I love when he has multiple "stations" set up in the set, and the ensuing awkwardness when he moves on to the next station leaving the salesman just standing there.

@remghoost

11 ай бұрын

I usually like to play a game when this happens. I've found there are usually three possible outcomes. 1. The guest leaves their chair and exits the frame without us seeing. I like to call this the "ghost maneuver" 2. The guest leaves while the camera is on Mr. Cheifet, allowing us to see them leave. This is the least professional of the bunch. I'd imagine it happens because the guest is nervous. No harm, no foul. 3. This one is my favorite. The first guest stays seated through the entirety of the second interview. The building tension wondering "are they going to just sit there the entire time....?" is usually all I can focus on in these situations. Usually if they're there by the 2nd cut back to Mr. Cheifet, they're in it for the long haul.

@yellowblanka6058

11 ай бұрын

@@remghoost Lol, it would be great if the first guest randomly turned around and was like "Oh, Mr. Cheifet, sorry to interrupt, but there's one feature of our product that might be of interest here...."

@Petr75661

11 ай бұрын

I love those who pretend that the interview was just a short distraction and they resume working on something "important" in the background as they get out of focus.

@johncortez1599

9 ай бұрын

Highly underrated comment! @@yellowblanka6058

we use to call it plug and 'pray'

@ruthlessadmin

9 жыл бұрын

hifijohn Was just going to say the same thing :D

@700gsteak

6 жыл бұрын

Back then it really was plug and pray because the windows drivers for it were very unstable. It would just die by itself if you were lucky enough to get it working in the first place. haha

@BollingHolt

5 жыл бұрын

Yep! Plug and pray, or plug and play with!

@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881

4 жыл бұрын

Europe here: same.

@raven4k998

4 жыл бұрын

@@BollingHolt lol plug and pray as in pray windows didn't lock up or worse bluescreen of death

Amazingly Macintosh has become even more easy to upgrade - now you simply throw your old Mac away any buy a new one

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

worlds going that way now sadly, those days where we would drop another upgrade in is becoming a thing of the past, and i recon the PC will go that way at some point too. Just chuck it and buy a new one.

@BlownMacTruck

9 ай бұрын

This is a pretty dated way at looking at Macs. Most of them are upgradeable - some more than others. But other than RAM (which few people upgrade these days unless you REALLY cheaped out on RAM to begin with), what would you really need to upgrade? It's not like people do this on PCs or phones or tablets; the only people who do it semi-regularly are PC gamers, and that's an incredibly niche category that Apple doesn't care about. Calling out Apple in this regard is disingenious.

@si4632

9 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@nabagaca

9 ай бұрын

@@BlownMacTruck How are they upgradable? With the transition to apple silicon, the storage, ram, GPU, CPU, and security chip are all built into a single module, tied together with ids that require reflash if you want to replace them, and can only be replaced if you happen to have a station capable of reballing them. On top of that, the screens have also started being tied to the motherboard, meaning you cant replace or upgrade that either. I genuinely, other than software, cant think of how a modern mac can be upgraded, and I own a M1 macbook air and am an apple user. Maybe you can call the Mac Pro upgradable since it has PCIE ports, but even then they dont support graphics cards.

@BlownMacTruck

9 ай бұрын

@@nabagaca You have what is basically an external pcie bus with Thunderbolt. Add as much storage as you want. Want iops? Get an nvme DAS array. Want bulk? Get petabytes of nl storage. And I laugh at your cpu / ram upgrading. No one does that anymore, not even on the PC side (and this is coming from someone who builds gaming PCs). Size accordingly when you purchase.

I’ve been binging through these old videos. Damn the nostalgia is hitting hard.

@vernonsmith6176

9 ай бұрын

Yes it does, I remember running a BBS system using vision software on my commodore 64 in 1989-1991!

@WessyD123

9 ай бұрын

@@vernonsmith6176 I ran one using Renegade on my 486

@procta2343

9 ай бұрын

@@vernonsmith6176 i just say remember using BBC computers at school, that was when the school only had 3 to 4 computers. All were on a red wheeled computer desk. By the time i was 9 we got a couple of newer systems, that ran windows 3.1, and some one decide to turn the monitor to very dark. Which had the school teachers baffled for a few days, they even got some one out to have a look. Holly hell let loose over that one. Due to the school getting just them in.

It's interesting how much you can learn about modern computers and issues by watching these old videos.

those were the days, IRQ conflict and blue screen

@familylaracuente7417

3 жыл бұрын

Man! You just brought back a tone trauma I had hidden deep in my soul... thanks!

