5:44 that should say 21's attack lol, lack of sleep back at it again. Sorry about the later than usual guide, turns out if life gets busy and you try to bomb rush a video with minimal sleep, you get sick and still gotta make the video… Also doesn’t help that I had a lot to talk about with 21 as well. I’ve been planning / dreading this guide all year, so hopefully my yapping mostly makes sense lol. Thanks for watching everyone. Also, might be streaming wuthering waves, prob the day after it drops (23rd) all weekend. My socials: twitter.com/Sp1dre / dsc.gg/spider2b / twitch.tv/spider_2b Btw for the cottie rotation, for those wondering, *technically* you can ult twice in 1 rotation without deadline on 21 but after the first double ult, you may be off a 3 orb ping, so you’ll need to matrix an attack to continue the rotation, i opted to keep it out of the video to keep it simpler.

@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837

2 ай бұрын

does S 21 beat SSS+ liv lux?

@Spider2B

2 ай бұрын

@@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837 yes

@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837

2 ай бұрын

​@@Spider2Bthat's crazy

@_Rite

2 ай бұрын

Is it the same rotation with 3S Feral, 3S CW, 2S Garnet?

@Ssilhouette73

2 ай бұрын

I have sent you an email can you check it? Its some PGR related stuff. I wanted to keep things professional so I emailed it. Of course it up to you if you can spare some time to read it. Anyways great guide. Cheer man!

Thank God for tutorials in and out of game, it's really intuitive when you have it in your hands but I swear character moveset descriptions get more insane with each patch.

@Spider2B

2 ай бұрын

tell me about it

@noox13

2 ай бұрын

Fr! Use in game tutorial to feel out a characters gameplay but I sure ain't reading massive walls of kit description. So I watch the guides for optimal rotations and a proper understanding of how the characters work.

@ebtyx

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, especially descriptions CW is insane. But i think it's good, because characters have more and more skills, and i agree learn all of this, if it means i will have a diverse and deep character in play.

@VasterLordUlquiorra

2 ай бұрын

I've only been playing for 2 weeks. Level 75. faith 21 is normal. Vera rosa lucy starter. they are so clear and simple. but when I tried the trial new lucia, I was terrified, even with the leadership, it's hard to remember how to attack

@kyyyann

2 ай бұрын

Playing on Jp rn. I have been using noctis in my lighting team ever since he came out. Hes very cool and in my humble opinion, has the most entertaining side story I have ever read in pgr!

21 makes me go feral, i am hyped

@rzv_eixfer2739

2 ай бұрын

Real shit

@zamirroa

Ай бұрын

😭💢😭💢😭💢😭

@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837

Ай бұрын

she's so cute and funny

Just a reminder that we are 1 patch away from full cerberus team 🐺

@ExecutorArtaris

2 ай бұрын

ahahha let's go, imma SSS+ that dumbarse Noctis for the lulz for sure

20:23 no.21 gao😭so cute😭

Awesome video! Thank you once again for making a great guide. Your hard work is always appreciated. I got a friend to start playing PGR and immediately sent them to start watching your guides.

great edit , humor and informative. Congrats on another high quality guide!

goated guide as usual, thx for the vid. +bonus pts for it being 21 mins 🐺

As always great guide and appreciate the detailed and helpful descriptions. I'll at least get one copy of her for an off-field since I mainly use Alpha CW. And hit that sub button and bell icon. Looking forward to your future guides on PGR & WW!

@kramsogrub8104

Ай бұрын

is S rank 21 with only 5s weapon replaced liv SSS+?

Really impressive breakdown! Take my sub! 👍

I AM GOING FERAL WITH THIS ONE!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Thank you so much for the video !! I already know that i will have to watch this video like 7 more time because im dumb af lol

Thx you alot fo the Guides and nice jjk reference

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Haha thanks for the support 🤝

Been waiting for this video 😌

Thanks 2b. Needed this

Im not getting the best lightning team and veras new skin just to have Weave be on the field 99% of a fight and downgrade 21 and vera to QTE bots, im 100% going to be creating a good swap team. sometimes CW has no orbs after her second ult, and not enough energy to quickly go straight into her odachi stance right away, which makes it perfect to swap into 21, do a 10 second rotation or so, do a triple lightning fall with vera, then swap back into CW to have 4-5-6 new orbs to continue a rotation during a longer fight.

@ohreally6945

2 ай бұрын

Because CW is so good,you need her teammates to be heavily invested to not lose damage.....not a very f2p friendly team overall

@joseph071

2 ай бұрын

​@@ohreally6945 double SS and y good

@hijodelsoldeoriente

2 ай бұрын

​@@ohreally6945I don't think it's a non-F2P friendly team. You can guarantee all of them at SS and they don't really require sig weapon to function.

