Gary kildall was a genius. Allways focused and pointing in the right direction. Admire.

@cameraman655

4 жыл бұрын

Raul Rojas Yep, then Gates and Co, (you know the guy who will save us from Covid 19), by stealing from and killing him.

@markharrisllb

2 жыл бұрын

Him and Steve Wozniak were two golden carp in a tank full of sharks, though I believe Jeffrey Epstein would have given Gates a good character reference.

@captainkeyboard1007

9 ай бұрын

I hope Gary Kildall is not dead.

@raulrrojas

9 ай бұрын

@@captainkeyboard1007 he is. Sadly, He died several years ago.

@captainkeyboard1007

9 ай бұрын

@@raulrrojas Thank you for this sordid news. This past is as bad as when I missed employment opportunities to enable me to learn to use DOS, Microsoft Windows 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0, plus Wordstar, Supercalc, dbase, earlier versions of Microsoft Excel, PowerPoint, Aldus Pagemaker, Adobe Illustrator, and other programs created in the earlier years. Guess what? I came out much better by using Microsoft Windows XP Professional, and Microsoft Office XP Professional on a new microcomputer I bought myself, than I would working in another men's or women's workplace. I can do better all by myself. Also, thank you for typing to me.

I'll never forget the first time I used a CD-ROM drive in the early 90s, it was amazing. Just could not believe how much was stored on a CD-ROM, despite being read-only. Those of you who didn't live through that era really missed something special.

@y0shiness

6 жыл бұрын

kirk1968, I lived through it and needing memory cards was kinda stupid. 🙄 Revolutionary though.

@neoasura

6 жыл бұрын

y0shiness kirk1968 is talking about CD-ROM technology used in the PC world. Not just for the Sony Playstation, that was a game console.

@8bitnitwit

5 жыл бұрын

Using Microsoft's Encarta in the mid 1990s was amazing at the time, even on a 2x speed CD drive.

@user-ke6zk5xg9m

5 жыл бұрын

I also remember our frustration, after launching a magazine CD-ROM with loads of PC games, when McAfee spotted a virus in one file and prompted us to clear it. Well...how exactly? The CD-ROM disk wasn't writable! Now what??? :-)

@dommidavros2211

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, it was awesome at the time! I should have appreciated it more!

Technology is always much more fascinating when it's in the emerging stage, and you can dream about all the possibilities to come.

@HKragh

4 жыл бұрын

And now it is up to you to recognize what about our current technology is just as "emergent", and profit big on pointing us unwards. Because I assure you, whatever feels "modern" about the present day, will feel just as dated as what we see here, and even outrageously simple in 20 years. We will think: "Man, did we really do it like this", and "Man, had I only thought about this OBVIOUS next step, I would be the one with the billions". Go nuts, dream about all the possibilities. They are there. And some will notice them, while most will not. I guess one of the big things will be how we interface with technology, as we move away from our clumsy "thumbs on screens".

@HKragh

3 жыл бұрын

​@mike h You are completely right in terms of THIS domain of computers; The Von Neumann architecture. While clock speeds has increased, and components has shrunk, the basic idea has stayed the same for 70 years... But I assure you a computer in 500 years won't look anything like what we have today. The Von Neuman method is way too linear and waaay too power hungry. And to get things from processor to RAM, and back takes a relatively long time... Big things has yet to come. And especially AI will change stuff (IS changing), because the linearity of current hardware goes so much against what Neural networks really need.

@captainkeyboard1007

9 ай бұрын

That would be especially when it works right. Otherwise, computer technology would be a hair-pulling experience.

I love how at a time where almost no one in my home country even knew what an audio CD was, these people were already using CD-ROMs.

@rafroessolarpowered81

3 жыл бұрын

Same here in Brazil back then. CDs started to become popular about 7 years later, not really popular because it was very expensive having a player or a CD-ROM Drive at the time. It only started to become mainstream in 1994, 95...

