Inside the Pro-Palestinian protests disrupting Columbia University: www.wsj.com/us-news/education/pro-palestinian-protest-new-york-city-universities-71c4c93e?st=ohb2ykd0nqo6xd6&mod=googlenewsfeed

@AMPProf

21 күн бұрын

SLOW OLD NEWS btw

@jamesnmcmanus

15 күн бұрын

“Pro-Palestinian protests” is an illogical misnomer. Protests are against things, and these people are protesting Israel. They are anti-Israeli protests.

@ayesha6498

14 күн бұрын

i think whats really "disrupting" to students all over the world is that there are NO universities left in gaza. all turned to rubble.

I mean most large schools are mainly just hedge funds with a nice little education business on the side

@nachiketpatil9338

21 күн бұрын

Actually they are more like expensive social clubs. You pay for the prestige and connections. If all you want is cheap education study in community college and go to graduate school at decent school.

@pan2aja

20 күн бұрын

US government is hedge fund with governance on the side

@treyshaffer

14 күн бұрын

@@nachiketpatil9338 That doesn't make much sense though. You can't get into a good graduate school if you don't go to a good undergraduate program with tons of resources. Although, this may very a lot from program to program.

@piggynatorcool668

14 күн бұрын

​@@nachiketpatil9338​the point is higher Ed is to give normal students a shot at being exceptional. Wealth doesn't belong behind those doors since people who are wealthy are already exceptional. It's a school, meant to teach but now it's mostly an edifice for old money and what's already been taught.

@Mystiverv

13 күн бұрын

@@piggynatorcool668i saw that talk too but the point of higher ed has never been to make normal people exceptional. Its roots are in wealthy familes sending their children to be educated before going on to do whatever it is their family does whether that be continue a family business or rule a country

I'd really like to see an equally deep dive into school _costs._ How much do schools spend on teachers, administrators, facilities staffing, real estate, materials, etc.

@alicetheegreet

8 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@jvssocialmedia2459

Күн бұрын

Worked for one. Disgusting how bloated and top heavy they are. Plus the additional of useless chairs/programs of studies drives up costs more. Courses and specialties can be offered without adding so many extra top heavy jobs. Too much compensation for top administrators, too.

Northwestern is so wealthy, hardly depends on tuition, and yet continues to charge crazy tuition and spend only a small % of those billions on the students and faculty

@jpm5205

17 күн бұрын

Smart way to run a university for the long run.

@dzcav3

17 күн бұрын

DEI costs a lot of money.

@smallfgb

17 күн бұрын

Funny to hear he doesn’t need a 25 million dollar donation either. I’ll bet the whole department he had there asking for donations begs to differ. Few give large in the modern era without strings to the money.

@tymarley1441

16 күн бұрын

The tuition is really only high for those who come from wealthy families. As someone who is middle-class and was accepted into Northwestern this year, I can say there financial aid is probably the best out there. Other private schools I was accepted into this year -USC, Duke, etc.- had much higher tuition prices.

@naphvictor9797

14 күн бұрын

@@dzcav3literally, to many breaks to legacies and white women

It's funny how only 16% of students paying full tuition in 2020 vs 29% in 1996 is framed as being a positive outcome, when it's obviously due to the fact that more people could actually afford tuition in 1996. Accounting for inflation Northwestern tuition went up roughly 70% in that time--are college students learning 70% more? I don't think so.

@marshall3278

21 күн бұрын

It's actually just a big deception where they jack-up the price and then offer the vast majority of their acceptances "scholarships." It's kind of like how you go to Guitar Center and all the guitars are on sale 365 days a year.

@bobthemagicmoose

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, it’s just price discrimination. It hurts me so much to see “universities” advertise about the scholarships you’ll get there. They’re copying the Kohls pricing model where sticker price means nothing. I think it does help the students get access to greater student loans… though that’s a pretty bad thing too…

@Dave05J

21 күн бұрын

1996 students didn't have access to the tools that are available today. That too counts.

@_orodrigofernandes

20 күн бұрын

​@@Dave05Jwhat tools? If you mean state-of-the-art, I'm pretty sure they got what 1996 had to offer.

