The Comanche and the Horse | Native America | Sacred Stories | PBS
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Today the image of Indians on horseback is iconic. But Native Americans never set eyes on a horse before the 15th century when Europeans bring them to America as a weapon of conquest. The Comanche and other native peoples adapt the horse as a powerful ally in the fight to protect their land and way of life. The Comanche consider the horse a relative and a gift from the Creator. Find full episodes of Native America at to.pbs.org/2Dd...
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In Mongolia they say, “ We Mongols respect horse as our companion of night and day. The horse is the source of joy and pride of a Mongolian and we are nothing without our horses.”
My horse died a week ago. He was part of me. My heart. I hope his spirit has rejoined the Comanche herd.
@ilikechocolatealot6355
5 жыл бұрын
Carolyn Nigro he’s running free with his heard.🏞 he’ll always be around you.
@andreinarangel6227
4 жыл бұрын
...or maybe his spirit went back to the land of his "Creator" - Spain
@RJT80
4 жыл бұрын
@throw away There is ample evidence the horse actually originated in North America but then went extinct here. It many ways it was a homecoming. But people shouldn't romanticize humanity's relationship with this animal. Even the COmanche who would dominate half of the middle of the country treated them poorly. They were a status symbol but also a tool, and a food source.
@zdenkamitzas679
3 жыл бұрын
Carolyn Nigro I am so sorry D:
@captainsternn7684
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Carolyn Nigro, you are Comanche? I'm trying to find the name of that technique in English and in the Comanche language, the technique Comanche warriors used depicted @2:38 where they can hang on the side of the horse using their legs to hang on and fire from above or around the horses neck. Another depiction here: s3.amazonaws.com/assets.saam.media/files/files/images/1985/SAAM-1985.66.487_1.jpg
Comanche native and member of the comanche nation tribe from lawton Oklahoma. Love learning about our history!
As an educator I watch so many videos to tell the stories of different peoples. This is such a beautiful video and I will surely be sharing with my students so that they know the connection that the Comanche share with the land and the majestic horse. How fascinating a story!
The Horse is a great equalizer. It teaches us how to look at ourselves, and reflects our inner being. Shows us when we are stressed, or upset.
@sc666666
2 жыл бұрын
Def how the noble Indians handled their inner feelings
Horses may have originated in Eurasia and have been used by Europeans for much longer, but few cultures in Earth's history treated horses with the level of respect and equality as the Comanche did.
@campland2880
2 жыл бұрын
The Comanche truly "broke" their horses, and used them as shields during fighting. They didn't "respect" them, they used them.
@matthewreyes2401
2 жыл бұрын
What a donkey you are. They originated from the America’s
@PahaPoniesSpanishMustangs
Жыл бұрын
My stallion goes back to a Grey stud captured at the Llano Esticado in 1890.
@ricardoaugusto9925
Жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, there were findings that showed horses originally came from America. Then they went to Asia and Eurasia and went extinct in America. And returned with the europeans.
@saintultra2737
9 ай бұрын
@@campland2880you’re cute. I am Comanche, we loved these animals and it’s why Quannah Parker surrendered at the canyon where they killed thousands of our friends. You’re speaking lies, keep being mad over our greatness.!
Nice. My elders have passed and left such a legacy! My paternal great-grandma was born in Comanche, TX in 1897, married a Black man, moved to Austin, TX and prospered. Wow, The Spirit lives and I want to know more! 😘
@peterbobby99
4 жыл бұрын
Look into the history of the Freedmen of the Cherokee Nation and Choctaw.
it's very sad the part of the killing of the horses - it shows clearly what depths human wickedness can reach .we must love the earth and all the creatures - the Bible says Those who are meek will inherit the earth . this is very difficult to understand , but also very beautiful. :-) greetings from Rome , Italy
@papabear90
3 жыл бұрын
This kind of cruelty suits the American DNA perfectly
@connors5534
3 жыл бұрын
@@papabear90 You have no idea what happened this is a 5 minute video
@dancegod1691
2 жыл бұрын
If you think that’s “wicked”, the Comanche would routinely torture people to death.
