The Coming Wave of Sex Negativity - Katherine Dee | Maiden Mother Matriarch 4
My guest this week is journalist Katherine Dee. She’s a culture reporter and writes an advice column at her Substack defaultfriend.substack.com. Her work can be found in the Washington Examiner, Tablet, UnHerd, and many other places. Katherine has an encyclopaedic knowledge of the internet: contemporary internet culture, the history of the internet, and the effect that it’s having on society. We spoke about Katherine’s theory on the political importance of Tumblr, the so-called ‘male-to-male transsexual’ as a product of the internet age, why Chinese kids aren’t allowed on TikTok, and much more.
Katherine’s essay ‘The coming wave of sex negativity’
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The Case Against the Sexual Revolution by Louise Perry is available to buy here: amzn.to/3xLHJNd
1:10 The coming wave of sex negativity
5:11 Internet niches and mainstream culture
8:25 ‘Tradwives’ as an online trend
14:25 Should the MMM podcast move to OnlyFans?
22:23 Is AI going to replace OnlyFans?
26:17 The strongest argument in defence of porn
31:34 What weird porn does to people’s brains
37:24 The male-to-male (and female-to-female) transsexual
38:53 Why women get obvious lip fillers
41:24 The link between Tumblr and the Great Awokening
47:14 Is wokeness bad for teenagers’ mental health?
50:43 The origins of the term ‘latinx’
54:06 Gen Z online culture
1:00:07 How fashions are transmitted
1:05:12 Why is TikTok so popular?
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2 and a half years I've been listening to some quality podcasts but they're mostly hosted by men. Great content but too often missing the perspective on topics from women. Louise Perry, THIS is the kind of podcast I've longed for. Lots of love from me (self declared terf since 2008)
@pera.j.andersson
6 ай бұрын
Interesting how different perspectives can be. Me, I've been listening to quite some quality podcasts for the last 3 or 4 years. And about 90 percent of them have been produced or presented by women. However, the one with Louise Perry and her conservative thinking is not one of them, IMHO. Mia Blomgren, Sex and the State, Sexplanations, Good Girls Talk About Sex!, Alla våra ligg, Honestly with Bari Weiss, Trosbekännelser, Chatting with Candice, The Curious Girl Diaries, En varg söker sin pod, Sex på riktigt, Sex Out Loud, The Dildorks, The Unspeakable, Two Girls One Mic, The Guilty Feminist, You're Wrong About, Media Storm, The Rialto Report, Girls on Porn, Holly Randall Unfiltered, Femsplainers, Män visar kuken för mig, You Are Not Broken, Doing It!, Ihop med Josefin, Lovers and Friends, Lundströms bokradio, On the Whorizon!, Sex Power Money, Sitting in a Car, Skåpet /…/, Sounds Fake But Okay, Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Taxen och Terriern, The Dr. Debra Soh Podcast, The Electorette, The Guilty Feminist, The Sofia Gray Show, F**ks Given and some others are (IMHO). BTW, I'm not a TERF. All the best! 🙂
@catcat9582
4 ай бұрын
Agree
Maybe we should not refer to the coming wave of sex ‘negativity’, but refer to it as a realignment. Returning to a more ethical, less selfish mindset that predates the hypersexualized and distorted lens we’ve all been looking through for the past 5 decades.
@tracys3096
Жыл бұрын
It won't be though. It will likely just be another ideal that the those who strive for it will find ways to game the system to have it.
@sarahrobertson634
Жыл бұрын
Women are going to start withholding sex from men, at every level. The global sec strike is coming.
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
When was this more ethical, less selfish mindset?
@jefffrederick8648
Жыл бұрын
@@toomuchinformation You ask a valid question and make an excellent point. I stand corrected.
@sarahrobertson634
Жыл бұрын
@@jefffrederick8648 A wise man once said "A stiff prick has no conscience".
Sex positivity is such weird framing. It's powerful -but that's why we have to be careful with it. I'm not fire-positive. I recognize that fire can be useful/enjoyable/beneficial, and it can also be horrifically destructive. In the right place and time, it's good. In the wrong place and time it's not. Same with sex.
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
It’s a very strange phrase, which I’ve instinctively disliked.
@gumdeo
6 ай бұрын
It means Promiscuity positive. In reality, monogamy leads to more sex and better sex for the average person.
@yanamclaughlin1644
4 ай бұрын
That's a good analogy
@JF-cd5hc
19 күн бұрын
Well said.