@oldtwinsna8347

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't very much different in the US consumer market. While the hardware existed in the mid 80s, very few owned one until the 1990s rolled in. It was such a niche driven market that there wasn't much desire for ownership after learning of what they cost. Even the folks with cash to burn were more interested in getting a hard drive to install programs to avoid the slow access time of a floppy and the constant swapping.

@fattomandeibu

11 ай бұрын

​@@rafroessolarpowered81 It wasn't until the Playstation that a lot of people here begun using audio CDs. A Playstation console cost less than a CD player as Sony sold them at below production cost to ensure that as many people would buy them as possible, since they got 30% of every game sold they didn't care about the loss on the console. This cause other CD manufacturers to start bringing the cost of their regular players down and started a price war. They did the exact same thing with the Playstation 2 and DVDs and attempted it a third time with Playstation 3 and blurays, but by then people were more interested in streaming.

@maxxdahl6062

9 ай бұрын

@@fattomandeibu That's incorrect. My aunt had a stereo system with built in cd player in 1989, and my first cd player was the sega cd. And we were no where near rich.

@am_pm.17

8 ай бұрын

While CD-ROMs were new in '85, I don't think they were really used much until like 10 years later. Floppy disks were still dominant for a long time.

CD rom was the computer input of my childhood. I never knew life with out it. I can remember my parent's buying the encyclopedia on CD Rom in 1989 when l was four. It helped me with my school book reports. Encyclopedia on CD ROM was a 90's childs Wikipedia.

@johngrave5554

3 жыл бұрын

Encarta encyclopedia was my jam. In the early 2000

@LordHorst

3 жыл бұрын

@@johngrave5554 A friend of mine had Microsoft Encarta on CD-ROM. That was pretty cool to see, especially since they had videos for some of the topics. The first time I understood Special relativity.

The intro in this always tricks me. The high pitch beep at 0:41 has the exact same pitch as the fire alarm in my house.

Gary would have been amazed at flash drives and the modern ssd's and to see that optical media is becoming slowly obsolete, Gary is such a Inventor & tech nerd of the day. I came from the day's of the XT & 286 and up hence why i say Gary would be amazed

@oldtwinsna8347

3 жыл бұрын

Gary and other tech intellectuals understood Moore's law very well and mathematically would comprehend the bits and bytes of modern day technology. What they would have potential amazement over is what we use the storage for these days and how society evolved over computer driven technology in ways that were really not predictable in any accurate way.

I was using CD and then DVD ROMs up until 2007. I still have them, including the PS2 ones.

Reminds me of those old games that asked if they should install all stuff on disk or load some from CD

@700gsteak

4 жыл бұрын

Back when developers respected your storage space. sucks now when you install a 50gb game and half that is cutscenes which you spam click skip anyway. and 5% that is in high def music you mute anyway while youtube is playing in the background and 20% that is 4k textures when you have a 1080p screen. I remmber old big box games givng you the option to skip installing stuff like the music if you didnt want it.

One of these days I’m gonna save up my money and get me one of them microcomputers.

Thank you Japan for all the great inventions!

Laser...disc??? Okay there SpaceMan, I'll stick to my tapes, thank you.

Wel here we are in 2020 and optical storage is still not dead, I would say it still has ap decades to go, maybe not giant mass marcket, but nothing beats 4k bd

Gary thought about the paperless society, we are currently 99% on that stage.

I actually laughed out loud at "...You would have to transmit, nonstop, at "1200 baud" for 46 days."