@richardeast3328
2 жыл бұрын
@ Remo Gaggi and your DNA contains a lot of ignorance.
@Ravenholm337
9 ай бұрын
The Nez Perce also faced a similar fate when their horses were stolen by the US Army and were forced from their ancestral lands
The arrival of the Horses on Turtle Island, Abya Yala, Cemanahuac (the Americas) was actually a grand homecoming. From an evolutionary standpoint, the Americas is their ancestral continent. Even from what archeology and paleontology can tell us, horses as a whole group first began here in the Americas over 50 million of years ago, alongside their relatives that gave rise to camels and llamas of today. The very first horses were Hyracotherium and Eohippus (dawn horse), and they were very small, forest dwellers. The largest wild horses that ever lived in the world also lived here, and their fossils have been identified as Equus giganteus, as well as the Yukon horse. Prehistoric Indigenous peoples such as the Clovis cultures revered these wild, untamed horses in a time forgotten. They lived alongside these animals for over 20,000 years as the oldest human cultures in the Western Hemisphere. Clay figures and cave paintings survived after millennia, and they have shown us that horse cultures prospered so long ago, just like how the great bison, muskox, caribou, moose, and other large animals are still revered today. The last of the Equus giganteus and Yukon horses lived 10,000 years ago during the last ice age. They were large and untamed. When the ice age was ending, the ecosystems that previously sustained multiple megafauna species began to unravel and collapse. The land could no longer support the these large animals. The mammoths, ground sloths, smilodons, American cheetahs and cave lions, short-faced cave bears and even Argentavis, the largest flying bird in existence, and lastly the wild horses of the Americas did not survive the mass extinction event. Indigenous peoples and their modern horse cultures are essentially an echo from a forgotten time.
@misterbearmore4633
3 жыл бұрын
Well technically, the horses from the Americas are totally different species compared to the ones from Eurasia, though both of them are in the same genus (Equus), alongside donkeys and zebras. The species from Eurasia are Eurasian wild horses, which include subspecies such as Przewalski's horse and the now extinct tarpan, which are thought to be the ancestors of modern domesticated horses.
The history told in rocks; beautiful.
Big respect for the indain nations the true americns.
@silenttvshka
4 жыл бұрын
@@couldokun Ignorance must be very blissful for you.
@redxiii3159
4 жыл бұрын
@@couldokun your land? Tell me where is "your" land if you have to make payments still then it aint your land, no payment you get the boot, you dont own land smfh
@redxiii3159
4 жыл бұрын
@@couldokun can you tell me the definition of a virus if your so smart?
@darionlee5198
4 жыл бұрын
One Trick Pwny your land. No if anything it’s their land which you took and then forced my people to make
@mojojojo485
3 жыл бұрын
@@couldokun which is why you will be a minority in your own country by 2050. No complaining.
For anyone wandering what song. It’s the Comanche flag song
I find it sad that there are so many people today, who know very little of horses, have made it a mission to remove our horses from our lives. Crying about everything being cruel, they do not care how cruel it is to place the horse out of our lives, cruel to us and cruel to the horse. The horse has been by human side to build history, we owe them relevance today.
@chokinonashes61
5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. Having had a pony since the ages of 6, but being around them since a baby, they are spiritual animals, teaching us so much, it's so important to have horses in my life.
@mwhitelaw8569
5 жыл бұрын
Yes ma'am I still see them free And when I can I pay my respects And am paid back by such a powerful light I look up Stallion Curious eyes Catching my essence Sorrow Many blessings
@tavferry3301
4 жыл бұрын
How is it cruel to not use the horse? Horses do well in the wild and I doubt they think, "You know what would make our lives better? If humans used us." Lol I have respect for the horse because it helped us build our world, but it's not cruel to use them to the extent we did in the past. I doubt horses liked fighting in wars.
@woohooo7634
4 жыл бұрын
@@tavferry3301 Yeah, I think it's fine to keep and ride horses, especially when necessary for survival, but the comment above is just childish and selfish. Kinda disgusting....