Sex positivity as a cultural value has led to the explosion of STDs, which contributes to infertility, cancer and immunocompromising conditions. We need to be more objective about the health risks of sex.
@gumdeo
6 ай бұрын
UTIs as well.
Can’t believe we still have sane people referring to Mulvaney as “she” or any kind of woman.
@gumdeo
6 ай бұрын
Those who do not love the Truth will fall to the lie.
@kaybrown7733
4 ай бұрын
Why do you care? It's not you.
@Nightdiver20
4 ай бұрын
@@kaybrown7733 People going along with something so blatantly untrue doesn't concern you?
@kaybrown7733
4 ай бұрын
@Nightdiver20 No, it has nothing to do with me. I'm not concerned with what you or any other stranger is doing with their body, sexuality, or who they marry. That is none of my business.
@Nightdiver20
4 ай бұрын
@@kaybrown7733 I remember my libertarian phase. Don't worry, you'll probably grow out of it
Love the podcast ms Perry, you introduce me to many people I otherwise wouldn't ever have known about, keep up the great work!
Dylan Mulvaney is a man and _definitely does not look like Audrey Hepburn_ ; don't ruin Audrey for me.
@dougmasters4561
Жыл бұрын
Big quotes around "man"
@barbarapierce5830
Жыл бұрын
It looks to me like Dylan is trying to look like Jackie Kennedy Onassis. Anyone else think so?
@Lindsay_Mason
Жыл бұрын
No, he doesn't look like Audrey Hepburn, but that's clearly the KIND of look he's going for
@Heidi123
Жыл бұрын
Since he got his face /jaw narrowed his mouth looks huge when he speaks or smiles.
@The-Finisher
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I still have eyes.
I’m so glad you’ve started your own podcast! 👏🏽👏🏽
For my part, here is the really interesting cultural tension I see. On one hand, there is the idea of body positivity and a stigma against judging others' bodies and unfairly sexualizing people (especially women). On the other, there is a push to destigmatize porn and sex work... which is all about judging people by their bodies and sexualizing them. And seemingly, not many people have figured out that however good these two ideas are individually, they don't quite fit together and can't coexist very well.
@pera.j.andersson
6 ай бұрын
Porn and sex work in general is about entertainment. And the right to be different. And erotic art has been influencing our culture for some 35,000 years, so why stop now?
@user-wj6dt5bq3w
Ай бұрын
What is "unfairly sexualizing"? If it wasn't for sex none of us would be alive. Everyone is a potential sex object in public life because we as humans seek to reproduce our species.
Loved to hear her say 'more critical thought' might be coming. Most of the problems, in first world countries currently, and some quite serious ones around rights and freedoms, would be solved by more people in general and younger people in particular performing some basic critical thinking.
What you're describing is called porn escalation in online anti-porn and porn addiction spaces. There are many stories with comparisons to drug abuse. Users describe seeking greater taboos and unusual genres after "vanilla" porn no longer produces the same high.
honestly I miss the days when people didn't talk openly about the taboo sex they were having - part of the fun of kinks/fetishes/taboos is that other people don't know you're doing it! 😂
I hope women will develop 'sex wisdom' as they age. I pray for the younger members of our sisterhood. As a trans widow, that is the wife of one of the rabbit hole men, I sympathize with my trans widow sisterhood.
Great guest; thank you!
Excellent, been loving the podcast. Back to natural law and the common good!
Fascinating discussion. So enjoying your podcast!
Holy hell! The male to male and female to female transsexual term is so apt! I’ve never been able to quite put my finger on what was wrong with people who do this. But it does feel like an overcompensation that becomes parody.
I've been following you for a while now, and I've recently been enjoying your podcast. great work. thank you! would be nice if your episodes had chapters though
Really interesting conversation and I've subscribed!
@Maiden Mother Matriarch with Louise Perry Given the overlap with your books on the Sexual Revolution I wonder if you'll be talking with Mary Eberstadt?
Glad to find this channel.
I’ve never felt so validated. This is EXACTLY the things I’ve been thinking.
Another great guest 🤟
Fascinating discussion. Subscribed. Just when I was going to abandon YT for being a waste of time, I stumble across this. Looking forward to what you have coming up next.
I hope you are right about a pendulum swing. But it seems like sex trends go further, deeper, and more out there. It's more like an hedonic treadmill.