@Astinsan

3 жыл бұрын

More than that. A lot of motherboard manufacturers would place more slots than the bus could ever handle. The mouse interface is what really made it evident. The cursor would pause.

@thelastdruidofscotland

Жыл бұрын

@@Astinsan fsb was critical, only higher end systems could handle the input.

It seemed for me that no matter what modem and soundcard I had Windows 95 didn't have the drivers for it.

@test143000

8 жыл бұрын

+joseph fulks PnP is not about drivers, this is a mechanism to discover new HW and allocate resources for it

@ballsrgrossnugly

8 жыл бұрын

If it wasn't for the internet, we would all have the same problem to this day!

@ballsrgrossnugly

8 жыл бұрын

HYPER! DSG That network on interconnected computers is where you get most of your drivers from these days... That's what.

@ballsrgrossnugly

8 жыл бұрын

HYPER! DSG *critique. Man you really don't know shit do you? But hey, go on and try to force people to think you are smart with lies like "I have written papers for blah blah..." when clearly you have no grasp of the English language, and If you wrote a peer reviewed paper, I'm Mary Poppins... We clear? Good, you may fuck off now. I do not care for morons.

@ballsrgrossnugly

8 жыл бұрын

HYPER! DSG You have no desire to learn, my good sir, you have a desire to troll, make no mistake. You want an honest reply, with no name calling? Here we go. My original post had no reference to your name in it. You where the one who assumed that it was a reply to your comment and decided to start picking apart every single syllable of it so that you could refute it. (Using facts, I might add, facts which may not pertain to the actual content of my own comment, but nonetheless, I have to praise you for knowing at least something about something). I don't really know why you decided to do that, and my promise to not be offensive precludes me from speculating, so I will not. So, when I decide that you are obviously trying to start, whatever you where trying to start there, and call you out on your, whatever that was, you decide to dig your hole a little further and try to tell me that you have written papers on some such, which i see you have handily deleted, because they where probably bald faced lies (sorry, speculation, stopping) and then, when I tell you that basically I think you are trolling, and really hammer home the point that I do not suffer trolls and will just needlessly fuck with them (because they seriously hate that and cannot handle it), your reply is to act like the sheep in the whole thing, delete any reference to any "writing papers" garbage, replacing it with a heartfelt have a nice life comment, to try to, what, look like the good guy here? I really don't care what I look like on some backwater youboob comment, who the hell will ever read this, besides you and me anyway? Do you think that by now the OP has not muted his own comment because of this whole thing? Trust me, I have been quietly chuckling to myself for days now every time you have replied to me and I have been able to have a little fun with you, so I really don't care what kind of face you are trying to put on today, tomorrow or the next day, I think this conversation has kind of reached an end with that last comment of yours being just about unintelligible, from a grammar and sentence structure point of view, that I now think that you might have English as a second language, so I am just going to leave this little detour here to fester in some server at Google's farm, where it shall be stored for generations so that your children can witness this glorious achievement, when... wait, I'm slipping into sarcasm, I'm a little tipsy and tired from a hard day's work, forgive me. Ok, I think that, either way, I have made my point by now, if you even still reading. I don't mind typing a while for you. You are welcome. Have a nice life yourself! I hope that you can find something better than a computer to keep you company some day. Namaste.

I remember when I was a kid and using Windows 95. Plug and play was improved on Windows 98SE greatly. Windows 95 PnP was a nightmare, or it would work the first time; hit or miss.

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

how things have changed since those days my friend, Now windows 10 goes out into the world and finds the drivers for you. When you think about it, windows 95 must be like MSDOS to windows 10, and windows XP would like windows 3.11 todays standards.

I remember the very next day after my wife got me my first PC I installed a Sound Blaster 16 sound card. I was nervous but I read the manual completely and I took off the case cover, shoved in the card, Connected my speakers, and installed the drivers. Took me 20 min because I was taking it slow. No problem. Was the beginning of my decades long upgrades.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

yeah and this was before the only bloatware on your computer was windows it self back then they bloated it up with useless shit to slow it down for you right off the bat those where the days I remember them well

Hey, wait a minute... HP invented Starlink 30 years ago!

Well done, Phoenix, AMI and the other BIOS developers. Still form a hidden part of our PCs, with only 3 BIOS developers of note left.