@Miranjor
3 жыл бұрын
@@tavferry3301 Actually, this is not true. A lot of biologists believe the horse would be extinct today if it wouldn't have been domesticated. Their digestive system is too sensitive and not efficient enough to compete against ruminant animals.
What's incredible about the Comanche is that they were more than just warriors, they were conquerors. The Great Plains didn't fall to the hands of the Anglo-Americans until the Comanche fell. I highly recommend the novel, Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne. It's a brutal yet incredible story of the last chief of the Comanches and his struggle to hold against the Anglo-Americans and the first Texas Rangers.
@sc666666
2 жыл бұрын
70 more years until we honor germanys march through Poland.
Horses are beautiful creatures I've alwaysed loved them
It’s so sad that these beautiful cultures were almost erased.
@danielmayen6545
4 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL? GET REAL . SAVAGE ANIMALS THEY WERE !
@claudiocarrera9552
4 жыл бұрын
@@danielmayen6545 how are you still alive.
@redxiii3159
4 жыл бұрын
@@danielmayen6545 is that why the U.S adopted 1st Nations laws and constitution??
@blackcitroenlove
4 жыл бұрын
@@danielmayen6545 We had cities and democracy in the Southeast while Europeans had to be taught to bathe when they arrived.
@darionlee5198
4 жыл бұрын
daniel mayen shut up id love to meet our true Americans someday how they’ve loved my people through it all
I read that the native chichimeca tribes in mexico took the horses from the Spanish conquistadors and were the first to ride them during the Chichimeca War 1550-1590.
@danemon8423
2 жыл бұрын
yes i've read that to, and it's true, since the spanish were the first to come to america they also took horses with them and gave some to their native american allies.
@iPhantom287
2 жыл бұрын
@@danemon8423 “Allies”
@toltecways639
2 жыл бұрын
chichimecas would steal them from the Spanish and where the frist native American to ride the horse they believe more in animal spirits than the Aztecs god's that why they were not afraid of the horse. Spanish also said the chichimecas where the best archers in the world and where at war with them for 40 years. the most interesting tribe of the Americas they showed the rest of the native Americans that u can ride the horse
Horses are so beautiful
my respect to all native Americans and my blessing to all native Americans 💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️give them back their land it belongs to them 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
He said as he returned from the fridge with a cold beer and a sandwich. Parked hisself in his easy chair. Clicked mute on his TV remote and picked up his tablet. "Alexis, set the temp at 72."
I have a great respect for any indigenous tribe. ❤ I had an Arabian horse once named Star. She had a star-shaped patch on her forehead, and when my father surprised me with her, we had no clue she was pregnant. I still remember the night she had her colt, and I named him Thunder. They were so close to me and my father. I used to ride her on the beach close to our house on the island. Every time I was with her, I felt such a deep connection to her. Star and Thunder were close to my father, and when we left the island, I saw the sadness in my father to part with them both. ❤ Such majestic creatures! ❤
wow...this vid really makes me cry.....really......a stream of tears is flowing now from my eyes....and I am a "white guy" too..59 winters I have seen now .......but I have a true Native Heart...that lives inside of me....
1:30 Heaven grant that these works of art are preserved from vandalism
@KStack-bj9ps
4 жыл бұрын
No offence intended.. but I've seen more realistic horses drawn by Four year old children so calling those rock carvings art is a bit of an exaggeration
@matthewgantry9998
4 жыл бұрын
Ancient vandalism.
Right now I am studying the Comanche Indians, reading "Empire of the Summer Moon" by S.C. Gwynne. Very interesting so far, alot to consider, and a balanced look!
@ronnieraper7120
3 жыл бұрын
More of the people commenting on this video should actually read that book before they comment...
@tiffanysorenson7774
2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing book!!
@giannirocco7492
2 жыл бұрын
"Empire of the Summer Moon" is,perhaps,the most racist book I have ever read!S.C.Gwynne should be ashamed for all eternity!