@RCCarDude
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no: advertised sexual activity becomes that way, but statistically more and more people are having less and less sex. Think about it like this: you have 11 and 12 year old girls who are stating they're polyamorous, pansexual, etc. but they've never even kissed another person. The commodification of identity.
As ever, excellent.
As with ANYTHING that media starts pushig too hard, like "positivity" and "afirming", we have to ask ourselves WHO reaps the benefits of this? WHO ends up paying the price (socially or in literal cash)?
Interesting chat. I am not down with the right to sex arguments using those of us who are disabled like we are unf**able and the idea we should have a sexual service class. Also Dylan Mulvaney is a deeply misogynistic offensive man and a grifter. He’s not “she”. Other than those grips it was a fascinating analysis of social trends and the role of the internet and apps.
@henryclamore4791
Жыл бұрын
But your a woman so your not seen as unfuckable even when disabled.
@TGP109
8 ай бұрын
Most of them are female impersonators, and yes, it can be misogynistic.
Can't wait.
I know this isn’t really what ppl are talking about, but I’m a woman with a very stereotypically male sex drive. I also have no desire to have children. So I find her and Mary Harrington very interesting and sympathetic but I also can’t relate to a lot of what they say.
The best thing I've discovered in the last months are podcasts led by intelligent, mature women, with comment sections filled with intelligent, mature comments from women. I have yet to discover a better way to leave the horrible, tribal, victimized space where i landed after being unspeakably abused by my last two relationship partners after an adulthood of good relationships. Thank ALL of you! Men- go HERE, not hideous second wave red pill spaces that support and proliferate your victimhood!
Dylan is a man who is envious of women because how life is easier for us vs a man let alone a gay man. We get the men that he wants and can’t have. So he dresses up as a girl and makes us look bad without trying to “slut shame”. That’s just my little theory about him. I can’t speak from a trans pov because idk anybody personally a trans person but I do know gay men.
@henryclamore4791
Жыл бұрын
He is right. I am mostly right wing, but I fully support mtf trans getting to steal some of your female privilege. I laugh when all these clowns pretend to care about men competing in women's sports.
Is the camera switching from the guest to the host or having both on at the same time a product of manual editing or is there some automated program that does this?
Such an important voice.
thank you for the great and informative podcast! 1) The bit at 45:00 about girls forced into a self-debased posture by intersectionality and gender ideology is spot-on, I've heard detransitioners discuss this exact phenomenon (on tumblr no less) as extremely harmful to their mental health, and even pushing them into self-IDing as trans to gain enough status to be allowed to voice an opinion. (Helena has written and spoken about this a lot.) also, with respect: please don't call anyone 'cis.' 2) w/r/t to sissy hypno (yuck), i've read some men's posts about why they enjoy this, and it seems like an inevitable result of extreme porn addiction. they watch these graphic videos of female bodies so much (1000s of hours), their brain essentially rewires itself to be aroused by the body being acted upon - not the act of personally engaging in sexual activity - and then they want, in some cases need, to become that body. This is one way AGP begins, imho. Genevieve Gluck has done lots of research into this subgenre and its horrible effects on male mental health, but be warned. It's such grotesque content, I can't even read research about it anymore.
@user-kw9hg9o
Жыл бұрын
"their brain essentially rewires itself to be aroused by the body being acted upon" The wording is a bit confusing here. You mean the woman's body itself, or the situation of her body being placed in a very specific scenario? Because the former is simple attraction. I don't need any conditioning to feel that.
@sweeeeeeeeeeeeee
Жыл бұрын
@@user-kw9hg9o Women are being groomed to accept being raped
@user-kw9hg9o
Жыл бұрын
@@sweeeeeeeeeeeeee I don't understand how this connects to my comment
@sweeeeeeeeeeeeee
Жыл бұрын
@@user-kw9hg9o It connects to everything. Its awful and it needs to be stopped before its too late
Tumblr hypothesis makes perfect sense
defaultfriend is the friend I want. a very cool person.
