Amazing what the mind can do.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

makes me glad I was to young for it 3 ram partitions sounds like a nightmare to me

@Thaleios

Жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 hehe, it was. I had several startup options in my autoexec.bat to increase the available base memory just so I could play certain games. The Sierra games were my favorites but Wing Commander was also one of my faves.

I love the computer chronicles.

@rooneye

8 жыл бұрын

+Solo Gals Me too and though you can see why it was cancelled as after the mid 90's and the Windows era, when people seemed to stop being interested in programming, it turned into shit. I think it would work again today now that people are interested in programming again with the Raspberry Pi, Arduino, Linux, IoT, etc. and talk about programming and stuff again like it used to.

@oldtwins

7 жыл бұрын

That's not why it was cancelled. There was an industry-wide slowdown in Silicon valley after the dot com bust; that led to severe penny pinching of the remaining players who did not have the resources to commit to sponsorships on this level. That, and the cost of running the show escalated, plus Stewart said himself that he was burned out after running things for two decades non-stop and wanted to pursue other interests.

@CameronEly

7 жыл бұрын

oldtwins Not to mention, Stuart was so burned out after 19 years of continuous work with the computer chronicles. I watched a interview from a couple years where Stuart said just that.

@700gsteak

6 жыл бұрын

+Cameron Ely Lets not forget that Stewart was burned out after 19years doing the Computer Chronicles. 19 years!!! It really burned him out and he wanted to do other stuff. He said that in a interview. Burned out!! Damn.

@AcornElectron

5 жыл бұрын

700gsteak also, he was burnt out after so long doing it. RIP Stuart C

Coming from the Unix (or even windows NT) side, RAM resident programs that can corrupt your apps are like “What kind of toy computer do you have that would ever let you do such a thing?!” Makes rebooting the whole computer several times a day a fact of life.

@DevynCairns

10 ай бұрын

Well, before protected mode, x86 didn't even have a memory management unit at all, so there was really no way to have programs not step on each other. The best you could do was try to make them follow conventions that would make conflict unlikely, but that assumes that there weren't bugs or useful reasons to violate those conventions. This wasn't just x86 - microcomputers didn't generally consider an MMU to be a priority at all until quite a bit later because the primary reason for needing one initially was to just stop multiple users from running over each other unknowingly (or intentionally), and a single user system wouldn't need that. But even just managing the complexities of different programs, keeping bugs from bringing down a whole system, and not to mention making malware less effective were all good reasons to have an MMU even on a single user system, and it was eventually part of all workstations and home computers too.

I loved when Chip spaced out for a second. Watch a few episodes of this show, I swear there's a gas leak in the studio

I really liked Gary a lot. He was a hobbyist at his core and while that had a negative effect on his career I really liked him on this show. He really complimented Stuart quite a bit.

@looneyburgmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Gary's fatal flaw was he was a programmer first, business man second, and that just couldn't work in the 70s - 80s cutthroat era of computer development.

@oneandonlymoth

7 ай бұрын

My read with Gary is that his dedication to authenticity literally left him for dead.

In 1986, i was in college learning WordStar, dBase 3, and SuperCalc. This video brings that back.

This content is golden, thank you for taking the time to upload it all in a digital form.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

imagine having to juggle three partitions on your ram with dos sounds like a nightmare

Chip seems like such a caricature, like the 80's used car salesman who does lines in his office during his lunch break.

Google Docs and other similar collaborative document services have their roots right here folks! "Desktop teleconferencing" and InSync software at 22:49! Absolutely incredible.

@acmenipponair

5 жыл бұрын

No. Google Docs is a decendant of Star Writer, later Star Office, a program first written for the CPC 6128 and then the Amstrad PC 1512. That program later became Open Office, is nowadays libre office and google docs is a spin off of Libre Office ;)

I used SideKick in the 1980s, I think I still have the original AST Sidekick 5 1/4”diskette somewhere.

TSR's were a pain in the neck. Every one wanted to be the last program loaded.