@Abr3200

10 жыл бұрын

What its a baud?@_@

@Germanswisscheese

10 жыл бұрын

A baud is one symbol per second, which is one bit per second, or a zero or a one per second. Binary computer code is made of ones and zeros, for instance the letter "k" in binary ascii computer code is "100 1011". It contains eight binary symbols, which are called bits, each letter in ascii binary code can be represented with a string of eight ones and zeros, "L" in ascii is: "100 1100". A lower case L or "l" is: "110 1100". A "$" symbol in ascii is: "010 0100". Because ascii encoding was one of the first widely used computer codes and because each letter or symbol in the code was eight bits long, they began referring to each segment of 8 bits as a single byte. So remember, the eight bit code for "K" is: "100 1011" that is one byte. A baud is 1 bit per second. So 1200 baud is 1200 bits per second or 150 letters a second transferred from one computer to another. Or something like 0.143 kilobytes a second or 0.000143 megabytes per second. To put that into perspective, a modern cable Internet connection usually has a speed of 20.0 megabytes per second. It would take 6 hours to download a 2 minute .mp3 on a 1200 baud connection.

@Abr3200

10 жыл бұрын

Woooow Really? 150 letters per secon? OMG just imagine how long ill take to download an entire GB of information. So this thing was before the 28mb/s modems (Sorry for my bad English) This is so amazing. How they could do so much with these limited systems and resources.

@Germanswisscheese

10 жыл бұрын

And that is why I was laughing out loud, it's incredible how far we've gotten in 30 years in computer and data transfer sciences.

@ArumesYT

5 жыл бұрын

@@Abr3200 Even today a lot of information is being transferred as text. Text-based websites like Wikipedia would still be perfectly usable with a 1200 baud modem; it transfers text a LOT faster than you can read it. Same for Whatsapp or any other messaging service. E-mail too. You really don't need high speed connections as much as you think.

Funny how enterprise magnetic tape outlived optical storage

I removed my optical storage drive and replaced it with an SSD caddy the other day after realising I hadn’t used one in about 4 years. However I hammered them for the best part of 20 years. They were an amazing invention and one day we will reminisce about ITb Thunderbolt 3 NVMe drives in the same way…or you young folk will.

@TH3C001

2 жыл бұрын

You can probably include me in "young folk" since I was born in '94, but it's funny, I cannot have a computer without an optical drive. The first computer I built in 2014 with money from a summer job had an optical drive, a CD/DVD burner. My current and second computer built in 2021 also has an optical drive. I still burn CDs for my stereo, or burn drivers to discs for use in other/older computers I own. As a kid playing with the Windows 98 PC my father had CDs were a huge part of the experience, the discs were so satisfying to handle and place in the drive. It feel like the most "computer-y" thing to handle discs and insert or remove them from my computer lol, kinda like handling floppies, or USB drives lol, and its probably a similar sensation fans of vinyl experience when putting an album on their turntable.

@FuManBoobs

2 жыл бұрын

I still watch DVDs but I have been slowly transferring all media to portable hard drives.

i have 8TB of storage at speeds that would blow all these guys minds.....its wild to think this was the cutting edge of tech.

"Write once read mostly." Little Freudian slip there, eh, Gary?

@romanjakhiashvili

3 жыл бұрын

didn't get it

When new tech came out back then, it was like wow. Now it's like oh cool. Can you imagine teens today having to use dialup for the internet? Glad I was a teen and saw the birth of computers ect. Tech has come a long was within the last 40\50yrs. I remember boasting about my new upgrade to a 486 DX4-100 with 4mb ram.

In the late 90s and early 2000s I used to save so much sht into CDs using my cd "burner" used to back up everything! As hard drives were so prone to crashing!

My dad used to program on the Laser Disc when he worked with NASA Ames... 16k dollars to update a cateloge? I never realized how lucky my parents were using CD's in the early 1990's casually.

The Air Force loved the CD ROM. My parents tell me that was the data transfer medium of choice when they were in the military.

Interesting to see how optical media was the future in 1986 while today it is already deprecated, at least in computing. All this while magnetic media is still very much alive in computing, although obviously we are seeing the beginning of it's demise due to flash memory creeping up on it.

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think flash will be replacing tape any time soon. Tape is CHEAP for archival, and still getting cheaper, and requires less effort to preserve it for its effective life, to say nothing of how easy it is to get stuff from old tape to new tape. It's going to be a long time, if ever, before flash replaces tape for archival.