Touching on alot of important, culturally-relevant topics here. Shame that the TikTok element seemed to focus more on Katherine's personal usage of the app and less on damaging aspects of TikTok on young people's attention-spans (now scientifically-backed), and in terms of further facilitating the toxic and fractured inter-gender dynamic between young men and women from a dating/sexual perspective. I'm fully in agreement with your observation Louise, that TikTok is primarily used by Gen Z. Katherine perhaps is in a slight bubble of older TikTok users due to her being a journalist, but the zeitgeist on TikTok is dominated, and tailored by, teenagers and people in their early 20s. The point on 'Chinese TikTok' had all but a few seconds of coverage unfortunately, yet the fact that the app's content is so radically different for their own children vs for western children, is such a crucial point for predicting how our future world-stage is going to play out, and is very telling about TikTok in general. It's demonstrably clear by now, that this is a sociocultural weapon employed by the CCP, which whilst seemingly innocuous on the surface, is indented - whether directly or indirectly - to weaken, confuse and destabilise the younger generations in western nations, leaving the global stage in a position of opportunity for China to swoop in and take its place as the new main superpower culturally, economically and politically. A couple of other thoughts I had whilst listening: - The rise of ‘incels’ IMO is largely a modern phenomenon. Many of the men who I see as identifying as incels are, for all intents an purposes, not undateable (at least on paper). They're merely by-products of our current sociocultural environment and its ills. It’s interesting to consider how many of our grandfathers, or even fathers, would have been incels were they to be young men right now, as opposed to 30, 40, 50, 60 etc years ago. Obviously as you said, there's no way to empirically identify/prove any of this, but I'd wager that the actual % of men who are legitimately, and unfailingly, incapable of getting a romantic relationship with a woman, is very small. But the latest figures show that around 60% of young men (in the USA, at least) are reportedly single/sexless (by their own admission). Biologically, it's not really feasible that nearly 2/3rds of the male populace are complete failures to the extent that they can't get even a single mate. These statistics are significantly warped by modern socioculture and its manifestations, which includes everything from porn and OnlyFans, to video games and weed, and the fact that young women are on average now more financially independent and well-educated than ever before (in many instances out-performing men their own age). - In regards to the perception of OnlyFans and general 'sex positivity' (including views towards sex-work), we have to recognise the disparity between sociocultural acceptance and individual acceptance. The two don’t necessarily overlap nowadays, because we have a status-quo that upholds the virtues of limitless tolerance, aka our zeitgeist maintains “well, if it isn’t hurting anybody, what’s the issue?” This makes a lot of people turn a blind-eye to something like OnlyFans / sex work at the macro level, but nevertheless still not be able to ignore their inherent revulsion towards it on the micro-level (for instance, most guys not wanting to date/wife-up an OF girl, even if they don’t rage against OF at large). This will be the main reckoning for progressive liberalism and wokeness IMO - the fact that the average person is simply not on board with most of the ideas and 'norms' being pushed, but they ignore it out of fear of being cancelled/called a bigot, and turn a blind eye. However, this changes when said 'norms' arrive in peoples' own 'backyards', which is when strong pushback will occur.
@harrypike731
Жыл бұрын
@Divergent_Integral For sure the 'incel' phenomenon is not as binary, clear-cut and simplistic as a lot of people (particularly women) seem to believe. It's quite multi-faceted, and as you say, comprises both individuals who're genuinely undesirable (perhaps mentally handi-capped, physically deformed, dwarf/midget, etc), and those who simply cannot keep-up - physically, socially, or economically - with the consistantly-moving goalposts that modern hypergamy sets for the minimum standards of attractiveness in men. It's important to recognise that these two groups aren't the same, though some overlap can and does occur. I'm curious as to why you say you're a 'truecel' however - what do you think you have that makes you fall within this category? In more saner, stabler societys of days-gone, there would've been systems in place to ensure that even the 'undesirables' or 'truecels' can still obtain intimacy, or at the very least, could expend their masculine energy in an outlet that provided fulfillment and instilled in them a sense of purpose and utilitarian belonging. Some examples are Medieval Monks and other such religious folk, Asian Budhists, great craftsmen, scientists and artists in the community who dedicated their lives to that specific discipline. Young men who were unable to find a wife historically would've also found purpose in the military, which was a key foundation of virtually every society, with war a constant and ongoing part of life. Men need to feel like they're needed, and seeing as our modern socioculture places so much value on physical beauty, youth and sex, this further facilitates that sense of alienation and uselessness in men who are not physically beautiful and / or sexually succesful. The solution? Well, I think we need more - and better - male mentors, and a more meaningful rite of passage/coming-of-age for young men that isn't just "OMG BRO, I GOT LAID WITH STACEY AFTER THE FRAT PARTY!". We need less porn, less OnlyFans, less thots and more God. More social shame to instill good behaviours amongst the masses. And less focus on sex overall so that incels do not feel their lives are redundant in the absence of pu$$y.
