"Is there a home computer market" Seems odd to think that question could even be asked lol

"At $999 its Apple's most affordable model ever!" I've heard that many times over the years.

@DeenaMilkers

2 ай бұрын

thanks to inflation, it might be true each time

Man, I just love this show ... The Computer Chronicles Rock!

God I remember DeskMate. Junk. Tandy trash. Ripped me off with a EGA monitor telling me it was VGA. Got home and couldn't run god damned Tank Wars which required VGA. I cried.

@jessihawkins9116

Жыл бұрын

tank wars 😆 who was your favorite opponent? Lob & Shoot, Lobber, Rifleman, Windless Wit, Windmaster, Twanger or Mr. Stupid? 😂

@McVaio

8 ай бұрын

​@@jessihawkins9116 He couldn't play it

@jessihawkins9116

8 ай бұрын

@@McVaio I’m sure he played it eventually 😠

"Is there really a home computer market?" :)

@anonUK

2 жыл бұрын

We estimate a world market for about 5- and 640K ought to be enough for anybody.

No matter how much people wanted to ignore it or considered it a stigma....PC gaming is what caused the home computer market to explode. We carried it into the 21st century.

@Phenom98

5 жыл бұрын

And if you think about it, your fancy new iPhone wouldn't exist without gamers! We fueled the computer industry almost as much as businesses

@BlownMacTruck

4 жыл бұрын

Oh please. Get off your cross.

@chubbycatfish4573

3 жыл бұрын

The Internet, too.

@iAmCodeMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

Video games and porn did it.

@stolte95

2 жыл бұрын

VGA was a much improved graphics card. EGA video, as I see it, was an under powered and overpriced card. For example, it included a 64 color palette, but the medium resolution (160x200 and 320x200), could only produce the CGA 16 color palette. You had to use high resolution (640x200 and 640x350) for any of the 64 colors.

The toys r us computer spot brings back a lot of memories. As a kid in the mid 80s, I remember going into that store and just being amazed at the commodore 64 and amiga computers. We had an 8088 pc at home but it was cga and just felt old compared to the commodore and amigas. It's like I can almost smell the buttered popcorn that they had at our local toys r us. It was so magical to a 10 year old kid in 1985. I would stand in front of the action figure aisle and just dream of taking home He-Man and Battle-Cat. Takes me back.

Did she just say that apple computer was $3,769.00, no wonder we couldn’t afford a computer in the 90s. Me and my brother stuck with the Commodore 64 until the late 90s.

@MattExzy

Жыл бұрын

We had an LC II in '94 as a kid. First ever home computer. It was relatively 'cheap', but somewhat useless as the internet appeared - a 16MHz '030, a chip launched seven years prior. Although it was a 'low cost' machine it's amazing to think it was sold as something new. But the 90s generally sucked in general as a time for buying a computer, anything one or two years old was already hideously outdated despite high cost.

@gregorymalchuk272

Жыл бұрын

@@MattExzy Did you guys manage to connect the LC II to the internet? Was it through dial up or Ethernet? What browser were you using?

Ground breaking and educational series that offered tech knowledge and awareness before the internet.

@Nunavuter1

Жыл бұрын

I watched. The show didn't always predict the bigger trends (who could?), but CC was always informative.

The Magnavox Headstart 500CD was the first new computer I bought. Wooff it was about 3000 bucks with the monitor and speakers and math Co pro and memory upgrade. I had to mow so many lawns and fix a lot of computers to afford it. It had so many cool games that came with it, Lotta good memories!

I still have a working Commodore *64 😊

As a technology fan and end user, this story fits right up my niche. I hope that The Computer Chronicles is alive and working.

Aw, just been googling Seymour, turns out he died in 2010. The CC curse? Great series. Wish we'd had something like this in the UK during the 80s/90s.

@Minalkra

4 ай бұрын

Ya guys had Tomorrow's World, which had a broader scope - to it's credit, IMO.

Imagine, if you will, a guest on the show that Stewart doesn’t feel the overwhelming urge to cut short, and talk over, time and time again. That guest, simply does not exist.

That store only sold 5 Commodores a month 😂

@DavePoo2

Жыл бұрын

Still pretty amazing considering it's 8 years old at that point. If 2000 outlets were doing that then it was still selling 10,000 per month just in the US

Another thing is America was hit with a recession in 1990-1992. People were laid off and we just didn't go out and buy a Windows (and definitely a Macintosh) computer. 1993 was the year when home PC purchases took off.