@DripDripDrip69

9 ай бұрын

Nowadays most if not all DIY motherboards have AMI UEFI BIOS, Phoenix mostly does server and IoT stuff now, and then you have InsydeH2O UEFI BIOS in many laptops and prebuild PCs.

@connclissmann6514

9 ай бұрын

@@DripDripDrip69 Phoenix do the BIOS for Lenovo also, I understand.

In 1994 the capacity of a 650 Mbyte CD ROM disks was incredible in comparison to the capacity of a hard disk which was hardly one gigabyte. From the 1.44Mb of floppy disks user move to the 100 MB of Zip disk and the 650 Mbyte or 700 Mbyte of CD ROMs. I remember well that period. CD ROM changed everything and were the main reason before internet for many people to buy a computers. Sound cards existed long before CD ROM but weren't very popular or cheap.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

In 1994, most computers even had hard drives that had a lower capacity than CD-ROMs. CD-ROM was an incredibly cheap mass storage medium for the time.

@yellowblanka6058

Жыл бұрын

@@McVaio Eh, CD-Burners and media weren't anywhere as cheap as they are these days in the mid 90's and were orders of magnitude slower at accessing data than hard-drives.

@ytscksdabig1

11 ай бұрын

@@yellowblanka6058 People want to look back with rose colored glasses and forget that CDRs and CDRWs were a whopping 1-4x speed back then, not the 48x standard they are now lol.

@longlivebytor

8 ай бұрын

In 1994, we were just starting to see 1 gb drives. I bought a 720 MB because it was finally affordable. LOL

That Packard Bell overlay was totally useless and simply took up resources.

@raven4k998

4 жыл бұрын

yeah but all brand name computers are like that dude they all have bloatware to slow them down

@Daehawk

4 жыл бұрын

@@raven4k998 Mine didn't but I was a little lucky. It was a Circuit City sale PC and was used as a store demo unit :) Unlucky in that it had a password to boot it lol and I had to call back and have them find it.

@raven4k998

4 жыл бұрын

@@Daehawk nope you just didn't notice the bloatwares power loss had you uninstalled it that computer would have been a screamer

@mrflamewars

4 жыл бұрын

Compaq Homebase was worse.

@gregorymalchuk272

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daehawk How big of a discount did they give you? What year was it?

Took them days getting their multimedia setup working. It took me a few hours to assemble a new pc.

@cappaculla

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, you are amazing, really !!

@kidthorazine

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, shows you how great plug and play actually ended up being once they worked out the initial hiccups.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

Even without plug and play, it doesn't take me days to get everything working. It's more complicated but it takes me a few hours at most to figure everything out. And when using software that tells me all the resources that are in use, it goes even faster. I don't know how it takes a supposed expert days to figure it out.

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

now the way things are going with PCs you can practically have a system up and running with in an hour. All of it is practically on the motherboard now. Just pre the full lot on the board, and if you have a spare PSU and a switch you could even install the OS, before you put the board in the case!

I remember sometimes even when I had made sure every card had its own unique IRQ and base memory addresses, it still would not work. I would spend countless hours changing all the settings on each card and in the OS repeatedly until finally I figured out that one card would only work with a certain IRQ (even though it had other possible settings available on its DIP switches or jumpers). Very frustrating.

@jeffyp2483

10 ай бұрын

add a card that required a tsr to set that up, then install 95. sheesh!

@georgeh6856

10 ай бұрын

@@jeffyp2483 Huh? First, your profile picture is a Commodore logo. Commodore was never owned by Microsoft. I guess it is possible that one can be both a Commodore fan and a Microsoft fanboy. But back in the day, Microsoft and Commodore were rivals. Second, what you stated was not the case for me. The cards I had did not "require a tsr to set that up". If you had cards that did that and worked fine with Windows 95, then great! That just was not the case with me.

@jeffyp2483

10 ай бұрын

@@georgeh6856 some cards used software to set dma, irq, etc if yours werent thats great and not surprising to me. microsoft authored the basic in commodore computers. some of the last computers to wear a commodore badge were x86 based. im not a microsoft fanboy, but i have used their oses starting with msdos. i am (slowly) moving away from windows + linux based oses part time to linux full time. windows has gotten worse over the years. i think it was best between 95 and xp (inclusive) but win3.x has a nostalgic quality the others cant.* *for me, in case anyone has difficulty.

@waynejohnstone3685

9 ай бұрын

Yeah and there was no KZread to walk you through the process lol.