@hallowakers3d2y
Жыл бұрын
Women will always outperform men when everything is stacked in their favor. (Free sat points, preferential grading, more scholarships thus more opportunities, anti male bias and rhetoric, etc)
@incredulousmidwit
Жыл бұрын
That was a massive wordsalad to get through. Summary of your second paragraph, “2/3 of men being involuntarily single seems impossible, therefor I don’t want to believe it’s true”. Pretty shit argument. The reality is that in the modern world, women will only associate with men if they want to. In the past, many women, whom weren’t ecstatic about settling down with the average man, had no choice - settle for average, or be a spinster. This isn’t the case anymore. If a woman wants to be single, society will encourage her, not shame her. Because of affirmative action, women are more likely to be hired for higher paying careers, and so and less dependent on men financially. So the only reason for women to associate with men now, is if there is genuine romantic interest. And, as we can see, most women are not romantically interested in most men. It’s as simple as that.
@harrypike731
Жыл бұрын
@@incredulousmidwit It's a complex, multi-faceted topic so requires a lengthy response. Word salad is waffle for its own sake, which is a different thing altogether. You evidently read it in order to provide a reply, no? As for “2/3 of men being involuntarily single seems impossible, therefore I don’t want to believe it’s true”, that's not what I said. What I said was, many incels are not inherently undateable/biological dead-ends, they're simply by-products of the current dating market and sociocultural pressures. Yes, there are off-course the small % of men who are simply just too ugly, too stupid, or too weird/autistic to ever find a partner. But they're the rare genetic fuck-ups. From a perspective of biological reality, 2/3 male humans aren't going to be born as genetic fuck-ups - its just that modern society enables women to remain in singledom for all but their most ideal man, which a first throughout human history. Indeed, the fact that two-thirds of young men are struggling to find a partner is primarily down to factors beyond their control (gynocentricism, matriarchy/longhouse society, feminisation of the media and pop-cultue, the existence of dating apps, porn, OnlyFans, the fact that more women are not going to university than men. The list goes on...) You had the word-salad, was that sufficient as a dessert?
@terry9238
6 ай бұрын
Yes-women have more options now. And what worries me are these “red pill” and other right wing movements that think the “solution” to all of society’s alleged problems is to take away women’s rights again, and turn back the clock to a time when women had to settle for the first man who proposed, just to survive.
Have Chris Williamson on. You two should have a talk related to the nuance you described with Dr Peterson regarding short term contractual consent in hook up culture being a quasi marriage replacement. Thank you!😊
@awsambdaman
6 ай бұрын
She definitely should, she’s been on Chris’ podcast a couple times now. She’s phenomenal
OMG I can tell you- it is very specific if you know what didnt used to be controversial--
Great pod@ Btw, Twitter was founded in 2006, and blew up in 2007 after it was widely used by tech influencers at SXSW. #history
AI is probably what will end the OF trend. There will be much more personalized AI content with 24/7 'service' and it'll completely outcompete the bottom 99.99% of creators on OF. I could see physical sex work increasing again after that, because AI has taken all the income from 'online sex workers', so they have to replace it somehow. Perhaps in the near future there will be a large market for mixed reality sex work, where they basically project their AI partner over a real person, exactly like in Bladerunner 2049. So either it'll decrease sex work overall or it'll just shift it into the physical space. I hope it's the first one.
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
What about online porn?
@Embassy_of_Jupiter
Жыл бұрын
@@toomuchinformation The amount of porn will probably stay the same (just artificially created), but the production involving people will probably significantly decline, because it's becoming much less profitable. Probably more so than with OF, because there is zero personal relationship involved in regular porn. It'll probably take 5-10 years until we are at that point where we can create perfect substitutes with AI and it becomes cheap enough to outcompete normal porn. Perhaps even less time, AI development is insanely fast.
@pera.j.andersson
6 ай бұрын
@@Embassy_of_Jupiter "zero personal relationship involved in regular porn". Yes, and that's the point of porn and much of sex work per se. It's the stripping of personality and focusing on the sexual essence in a human, while still have a person performing this. Circus acrobats, tennis pros and stuntmen are still in demand. The stunt profession can be challenged by AI, but the other ones?