@ohreally6945

2 ай бұрын

@@hijodelsoldeoriente 21 without sig is a huge damage loss,its same for almost the other amplifiers and tanks too

@hijodelsoldeoriente

2 ай бұрын

@@ohreally6945 Indeed but then again, even as an F2P. Pulling for a signature weapon isn't as difficult compared to literally most of gachas since new character banners are 100% guaranteed and the weapon banners are at 80% rate and is selectable.

Thanks for the guide, will you make a video ranking Sig weapon or Cubs priority for S construct?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Um all of them low-key haha. General rule of thumb, try to get the signature for the main dps of the team first and their pets.

Thanks for the awesome guide on 21 Feral Scent! As a newish player who's saving up for Bianca Stigmata, I'll have to skip Feral Scent as I still plan to get the latest attackers while I'm saving for Stigmata. Besides, I enjoy playing Crimson Weave on-screen so it doesn't make sense for me to invest in a new support for her when I haven't even fully built HyperLee and other characters. I'll try to get Feral Scent on the next opportunity, she's just not a priority right now.

@VasterLordUlquiorra

2 ай бұрын

Think about it. The banner banner will be in August. but in August there will be a new feature for beginners. she will give you a choice of 100% of the character S for the usual blue roles. Read this. I decided that I would pull Bianca out in September when I had accumulated 60 rolls. Besides, I'm missing everyone between the cat and the mermaid. which I think will give you a chance at alpha.

thank you, as always ♥

You sir have earned a new Sub, congrats brother

Got her on 5 pulls lol now I'm watching this to know about her, even more complicated when I'm a newbie who literally started playing today

That intro is spot on perfect lmao

in my case I'll pull for her on Lamia patch on standar banner so i can save some bc for sig wpns

20:25 21 Is just so 😭😭😭❗❓ One of the reasons I'm still playing

Awesome video as always

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Appreciate it

Me over here watching the whole video all the way even though I am just gonna run QTE bot XD

@noox13

2 ай бұрын

I feel that. I even watch full vids for characters I know I'm skipping.

@ohreally6945

2 ай бұрын

PGR is just getting harder for f2p with each update tbh ..... because most of the new characters need to have high investment....for f2p....she will mainly just be a QTE bot

@arkyflame1599

2 ай бұрын

​@@ohreally6945 bro. Ss is free for f2p. And ss is what allows her to be a sub dps. Yall are yapping even tho yall are wrong i stg yall aint even watch the video

@e.5r

2 ай бұрын

@@arkyflame1599 bro some ppl saving skull ppg for Lamia

@misttermd6299

2 ай бұрын

@@arkyflame1599 But them I woudln't be able to SS Lamia (an attacker so having her at SS is more important), this for f2p is getting harder and harder

Thanks for the video.

i love how you use suzunaderp there as a priconne fan

That opening is fireeeeee! XD

Best guides of KZread

I'm gonna ask something that on everyones mind right now WHAT THE DOG DOIN

Got her, her 6-star weapon and her cub in 7500 BC I got during Hanying' patch

looks so fun to play with her, definitely get her to rank SS 😊💪🏼

I have a current of faith and lux I have saved up for a cat. Should I put a suite instead of a suite? Garnet is my main DPS right now

I'm really happy feral21 is finally here I was getting bored of solo cw

Amazing as always. Little side note tho. The damage buff in warzone for the lighting team occurs at below 80% hp for one patch. After that it becomes 60% increase for 8 seconds after every swap in. This misconception is what led to the CW solo team so be careful y'all.

best daughter is back btw, could it be possible to make a CUB priority list? i know context is important, but surely some provide bigger bonuses than others (like rainbow for ayla)

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Hmmm maybe I'll do it on stream

I was thinking in skipping her since i thought she needed SS3 (As nearly every amp) to work properly, well now I'm sure I'll get at least a copy + weapon

What’s her rotation if I wanna play her as a sub dps with CW but I don’t have Vera 🥹 or just play her as qte bot until I have Vera?

Thanks for the guide sir! Love this little pup. I have a question: After 3ping + 3ping and basic attack, sometimes I dont have any more orb to 3 ping so this causes me to stuck with basic attack and hope i got a 3 ping spawn. is this just Rng or I mess up the rotation? haha

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

It's covered in the guide. Basically you want to 3 ping abd then 1-2 ping to save the 3 orb ping

I dont have garnet and still working on SS empy, do you think i should still get for 21 and weapon so i can sub dps her at S with alpha?

i need a bit of advice. since ice team wont be getting any new characters for now. should i get ayla's sig or get 21 sig. personally i think i should just go for ayla sig since she's the main dmg dealer for months to come. and there's alpha for lightning

I've been waiting for this character to drop, she is adorable but also ferocious. So much gap moe.