@cube2fox

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesuszamora6949 I'm pretty sure he was talking about hard disks.

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

@@cube2fox Well, tape has never really been an HDD format. I can't imagine the load times. o_O But even that, does flash last as long as even HDD, let alone tape? Durability is the key. I don't think flash replaces HDD until it achieves that level of robustness.

@cube2fox

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesuszamora6949 I don't think he was suggesting that tapes are hard disks. They are obviously not. But hard disks are magnetic like tape. I think you are right in that flash does not have quite as high a durability (in terms of number of write operations) as hard disks, but nonetheless the durability seems to be so high now that it isn't a concern any longer, at least for private customers. Speaking about tape, I think its main advantage is its low price per bit, which makes it well suited for archival purposes. (And even hard disks are much cheaper than flash memory.) Also, if the DVD hadn't been invented, tapes would have been also well suited as video format. Similar to VHS, but digital. In fact there were attempts to introduce such a medium. Its capacity was comparable to Blu-ray discs and as such way ahead of the then common DVDs. Maybe such high capacity was simply not needed back then because Full HD TVs weren't available.

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

@@cube2fox Not sure if I'd go so far as to say flash is durable enough that the average consumer won't care, as it's only been in a price range the consumer can swallow without being super tech-minded recently, and is mostly seen in tandem with an HDD (running the OS and games while data is kept on the HDD). Perhaps by the time it gets as cheap as HDD (which it will, eventually), the durability will also catch up and we'll see them used exclusively. Used to be winchester drives were incredibly sensitive, and look where we are now. And yeah, I saw a Techmoan video about D-Theater. That kinda highlighted tape's only real issue, and why it's consigned to archival nowadays. Loading. Holy hell, that D-Theater player sounded like an IBM 5150 for how loud it was! They were spinning the reels like crazy, I can't imagine how weird it'd be trying to use them in a PC for normal use!

Watching these with modern technology is just so cool, too bad that I'm too young when these were truly amazing new technology.

@jesuszamora6949

3 жыл бұрын

You're seeing it happen with Flash and SSD.

@K3vyB

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesuszamora6949 not even close, they're all unseen mediums with the only difference being speeds, not even sizes (which are actually downgraded compared to traditional platters)

Stuart we miss you ::(

@ComputerChroniclesYT

10 жыл бұрын

Stuart's still around! You can follow him on Twitter @cheifet, he tweets about technology related things quite often.

@therealhardrock

10 жыл бұрын

Gary Kildall is gone though...

@BarfusWOW

9 жыл бұрын

if Gary Kindall was still around (any now overly angry at M$ taking over the world), he would love Blu-rays etc.

@JaredConnell

8 жыл бұрын

+Juggynaut He would be Apple's biggest fan boy since they've started to topple the ms empire lol

@ylette

7 жыл бұрын

He was interviewed by Bryan Lunduke recently.

This is the first time seeing that giant CD and I’m over 50 😂

First CD rom player I owned was in 1993 for a 386 clone. I purchased Rebel Assault along with, at the time the graphics were mind blowing.

Watching it on my apple m1 :)

I'm still waiting for the 1TB optical disc that's been a year away for a decade.

It's amazing to see this because back then CD-RW where great to store huge amounts of data. Nowadays we use DVD-RW which has 4.37GB compared to a CD-RW which could only hold 650-700MB at the time.

@GaioSonase

12 күн бұрын

BD-RE is a thing too, and that's a healthy 100GB

That encyclopedia is much more powerful than Google Search in 2024. It can actually do exact full text search. Something you can't even dream about in modern Google "search".

Ironically, the benefits of optical storage would not begin to be realized by the general John Q. Public until the mid 90s.