Omg I knew I was in for a ride once tumblr was mentioned lol
I don't think it would be unreasonable at this point to tell my son that if she isn't worthy of your name, she isn't worthy of your body, because she isn't worthy of your DNA...even by accident.
@frusia123
Жыл бұрын
That's not how men are wired. Rather we should make sure that women know that if he doesn't think you're worthy of his name, he definitely isn't worthy of you.
@scottreichek2986
Жыл бұрын
@@frusia123 Considering the catastrophic damage that comes of breeding with the wrong person, or even becoming economically tied to the wrong person, I'm not thinking of asking him to necessarily "save himself for marriage." I'm recommending he not waste his time or gamble his future banging obvious trash, but instead at least limiting himself to women he's serious about.
@frusia123
Жыл бұрын
@@scottreichek2986 That's a wise advice. I genuinely hope your son will listen.
@grannyannie2948
Жыл бұрын
My life was changed when Germain Greer was asked on TV about the harm feminism brought to teenage girls. She replied nothing she ever wrote was for young girls, and said " little girls, if a boy says " if you love me you would have sex with me. " Then say to the boy, " if you loved me you would buy an engagement ring and ask to marry me." " I think all young people should be told this.
@scottreichek2986
Жыл бұрын
@@grannyannie2948 pretty much spot-on. My advice to any girl who hears that line is, "Don't walk away...RUN!"
Marcuse said all this 50 years ago in 90% fewer but more incisive words. This isn't a bad rant, but honestly, what else ya got? All moral revolutions in an overdriven free-market culture turn out to be short-lived hustles that leave people (followers, especially) feeling duped and resentful. If anyone thinks repressive resublimation is going to be any less of a hollow con than repressive desublimation, they should stop now, brush up on their Marcuse, and understand how revolutions and counterrevolutions under a regime of free-market extremism are bound to end with the same mix of buyer's (sucker's) remorse and turning to the next "solution" coming at you from salespeople.
@TGP109
8 ай бұрын
Marcuse was left wing, of course he would say stupid things like ''free markets'' cause this or that. The problem is we don't live in free market economies, but mixed economies where the government has a heavy hand in many ways.
@skylinefever
5 ай бұрын
@@TGP109 Indeed. I love the Moldbug Cathedral and Bazaar argument. The market of ideas is almost always a rigged game.
tumblr derived as a way of explanatory system in that it had the tagging system which by way of 5% most enthused which if loud enough can become dominant and can patrol by hashtag- no idea how you can DM me but I can tell you the steamroll about it.
I would not assume that men who subscribe to only fans are necessarily single. I would bet a lot of them are in relationships, even marriages.
This conversation gave me so much hope. I realize all the extremism is an over correction and this will inspire a new wave of counterbalance. Thank you for this insight.🤍
DF slipping in those "sensitive young men" references. I see you.
1:06:08 we should bring it back.
Keep at it
Dialog gives the ideas to solutions
sound quality and audibility is poor - I have to keep replaying to hear the words
Decades ago Drew and Adam on Loveline called over the top women female-female impersonators.🤷
In 2012 the MGTOW content creators predicted the advent of the tradcons. These Men saw the future and prepared for it.
The swallowing so near the microphone is as intense but I really enjoyed it otherwise!! 😂❤
FFS why refer to Dylan Mulvaney as she & why, Louise, did you not pick up on this? I have no tolerance left for lying
Interesting discussion, though there seemed to be a lot of speculation and guesswork going on. Whenever I hear women discussing the effects of pornography on men I can't help wondering how they would feel about men discussing how pregnancy affects women.
@stevenseagull7.7bviews47
Жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is you're an expert and would like to be a guest who speaks on that very topic, amirite?
@jrd33
Жыл бұрын
@@stevenseagull7.7bviews47 Heh :-)
@TGP109
8 ай бұрын
I think it depends if they're relating what women have told them about what sex acts a boyfriend wants or if they're quoting quality research, but I get your point.
I was with you until Katherine started referring to men as "she". Nah. I can't believe a word anyone says who will willingly lie about a man being a woman. You totally lose all credibility at that point.
@harrypike731
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a bit weird, tonally-off tbh. Considering the rest of the discussion leans pretty RW, traditionalist and anti-woke, it was rather unexpected to see her conform to the progressive-left's dogma in terms of gender. I don't see how you can be a true feminist / advocate for women (and men!) but also support the trans agenda. They're inherently contradictory. Particularly when the person at hand is someone like Dylan Mulhvanney, who makes a literal mockery of womahood and is - for all intents and purposes - a parody of feminity; an unironic caricature of what the Right-Wing says that transwomen act like.