@pan2aja

20 күн бұрын

It is a legacy media. Lying is their norm

The statement about the percentage of students paying the full endowment in the 90s versus now is really misleading as it doesn't take the increase in the tuition cost increase corrected for inflation. People are paying more than they ever have for college, even now

6:53-54...some Georgia state treasurer, I forget who, outright said on record, "out of state kids keep our state schools' lights on"

@bobthemagicmoose

21 күн бұрын

Especially international students that all pay full price.

To bad you did not have the courage to discuss the ballooning price of excess administration. Cut the administration by eighty percent, getting it back to historic norms, and solve the tuition problem instantly.

3:43 drive by slap in the face

Wild keeping the country broke and uneducated is wild

@danielguardiola3698

21 күн бұрын

I think done purposefully to separate the rich and the poor. If you go in there with resources the skies the limit.

@machinmon.

21 күн бұрын

Wyld

@TheAussiePencil

21 күн бұрын

If these students are what "educated" people look like, then the money is better spent elsewhere. I say this as a biomedical researcher

Medical centers plus grants and contracts is almost 1/2 of the UC system revenue! In other words, almost 1/2 of the revenues comes from graduate programs. Yet this piece only analyzes endowments and tuition. Zooming into this part of the academic industry might be a good follow-up piece?

@ipsilonia

21 күн бұрын

agreed

@docsays

19 күн бұрын

Yup as faculty we are constantly going after grants or funded research.

Good topic, many information, thank you WSJ.

Finally someone tries to help people understand tuition is just a piece of the puzzle.

Since when university is about money not education?

@ladhkay

21 күн бұрын

Since always? Education is a business smh

@paani3327

21 күн бұрын

@@ladhkay but it shouldn't be

@TommyMac

21 күн бұрын

Since they have to pay bills, pay employees and pay expenses.

@J.o.s.h.u.a.

21 күн бұрын

Since we live in capitalism

@x-men69-96

21 күн бұрын

@@TommyMac yeah, still makes billions of dollars in profit? Look up Harvard

I think you guys missed talking about the lack of expansion of freshman seats in colleges.

@kurtphilly

21 күн бұрын

You should expand on that. It is really on relevant at the best or top ranked schools in the country. Overall college attendance is shrinking due to demographics, cost and high starting potential salaries in trade jobs.

They forgot to mention all the frivolous lawsuits they payout each year! I worked in HR dept for a large public college & in any given moment we had 10-20 active lawsuits. The legal would always payout to avoid going to court.

@Jordan-slmo

18 күн бұрын

What were the nature of these lawsuits if I may ask?

@docsays

18 күн бұрын

@@Jordan-slmo - mostly wrongful termination of employment by employees. Usual related to non-renewal of contracts.

@pastramionrye247

14 күн бұрын

@@docsays Interesting. Because that adds another layer of cost -- retention of underperforming or even grossly incompetent faculty (particularly those with tenure) to avoid the threat of a lawsuit. Many universities have some faculty who are no longer research active and get abysmal teaching evaluations, but they keep being assigned classes to teach each semester. (In fairness, this is usually a tiny percentage of the overall faculty, but they increase the workload for the actually productive faculty and diminish the overall student experience.)

looking at state funding as a % of total funding paints an incorrect picture since it's impossible to know how much state funding increased or decreased and that relationship with inflation. could be that the total pie increased due to more tuition intake or larger endowments

go to community college. this is CRAZY $$$$ DO NOT SPEND MONEY YOU DO NOT HAVE YOU WILL END UP IN DEBT FOREVER.

The WSJ does such an amazing job at demonstrating their POV… Bravo! 🙌

Wells college in the Finger Lakes of NY just announced today after 156 year that it will be closing.

Seen from Europe, where the University budgets are almost never above 8 figures , one can't help but think that the US universities offer a pretty poor ratio of academic production per dollar spent. I mean, the the academic level isn't superior to that in Europe, and both what the colleges pay per student and what the students pay per year is far superior (multiples!) from what's spent in Europe. In a way it's similar to the Health system spend per Patient...

Interesting perspective on university funding! 🎓

Is there a similar video about the expense side? Why has it got so expensive?

4:05 That is Holmes High School in San Antonio, not a college 😭😭😭

Complicated issue

Very insightful

5:17 - undergraduate "experience": meaning useless stuff like on campus ski resorts. The whole point of a university is you get an education. So I won't say tuition helping the undergraduate "experience" is a good thing.