@ejedgar5966
2 жыл бұрын
@@giannirocco7492 explain?
@giannirocco7492
2 жыл бұрын
@@ejedgar5966 read the book!
Navajos have a long standing relationship with the Horse aswell. Walk in beauty.
THIS GAVE ME CHILLS EVERYWHERE.
I cried so hard when I heard they slaugteherd the horses. How cruel for these people to loose their little brothers and sisters, their gift from the creator. I understand they surrendered after that. They must have felt broken.
The animation for this episode is absolutely stunning!
May the heart of the Comanche and the horse live in our hearts. Fate and the Creator has brought me here to remember.
The tv series walker texas ranger featured many of comanche stories. I loved them.
The Comanche and the horse were one. Master's of the plane's.
Me watching this at work: Don't cry don't cry don't cry don't cry don't cry
@timmccarthy3034
4 жыл бұрын
Like John Trudell says in a song, "I tell myself that Indians are stoic, that they don't cry, but my eyes, they just LAUGH at me".....Me, I can't stop the stream of tears flowing from my eyes when i see this vid...wow.......I am a "white guy" too ...but carry a Native Heart inside of me.....
@lennysummers6519
4 жыл бұрын
Watches in my room: I cried.
@ImrickJamesbitch-tm2sd
4 жыл бұрын
@@timmccarthy3034 me too brother I am mexican but I cry tears from the soul when watching these documentaries. I too am native by heart.
@jaymiah1408
4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Morales you are native by blood brother do research on your family history with regions and years youl find your tribe you are indigenous to this continent start your journey brother and never be scared or feel wrong to call your self native or indigenous...the mexica or aka Aztec we’re here before 1492 only thing that separates up is the colonial border aho brother ✊🏽
@andresvaldes5568
4 жыл бұрын
@@ImrickJamesbitch-tm2sd Bolivia,Peru,Ecuador & Guatemala have the most Native American people in Latin America. Central Americans & Mexicans are on average between 25 percent to 70% Native American through their Aztec & Maya Blood. Ancestry.com & 23andme proved this look up Central American & Mexican DNA results on KZread. The average central American & Mexican is also between 1-15% black due to the slaves Spain brought to the region. The Whitest Latin Americans are Cubans, Argentines & Uruguayans who receive DNA results of 80-95% Spanish European blood & about 5% Native American DNA
I love my Comanche heritage!
@johncahill4259
4 жыл бұрын
Why? They have a gruesome history.
@iPhantom287
2 жыл бұрын
@@johncahill4259 so do Christians and Catholics. Vikings and Romans. White people in general and people in general lol the way yn iztaixtetl see themselves as heroes is hilarious
THIS TOTALLY BREAKS MY HEART IN A MILLION PIECES !!!!!!!!!
As they state in 2:57 we indians also believe in that horse is also called Shaktiputra hayagriva born by sun it posses spiritual value
To much reality, soap and politics on television now, these are the programs that should be on.
♪ ★BEAUTIFUL SACRED STORIES ♪ ★ THANKS FOR SHARING.
Wow...😍👂 Beautiful language... sounds very Shoshone 😋 Oh wait... it is..😁
Thanks for sharing your story
As an American with some Indian heritage in the background I'm heartened to the plight of all our native people ,and the loss of so much history. I believe we are able to immortalize what is left of that by sharing all that is rembered.
Now I hope to travel to Oklahoma to be there for the Comanche Nation Fair someday!
I learned about Comanche as I started utilizing the Holy Peyote when I was around 18 years old. I have Respect for the Comanche and ther Holy Medicine and the Ways of Whorship. I'm honor to know and have meet some Comanches. Aho
i always loved the HORSE ever since i could read , the very first book i owned was a book on/about horses, now it is also about cows, sheep, goats, chickens, dogs, and gardens but my first love was HORSES
honor and respect
Can I b with Comanche people.i just luv & respect these brave hearts.
Thank you for sharing this story
Comanche nation ❤ I’m Comanche born in Lawton Oklahoma
Very nice video... much respect
Im mexican but i know my brothers the comanche. Fought for our freedom. Long live quana Parker. The last free comanche chief.