@biancawilloughby9980
Жыл бұрын
@@harrypike731 Transgender women face harsher levels of discrimination than other transgender people. A study on workplace experiences after people receive sex changes found that trans women, on average, lose almost one third of their salary, are respected less, and receive more harassment. At the same time, trans men often experience salary raises and greater authority in the workplace.
@patrickdoherty4527
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@minorityone
Жыл бұрын
@@biancawilloughby9980 transwomen are men.
@benaiahwright937
Жыл бұрын
@@biancawilloughby9980 who cares
I'm virgin man in 30s and I respect women and their choices
@dougmasters4561
Жыл бұрын
Slow clap.....
@johnkeane1419
Жыл бұрын
Are these two facts related?
It's throwing balances of selection natural off
@skylinefever
5 ай бұрын
I love when the Idiocracy gets Darwin Awards, or at the very least does not breed.
Many words, little said.
"...there is some portion of men for which it would be better if they were plugged into the virtual reality sex ecosystem" Throughout history eunuchs were a thing, but they aren't now. What are the consequences of that? Would these guys in past times just be eunuchs?
@brandonkemenymusic
Жыл бұрын
The motive for making eunuchs historically was more often not the sexual malpractice of the eunuch but something else. Castration of some kind has been used punitively however. There's certainly a debate to be had there, but it's a dangerous one with a lot of easy pitfalls and atrocities round one wrong turn.
@tomwright9904
Жыл бұрын
I thought you have eunuchs so you could keep them around your harem. I wonder if the ended up sleeping with your harem and you didn't care. I suspect the cause is the absence of harem and closer marriages.
@tinabenson1492
Жыл бұрын
I would think that the men these days that are transing essentially are turned into eunuchs if they have their testicles removed (like that swimmer/man Lia Thomas). Even the "bottom surgery" for the men where they get their p*nis flayed & shoved up inside of them, also! And, with all the female hormones flooding their bodies, yeah, they're still MEN. However, I think they're essentially just eunuchs! 😕
@grannyannie2948
Жыл бұрын
@Divergent Integral I agree, people took oaths of celibacy
Is it sex negativity or a promiscuity schism? Because it seems to me what's taking shape is more like a cultural schism, and what's at issue isn't necessarily sex but rather hookup culture, sex work, hyper-promiscuity, the sexual revolution, etc. Schism - "A schism is a division between people, usually belonging to an organization, movement, or religious denomination. The word is most frequently applied to a split in what had previously been a single religious body, such as the Great East-West Schism or the Western Schism. It is also used of a split within a non-religious organization or movement or, more broadly, of a separation between two or more people, be it brothers, friends, lovers, etc." The conversation is also shifting from solely about the social norms changing and moral degradation to is this actually harmful to women at large, what are the ramifications, what are the health and psychological implications, etc. Sex between long terms partners I think is not what's issue though but rather this schism of people waking up to the myriad problems and endless empty void-filling behavior of hookup culture, pornography, sexual liberation etc. and it's run-off knock-on effects such as greater risk of unwed pregnancy, STDs, ability to properly pair bond, greater likelihood of tumultuous relationships.
Every second word is like.
You have great content, keep putting more out.....Ps- you have a great intro-exit
@jsigur157
Жыл бұрын
Not sure you should promote an online dating site- conflict of interest?
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I had to stop listening at the explanation of who Dylan Mulvaney is.
As a woman who was abused by multiple men beginning at 4 years old when I was repeatedly raped and molested until 9 years old by my “teen” cousins ( who were 15-19 years). Then at 12 by a 40 year old man who manipulated me into a sexual relationship at which time I was placed in foster care. Foster care certainly did not result in any significant improvement. I find myself agreeing with nearly everything here but can not agree that returning to anything even remotely like the past would at all be an improvement. The one absolute in this life is that men will abuse whatever power they are given. History has taught us that men should NEVER be given any kind of authority over women now or in the future. To even suggest so is incredibly naive and dangerous.