@georgeh6856

8 ай бұрын

@@longlivebytor Plug and play still uses IRQs. It just assigns them programmatically. With that kind of thinking, you should be sending your messages via telegraph, not KZread.

Note that the access bus discussed here became USB, the most successful and dominant peripheral communication standard.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

Yep, and it didn't come from Apple of course.

@WankieYT

Жыл бұрын

ACCESS.Bus was a totally separate standard by DEC and Philips that only supported really slow devices like keyboards and mice and predated USB by like 2 years. It was a total failure in the market and is completely unrelated to USB.

@ebridgewater

11 ай бұрын

Not quite, @vitajazz "An industry group, the ACCESS.bus Industry Group, or ABIG, was created in 1993 to control the development of the standard. There were 29 voting members of the group, including Microsoft. By this point DEC had introduced A.b on some of their workstations and a number of peripherals had been introduced by a variety of companies. Development of USB began the next year, in 1994, and the consortium included a number of the members of the A.b group, notably DEC and Microsoft. Interest in A.b waned, leaving Philips as the primary supporter."

Don’t forget guys, join the discussion with their forum ON-LINE..

Sound blaster DMA and irqs used to drive me mad

the 90s was the best time for computer technicians. Back when you actually rely on a computer tech to maintain your. I bet the avid computer gamer now who knows how to build a water cooled cpu and gpu does not know what parts were going into 7:06. Its really important to understand these fundamentals for future computer technicians. These days, From a business standpoint, Most of these hardware stuff are worked on by manufacturers like Dell, Lenovo, HP and Compaq (thats a joke). The technicians of today are needed for software and application support. Cloud storage and local storage support. Days are gone when you have to go onsite and check the motherboard lol

@MattExzy

Жыл бұрын

If I could hazard a guess - the first card looks like a modem, the second looks like a SCSI/parallel port controller thing, and the third might be a soundcard. But being able to tell what they are from a grainy video is irrelevant almost thirty years later - all of that functionality is integrated or hopelessly obsolete by now.

@yellowblanka6058

Жыл бұрын

@@MattExzy This - unless you're working with legacy systems in industry etc. that information is largely irrelevant these days. So many functions that used to require large add-in cards now occupy a small portion of a chipset.

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

@billn.1318 i bet they wouldn't even know how to build an old system like that, let alone even seen windows 3.x A kid i used to work with, has a Gaming PC, and he never even saw windows 98! he said i used something called windows which had a black screen, (which would have been windows XP, ) I showed him photos of windows 3.11 and windows 95, he said that's the stone ages! I said you never lived!

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

also @billn.1318 yeah the Computer tech roll now is more software based, and the hardware is bought from manufactures from DELL and HP. id be surprised if a onsite Tech even goes anywhere inside a PC now. When i studied windows XP 20years ago, and i did some work building PCs, and from what i got in my hand, i knew that PC building wasn't where the money is at all. On the Microsoft course i did, we used VMWare which would be the up and coming thing, my friend who is in the field. Didn't believe me, until one night we were having a drink, and said he was sorry, i was for what? He said for not listening to you about VMWare. We have just started to use it and its already made some hardware systems redundant. Now nearly 20 years later, my friends server room that had well over 10 to 15 systems in. Are now down to two little boxes. All running VMware.

@airjuri

9 ай бұрын

Back in the days gamers knew something, nowadays nope. And that is why newcomers to software development are some python scriptkiddies lol ;)

Woops i just copied THAT floppy lol

Gold at $400 an ounce....how I'd love to go back in time.

The worst part of my early computer days was fiddling around with jumpers on my motherboard or new hardware to make it work. Then might have to mess with the irq til something worked lol. Even then I'd boot up and then a pop up would say I'm missing a file or DLL before I could use it. All this when I was 8 years old 😐

@yigidovic

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha that is what your current job id based on, right? What you do for living?

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

god i hated jumpers on the pentium 1 motherboards, used to get the arsehole twitching in case i fried the processor.

Kinda hate how Stewart and the guest act like before PnP it was the dark ages of computers. I mean ya PnP is amazing especially at that time. But I got my first PC in 1994 and had no idea about how to do anything . Yet the next day I installed a SB 16 sound card and was up and running in 15 minutes. It was simply read the manual, check the jumpers, install the card, then install the drivers and reboot. Tada. They make it sound like some amazing unknown task.

6:17 Carl Stork of Microsoft gets technical. I love it.

2:05 I used that exact CD/SB16 upgrade kit back in the day on the family Compaq Prolinea 425/S we had at the time. The drive was a 2x if im not mistaken.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

how much faster was scsi over ide?