This documentary respectfully captures the free spirit and courage of the Comanche but it also contains some exaggerations and omissions that jumped out at me. They show the map of "Comancheria" with accompanying narration that says it extended from the Canadian border to Mexico City, thats a real whopper. I'm sure the Sioux , Cheyenne, and Blackfeet will say otherwise re its northern limits, and I'm sure many a Mexican would be surprised to learn that Comanches raided the Valley of Mexico! They also call the Comanches "Lords of the Plains", but more often Ive heard them called "Lords of the Southern Plains", which is certainly more accurate. Also, the anthropologist walking in the Rio Grande Gorge refers to the Comanches as living "lightly" across the land, like the pictographs he points to, as a metaphor, that are lightly painted on the rock and now fading away. Well yes, they lived lightly off the land, following the buffalo herds, ...that is when they weren't conducting brutal scorched-earth raids on ranches, homesteads and in some cases, entire towns. It is no exaggeration to describe much of Coahuila and Chihuahua in the 1840's as an apocalyptic wasteland. I mean no disrespect in saying this, the Comanche too were brutalized and had every right to fight back, but documentaries like this do a disservice by not telling the whole story. These raids were war crimes, acts of aggression conducted far from the Comanche heartland and inflicted on innocent settlers who had never seen a Comanche before. While we certainly can't single out the Comanche for their total war tactics, especially those of us of European ancestry, we shouldn't pretend that the conflict was completely one-sided either. Nor should we romanticize this chapter of Comanche history as this documentary clearly implies.
I would absolutely love to go meet some Comache people and just ride with them.
Love you saying that I have a great day today
Once the Comanche mastered the horse they began a brutal dominance and extermination of the Apache, Navajo and other southwest tribes. The Apache ran to the Spanish for protection, but to no avail, the Comanche still decimated them. I’m proud of my connection to the Comanche Nation but my heart is saddened for what the tribes did to one another in the old days.
I believe the act of killing the thousand horses was just another attempt at genocide! Also, for those who are hate filled toward Natives, please keep your thoughts to yourself in your tiny, teeny, brain.
@darrenwilson3732
4 жыл бұрын
Right now I am studying the Comanche Indians, reading "Empire of the Summer Moon" by S.C. Gwynne. Very interesting so far, alot to consider, and a balanced look!
@dack575
4 жыл бұрын
So if you were alive back then what do you think would have happened to you in their hands? Or are you the Great Snow Flake so special and immune to the horrors they they dished out?
@gwood701
4 жыл бұрын
Yes Kathy. The video clearly explains that. We didn't need your silly comment from your huge brain that you use so efficiently......NOT
@benniecrawford6876
3 жыл бұрын
@@dack575 what about the horrors your white European ancestors committed on our ancestors. They invaded our land the ancestors fought back bravely and we honor them. It’s only because of their courage that we survive today.We know your savage filthy European history before they invaded here and brought their filth and greed with them so be careful of who you judge.
@benniecrawford6876
3 жыл бұрын
@Marco Terrizzi Lonesome Dove is fiction.
This is why, I’ve argued in the past against people that I prefer horse riding against driving automobiles the car is just pistons and compression and gasses moving down, to defeat one accomplish the obstacle. But horse riding is moving your body rhythm with the horses moving muscles to create one soul, merging with another soul creating a temporary soul consummation. If you’ve never been in a full gallop on horseback, you never lived buddy.
Loved your video about the commances and the horse
🐎Thank you PBS for this interesting and very well made video.👏
Will you guys do a video on the Plains before the horse, maybe cities like Etzanoa? Or are those too recent of discoveries?
Horses 🐎🐎🐎 are the element of Air. My first Gallop was the start of a journey
Greatest horsemen in world
I’m trying to learn more about them due to my family and this’ll help
🤘🤘 excellent
Beautiful video
In reality the horse was inadvertently a gift from the Europeans...
Oh please. The Comanches were actual savages.