@DivestedChristian
2 ай бұрын
Why did you skip over the part where predators are seen as victims by women who in turn push policies like BLM and restorative justice??? This was not the norm before feminism took over. This halfvbaked emotional take refuses to acknowledge the rise of sxual liberation and closure of asylums which are a HUGE part of the problem. Add to that women not having their family vet their spouse. Independence from community is harming women who in turn create more unstable children. You can't trash families then wonder why the stats keep going up. I hope no one is swayed by your little story made solely to bash Christians as if we're the ones importing criminals and protecting them.
CIA sweatshirt? That won’t trigger anyone. 😂
Tiktok is popular because it’s the best medium to show off good-looks.
Voting is what gives men the strength they have. How many soft women do you see?
'Sex negative' is a propaganda term. You don't have to use it and def don't have to accept its frame.
calling Dylan M "she". How ridiculous. He's not "trans". He's a grifter.
@Locke350
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a clip of Mulvaney identifying as “non binary” before talking about “being a girl”, so you can get away with calling him “they” in public.
Great content, great channel, but Perry's vocal fry is absurd I keep turning volume up and down lol
I'll be honest, I thought this conversation will be a bit more data, science driven rather than listing examples of onlyfan girls and similar...
the false consensus of authority by weight of columed determined the term AFAB and AMAB which is why peeps act like the Dr. be arbitary about it-
Cool CIA sweatshirt.
It should be legal ( if not mandatory) to taser anyone who says “ like” as often as Katherine.
I think if you made porn illegal or too hard to get, you would make a tipping point for young people and they would be pissed the f right off
@skylinefever
5 ай бұрын
I often joke that the moment there is no p*hub and xbox live, the non select dudes riot. Gotta keep the bread and circuses going.
42:00 Wokeness was the lab leak from Tumblr.😅
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No chance....the pill, easy divorce for women, options. No chance.
Why is defrauding male consumers of porn 'brilliant'?
Katherine can get the Dee.
Louise mumbles and trails off her sentences frequently...
Lol I'd like to hear these folks define "wokeness". The actual definition is to be aware, so I always replace woke with its real definition. It's hilarious, and it tells me how idiotic using that word to mean things you don't like is. 😂
@Nightdiver20
4 ай бұрын
In practice, it simply means anti-white. See Google's AI generated images if you need a visual aid
Luck has it your Brits 😆
People who buy sex are fat and ugly says louise perry. I don't necessarily know how to critique someone who eschews the idea thar judging people based on group is wrong.
@skylinefever
Жыл бұрын
I just say that if ugly and fat people are buying sex, at least they get to buy it. The last thing ugly and fat people need are more things to make them miserable about being fat and ugly. Even lower tier Brads buy sex, because there are a lot of games for average guys to get sex. They call paying a pro "Skipping the games."
@skylinefever
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like another "It isn't bad thing X when I do it" argument.
Like, at some point, like, Katherines "likes" made this, like, a little hard to, like, listen to.
@sarahhale-pearson533
Жыл бұрын
Aaaaargh. Didn’t hear it until I read your comment, now can’t hear anything else!
Ugh such an important conversation. Please tell your guest to stop using the word like so much. Hard to listen to.
Nooooo. You gave really bad advice. Never take women out!
Louise sounds like such a boomer when talking about tiktok 😄
Please Louise, stop mumbling...😢
God said to tell you what is un fair? King n Queen in supreme court justices. For instance we got together I would have our best interest to the end. Why give room for arguments. You undermining the union of marriage that way.
I liked this up to the point where two women start pontificating on Public Policy. That's when it's time to put them back in the kitchen before they make things even worse. No, seriously the Stupid is no longer funny at that point.
@terry9238
6 ай бұрын
Hear that, right wing women? Right wing men do NOT respect you! And if you’re going to ride along with the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, don’t be surprised when they turn on you and eat YOUR face.
Dylan is beautiful and inspiring.
@jayjaydubful
Жыл бұрын
Oh hi Mr Maynard, haven't seen you online for a while
@oliviamaynard9372
Жыл бұрын
@@jayjaydubful xoxo I do stuff outside sometimes
@friedawells6860
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing beautiful about a gangly 6'3" man in lipstick and women's clothing
@Lucas02000
Жыл бұрын
Dylans inspiring on how to sink bud light light 😂
As a gen z , i support trans because bio women aren’t the only women
@jayjaydubful
Жыл бұрын
Women are adult human females. That's the only way to be a woman. Keep on simping for men in dresses but you won't change reality
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
Bio men aren’t the only men either.
An hour of women driving and never reaching a dear destination.