As a collector, I really have no problem pulling No. 21 Feral Scent and leaving her at Base S, to be then upgraded in the future. My issue comes in when a 6* weapon is involved. I'm still stuck on who's weapon to pull first between Feral Scent, Capriccio and Scire

@doommaker4000

2 ай бұрын

For now I guess Scire is the most needed since Dark team still kinda sucks

@Wilmadiamond

2 ай бұрын

Probably Scires. Dark team will receive a huge boost with Lamia and Scire probably get the most benefit from it as she gets more dark res debuff. Alpha can do just fine staying onfield so feral scents weapon isn’t as nessacery. Capriccio’s weapon has no support locked behind it other than resonance, it’s mainly used to consistently ult each rotation.

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Yup scire for sure

welp, time to get her then, and her wep if i can :'D... not to mention even if i don't have Vera Garnet since i got Liv Empyrea in my last S-Selector (also i haven't use Liv Lux much lols, was busy building Empyrea that time and Alysa :'D), question will be suffering on getting Lamia next that is :'D.....

I just started a new TW account i have a few questions - In the blue ticket banner i am trying to pull S lamia and pulled A teddy and A No.21 is building a Dark team with S Lamia f2p? is A teddy better support than A Vera? who is better in terms of f2p S Alpha or S Lamia ?

ok stupid question for her heals do the team need to be qte in on the battle to get the heal or na?

Cute and funny mentioned 😭

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

sss+ liv lux or s 21? planning to just use them as qte bot so not sure if i should pull 21(though being cute and funny is certainly a convincing arguement

My favorite character is coming😍😍😍

21 cutest

Hey spider I have a question about vera (idk if u are gonna make a video about her leap so I'm gonna ask here) her resonance still stays as tank or should I change it for ult/core passive?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

I'm assuming garnet, I've kept in on tank class skill yeah.

Can’t wait for more of 21 and Noctis sharing one brain cell.

Is the sub dps rotation recommended at any level of investment for Alpha? For example, SS3 Alpha and SS 21, or is SS3 21 needed to be worth swapping out of alpha?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Any level but it's harder to execute

22k bc with 3k red tix and 30 pity on debut s rank banner should i go for 21 + weapon? im f2p

im using Bianca Veritas with her for now as I missed out on Crimson Weave, but should I try to keep 21 on field as much as possible or use her like I would with Crimson Weave ?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

like with Alpha CW

re watching so I can time my advancement of No.21 and just heard he CUTE and FUNNY. I am happy to hear that phrase

Got the whole package. Never do multi on pet pulls btw. I wasted some BC again, got a fkn triplet.

Spider2B but in any case we will play cottie on 21 in addition to the question that later there will be harmonization on the weapons where Ginevra will be placed we are always back to top and she gets both sets, I obviously put the resonance deadline on the PCs who are they eat a lot of globes, question about karenina scire as she received the leap the harmonization on her and 4x candle and 4x boone or 2x esthenia and 2x condelina?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

4 boone 4 bathl for ss3+

@marcogorgoglione4792

Ай бұрын

@@Spider2B Spider2b I have it I have Ss3 not +, why don't you play the 4x Condelina with the harmonization since it further increases the damage of the spinner, do you play 4x bath because of the leap? Will you make a video where you explain the appropriate harmonizations of the various character sets based on what rank they are? I ask you this because on some characters it is not clear what harmonization to make such as (Rosseta, Vera, Karenina and etc.) however on other characters it is simple such as (Ayla, Selena and 21e liv) they are all 3 Ginevra instead Liv and Darwin

Best of luck for everyone's pulling for 21 Feral Scent !

@Suc-Chii

Ай бұрын

Lmao thanks got her and managarm

She's be a great addition to my lightning team but my other teams are weak so I'll have to skip her 😢

So it's possible to make her a sub dps in SS with like 2-3 reso signature weapon? Or should I just keep her as qte in lightning cuz my CW is SS3?

@pwowq

2 ай бұрын

Feral with ss and sig is enough. Also cw ss3 is a swap rank which is very useless if you're gonna play solo cw

But if I don't have the budget for 21 , what can I do because o don't I have 64 bc right now

Y'all know when Alpha reruns? Just got her weapon and idk what to do with it.