They went to great lengths to find solutions which could've been avoided by buying an Amiga and multitasking Workbench.

@johnsimon8457

Жыл бұрын

No lotus123 for Amiga, no one got an Amiga for “office” software. Yes, TSRs are a bullshit hack, source of all kinds of system instability. Dos… It sucks!

@sluggotg

Жыл бұрын

There are too many Rubes who have no clue. (See Rube above?? ). The Amiga OS was the FIRST FULLY PRE-EMPTIVE OS for any home computers. It came out in 85. I suppose the MAC came out with Desktop Video Editing?? ( Hey Mac Rubes... when you use the "Video Toaster", peel back the label it was an Amiga with a Toaster installed). Sorry Mac guys just venting.

@johnsimon8457

Жыл бұрын

@@sluggotg ??? what are you talking about. What are some word processing and spreadsheet apps for amiga? The OS might have been advanced but if there aren't any apps like lotus then it got a reputation as "A Gaming Computer" and that's it.

@fattomandeibu

8 ай бұрын

@@johnsimon8457 I had both Calc for spreadsheets and Wordsworth(full WYSIWYG and font scaling) for word processing on Amiga.

@telesniper2

3 ай бұрын

@@johnsimon8457 That's right, and the primary reason was the 320x200 resolution. Yeah they had lots of colors at that res, but it doesn't make for a useable desktop for productivity software.

Multiple programs at once? What is this witchcraft?

@coolspot18

3 жыл бұрын

Desqview enabled multi-tasking on DOS, even had a primative text windows manager @ 12:22

1986 and DOS was still more multitasking capable than Macintosh was into 1999.

@lucius1976

Жыл бұрын

Nah, their really was not multitasking in DOS. Just in those DR products of Concurrent-DOS or such

A TSR program to manage all other TSR programs.

@mathiasdreke180

4 жыл бұрын

Such is called "operating system"

The comb over on this guy is EPIC

@8BitNaptime

2 жыл бұрын

To this day you can walk into a hair salon and ask for a Cheifet.

@oneandonlymoth

7 ай бұрын

@@8BitNaptimeit’s true, even in Australia

11:01 Computer Training Services 5220 Roosevelt Way NE, Seattle... is a comedy club in 2019. 😃

If the date is correct it strikes me as quite odd that people were still messing around with TSR and RAM resident programs when real multitasking on the Amiga had already been available on the Amiga since 1985.

@apemoon1731

3 жыл бұрын

The Amiga was WAY ahead of PC's for a few years.

@medes5597

Жыл бұрын

Amigas were seen as expensive game machines, partly because of people's view that it was a sequel to the commodore 64. Add to that IBMs existing business relationships ("no one ever got fired for buying IBM" as the saying went) and the amiga had zero chance of any penetration into the business market, which in turn lead to the home and so on. The only market Amiga managed to own for a few years was video production. Even other stuff it was arguably more suited for - serious graphic design and desktop publishing - was taken over by Apple and the macintosh when their display was still black and white. So yeah the amiga could do these things - but every person in this video would have laughed in your face if you suggested they did their serious word processing or spreadsheet work on an Amiga. To them it would be like saying to someone today that they should buy a PS5 for the same purpose.

@telesniper2

3 ай бұрын

I always hear smug Amigatards boast about this without even understanding anything they're boasting about. How was there "multitasking" when their machine lacked an MMU???? I guess you just bought into the marketing hype without understanding the technology.

@telesniper2

3 ай бұрын

@@medes5597 Well yeah, the early macs were monochrome but 512x342. The Amigas were 320x200 but with lots of shiny colors. They didn't get their reputation as a glorified video game console for no reason.

@medes5597

3 ай бұрын

@@telesniper2 yeah, I know. At the same time, Andy Warhol used an Amiga and turned down a macintosh. As did several artists. They definitely could have been used for more than games. But commodore gave up on that market in favour of coasting on games.

The way Dale Leatherman looked at David Whitney (who looks like a Eugene Levy SCTV character), made me laugh out loud.