@PhoenixNL72-DEGA-

4 жыл бұрын

Think that had more to do with the cost of the devices and publishing companies still having to find a use for all that storage space that the average user would find usefull or entertaining. The killer apps that sold CD-ROM drives were after all games like the 7th Guest and later Myst. And of course fully voiced adventure games like Day of the Tentacle also helped. Basically CD-Rom didn't take of until the average PC's performance level became capable of multimedia playback (Audio&Video)

@oldtwinsna8347

3 жыл бұрын

Took more evolution and refinement over other complementary hardware items. Else, CDROM titles just importing text database stuff, though having some niche in business/education, was pretty boring and stale for the consumer market. Consumers wanted to be dazzled to make the purchase. Sounds cards, for instance, to playback digital samples, took a bit of time to get into the affordably priced market for PCs. Motion video also required some serious horsepower that just was not possible under the original XT or 286 processor. Even the 386 was too slow and only until the 486 came out with its fast integer processor could we get decent stuff done to what we now call multimedia.

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

Because computers were too primitive until mid 90s

See the eyeballs on the caption? I am sure he was watching a 386 running Crysis

I love these episodes from the 80s. It was just a bunch of computer wonks sitting around and talking about the technology, no dumbing it down or anything. Later on in the mid 90s Stewart tries to cover too much in one episode and to dumb it down for a general audience, just hopping around from thing to thing with no depth. Love the in-depth look at optical storage of the day here.

I think my first awareness of cd roms were when the Amiga CD32 was introduced. A few years later I bought a PC with a cd rom drive, with OS/2 preinstalled. But I don’t think I owned a cd rom until I purchased Windows 95.

CDs in that time had 550MB, then in 1992 they had 650MB and today, they have 700MB.

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

Wow what an improvement throughout time

13:02 These are the eyes of someone who searched one too many databases. One who's seen one too many compact discs.

@windowsxseven

5 ай бұрын

One who has one too many dead hookers in his trunk and just now remembered it.

And today I have an external (dual USB) BluRay rewriter drive (50GB) sitting at arm's length. Cost me less than $100 a couple of years ago. Not to mention USB thumb drives at up to 500GB, or USB NVMe at upwards of several TB of flash storage...

Now we have 1TB MicroSD cards, back then they would probably say who needs 1TB of storage, you will never fill it.

While floppies may be dead here in 2024, magnetic media (HDD) is still the king of quick-access storage. The segment about transferring the contents of an optical disc (1200 baud for 48 days) made me laugh. I just had an update to an application that would have taken 90 days at 56k modem speeds. I made this observation to my wife and only got a blank stare in response.

For 1985, this ain't half bad technology, really.

@PrzeszczepiX

5 жыл бұрын

punishedexistence CD-ROM in 1985 was like a technology from NASA. while even in early 90's, many of us in Europe still used 3.5 floppy disks for data storing. the CD-ROM became a real thing in our PC's on 1994/1995. earlier we only had a stereo music players and these were the only things that used CD discs (for audio only) in our houses.

@PrzeszczepiX

5 жыл бұрын

and the reason is simple - back on 80's a very few software was released on CD-ROMs, the optical drives were freaking expensive (costed more than entire computer) and only IBM PC's was able to use it (yes, CD-ROM was only IBM compatible for long time, it became for other platforms like Macintosh, Amiga, Atari etc. in 1992/1993)

@martinkunev

4 жыл бұрын

The video is actually from 1986. Look at 24:54

@oldtwinsna8347

3 жыл бұрын

The best of tech was just unattainable unless you had deep pockets though. Much of its use was also very limited, so you had this hot piece of technology that was maybe 1/3 of your disposable income for the year and yet it had such little impact in your daily life.

Ahhh solid state, the kids just don’t get how easy it is now.

I'm going to start developing a fast CD-ROM Read-Write so people can write their own CD-ROMs at home and do it fast. Can you imagine how that will change the market?

beautiful !!

And 38 years later optical storage devices are obsolete.