The Mandinka word for warrior is “SOFA”. “So” meaning horse, “Fa” meaning Father. It literally translates to father of the horse. Mansa Abubakari Keita II of Mali a Mandinka Empire, is said to have sailed the Atlantic almost 2 centuries before Columbus, not to mention the many voyages sent to explore the edge of the Atlantic from Al-Andalus or Andalusia, which was a state of the Maghreb or The Almoravid Empire. Many cultures could’ve brought horses to America before the Europeans.
@featheramericangoodeagle
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed; I am not quick to give the Euros credit for introducing the horse nation to our people.
@Hussar-bt8sv
5 жыл бұрын
Norseman Leif Erikson had Already been in North america in Year 900 ad
@featheramericangoodeagle
5 жыл бұрын
That's correct, and the Comanche have a nickname, "the beautiful ones" because they have this particular Caucasian lineage in their bloodline.@@Hussar-bt8sv
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Ya'll need to update this vid because archeology found something new about horses
Why isn't this amazing rock art not protected from the elements?
Good stuff ..
The Commanche was the most violent and predatory native American group. They drove the Apache out by slaughtering them, the Souix hated them, Parker murdered dozens of settlers. You can get these facts and more in Empire of the Summer Moon: The Rise and Fall of the Commanche, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History by S. C. Gwynne
@washingtondale
3 жыл бұрын
True - native life was a struggle to survive: horse raiding, genocidal conflict and cannibalism preceded euros in the fossil record. beaten at their own game.
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, all the stone age skills in the world can't equal Sam Colt's little gadget. And that's what it took. Those hard headed rascals liked to have prided themselves to extinction.
@effeojnedib7208
3 жыл бұрын
And I got the facts from my family. I'm a 7th generation Texan, family from West Texas. I'll stick with the Comanche being blood thirsty dogs who preyed upon those who could not defend themselves. They never produced anything to benefit their neighbors, like other Indian tribes. They only murdered ruthlessly.
@iPhantom287
2 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 tlen se kamanalli 🤣
@ferengiprofiteer9145
2 жыл бұрын
@@iPhantom287 I don't share my cake recipes.
Love my Comanche blood
Greatest horse warriors on earth. Sorry cossacks!!!!
The USA still must be held accountable for this brutal genocide. Hopefully when they collapse, there will be some comeuppance
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing unique about what happened here. This is Earth not heaven. Nobody's an angel. You like it better somewhere else, what's keeping you? Or do you want revenge? History shows what that looks like. Keep hate alive, huh bud?
@papabear90
3 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 not revenge. Just karma. The collapse will happen, US struggling to get hold of inflation, can't increase rates, big quagmire.
chichimecas from central Mexico where the frist tribe to ride the horse and introduce it to the rest of the native American tribes to the horse
Let’s remember that when the Comanche first got the horse from the Spaniards(The creator😊), the first thing they did was subjugate and slaughter all the other Native tribes throughout the region. The Sioux did the same when they first got horses from the Spanish and guns from the French, obliterating a number of tribes from Minnesota to the Rockies. Conquest was always engrained in the Natives, but unfortunately for them they only had stone age technology right up until the 20th century. Remember they had never even developed a wheel…….
Nobody on this planet nobody ever used them better!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Off the high horse
How is the USA still not prosecuted by the UN???
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
What did you or I do to be prosecuted for? The American indigenous people, the Australian aborigines, and the African Bush people aren't represented in the UN. It's mainly peopled by folks whose ancestors persecuted our ancestors to the point they decided that anywhere else was better than being around those jerks. The UN's main purpose is to launder our money to the worldwide bureaucracy of parasites. You think they are gonna decouple from our gravy train? Critical thinking doesn't mean look for anything/everything to criticize.
I am disappointed in my ancestors they killed people who owned this land I am very ashamed of myself.
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
You're disappointed in your ancestors that they survived to be your ancestors? Got a grip snowflake. They deserve better than your vintage of whine.