@oldtwinsna8347

Ай бұрын

To me it wasn't until the 486DX2-66 had not just rolled out but was in the prime market spot, that was 1993. The dx2-66 had a lot of power and could do amazing things in windowed type environments, plus was a requirement for Doom in its full glory.

LOL Frankie Muniz

DRAM was very expensive in those days. And the reason why is that the Japanese had control of the DRAM chip market and was flooding them for peanuts. So in order for American chip companies to take back the market, which was impossible, the Reagan Administration put out a No Dumping Policy. This made DRAM chip prices to rise quickly, and none of the American chip companies had plans on producing them due to the expense on production and planning. A 386 machine with 2 MB of ram and VGA graphics with Windows 3.0 would cost $2,000+. Way too much for the average home user to afford.

"LOW COST Home Computers from APPLE" LOL

@jesuszamora6949

8 жыл бұрын

Apple doesn't know how not to rip off consumers. Their computers have always been ludicrously priced for what you get.

@s.t.phoenix

6 жыл бұрын

In comparison to some of the others, those were low cost. The IIfx from the previous year was almost $10,000...

@BlownMacTruck

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus Zamora If you can point out where else you can get a supported copy of MacOS I’m listening.

@rooneye

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlownMacTruck MacOS is awesome. I hate that I have to use Windows 10 on my gaming machine. I much prefer MacOS it's just so much nicer and sleeker and designed better aesthetically. Started out on PC's in 1999 with Windows 98 and have used all Windows since, but I got a Mac in 2008 and fell in love with the OS. Specially back then in 2008 with Snow Leopard is was just sexy af compared to windows at the time. Based on Unix too ofc. so you get a really nice terminal

@lucius1976

3 жыл бұрын

@@rooneye I switched from MacOS to Linux Mint because i found the interface not very intuitive. I guess i am somewhat too attached to the old Windows XP interface

Nowadays office computers are slower than your home pcs

Prodigy, that was my first internet access.

I bought an Atari 800XL back in the early 1980s which was the chief rival of the Commodore 64 back at the time. Later on during the mid 1990s I bought a Pentium MMX Windows 95 PC for greater graphics and sounds as well as a lot more capabilities.

In the '90s I would go to a Goodwill Surplus Store and find Macs and PCs for $5.

Back in the early 80’s i bought myvfirst computer to write magazine articles. Used WordStar on a CP/M machine. Still write articles today with my PC. Only difference is that I now use Microsoft Word or Apple Pages.

Dam, look at the size of those CRTs. 🤪😄

@jessihawkins9116

Жыл бұрын

yeah people were stupid back then 😂

The software program to show you how to use a keyboard and mouse, that requires you already know to do so to use it in the first place!

The thumbnail of this shows the photo & his name at the bottom of "TIM WHITE". For a split second, I thought it said "I'M WHITE". Which makes sense lmao. Chronicles was a show I regularly watched back in the day & I remember this episode on TV.

Today, Apple computers are dedicated to design and creative art; while the Windows computers are dedicated to business productivity applications that are all left out of the digital software market.

Wow...look at all the home computer computations!

Does anybody remember when programs on magazines were written out on the page so that readers could type them into their own PC?

Commodore Amiga!!!

Apple saying "we don't think that one size fits all"

I love this show, but it always seems like Stewart is rushing the guests...I know they are on a time constraint..but still.

The Macintosh II came out in 1987 and makes that IBM PS/1 that came out 3 years later look like a dinosaur.

Totally ridiculous how the Amiga was never even mentioned! 1990 was a rocking period for the A500/2000. Made the PC and Mac graphics look as primitive as did the C64 they quote in this segment.

@metafis2490

7 жыл бұрын

Yes...its only in retrospect that The Amiga is seen to be the great system it was. Back then it was regarded as a toy by 'serious users". However, the Amiga 3000 was the subject of another episode that year(1990)

@feamatar

7 жыл бұрын

are you from the US or UK? Amiga is not mentioned because the A500 was never as popular as in the UK, and PAL games had issues on NTSC machines, so in US home computing meant the tandy 1000 instead of the amiga in the late 80s...