Who would have thought that in less than ten years later the CD-ROM ended up storing the Windows 95 operating system. Most of the IBM Clones during the intervening years between this program and the debut of Windows 95 the various competing operating systems trimmed down to just two created by Microsoft, those being MS-DOS and Windows operating systems which are the standard for most non-Apple computers to this very day.

and 40 years later and optical storage has been supplanted by NVRAM.

It's interesting how the concept of the CD-RW was in the works since the inception of the CD-ROM. I don't think that I've seen smaller LaserDiscs than the ones that were the size of regular 33 1/3 RPM records before. Were they only ever used for the early computers?

@mrsvcd

11 ай бұрын

There was a format/rebranding of laser disc called "CD Video" that used smaller, 20cm, disc's. Techmoan has a video on it.

@maxxdahl6062

9 ай бұрын

@@mrsvcd Do you mean video cd? A bit different technology, video cd is more similar to dvd than laserdisc.

The big invention by Philips in the late 60s / early 70s but the computer industry (US) was actually very conservatively late with embracing it (at least lagging behind by 10 years). In the Netherlands with Philips HQ, LaserDisc was already available in 1972 for the high-end consumer... Read-only application at the time for even primitive computing seems very obvious to me..., storage and distribution of big data, e.g. libraries: books, engineering data, law books, technical fiches for complex products, complex manuals, building engineering, compliance validation, etc, etc...

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

No. Computers were too primitive until mid 90s to get advantage of this technology

@allentoyokawa9068

Жыл бұрын

Philips is is garbage, anything being made that was any good was made in JAPAN

@maxxdahl6062

9 ай бұрын

@@ens8502 Computers had been using them since the mid 80's. The drives were just too expensive for most.

10:25 - The world's first recorded Wiki Walk in history folks!

In that time cd got more memory than the harddrive

26:58 Really, Paul? Then what does "dsp sz i nw" mean? Disposition sizzles in northwest?

is the chap 5:00 in from Wales..? 512MB free ! of course , CD audio had only just come out! fantastic exciting times. I was so glad that bug info in fiche was replaced by CD-ROM

@5:53 "It becomes to a point were a single disc can approach the human brain" Lol, they really underestimated the storage capacity and complexity of the human brain in the 80s. 35 years later and we still aren't close.

@jesuszamora6949

3 жыл бұрын

We were more... Optimistic in the 80s.

Is this for sure a 1985 episode? One of the news bits in Random Access is about Apple announcing the Mac has finally beaten the Apple II in sales, for fiscal year Q1 1986. Also there's that NCC 86 thing at the end.

@DigitalM00nlight

4 ай бұрын

Episode aired 5/12/86

@Joshualibbyy

2 ай бұрын

Nope 2024 episode

Revenge of the hard drives!

Reminds me of the NeXT computer, which chose optical over an HD.

Spent a lot of time browsing the encyclopedia britannica on CD ROM lol, i don't think we had the internet at that stage.

Lol at the 'maintenence' on the disc

imagine telling these guys back then that they could have multiple terabytes on a small nvme storage device.

This episode is from 1986, not 1985.

@AureliusR

4 жыл бұрын

Incorrect. This episode was created in late 1985. This particular broadcast was in 1986 -- notice that the date at the front was put there by the broadcasting station, and not by CC.

@martinkunev

4 жыл бұрын

@@AureliusR Incorrect. Look at 24:54

@fordxbgtfalcon

3 жыл бұрын

@@AureliusR Unfortunately you’re incorrect.

*THE ENORMOUS 250MB CAPACITY*

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

250 TB you said???

LaserDisk was available since 1978 I'm curious why there was no laser disk data drives even before CD was introduced?

@workonesabs

4 жыл бұрын

Look at Techmoan s channel. He has done in depth researches into the reason why.

Optical Storage Devices!? That will never take off

@FaridShahidinejad

4 жыл бұрын

That'll never take off is the same damn comment people keep making on these videos. Stop it bro.