@banditoandy9784
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤡
Very interesting upload...
i wish i was a comanche
@johncahill4259
4 жыл бұрын
Why?
the comanche Came from the Owens Valley. Theres proof they were the Koso People. Did you kno the Eastern Sierra Mono Paiute Are Related to the Bannock Paiute . and bishop Paiute tribe Are Walker river Paiute.WoVoka is our RElation . The Ghost Dance was Started by a Owens Valley Paiute (Wodziwob) from Fish lake. Owens Valley Paiute ARE NORTHERN PAIUTE>
The Comanche torture and brutality of other tribes and later Europeans was beyond imagination. they were vicious beyond belief.
This makes me so sad
Comanche name for "Morning Star" ?
My Indian name is red horse
Waw
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Theres always Two sides to any story . And here it is as was recorded by History Consensus : Link : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_campaign
@intrazel
4 жыл бұрын
I have read every book on the Comanche, specifically the Quahadi, the horses were slaughtered after they destroyed their camps, Mackenzie ordered during the Battle of Palo Duro Canyon that the horses be shot to weaken the Comanche. What is this other side of the story you speak of ?
@effeojnedib7208
3 жыл бұрын
My exact comment.
Hiiii hiiii hiiii 🏹🦊
I forgive all of YOU. First Nation's Texas
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
We don't deserve it any more than you do. Had you First Nations gotten past persecuting each other, you might have done better against the invasion of the persecuted. Not really.😉👍 Y'all never had a chance. There was an endless supply of persecuted headed your way. Still is, if you notice.
Funny that the introduction of the horse in the west was false. Makes you wonder about what was true with this tribe. As a horseman I have full respect to the Comanche but little truth is known about our history and it was recently discovered that horses were around a lot longer in America than people seem to think.
We had the horse long before the Spanish even set foot on our land.
@eCouchPotatoe
4 жыл бұрын
Really? I've recently been told horses were hunted to extinction hundreds of years before the Spanish discovered the new world. May I have a reference? I'd love to look it up.
@richardgiago1700
4 жыл бұрын
Also we could of have not developed such a sophisticated horse culture in such a short amount of time plus the Spanish had strict records of the horses they brought over which were mostly solid colored stallions that were much larger then our horses. Doesn’t make sense how very few stallions and mares can populate our continent in the millions in such a short period of time.
@greghamilton3830
4 жыл бұрын
@@richardgiago1700 300 years is a long time. 200years with a 3.5percent grow rate is enough time to make 10 horses into 10,000. And 3percent is fairly conservative number of what humans have reproduced in the past, including for war, famine, and diseases. Also That's if you dont include any more horse shipped here in those 200 years. And the spanish had different types of horses, different breeds for war, working or endurance riding.
@richardgiago1700
4 жыл бұрын
Greg Hamilton By comparison, in Eurasia the thought of catching and taming horses took thousands of years. An easily accessible Time-Life book, titled First Horseman, by Frank Trippet, describes the reasons why it took thousands of years for people first confronted with horses, to even think of riding them: “The horse’s nature obviously had a lot to do with its initial failure to attract riders. Few men would have been tempted to mount so unpredictable a beast - and fewer still would have been able to stay aboard. (It) had evolved into the most temperamental of all domestic animals, able to elude predators by its sheer speed - the only possible defence on terrain (the Steppe) that offered no place to hide. In body and mind the horse is perfectly designed for flight, not fight. The horse relies on its uncommonly keen eyesight and marvelously acute sense of smell to send it galloping off at any hint of danger. Yet, once trapped, it kicks, bucks, slashes out with its forefeet and bites - often lethally. Also stallions protecting mares and foals will attack.” “Perhaps most important, the untamed horse is naturally likely to go all but beserk when anything lands on its back, simply because it has learned through the millennia that anything is likely to be a predator. Thus, if man had dreamed of riding the horse much earlier than he did, he could hardly have expected a hospitable reception from the animal that one day would become his partner.” (Trippet, 1974:47). Thus Trippet explains why inhabitants of the steppes only began riding about 3,500 B.C., thousands of years after they first appeared on that