Imagine installing additional devices ... having problems ... but no internet available ... well, that really could take a few days, back then.

@kidthorazine

3 жыл бұрын

and even if you did have access to compuserve or usenet or whatever, you likely only had one device that could access it, which is the one you where working on.

@oldtwinsna8347

2 жыл бұрын

It was not a fun process. This is why when I see various retro computing channels trying to do what I had plenty of days doing before I just shake my head and move on. Had plenty of my fill and zero desire. I'll use my modern devices happily.

4:53 -- I thought she was gonna say "This notebook user is a hot donkey" XD

@weaponofmassconstruction1940

3 жыл бұрын

Spasticated.

@unnamedchannel1237

3 жыл бұрын

Hot docking , so many damn laptops and desktops around the office who needs a hot dock

I amazed that OSD control with PC is so rarely used, it's 30 years now.

That's one hell of a combover, its award winning, not quite the oscar standard of donald trump but still an award winner.

My parents worked at Compaq and I remember it being refered to as Plug and Pray for several years by Compaq staff.

Plug 'n "pray" is what we used to call it

"The PC has been around since 1981 and it's getting antiquated" God, if he knew...

@straightpipediesel

10 ай бұрын

There's actually little of the 1981 PC left. ACPI came in 1996 and modernized the OS interface to buses and I/O, this fixed problems with plug and play. Then UEFI became mandatory around 2011 and replaced the BIOS. You can't boot MS DOS on a modern PC because of this.

I have to imagine the Packard Bell team that made these beautiful machines and had the ahead of it's time idea with Navigator got snitched up by others (Next? Apple?) Their branding and design came out of nowhere and then just stalled as the quality control and performance dropped, and then Gateway and Dell took over the rest of the 90's and 2000's.

We need a remake of the Computer Chronicles but this time wrapped in a thick vaporwave mist

I love those old Packard Bell computer, the first computer I've use look like exactly this Packard Bell computer ! It was a PB 486 SX 25 with Windows 3.1

"notice it's a single click" damn that's advanced

Ah, early Plug and Play. Only worked when it felt like it

@brenomordida

3 жыл бұрын

Nice bi flag 😻

I love how they just sent a simple txt file through infrared, had they sent a couple of megabytes it would have taken ages.

@cappaculla

3 жыл бұрын

You figured that out all by yourself?

@GoldSrc_

3 жыл бұрын

@@cappaculla I'm really smart, aren't I?

@waynej747

3 жыл бұрын

The way IR worked, a few megabytes probably would have failed, like the “press release” print job did later!

That very Multimedia upgrade kit was the first PC hardware I ever installed. The one in the opening, not the creative:(

If you'd had a PC with a SCSI harddrive and thus an already installed & supported SCSI card, this would be exactly the same as on the apple... Its just about open choices, which will come with different problems yes...

I moved from Win 3.11 to Win95 and I still needed boot discs for every game because none of my games was supported by Win95 (except for Kings Quest VII).

0:34 - 3DO? :P

@Clay3613

8 жыл бұрын

+venichen1 Yup.

@SummerFunMan

8 жыл бұрын

+venichen1 What about it?

If I remember correctly things weren’t that different before plug and play. You installed the card or device and setup irrupt settings in bios telling computer how give resourc accesses to devices without conflicts.

OMG THAT SPEAKERS SIDE BY THE MONITOR

internet had just started. if you lost the driver disk you were basically screwed...

Plug and play. Hmmm. Amiga was doing that in the late 80s. It was also more powerful than PC's released at the same time.

Still remember when Gates was on stage and got BSOD trying to install a printer i think

I wish the computer chronicles were updated to 1080p on bluray. I know i would buy it.

@user-xr3rb6pn9m

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterjszerszen nowadays, AI is actually capable of up-scaling low-resolution videos, and the results can actually be pretty impressive :)

@oldtwinsna8347

3 жыл бұрын

Be happy these are even around, especially the 80's materials. If it were BBC or something they would've reused the video reels for other show tapings and edits. Tons of material irrevocably lost forever.

Win95 really changed the game, however, cheaper systems could run into major problems with plug and play, with irq conflicts, and not enough FSB bandwith, also, board power, ic, and psu all had to be compatible, many were not.

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

it was said that windows 3.x was the game changer with drivers, windows 95 came out, that's when things really started to kick off, for standards

Oh boy ribbon cables, glad they went away.