Those full-length cards were such beasts. And *heavy*.

1986: You can kind of run 3 things at once! 2023: Task Manager- 287 Processes, 6947 Threads, 136399 Handles

His touch on keyboard is impressive...an promotion with an friend...or from university with paper exams...little international little hands have probably programmed behind or he is playing and only made mathematics and paper exams. I had camarads at Master learned how to use an keyboard. Not me but made an develloping exam on Excel. He can be brilliant with learning more mathematics and programmation with paper.

Wait, so you mean there’s ways I can watch this KZread video AND be typing in Microsoft word now?! FINALLY

@raven4k998

3 жыл бұрын

you mean you didn't know that to shame boy to shame

God Tier snark from Paul Schindler, love that dude

love the sound of the blue alps board he types on at the start of the program

Back in the day I knew a few people who used Desqview (before Windows 3.1 was a thing), but I don't know anyone who used unnecessary TSR's like calculators or note takers like they demonstrate because they made the machine stupidly unstable.

@NickKont

3 жыл бұрын

At about 17:00 someone was trying to demonstrate his stupid TSR but didnt went according his plan and nothing worked. DOS simply wasnt meant for multitasking.

@SkuldChan42

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickKont yeah I remember Desqview worked pretty well, but you learned to save your file before switching apps.

@JB52520

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickKont He was showing what can go wrong with TSRs. The problems meant his "stupid" demonstration was a success.

Back when computers were limited to word processing, calculators and calendars. In 2019 90% of computers are used for viewing porn.

@maxxdahl6062

3 жыл бұрын

They weren't limited to just those. They were also gaming machines, online communication, etc. Almost like today.

@beardsntools

2 жыл бұрын

Lol back then when it was impressive to have two or more programs running at same time

@TurboRonin83

2 жыл бұрын

and FecesBook

@lucius1976

Жыл бұрын

I used my computer more for porn in the 90ies then now. I guess it is more an age thing too

Who knew James Spader knew so much about TSR software.

Three applications simultaneously - pah - what hybris!

I looked up Bob Cowart and he's diagnosed with a devastating disease (2). May he get well :(

@squaretrianglez

5 жыл бұрын

You mean Bob coward😆

@dutchsailor6620

Жыл бұрын

@@squaretrianglez Don't let karma hit you on the way out...

@squaretrianglez

Жыл бұрын

@@dutchsailor6620 Never knew I commented this way.

It's all about ram and how fast you can load a program into it. That's how computing works today. Basically, still the same method like 30 years ago, but in gigabytes and SSD. But in order to work with multiple programs 19:00 was the thing we know today as taskmanager.

27:05 Hmmm...little black box that connects between your keyboard and your PC that beeps at you when you make a spelling mistake. Nope! Today we call that a security risk. =)

@dutchsailor6620

Жыл бұрын

What else do you expect from xerox.

dBase III+....the "good ole days"....

14:23 that feeling when you want a snappy demo but it's 1987

Multitasking, invented by the geek wanting to hide the D&D game while at work when the boss comes around his desk. No, I never did that, never had virtual desktops installed for that either, I am a hard worker....and would never use company time to play Baldurs Gate or Icewind Dale years back, yes sir, I would never do that...I also still dont remember the shortcut keys.

@SlinkiestTortoise23

7 жыл бұрын

Marius du Plessis Icewind Dale was the one! Recently went through it again! Incredible game!

Multitasking. Be afraid, be very afraid.

@raven4k998

3 жыл бұрын

to late I am not nor will I ever be afraid muhahahahahahahahahahaha

The absolute first computer I've ever used was a Leading Edge 8088 without an HDD.

@WizzRacing

8 жыл бұрын

+ChillCosmos Same here. I had a very large floppy disk holder and two 5.25 floppy drives. Talk about keeping all those disk labeled and in order was fun. And that 640k of ram taught you how you setup boot drive for different uses.