continent. The same reasons, however, would seem to preclude Prairie Dakotas from being so bold and so skillful, so quickly, not to mention adopting an entirely new horse culture in an exceedingly short time. Yet, another point is even more interesting. It has been argued that Indians had seen Spanish riders, and thus had developed their astonishing equestrian skills, but an example from the Middle East, where a similar situation occurred, shows the time required from the arrival of this “strange beast” into culture, to when its people rode awkwardly for several generations after it first appeared among them, even when experts were there to teach them. “More than a century passed before the Assyrians, learning from more skilled horsemen, like the Scythians, began to feel at home on horseback…For example, Assyrain cavalrymen of the Ninth Century B.C. required aides to ride beside them and manage their mounts so that they would be free to use their weapons.” (Trippet, 1974:51) These examples from other cultures make it difficult to believe that the aboriginal horse had indeed disappeared during the last Ice Age. First, the initial 11 head herd, released in the early XVIth (16th) century, would have had to multiply rapidly in a few years, and to such an extent that horses in sufficient numbers reached the prairies. Then, between that time and at the latest 1650, Dakota/Lakota people would have had to overcome their “mercurial disposition. ” Prince Frederick mentions repeatedly how wild these ponys (sic) were. Then, they would have had to learn to catch horses, tame them, learn to ride, become expert horsemen, devise the best techniques for training their horses in these skills. Compared to the time required by the Assyrians - with expert teachers - and indeed all other Eurasian horse cultures, to develop such accomplishments, the Indian feat seems unbelievable. Trippet (1974:47-48) concluded that: “In light of the horse’s mercurial disposition, its eventual conquest by man seems in many ways a fantastic achievement. ” Even more fantastic, then, is the incredible speed with which a horse culture was developed by the Dakota people. It might, however, be explained if the aboriginal North America horse had survived the Pleistocene, and thus had been part of a long-standing horse culture before the arrival of Europeans, as Dakota/Lakota Elders contend. And, therefore, that they had acquired these skills over the millennia, like their Eurasian counterparts, rather than in the space of one or two generations.
@greghamilton3830
4 жыл бұрын
@@richardgiago1700 problem with tippetts theory is the natives describe how they got the horses. They stole them off the spanish. Tippett has a large imagination to think a horse culture takes millennia to establish. Motor vehicles havent been here for a 100years hardly and we have 3 generations of car enthusiast already.
I am proud of my people, the Comanche. But I am not fooled by the revisionist history. We were just as much conquerors as any of the European. Took lands from too many other tribes to name. But that's okay. It's human history. We just happened to be the last tribe to submit - these horses and our fighting spitrit were the reason.
Theae people have had horses for thousands of years. Comanches have been the only tribe to have them. It is what made them so feared buy all other tribes. Unfortunately this superpower has created a cruel and mean like society. On par with the first thing Europeans witnessed the Aztecs being such a evil Society bloodthirsty
There are more and more doubts about when horses came to America. There is increasing evidence that small horses lived in America BEFORE the Spaniards came ...
The Horses were European Colonziers too
so how did Comanche call themselves, in Comanche language that is?
@hsfox2792
2 жыл бұрын
Numunu which means "The People"
This is wrong actually. Horse was indigenous in South America and were brought up by trade long before settlers came here. Settlers brought more horses but we have always had them. Don’t forget... we have tribes in Peru, Mexico, Canada... there were no borders. All of Turtle Island was connected in trade. Battle too, but what they had we also sometimes had and the same in reverse. It’s just that when the settlers came, more tribes had access more commonly.
the mongols were better horseman
@renehinojosa1962
4 жыл бұрын
You're talking about the time it took the Comanche to adapt the horse and do with it amazing things, literally a very short period. The mongols had the horse much much longer than the Native Americans, time was on their side.
@chrisw353
4 жыл бұрын
@@renehinojosa1962 They Comanche had the amazing ability to shoot 5 arrows in seconds underneath the horses neck while hanging off the side of the horse neck, Super Impressive