Fun fact: All of the electronics in this episode are gone since long, or maybe some part is in a museum somewhere...

@airjuri

9 ай бұрын

There is somehow retro community that has these thingies still... I'm not retro PC community dude but i have some hardware that is from early 90's and i can burn CDs with them :D

The idea of Plug and Play devices to hook up to a PC was an amazing concept, but it was eventually associated with the USB (Universal Serial Bus) on the Windows 95 and beyond. This particular TV program was aired just months prior to the debut of Windows 95. Since I have a Windows 95 Pentium MMX 233 Mhz PC I didn't have to worry to much of these things at the time.

@fattomandeibu

7 ай бұрын

It's still done with expansion cards, plug in a new graphics card or a NVMe expansion card and PnP will work its magic. You should still check for updated drivers if it isn't a generic device, but that goes for USB, too.

@wallacelang1374

7 ай бұрын

@@fattomandeibu of course my Pentium MMX 233 Mhz Windows 95 PC had the original USB 1.0 which was eventually replaced by the USB 2.0 on Windows 98 and beyond, so I couldn't port things over to a new PC using a USB flash thumb drive because of incompatibility between the two different USB formats. I resorted to copying files smaller than 1.33 MB on a bunch of 3.5 inch disks and the large size files had to be burned to CD-Rs to be transferred.

That palmtop thing with the HP StarLink device plugged into it allows it to receive news and info via satellite?! I didn't know they had devices like this in the early 90s! Damn. Its crazy to think just how technologically advanced we were in the 90's even though most of this cutting edge stuff was underground, only used by rich tech nerds. It took 15 years of progress and development to get these products the the hands of the common man. It's crazy to know the ideas and much of the technology we use today, albeit in a much more primitive form, actually existed 25 years ago!!!

@drygnfyre

3 жыл бұрын

You should find videos of Steve Jobs showing off NeXTstep. It had many of the technologies of modern macOS. Even some of the applications were near identical. And it was released as early as 1985. Things like drag-and-drop, being able to visually design applications, being able to run automated scripts, etc, have been around a long time.

@straightpipediesel

10 ай бұрын

It wasn't satellite, it was based on paging networks. Where satellites came in was with the nationwide paging networks: the data stream was uplinked to a satellite and simultaneously broadcast to hundreds of paging base station transmitters across the country, which would then transmit the same message. It was needed because the paging networks, at that time, were strictly one-way.

You still had to disable IRQ conflicts. If you wanted to use something. As it had a 16 IRQ limit. And being the sound card use 3 right off the bat. The video card used 3, A CD rom added 2 and a printer used 2 IRQ...After installing a floppy, A Hard Drive... You reached the limit. I found it too be the worst experience ever. Not to mention adding an USB external device.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

That's very exaggerated. The sound card could potentially use 3 IRQs, one of which was for the CD-ROM interface. Other chips mostly just used one IRQ. For example, IDE used one IRQ as a whole, that wasn't per drive. Printers were connected to the parallel port which used just 1 IRQ, etc.

@WizzRacing

Жыл бұрын

@@McVaio It's not "Exaggerated".. I had to instruct employees to stop sending in tickets for this issue. So We sent out Cards on how to deal with it.. And it got worse with external USB devices coming out..As Windows 95 sucked. And it's still an issue with Windows users today..

It gave me so much anxiety that they didn't "read that first"

25:20 StarLink

Star Link?! Law suit for Mr. Musk, surely? I'd love to see these guys rich beyond their wildest dreams....

25:34 I think the IR connection failed because that sure doesn't look like a press release to me.

@waynej747

3 жыл бұрын

IR data transfer was extremely slow and it didn’t take much to cause a print job or data transfer to fail. Block the IR connection (or turn off the sending device too soon) and bang, print job corrupted! Also one thing I’ve noticed watching these shows is that Stewart Cheifet liked to keep things moving quickly, so there was no way that guy was getting his press release printed on TV anyway!

they must have been blown away by usb

Anyone know what kind of watch Stewart was wearing here?

@NASEERTUBE2012

3 жыл бұрын

Vintage Casio dual time watch ⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰

Windows 95, sounds fancy. I'm still using TOS.

OMG navigator. I had that. lol. It was terrible....

@ballsrgrossnugly

8 жыл бұрын

Well, considering it basically evolved into firefox, you might just be using it's great, great, great grandchild!

@jaikishorsharan5971

4 жыл бұрын

@@ballsrgrossnugly no that was a different terrible navigator, I had that in the windows 95 version which resembled a house with 3 rooms.