Quick question fellas, is this patch big enough to have about uhhhh…..8k bc in it? Cuz that’s how short I am on guaranteeing the character

don't worry liv lux is still an economy friendly frame. Use her when 21 becomes harder get. aka you still need a lighting healer for pain cage and war zone

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Yep

oh we claw shit soon!

If I have SSS CW is it optimal to just keep 21 as an off field support or do I play her as sub-dps?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Ideally you swap thru them all

I currently have S garnet, SS Crimson Weave +Sig, and SSS Lux. I dont think I have enough black cards to pull S 21, should I still try and pull her or save my black cards for someone else Sig weapon or other upcoming contruct? P.s I don't really care about leaderboards but I kinda still want to get the highest score I can get.

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

The next two patches are "save" patches of sorts (outside of Alisa 's sig weapon). So I'd try to pull but if you're really really strapped on bc, then you can forgo pulling.

im ready to get no.21 wolfy mode

So 21's ult is arcueid's np Cool

i' mwaiting to pick her for free from basis R&D during Lamia patch.

@Sail17

2 ай бұрын

? She will come on basic R&d in lamia????

@Yggdrasl2077

Ай бұрын

new characters are added to standard R&D every 2 patches so yes​@@Sail17

If I don't have 21 at SS I only can play her as QTE bot only? I want to save some PPC for Alisa or Lamia, and probably not gonna pull for her weapon since I only have 16k BC right now.

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Yeah qte bot.

Saved up enough for everything just here to know if her CUB is necessary.

@SRFAA

Ай бұрын

CUBs are rarely if ever classified as necessary. They provide a boost to stats/skills though so if you're trying to get great scores in Warzone and Phantom Pain Cage you shouldn't skip any of the S cubs for meta characters.

@tahraki4918

Ай бұрын

If you love 21, yes If not, no

Gon listening to cottie rotation :😵😵😵 2B, is it ok to run cottie (bottom row for slight increase Stat) and still use the first rotation. As always great vid

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

1. Hahaha 2. Yeah that's fine. The difference isn't really that big to justify cottie over guinavere for single rotation but it still works.

Man I can’t wait for Noctis, can bench CW and run full Cerberus

Why is pgr suddenly not available in my region? Ive been playing aince the release. Global version. Im from india. And noe its gone for month

So I'm going from one Feral Child(Eatchel) to another (21) Sounds like fun i do enjoy headpatting somewhat unstable animal girls

I just need 7 pulls to guarantee a weapon, do I risk the 80% for Garnet, hers or Noctis (off rates will help my ice team)?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

21 for sure

Damn that intro ,nah , I'd win 😂

21 minutes for 21's guide... perfection

Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't 21 the one who started the whole 100-page core passive description?

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

it feels like it's been like that for too long now haha

Im gonna be feral to get Feral at SSS+ MAXED!!

5:45 heals for Hanying’s attack 😛

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

I need healing based on hanying's attack at this point 😂

Id like to use her as main dps is it possible?

Im gonna save up for lumia

I love you ❤

I don't wanna skip her, but I did some math, and assuming we get 7k BC every patch, eventually you just have to skip someone, and I mean, Lamia, Watanabe, Qu, and Luna are straight up not skippable, idk about Hanying but you just don't have many options at all. I'm sitting at 49k BC and I still have to skip her if I wanna get everyone up to Hanying, I thought about getting her with the blue ticket banner on Lamia's patch, but I think I'm better off waiting and getting Watanabe for free on Teddy's patch so I can also save for whoever comes after Hanying I'm literally only posting this so someone tells me I'm wrong because I wanna pull for her lmao, but I think she's the most skippable character for a while

@misttermd6299

2 ай бұрын

I only have 17k, it sucks being f2p. I still dont have scire for lamia each patch sucks more and more lol

@GrinningReaper

2 ай бұрын

What? You should be able to get one copy of every character every patch, especially with the amount of BC you currently have. The only people it might get tricky for are pure f2p players. If you're planning to pull copies or pull on the anniversary banner, then that depends entirely on your pull plans and ppc skulls usage. The next two patches after 21 are free characters (A rank and a farmable amplifier). Then it's a banner character, a free A rank collab, and then two banner characters before the patches go back to normal.

@zffrailgun1630

2 ай бұрын

Except we don't get 7k BC every patch, we get more on average. Even if you're F2P, you can still guarantee every single debut S rank Omn as long as you only pull for those and nothing else.

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

49k bc should still be more than enough due to the a rank patches in between and the lamia character selector

@Yggdrasl2077

Ай бұрын

You're WRONG now you can pull

Hello sir, before I pull is there any upcoming banner to consider before going broke on feral 21? or should be enough time to safe until then? thank you!