4:30 is why you still see state universities offering in-state tuition to out of state students.

Morty (president in this video) was truly a class act - out on campus, tons of face time with students at all levels. He’d show up to dorms and just chat at scheduled times. Proud to see him speak on this topic.

Superb report.

Meanwhile, I paid 120€ per year in Aalto University in Finland. And for that price, I also received private healthcare which didn't cost much (e.g. my wisdom tooth removal was 40€). Oh and I received 1500€ from the university for taking an exchange semester. And the student union gave me another 2000€.

@contact594

17 күн бұрын

Scandinavian models are the best in the world, mixing socialism and capitalism, I can't understand why other democracies don't emulate your systems.

@aanandax

Күн бұрын

I wish it was the same for international students. I would love to study in Europe but the tuition is tooo much unless you’ve got absolutely amazing grades (sadly mine is in the 80s) and get into a public university, that too has only 15-20% seats for international students.

The actual education and usefulness you get out of college is pretty minimal. What you get out of it is brand name, and can put it down on your resume that you graduated from a prestigious university.

@shahidakhanam3449

19 күн бұрын

Even then a job is not guaranteed

@geordi-gabrielrenauddumoul449

18 күн бұрын

Bro ...

Where is the money from patents and papers? Here in Ireland, it's mostly part state and part funded by postgrad output as well as the smaller €2500 per student.

@bobthemagicmoose

21 күн бұрын

Parents can’t be that much money except maybe for a school with a lot of biomedical activity.

@Eoin-B

21 күн бұрын

@@bobthemagicmoose But that's why so most research post-grads are free here. It's a huge part of our university funding even if it's probably wrong. The state's contribution to university funding is proportional to how much money it makes through patients and papers with postgraduates. Our very old Universities (about half of them) owned a ton of land and property in the city they're based in since the 17 & 1800s so they also have a lot of rental income but that's it.

@pan2aja

20 күн бұрын

That is why Ireland is NOT economic super power. They didn't squeeze every dime from their citizen and future offspring

@WillieFungo

18 күн бұрын

The U.S. is not Ireland?

*Nice vid*

Interested in knowing how the funds get spent.

Notice Hamilton College, based on tuition revenues, has no graduate school. These graduate schools, like at Harvard, get big research grants.

Havaerford college ❤❤❤❤

I got my ged in jail in 2003, 2016 I sobered up and now I'm a journeyman electrician and I make 120k a year in seattle. Not bad.

@Defy_Convention

21 күн бұрын

Congrats on choosing to better yourself and your successful outcome.

@electricaltimelapsetest5713

21 күн бұрын

@@Defy_Convention ❤

@geordi-gabrielrenauddumoul449

18 күн бұрын

How many hours are you working ?

@WillieFungo

18 күн бұрын

This is a great example of why America is the best country. You make more than most of the highest skilled workers in Europe.

@electricaltimelapsetest5713

17 күн бұрын

@@WillieFungo seriously. A homeless heroin addict like me can turn his life around. First I stopped drugs, went to aa meetings, got a dishwasher job, then was a helper doing construction, then got residential electrical apprentice job, then switch to commercial electrical work, then did my 8000 hours and pass my journeyman test. Then get married and buy a home.

The higher education system needs to contract and should be forced to face market forces. There are too many colleges and universities producing too many unviable degrees.

Geez. What was happening in 2001 that the UC system was getting so much money from the Department of Energy?

@RichardAmesMusic

21 күн бұрын

The nuke labs were part of the UC system.

@ipsilonia

21 күн бұрын

^ that’s true

@adamheuer8502

19 күн бұрын

Probably nuclear weapon counter proliferation research ordered by Bush. The department of energy is the agency in charge of investigating countries secretly building nuclear bombs

@snipinmonsta

18 күн бұрын

I think it was a nuclear power plant research project but I could be wrong. Chicago and Berkley both get a lot of money as research universities for nuclear programs

@hcallahan1963

16 сағат бұрын

It was the Human Genome Project, actually. Weirdly, it was within the DOE rather than other more typical agencies (NSF, NIH)

So many of these schools took covid funds. And didn't filter it to students or lower tuitions whole having zoom courses.