There's a difference between internal and external installation of a CD-ROM drive. The Backpack CD-ROM drive for example, was just as simple to install on a PC through the parallel port. Want to install an internal CD-ROM drive on that Mac II? You can't. It's impossible, period, because of how the case is designed. PCs were definitely more versatile but therefore also more complex.

@straightpipediesel

Жыл бұрын

The parallel port was awful and slow, and you'd run into printer compatibility problems, not to mention printing would basically stop your CD. CDs were the worst because they fundamentally transferred data into the PC, and it did this by literally twiddling the out of paper status lines, an extremely slow process. Meanwhile, Macs since the Mac Plus had SCSI built-in, so you'd get internal-level performance with external convenience. Before USB, PCs were plain bad at ports. 2 serial ports and a parallel port and that's all you got. A modem, printer, mouse, and you were done.

Gold being $400 per ounce? Man, last I checked it's $1900 per oz now.. Madness

@SpiDey1500

Жыл бұрын

Bro, don't forget Inflation. You can't compare the value by number.

@rogehmarbi

Жыл бұрын

@@SpiDey1500 Yep, I was actually commenting about... the inflation

25:28 That paper looks like it is possessed!

I wish I had floppy disk to copy.

3:14 And Now is a Mac OSX version... Also a CD ROM format

"HP Starlink" lol

access bus was basically USB V 0.1 which I believe was developed in 94 or 95

And, 25 years hence, P&P still sort of works only some of the time.

@user-lk7cv8vg7r

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I follow. The plug and play referred here has to do with IRQ and DMA addressing. I experienced one issue with plug and play in the last 20 years! XP really perfected it. What devices are failing for you?! Keep in mind drivers and plug and play are totally different things.

@HuggieBear39

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-lk7cv8vg7r Yeah I know putting a PC together now involves just installing everything and turning on the PC Back when I had the Packard Bell sx 25 I had a hell of a time getting my new sound card and modem working.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-lk7cv8vg7r Correct. No one has to deal with IRQs anymore since Windows 2000. A lot of people talk random bs on the Internet.

I took the bus once , was a great ride and I ended up in the destination I was expecting.... outstanding

"Reading High Sierra File Access" at 3:14

@yuriythebest

3 жыл бұрын

yup that mac was way ahead of its time

@straightpipediesel

3 жыл бұрын

The High Sierra filesystem was the original filesystem used on CD-ROMs. It was named after a casino where they met, and it eventually evolved into ISO 9660.

This edition of Computer Chronicles is brought to you by 'Dave's Dildos' .....' Just plug and play' ;)

**Knocks mac off table** Whoops

Nothing ever went smoothly upgrading an OS or installing multiple cards, even after 95 and a plug'n'play bios.

@drygnfyre

3 жыл бұрын

To this day I still do fresh installs every time an OS update comes out. Especially since nowadays it goes pretty quick, I think it's just good practice.

You almost had to be an electrical engineer to install peripherals back then. Sometimes you even had to play with jumpers on the motherboard and on the peripheral. I don’t miss it one bit.

@oldtwinsna8347

2 жыл бұрын

It was really frustrating. Easily had to spend an entire afternoon or even a whole weekend just to get everything working right. So many wasted days that I remember being so frustrated.

Ahh the Plug and Pray era.

Post check beep nostalgic

How the hell did Windows stay so successful through the time period when the other four major Operating Systems were so much easier... Even Windows 98 was a nightmare when we had to install an Ethernet port on our old Compaq.

@idahofur

4 жыл бұрын

1. Cost. people would get a cheap pc and settle for it. 2. it what most items supported. Yea you could get os/2 but when you add windows 3.1x or 95 to it. AKA to be able to run those programs. Why not just purchase windows 95 and save the os/2 cost. Among other things.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

What other four major operating systems were easier than Windows 95? The Macintosh didn't have a real operating system, and Unix definitely wasn't easier than anything. OS/2 had very specific and demanding hardware requirements and NT had the Windows 3.1 interface for a while, then later lacked things like the Device Manager. Windows stayed so popular because it was the easiest of all of them for consumers.

@oldtwinsna8347

Жыл бұрын

@@McVaio Agreed, and the mac doesn't count since it was proprietary so not like you had a choice about what OS to use with it. OS/2 was the only real viable x86 competitor OS and while it had its moments, it felt like abandonedware even when it was released. I remember Computer City had a whole row of Windows 95 boxes and associated 3rd party enhancement software, while OS/2 occupied an obscure shelf in an out of direct vision sight line, next to the $5 budget titles on clearance.