@calif1mc

8 жыл бұрын

+ChillCosmos Apple II here in 3rd grade (1979-1980), it had two 5 1/4 floppy drives, one to load the OS, the other to load/save programs and your data, no HDD for us! :D

@looneyburgmusic

2 жыл бұрын

I wrote my first novel on a Leading Edge Model M with dual floppy drives... LEWP is still the best word processor ever made, and I would still be using it today if I could get Dos-Box to properly enable printing for it.

5:30 hang on a minute.. It's superman! I'm sure of it!

@raven4k998

3 жыл бұрын

nope there was never an actor named David that played superman he looks similar but it's not him

Prodex looks amazing.

And along came windows and messed it all up!! LOL ... I used to use and develop a lot of TSR based applications back in the 80s and 90s before Windows 95.. its amazing what you could fit in such a small amount memory like 128k but thats why the Ram drive was created !! Could imagine what you could develop under 1024 bytes and now its all developed and managed by windows swap files

@acmenipponair

5 жыл бұрын

Well, today everybody of us has a huge RAM drive right in his windows. pagefile.sys is nothing else than that. It's a huge RAM expansion for the programs and data your computer don't need at the time :D

This is interesting about RAM Resident Software which is about programs that do individual mini-functions that are for quick purposes. I never really cared to use RAM Resident Software on my Windows PCs so I didn't come across any of these system conflicts.

When guests change, they have that music which is not played right.. I think it is supposed to represent the PCs of the era- when they are kind of functioning, but not quite there yet.

22:28 "WebEx", 10 years before WebEx.

Did memory segmentation not exist back then? Could my program mess around with the memory from other program?

23:27 I say you can only sell 8 copies. Name. That. Tune. (spikes the computer mouse into the ground in celebration.)

Wow that keyboard do sound nice it's thocking just like modern mechanical keyboard. I wonder how they are made back then.

Anyone know the name of the font used for the "Computer Chronicles" logo? It was very popular in the 80's in computing, I see it all over.

@rooneye

8 жыл бұрын

+rooneye You can see it at 5:29 behind the guys head there.

@calworthingtonjr.8819

8 жыл бұрын

It looks very similar to a font I see a bunch when digging in 70s-80s stuff. Google for a font called "Data 70".

@rooneye

8 жыл бұрын

Cal Worthington Jr. Yeah that's it :D Thanks :)

@dutchsailor6620

Жыл бұрын

Invented for the first OCR readers.

1986? Just get an Amiga!

@NickKont

Жыл бұрын

You could not use an Amiga in a company. Usually business apps were only on PC back then.

George the robot turned 1986 into 2001,haha.

George sounds like the beginning of Skynet,

Leading Edge - the leader in edging before Microsoft Edge!

0:43 Is that a Peace Ribbon in the center of the Picture.....? O.o It's been around WAY longer than I thought...... :O

@blackneos940

5 жыл бұрын

blackneos940 Where, moron me from 2 years ago.....? >:( WHERE??? Also, I had a crap ton of coffee..... :D Past me, invest in caffeine some more!!!..... :3

0:11 What kind of computer is that? It looks so cool.

@RonJohn63

5 жыл бұрын

That looks like a Leading Edge.

@RonJohn63

5 жыл бұрын

Look at the Leading Edge PCs at 1:15. They look like what Chiefet was using.

@MikesTek

3 жыл бұрын

That is a Leading Edge Model D. 8088 CPU with 2DSDD Floppies and a Blue Alps Keyboard

What was the last of these programs?

Lets not forget about game trainers.

wow check out that AT with EGA monitor

Most ordinary people that don't know Gary would mistake him as a loser. Gary doesn't put on faces or posture, something the ordinary masses do all the time. People of true character and intelligence appear like losers to the masses.

@johnbrown92

8 жыл бұрын

+AirScholar Yep I was thinking the same thing, Garry could solve the issue better than most.

@barryroberts9086

6 жыл бұрын

Such an ignorant comment...

@SWRadioConcepts

5 жыл бұрын

My GF thinks he's handsome.