@charlesmak534

3 жыл бұрын

@@FaridShahidinejad Calm down.

@FaridShahidinejad

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesmak534 it's been 10 months and I'm still pissed, bro. Damn. Whyyyyyy do people keep making the damn same comment.

@moracomole8090

3 жыл бұрын

Seeing how no new laptops have it you might be right

Does anyone know what GUI the IBM PC is using in that video? An MS-DOS GUI that was only used by Grolier?

@thomase13

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's just running PC DOS, but Grollier itself has a GUI.

I was 4 months old at that time

Did databases on CD's ever take off? What kinda databases would you get on CD? Anyone here ever have any experience with that?

@MichaelJantzen42

2 жыл бұрын

I remember libraries often had magazine indexes available at public workstations.

@oldtwinsna8347

10 ай бұрын

They were mostly pretty expensive stuff so average consumer wasn't the target market. There was quite a bit of things offered to industry segments like parts catalogs, legal resources, and lots of material related to marketing segments. This was all before online access made these obsolete.

3:33 Top of the hour.

OMG Father Guido Sarducci was a computer geek! @16:01

The size of DEC's CD-ROM drive. 😱 16:00

En 1985 computadoras personales como la IBM PS/2 tenian un capacidad de almacenamiento de disco duro de 10 MB. Ese mismo año salian al mercado los CD-ROM con 650 mb de capacidad de almacenamiento, pero no es hasta los primeros años de la decada de los 1990s que los CD-ROM se convierten en el estandard de la industria de los PCs y los discos duros pasan a almacenar Gbytes de memoria

Boy oh boy,

Sorry George, you were wrong! Unlike bubble memory, CD's DID eventually take off and become the standard.

@straightpipediesel

Жыл бұрын

Bubble eventually won. Just a different type of solid state non-volatile memory, i.e. flash, which obviously took off and killed floppies, CDs, DVDs, and now hard drives. His argument about software was spot on, and Bill Gates knew it too. Software is expensive and fundamentally a one-time development cost, and it's a waste of money making 3 versions for the sake of supporting 3 OSes, so whoever gains a majority market share will become unstoppable.

Wait is the demo guy using a wireless mouse in 1985?

7:50 come back in about 10 years.....

Funny how optical media is dying today due to the Internet.

@FusionC6

6 жыл бұрын

Optical was dying 15 years ago. DVD and BLURAY were the only reason why it's kinda sorta still alive today.

@morgorth3242

5 жыл бұрын

@@FusionC6 even usb memory sticks killed cd roms xD

@ens8502

Жыл бұрын

It already died

@oldtwinsna8347

7 ай бұрын

It's more or less dead aside from the entertainment enthusiasts. There simply are a lot of titles produced that are not available in online distribution format. It's actually only a very tiny amount of motion picture produced that is available online. Your average person, however, is only interested in watching top rated stuff which is all online.

According to 24:54 this video is from 1986.

@fordxbgtfalcon

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, even in the videos intro it say 1986, the description is incorrect it seems...

That thumbnail tho.

5:07 is that the anti mullet?

@ian_b

3 жыл бұрын

It's a precursor in the process of evolution into the true anti-mullet, the "Karen".

@17:23 lol and then your mom picks up the phone and you have to start all over.

You mean to tell me I can carry around an entire encyclopedia on an optical disc just 4.7 inch wide? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

i have seen one with 800mb but they are very expensive

Oh imagine if you could go back now and buy shedloads of Microsoft and Apple shares.

Description says 1985 but video intro says 1986?

@Finallybianca

3 жыл бұрын

First aired 1985, this was a later re broadcast tape the first broadcast tape was probably corrupted in some manner sadly magnetic tape doesn’t hold up well over time. Hence why we are missing so many episodes of classic Dr Who.

@fordxbgtfalcon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Finallybianca Definitely makes sense.

In 30 yrs we've gone from punch cards, to tape, to floppies, to cd's, and now cloud storage. What's next ?