@Phenom98

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. But the progress of the 1990s never ceases to amaze me even though I was born in 98. Just 3 or 4 years later, Pentium-based PCs with Windows and later 3DFX cards blew all competition away and Amiga took a nosedive faster than a meteorite.

@ArumesYT

5 жыл бұрын

There were Macs with 24-bit color already. And the PC had VGA. Not exactly the primitive graphics you seem to remember...

@jetfrog4574

2 жыл бұрын

Amiga graphics were actually pretty underwhelming in 1990. The Mac had 24 bit true color and flicker free higher resolutions than it for years at that point. VGA offered greater color depth on the PC side as well. Though it really depended on what you might want do the Amiga was arguably still a better choice for animation work compared to Mac or PC but that's about it.

Radio Shack Eastfield Mall(former), Springfield, MA

12:50 Once the dark shades and hat are on... this guy becomes Andrew Eldritch, Sisters Of Mercy

That feeling when you hear PS1 and immediately think they are talking about the PS1 in 1990. Oof.

You can send it to a tape!

18:13 Did he say 20MB hard drive?? System $1698 yikes!! Programs and files must not have taken up a lot of space then. I wasn't as into computers back then but looking at where they are now it's hard to believe those specs were optimal.

@danielOconahap

8 жыл бұрын

+Ken Gevon imagine 20 years from now.. we'll probably say "2tb drives? that would barely fit any of my games!"

@LoneTaurus82

8 жыл бұрын

+Light 1988 irk haha..at the rate technology is progressing now I wouldn't doubt it. SSDs are quickly becoming the new wave now though and blow HDDs away as far as speed although you pay a lot more for the storage but they are quickly starting to come down in price now.

@danielOconahap

8 жыл бұрын

Ken Gevon and looking at these vids, lowering of prices makes them available to the wider market, and consumers is what pushes the market. so, a few years from now we'll have 500gb SSDS for $bucks as standard :D

@0525ohhwell

4 жыл бұрын

In 1990 we got a brand new 386sx 33 and it had a massive 120 MB HDD which we partitioned into 3 40 MB sections cause ... No one would ever need more than 40 MB.

@stolte95

2 жыл бұрын

DRAM was very expensive in those days. And the reason why is that the Japanese had control of the market and was flooding DRAM chips for peanuts. So in order for American chip companies to take back the market, which was impossible, the Reagan Administration put out a No Dumping Policy. This made DRAM chip prices to rise quickly, and none of the American chip companies had plans on producing them due to the expense on production and planning. A 386 machine with 2 MB of ram and VGA graphics with Windows 3.0 would cost $2,000+.

_Magnavox?_ I didn't know they made a PC in 1990.

@jessihawkins9116

Жыл бұрын

you never heard of headstart or magnavox professional monitors?

@infinitecanadian

Жыл бұрын

@@jessihawkins9116 No, I haven't.

@jessihawkins9116

Жыл бұрын

@@infinitecanadian millennial 😒

Wow in 2033 we will receive faxes that is surprising

TV was worth watching at some point. it's so garbage now

Did.... Did he pronounce debacle as "debbickle"?

apple continues to produce value packed low cost consumer iphones

His eyebrow is epic

If anyone paid money for a C64 in 1990 contact me..I have some swamp land wit ha bridge to sell you.

@Phenom98

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao. Well, they stopped selling C64s in '88 so it wasn't that old. Plus, the games were still decent, abundant and cheap. You gotta remember that not even the SNES was out yet in 1990

The same curse we're all afflicted with unfortunately.

Sears, Toys r us - I guess they will always be around? (sarcasm)

she said elsie. wonder if she was a mac user then?

No no no.....they wanted computers for gaming....not fiddling about with data bases.

Yeah C64 is sooooo user friendly omg it's friendly!

@Phenom98

5 жыл бұрын

That's why the Macintosh revolutionized the PC market. It wasn't priced cheaply and it was still monochromatic, but that Graphic OS and the mouse made it easy for the normies lol

Besides Apple, all these "GUIs" sucked. Even IBM's was terrible. Maybe this was filmed before Windows 3.0 came out? Or was Win3.0 too pricey for home users?

Man, selling a massive 5 a month, no wonder Commodore is where it is today!

Apple was the greatest. Nowadays they're just a bunch of moneygrabbers imho.

@jessihawkins9116

Жыл бұрын

i still use system 6 and 7 for some stuff today buy no modern mac stuff

Apple has always price gouged. Some things never changed.

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