@blackneos940

5 жыл бұрын

AirScholar The art of the Ninja..... :D Deception, and the Pillar of Ash..... ;)

@AcornElectron

5 жыл бұрын

Bill Gates killed Gary, in a round about way.

I imagine If those people watch them now and laugh at themselves

multiple programs at once? My PC cannot run more than 3 google chrome tabs!!

That’s all Paul needs, a BS computer program that further inflates his ego by claiming he has a high IQ 🙄

I keep my whole OS and program on RAM.

18:15 Francis Ford Coppola got his name spelled wrong here.

Hp 12c I still use that

Dos terminal graphics are still fun

TSR. Nicknamed Trash and Stay Resident from what I remember.

@ballsrgrossnugly

5 жыл бұрын

I always thought it was "Take and Steal RAM"!

Was this a weekly once program

@u0aol1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@u0aol1

3 жыл бұрын

From the 1980's until it 2002 I believe

15:02 Nervous salesman, but the system seems cool

@AvindraGoolcharan

3 жыл бұрын

actuakly the system is pretty bugged. freeze ups shouldnt be possible from user input

14:58 LOL

hmm lemme just check my calendar real quick alt F4 i may have missed a butto---

BOB COWARD POOPED HIS PANTS

I know there has to be someone out there that just wants to start with: 0:40

I wish we can pull up calculators and calendars so easily today!

@ArumesYT

5 жыл бұрын

You can. I use Windows+C for a calculator, Windows+A for a calendar (Agenda). You can create your own keyboard shortcuts in almost every OS nowadays.

@medes5597

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArumesYT both Calender and calculator have built in keyboard codes on Windows because of old IBM keyboards with dedicated buttons for both. You can activate them on any keyboard. You don't need to program any hot keys or shortcuts.

@ArumesYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@medes5597 Which key combination is it then?

@medes5597

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArumesYT its not a key combination it's usually an unused keyboard code. IBM had it added to the standard its on the sheet. You can set it to a key combination if you use a keyboard editor designed for use with mechanical keyboards or even a single button (I have calc set to home for instance). You just need a program to reactivate it.

@ArumesYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@medes5597 So that's exactly what I said: "You can create your own keyboard shortcuts in almost every OS nowadays." What's your problem then?

And then came windows

@dutchsailor6620

Жыл бұрын

It took care of a lot of problems but also created its own.

The first attempts of Multi Tasking.

@ybergik

7 жыл бұрын

The Amiga actually did proper multi tasking already in 1985. It wasn't matched on the IBM compatibles until the very late 1990s (and some would argue even later)

@PhoenixNL72-DEGA-

4 жыл бұрын

Meh, Unix and VAX systems did it long before. And in 86 you had the Macintosh, Amiga and Atari ST that did it and much better and more stable then TSRs. Almost no DOS users actually used TSR programs because they made the machines so unstable.

It weird to think of a non multi-tasking or muti-program computing.

@AcornElectron

5 жыл бұрын

Only if you’re young....

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

@@AcornElectron I know, right? Multi-tasking didn't really come to the masses until the mid 90s, unless you were an Amiga user.

@80sCompaqPC

4 жыл бұрын

Not for me! I use vintage computers on a regular basis! Love them.

@CMDRScotty

4 жыл бұрын

@@80sCompaqPC I wasn't born till 1985 and my first computer was a custom build my parent's bought in 1989 with I486 chip from Intel. I believe it was the 25 mhz model if I can remember correctly.

Discuss Dvorak?

You can tell that they guy that said "Microsoft" because he basically said "master soft"

@ballsrgrossnugly

5 жыл бұрын

I like how your comment about a mistake is so grammatically bad that I assume you don't even speak english! I can't even tell if you are taking the piss out of him it's so bad! XD

@ballsrgrossnugly

5 жыл бұрын

You can tell that they guy that did that comment because he basically can't read or write.

RAM resident Software has no future. You can reload the Software from floppy, if needed.