This was called Plug amd Pray.

So then the hookerbot says, "That's not my expansion slot" and my friend says, "That's not my gold-plated 25-pin connector!

Windows XP was the first version were it worked somewhat.

I hated plug and play. I spent too many hours learning hardware interrupts and port settings etc using jumpers and rom settings. It was all pointless and anyone could plug in a card and it would work. Was a good thing windows was so unstable and it gave me lots of work when their printers weren’t working

6:10 that's CLEARLY Windows 95. How did he get an Advanced copy? Whenever adding new hardware ALWAYS unplug the computer and drain the power first. so you don't fry the card.

@RetroTechIIfx

5 жыл бұрын

Public Beta release. Microsoft had a lot of public betas of Windows 95, even before it was called Windows 95. At one point it was Windows 4.

Did they have starlink back then too? I thing todays starlink is a bit faster!

I love how Stewart said plug and play was meant to make the PC work like… well, a Mac!

@procta2343

10 ай бұрын

well it sort of true now, 30 years later with windows 10

the fake typer at 6:00 looks hillarious, he doesn't make spaces very often :D That reminds me of a gux who did a fake phone call on a landline phone, as a manager was at visit. Unfortunately there was no cord connected to the earpiece.

So Starlink is from HP and from 1994 ;)

No random access?

@tom7601

6 жыл бұрын

danwat1234 Just random crashes... :-)

That music that trys to sound techno 😂

Plug and Pray

How many times do these guys repeat "plug and play"???? At least 1000 times!!

These days plugging in a peripheral is a foreign concept, aside from GPU :)

OMG the scsi drives before Ide

I e been watching a few of these videos and I find it interesting how Apple was light years ahead. Really interesting how they’re not the kings of the business - seems like some lost opportunities. I wonder if they adopted a different model with low cost clones etc where we’d be today. Of course that would make apple a software company - not a hardware company. Anyway, I grew up in this era and I don’t remember talk or apple being this far ahead - it was more about bang for buck on the pc side.

Packard Bell and 3DO 😎

I was and am alway's sceptical about swapping cards into computers,am mean how do you make sure that the computer and os system and software supports it,how does both pc and software know at wich slot you have insert it? How do you make sure that neither of both things are not outdated? That gold minefield machine to extract gold from sand is the best part here.

@McVaio

Жыл бұрын

By reading the system requirements beforehand. And the slot it's installed in doesn't matter.

considering that there were only 3 devices that could be added to the mac it isn't too difficult to automate this

@RetroTechIIfx

5 жыл бұрын

Factually incorrect. Macintosh desktops with Nubus slots (II series) could have video cards, sound cards, disk controllers, pc compatibility cards, network interfaces, video capture cards, DSP's, and scientific instrument interfaces added simply by plugging in the card into any free slot. In Nubus each card has a ROM that interacts with the host system to automatically determine all of the needed parameters. The only step needed to add hardware to a desktop Mac was stick the card in, turn it on, and install the driver. In some cases the driver was built into the cards ROM. Externally you could add any SCSI device; scanners, CD drives, tape drives, ZIP drives, hard disks, etc. In many cases you didn't need any software for these to work. Not every old Mac was a small box with a black and white display. The Mac was not unique with this functionality. Sun Microsystems had the same plug and play architecture in their SPARC workstations. SBus automatically configured card resources making device installation just as easy. IBM had this on the PC with the PS/2 much earlier than the clones. MCA never caught on due to license fees. Cloners were content with the old ISA system with manual IO definition until users were demanding better.

@si4632

9 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

How come this video is tagged as 1994 when some guy is using Windows 95 on it

@drygnfyre

3 жыл бұрын

Win95 had a long beta period. You could run various "Chicago" builds as early as 1993. Many of the late betas looked identical to the final release of 95.

@pankoza2

Жыл бұрын

It's a beta version from 1994

@shankao

Жыл бұрын

Were those available to the public before?

"Easy as a Mac". Yeah, that's because the Mac has a closed architecture with a finite number of models, operating system versions, and hardware options. Plus you paid several times the price of a PC clone. Even with that being the case, it never took me days to install a device. The biggest problem I ever had was trying to get a memory board installed. Come to find out, memory SIMMs had to be installed in pairs and I only bought one. Everything else was pretty easy in the pre-PNP days.