As someone who has spent a decade or more outside the USA, the USA funding system and universities themselves are ridiculous. Bang for your buck, the USA stands last in education and healthcare.

@angelm3670

21 күн бұрын

u dont know what ur talking about 95 of the world most prestigious universities are in the US

It seems to me that many classes could be taken online inexpensively. As long as students show up in person for testing, I don't see a problem.

Universities should become publicly listed corporations and enter the stock market through IPO and let's see what happens to their balance sheets if they are forced to face market forces.

The United States is losing its edge on education and research, mean while Tsinghua University and USTC have climbed the ranks of universities with more papers on Nature. An empire founded in innovation is in decline when it’s people can’t be educated

@WillieFungo

18 күн бұрын

Foreign students will always prefer to come to America or even Canada if they can afford it.

There’s atrocities happening all over the world each day. Not saying Oct. 7 isn’t also horrific, but the US and US institutions (such as UCLA and other colleges) have a financial interest in Israel unlike the other atrocities happening around the globe. They’ll sooner eat their own hands than sever that relationship. Such is capitalism.

Those colleges with big endowments say it helps keep tuition low have some of the highest tuition rates.

Thinning of the middle class, growing wealth of top 1% via centralization in the hands of the few, growing wealth inequality renders a society one wouldn't want to live in.

2:12 😅

Imagine paying like 60k a year for school and then you see our tax dollars going to israel where they have free college and free healthcare.

and when you are an international student the costs are just like... yeah......

If I was Harvard and had an account with Citadel I would have pulled my money out. Watch them change their tune

Weird that you changed the title so quick

@0741921

21 күн бұрын

What was it before

@njpme

21 күн бұрын

From what?

@jimmaag4274

21 күн бұрын

I forget the exact syntax, "Why Colleges Don't Fear Their Large Doners on the Palestine Protests" is what I remembered, a few minutes later when I came back to watch it was changed.

@Arcwol

20 күн бұрын

@@jimmaag4274 Noticed that too.

@mawesomenessg1

17 күн бұрын

They probably dont want to get shadow banned

One nit: greater diversity of student tuition payments just means they can squeeze the rich more for tuition (price discrimination). It doesn’t mean “more poor people are coming”.

well that money u send to isral is enough for all the universities

I'm sure this is more complicated than what I understand, but it seems that colleges have no reason to drastically spend down their massive endowments if students/parents are willing to pay the raised tuition. And students/parents are often willing to pay them because student loans are easy.

Should make a video on how lobbying works in United States. How so many politicians are funded by AIPAC.

Love Morty ❤

Formerly prestigious universities.

One issue I rarely see addressed is public universities that get vast amounts of federal government dollars refusing admission to Americans while admitting foreigners. I have no issue educating foreigners in our taxpayer-funded public universities but not when they're being admitted in place of extremely qualified American students. I never realized this was an issue until my son and his friends got rejected by pretty much every major public university outside our home state despite them all having about the best credentials you can hope to have - 1500+ SAT, 35+ ACT, 4s and 5s on a dozen AP exams, community leadership with demonstrated effect, nationally competitive in sports, music, drama, etc. Kids with these credentials were almost universally rejected by public universities outside our home state. At best a few got waitlisted. Public universities literally across the United States told these kids they aren't college material, telling them all that they consider "holistic" approaches to admissions. Well, whose definition of "holistic" includes them? None of the admissions offices answered that question. I'm still in disbelief at this outcome, and I'm not alone.

Incredible that he finishes saying that the universities should be private AND talking about inequality haha

The sooner the people realize that college education is a means to funnel young minds into dead end jobs and life long servitude the better the society would be.

Wealth and greed seem to be synonymous when it comes to colleges. One must wonder why, with the huge tuition increases, they any need money at all.

Universities are literally in the business of banking and hedge funding. Education is an extra-curricular activity for recruitment and workforce data-sourcing.

@jebbrown5961

15 күн бұрын

Non profits w no shareholders or owners. How do the schools “make money” and what would that even mean? When money comes in, it goes towards covering operating costs, salaries, infrastructure, tuition etc. Endowment is just a structured subsidy that most students receive.

The fact that a former university president talks about endowment growth without talking about the student loan crisis is SHOCKING and shameful. This is the largest transfer of funds from public coffers to private pockets in history.

The panel is exactly right.