16:11 아… ㅋㅋㅋ

I think I'd rather just have a physical (paper) notepad and a calculator on my desk.... or maybe they should consider multitasking

@looneyburgmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Computers really didn't multitask back then. We were lucky if the OS booted

25:38 Wow. In 12/2019, NONE of this makes any sense. Just. Wow. !

@TheyRiseBand

4 жыл бұрын

Early version of MFP.

@Aranimda

3 жыл бұрын

Innovation has so many dead ends. This was one of them.

bob?

Now, RAM is super cheap and practically, unlimited

Windows can still pop up applications with key combinations. One thing Macs cant do.

Amiga beats all of this.

@paulgascoigne5343

6 жыл бұрын

uriituw still use one today in a live entertainment environment to control audio mixing as the Amiga just runs and runs and runs. The lighting system however has to use 3 pcs (2 pc based lighting boards and 1 desktop) for redundancy because they fail so often, it was only a shame the Amiga didn't have the hardware or software to run everything.

@retrogamer33

5 жыл бұрын

Urgh - Fuck off with that shit!

These are all hacks. Multitasking for an OS that can only singletask. A hardware spelling checker. Multi-user for a single user OS. A scanner function for a printer.

slow down! users of today would be confused with all the keyboard activities.

@techkpd7681

3 жыл бұрын

How did we go from all this to “it’s too my buttons to press?!”

Zombies

The Robert Luhn dude knows what he is talking about. Haha, does anyone care about this stuff any more? I'm ranting because of scars on my forehead from this time with computers.

fuck trying all that hard DOS BS I just use windows 10 and let it handle handle all my programs running all at the same time in my system ram

The PC was absolutely pathetic compared to the Amiga. It simply had no chance. Took "only" 15 years to come even close.

@evanbarlow5534

3 жыл бұрын

Ironic that Commodore would ultimately be undone by the Amiga line, specifically the CD32

@looneyburgmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanbarlow5534 if it wasn't for the total mismanagement at the top of Commodore the world would most likely still be ruled by Amiga today.

12000 BAUD MODEM. STATE OF THE ART TECHNOLOGY lel.

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

Im sure your is slower!

tahun gw lahir, orang-orang udah ngerti komputer, tetapi perkembangan komputer dari tahun 80an sampai ke 2000an awal itu sangaaat lambat, yang berasa itu di sisi hardwared, klo software dan internet belum banyak berkembang, misal : sudah ada windows tetapi orang masih ada yang develop aplikasi via DOS (pascal, turbo c, basic dll)

@rogehmarbi

5 жыл бұрын

Wew ada orang indo disini... Perkembangan hardware emang kenceng parah jaman 90-an, katanya processor lebih cepet 2 kali lipat tiap tahun, dibanding sekarang (processor jaman 2011 masih ga jelek amat dibanding 2015 keatas)... Software?? Kurang tau kalo itu..

@telesniper2

3 ай бұрын

Garaban tibo nibar hifo

i suppose now your OS ( that is ram resident…) 'takes care" of all the RAM allocation, its a real tragedy of creativity and freedom, the tyranny of the bulky , buggy, one size fits all OS.

@ballsrgrossnugly

5 жыл бұрын

While I don't totally disagree, do you REALLY want to spend all your time organizing the 50-100ish little bullshit RAM hoggers one at a time.... MANUALLY?? I mean, have at it but you won't be getting anything else done before dinner!

@acmenipponair

5 жыл бұрын

Well, without that OS that does most of the work for you, you would have to manually or by autoexec have to load all your drivers by hand, as well as for example software to connect you to the internet etc. Nowadays the computer handles so much on it's on in his OS, because otherwise we would be overwhelmed with the tasks.

Windows is a pile of shit! Still is today!

QUESTION: how do you know that UNIX and UNIX like systems would someday run the world (APPLE iOS, OSX, Raspberry Pi, and LINUX) ANSWER: The fact UNIX and UNIX-LIKE has absolutely no need to deal with TSR!!!!!

Bob would easily get away as a trans woman. Oh, forgotten. Back in the day, people were normal.