@spiderninja8779

Ай бұрын

After 21, there's gonna be 2 free character patches Noctis and Arisa After those it's Lamia who's the next best dark DPS. And during lamia patch, you can select any S rank up until S 21 from standard banner So I say you have enough time to save

@gracias86

Ай бұрын

@@spiderninja8779 awesome thanks a lot! I guess I’ll get her and her signature weapon!

@spiderninja8779

Ай бұрын

@@gracias86 good luck!

Soooo quick question as someone who doesn't know much about the game, but still wanna get into it. Is this character in the global version or nah ?

@BoredInTheComments

Ай бұрын

Yes

If I already have other amp sss with both axial ray and glorious spear as support should I pull for her ?

@Rejjis

2 ай бұрын

If you're on a budget? No If you want to upgrade from Lux? Yes It's that simple my guy

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

not absolutely necessary buy nice for sub dps.

You my my girl Liv dirty with that intro S2B, i will not forget this day

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

Wdym she's still strong 😂

basically whether you need her or not? yes u do even if u dont play😭😭😭

i have CW SSS, so the question is: should I play solo CW with Off field 21 or, should i rank 21 to ss3 to be sub dps? Which way is the best? P/s: I have enough black card for both way, but i dont know if she worth to spend or not, if my CW only ss or ss3, i'll definitely get 21 ss3, but my CW is SSS with perfect resonance both memories and weapon.

@Spider2B

Ай бұрын

I'd say it's still fine to swap but swap rotation will take practice. Try both and see how you feel.

Unfortunately i'll have to skip her banner (the snow petal coating consumed all of my black cards) good luck to everyone who'll pull for her tho

At what point is it not worth brining Feral 21 on field? Like... I have Alpha CW at SS + Sig (1 reso) + Her bike (SS) will it be worth it to me to swap in a SS feral with a 5* weapon and an off element cub or at that point should I just keep her S and just use her as a QTE bot?

@zerenityzerene4410

2 ай бұрын

She would just be a qte bot then, you need her weapon and cub (at least her weapon) for the option of sub DPS to be possible. Even for qte bot her weapon is important

@nebulamask81

2 ай бұрын

@@zerenityzerene4410 Ok cool, thanks, I'll just pick up a single copy of her then just as a lux upgrade. Main DPS are going to have to take priority for me with the limited extra bc I've gotten from lucky early pulls etc. as f2p. I'll consider upgrading 21 later on if I get super lucky though. Cheers.

LETS FU KING GOOOOOOIOO

Is it alright to use 4pc davinci and 2 piece guinevere? Guinevere gives the 15% elemental bonus dmg but davinci let's me activate vera's QTE. my rotation is basically CW 1st ult--->vera QTE----> CW dive (the first 5-7 waves get cleared even in low stacks)---> immediately Lux/ no21 QTE at the moment I hit the dive which activates Vera QTE again for my CW's orb attacks. I am thinking the ability to do this rotation is more worth than the 15% elemental dmg bonus since I get an extra vera QTE which is much stronger.

@SRFAA

Ай бұрын

That doesn't make sense since 21 does more damage than Vera, and you're sacrificing her unique memories making her weaker in the process. Vera is the weakest member, and is the one who should have DaVinci in the group. She should barely be the controlled character.

@Ero_no_Kami

Ай бұрын

@@SRFAA I specifically mentioned QTE? I am not using either Vera or 21, both are only QTE supports.

@SRFAA

Ай бұрын

@@Ero_no_Kami I'm saying that doesn't make sense. Why would you specifically make 21 focus on QTE (4 Davinci) if Vera is the one who should be focusing on QTE? 21 would benefit the group more if you actually made her fight, and gave Vera the memories that focus on QTE. Having 21 focus more on QTE makes sense if you're not going to gear her much.

@Ero_no_Kami

Ай бұрын

@@SRFAA I am not making 21 fight bruh. I don't have investment for her to equal CW 's dps. Vera is running on davinci but I need vera to double QTE not 21. I'll switch her to something else if 21 can davinci

@SRFAA

Ай бұрын

@@Ero_no_Kami Okay, in that scenario that build makes a bit more sense and helps future proof since Vera would probably get replaced before 21 in the future so she'd be the one who needs Davinci at that point. Although, depending on how much you're planning on gearing 21 it might be more beneficial to just keep Liv Lux since 21 needs her 6 star weapon to get the 20% lightning buff. Liv Lux gets 20% through her regular upgrades. Your Alpha also wouldn't be benefitting from the amplifier buff either. So it's similar to the Vera vs. Selena debate people were having months ago.

She is like Zeta from Granblue fantasy relink but Unfixable