@ghibtyphoid

21 күн бұрын

I’m sure bill ackman will come running to you after your generous support, sir

Like asking a tobacco company if cigarettes are good for you

So glad I paid 200 euros for mine in France 😊

Too many students graduate from top universities with crushing debt but without a marketable degree. It’s reassuring to know that these universities are financially prudent. Unfortunately, they often fail to help impulsive 18-year-olds understand that university is not merely a four-year journey of self-discovery; it’s an investment in their future. As the saying goes, ‘If the business model isn’t broken, don’t fix it'

As a person or company, you need to have a clean income so that you can stand up for what is right.

Who would pay 72k for one year of tuition

Ken Griffin didn’t withdraw his support because of Israeli support instead the lack of it. Which is exactly the opposite reason stated by the reporter.😅

Someone explain to me why these places are called “colleges” when literally every one of them has “university in the name”. Same weirdness that created 4th of July instead of July 4th and calling a sport played with your hands football?

@jm9371

20 күн бұрын

Clearly you have absolutely no insight into North American traditions and naming schemes. BTW, most people refer to the sport as Soccer to eliminate ambiguity. American Football is very much a big thing and the NFL generates many times more revenue than FIFA could ever dream of.. just saying.

@WillieFungo

18 күн бұрын

First, explain to me why Europeans are so obsessed with America? Focus on your own continent. What we do here is not your problem.

@jakevendrotti1496

16 күн бұрын

Friend, a simple dictionary search of the difference between college and university may be helpful here

I graduated college 11 years ago and I simply can't say earning a bachelor degree improve my chances for better employment. I just feel that college is a scam and it is not worth it unless you want to be engenier, doctor or lawyer. But most major that school offer are kind of worthless. I think is better going to community college or learning a skill there is more work opportunity.

Lucky enough to goto UC Berkeley in 90's where I paid 10k/yr for 2 years as out of state. Got a lot of tuition support for all 4.5 years. No, don't privatize it. One of the reason I went there was because of the cost. One of the few public schools that can stand up to any top X schools in the world. Other would be UCLA: Univ Cal of Lower Achievers :) Oh, if top U like UCB & Columbia r protesting this hard, then u would be a fool to dismiss them. R u listening Nutanyahoo?

“This idea that admin say oh my god I’m going to change my strategic vision bc I’m worry about a $25M gift when you have $50Bn in the bank is ludicrous” -> *proceeds to go right into how pertinent large endowments are to universities*

"greatest education system in the world" delusional

God loves you and hasn’t forgotten about you. Please remember that.

Maybe paid tuition of the low wage students from poor and middle class families 😊

The education system in the USA is so broken!

Debt

Чисто кайфовые завозы) все как я люблю. Почаще делай такие видоски бро🥽

Good, now we know why they don't let students speak

Beg the federal government for money it usually works

Maybe we should boycott the businesses that these billionaire donors make their money from

Oh, you mean Qatar.

Nice❤. Government has no money for funding 💰 the school 🎒 but they got plenty when it is about military aid🪖 to foreign nations. So, is that protecting American interest or political interests??🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤔 We all know war 💥 gives you political support, but education gives you the reason to ask questions.

👍

universities should enter stock market, very profitable education business

@samyzy

21 күн бұрын

some universities in asia are publicly traded

This guy is a Sith Lord. Look into it.

Here in New Mexico have pay after graduation high class don't I know see the difference.

It's more convenient to study in Europe: for that amount of money send your students oversea.

40k USD a year to pay for education? What do they teach there? 😂😂😂

Low income College

the UCs also have endowments, but this video didn’t show that for some weird reason. this is why students are protesting that the UC regents divest from companies that profit from the illegal and inhumane occupation of palestine. also a significant portion of UC revenue comes from grants and contracts, which are brought in by grad students and postdocs. this was a big reason why UC grad students unionized and went on strike in 2022.

I respect billionaires who support public schools. Period.

"The greatest higher education system in the history of the world " AHAHAH what a joke

Calling them “Pro-Palestinian protests” at the beginning means the video is not worth watching.

Thank you Lord Jesus for the gift of life and blessings to me and my family $140K weekly profit Our lord Jesus have lifted up my Life!!! A. V

US tax money should build public colleges & universities for American kids so they don’t end up food servers.