@Moskito844

4 жыл бұрын

@Timothy Nickles That's bananas. Nothing last forever.

@jesuszamora6949

3 жыл бұрын

Well, online storage has existed fir ages. I mean, it IS the Internet. What's the exciting bit is flash storage, as it gets larger and more stable.

@oldtwinsna8347

10 ай бұрын

What we call cloud systems today were in concept one of the earliest forms of electronic computing. It actually took a backseat when micro computers came out and personal storage was far more preferred option.

And in 2021 time traveller from 1985 asks where's your fav music albums or your videos and i reply in the Clouds HAHAHA its true

George Morrow literally never gets it right re the future of computing.

@DavePoo2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he go that one totally wrong. He said it would not "fit comfortably" in the environment, and would be too expensive. Fast forward 10 years and operating systems, software, video games & movies would be distributed on optical disk, and CD-ROM drives for the PC were 10x cheaper.

@thedogwooddandy

Жыл бұрын

@@DavePoo2 I really try to keep a cool head when he is speaking throughout this series. I realize his contributions to computer history but he certainly was a pompous doof alot of the time when asked about vision and foresight.

This episode is from 1986

I can't believe it's not a hair piece!

So many storage types of devices,even at the time,pfffff.

It's interesting that not a single guest throughout the run of the show appears to be under 40.

@700gsteak

4 жыл бұрын

Back when pcs were a piece of commerial industrial equipment for big businesses and there was no consumer, prosumer or enthusiast pc market cause it was too expensive

@jesuszamora6949

3 жыл бұрын

Well, you didn't see a lot of this type of stuff until the IBM clones hit. This was the absolute cutting edge. The early adopter is richer, and the economies of scale make it more affordable to the masses.

@oldtwinsna8347

3 жыл бұрын

At this time most of the consumer market execs were by-products of the mainframe era computing of the 60s/70s where they acquired most of their knowledge, influence, and wealth.

8:57 Amyl Nitrite.

The date in the title is a bit of.

When you can have a 200gb microSD memory card, I see optical disappearing, and I know Apple had eliminated the cd-rom drive from their small computers.

@JaredConnell

8 жыл бұрын

Most mobile devices have dropped them. with no moving parts due to the lack of hard drive, DVD drive, and cooling fans battery life goes way up. I bought a laptop about two years ago with no optical drive and the one I bought a few months ago had no moving partfs at all. I've had the battery last almost 8 hours of solid usage, laptops just a few years ago barely got 2-3 hours lol

@guspaz

7 жыл бұрын

Optical media has the advantage of still being much cheaper. Sony's archival disc archives cost around $57 per TB, while a spindle of regular BD-R discs can hit as low as $16 per TB. That's much cheaper than magnetic hard discs, let alone flash storage (which costs roughly 15x as much), and that's just buying a spindle as a consumer. Bulk orders of optical discs can get much cheaper. It's even rumoured that Amazon based their "Glacier" archival storage service on a massive array of BDXL bluray disc libraries, taking advantage of large economies of scale.

@FusionC6

6 жыл бұрын

A lot of data centers still use tape drives for storage.

@700gsteak

4 жыл бұрын

microsd has terrible write cycles. its not replacing optical.

@oldtwinsna8347

7 ай бұрын

Man this post shows its age. Now it's 1tb sd storage for not much over 50 bucks.

Smart Grand PA's

George Morrow is right - this stuff will never take off - now get off my lawn.

I paid $30 for a blu ray drive about 5 years ago.

lol, approaching the human brain 5:50

@jmtrad1906

3 жыл бұрын

Depending what you put in a CD of 700mb, it can have more info than you can ever remember. But yeah, it was just the old man hype.

@dermmerd2644

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmtrad1906 I think in (moving) pictures, I doubt a CD could fit all of it. Especially if you also add in all the info necessary to give context to them like emotions or relevancy to other memories.

I just clicked for the disturbing face thumbnail