The Columbus Enigma: Who Really Was The Legendary Explorer? | Secrets & Lies Of Columbus | Timeline

Was Christopher Columbus born in Genoa, Italy? Most definitely not, say an unlikely collection of experts from European royalty, DNA science, university scholars, even Columbus's own living family. This ground breaking documentary follows a trail of proof to show he might have been much more than we know.
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  • @michaelrobinson1945
    @michaelrobinson19452 жыл бұрын

    When I was in elementary school, we were taught that Columbus was Portugese. In later years he became Italian. Will the real Christofer Columbus please stand up..

  • @alicelenehunter7220

    @alicelenehunter7220

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am grateful for such a time as this; when there are scientists who seek to find and tell the truth to a world that has constantly lied. To protect and elevatereducing the value of others'. Deception has trained our generations while lack of accurate knowledge has kept them a death spiral identity struggles and self-worth doubts.

  • @michaelrobinson1945

    @michaelrobinson1945

    2 жыл бұрын

    He wasn't the first to think the Earth was round. The Norse knew that 500 years earlier.

  • @ManuelRodrigues1024

    @ManuelRodrigues1024

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was portuguese indeed

  • @pop5678eye

    @pop5678eye

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelrobinson1945 Any learned person living in civilizations with navigation knew the Earth was round since Ancient Egypt. In fact the Ancient Greeks even could calculate its circumference to within 5% of the value known today. The reason royals were hesitant to fund Columbus' voyage westward is because they knew about this value and thought Columbus' proposal was suicidal. Columbus thought the world was 1/3rd the size. His voyage to 'India' would indeed have been doomed had the American continent not been in the way.

  • @stacyharris4824

    @stacyharris4824

    2 жыл бұрын

    Columbus was actually a Jew !!

  • @digemsmacks5690
    @digemsmacks56903 жыл бұрын

    What about using oxygen isotopes from Christopher Columbus' teeth? This should be a direct link to the area a very young and growing Columbus grew up in.

  • @lexigrimhaive

    @lexigrimhaive

    3 жыл бұрын

    That seems like a perfectly obvious step to take. I’m just staring the doc. but as far as I know, no one even knows for certain where his body rests.

  • @Colombonovo

    @Colombonovo

    3 жыл бұрын

    We don' have access to Columbus' teeth because Santo Domingo has refused access.

  • @dogfan4lyfe

    @dogfan4lyfe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Colombonovo why not test his brother’s uncontested remains?

  • @Colombonovo

    @Colombonovo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dogfan4lyfe nobody knows exactly what bones belong to who because a full investigation in Santo Domingo and Havanna has not been done to compare with the bones in Seville. - Only the son buried in Seville Catedral is known to be him: www.columbus-book.com

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dogfan4lyfe Because his brother always said and wrote they were genoeses. The show must go on.

  • @thepreacherxi5353
    @thepreacherxi53532 жыл бұрын

    It seems odd to me that the person in question i.e. Christopher Columbus does not want to reveal his identity even on his death bed but here are we are spent so many time, effort, and money to find it.

  • @DMS-pq8

    @DMS-pq8

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe he did and for some reason his sons lied about it

  • @johnwilson5637

    @johnwilson5637

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's highly probable that the sons would have been persecuted by the Spanish had news of his 'treachery' reached them. He may have kept quiet in order to keep them safe.

  • @jimstepro1666

    @jimstepro1666

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was curious about the hidden Identity thing myself. Why, would someone Conceal their Identity? My thoughts, out of Fear? Or, perhaps he was Ashamed of his Actions?

  • @victoriameyers5870

    @victoriameyers5870

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnwilson5637 agree. He never spoke to keep them safe.

  • @DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL

    @DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL

    Ай бұрын

    Jews were expelled from Spain in, you guessed it, 1492, although I think the Ottoman Muslims sent some ships to rescue thousands of Jews from Spain at that time.

  • @christiansoldier77
    @christiansoldier772 жыл бұрын

    I love historical mysteries like this.

  • @jideofor.brightbright4488

    @jideofor.brightbright4488

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you a solider

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Try the Mallorcan theory. First 2 books in English: See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019).

  • @iseejewelz3874
    @iseejewelz38743 жыл бұрын

    Let me guess..... by the end we still won't know anything

  • @TheAbrantino

    @TheAbrantino

    3 жыл бұрын

    You will know about all myths we listen since kids here in Portugal

  • @jkahgdkjhafgsd

    @jkahgdkjhafgsd

    3 жыл бұрын

    We are only 99% sure of the answer

  • @histguy101

    @histguy101

    3 жыл бұрын

    Of course not. Documentaries are just carrots on strings dragging us along.

  • @elainemoreland3908

    @elainemoreland3908

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do not believe much what Italians say not the church!

  • @comdocteur3064

    @comdocteur3064

    3 жыл бұрын

    0

  • @robynw6307
    @robynw63073 жыл бұрын

    So many of these documentaries end with "we are awaiting the results of further testing". Why can't they just wait for the results before finalising the doco? Maybe they don't want to risk a result that would negate the whole doco. Not saying this is the case here or in all docos like this, but it's so frustrating. It's like "let's finish on the same mystery we started with", and maybe we can make another doco in the future.

  • @channelpopsick9319

    @channelpopsick9319

    3 жыл бұрын

    We don’t need the results..The Portuguese have known this for centuries..That Christopher Columbus was Portuguese born and bred..He left clues..He called the first island he found Cuba and all the surrounding islands by the names of towns identically..To the names of towns around Cuba in Portugal..I don’t know if he had a deal with Spain..That the king and queen of Spain would pay for all the ships and all the man power..But part of the deal was to lose his identity as a Portuguese..And to never claim that he was Portuguese under the Spanish crown..Because he kept his part of the deal right to death as he never told his two sons who and where he originally came from..Spain probably told him we will make you admiral you will go in the history books but you could never claim your Portuguese or we will take that all away from you..If that was the case he was still smarter than Spain..He became a spy and gave all the information to the king of Portugal before it even hit spain..Portugal already knew there was land to the west of the Azores in the middle of the Atlantic because they found the Azores in Madeira Islands in 1422..And this thing about Polynesians..Yes maybe they did go to America..And yes maybe the Vikings made it to America to..But none of them colonized or change the World🌎..Like the Europeans..And those Europeans were Portuguese.. The Portuguese found Brazil in the middle 14th century you trying to tell me they didn’t know about north America.. lmaooo Portuguese are smarter than the rest..Everyone else came in second and Third🥉..Like I’ve always said the conspiracy lives on still to this day..Just look and see how they treat Cristiano Ronaldo and how they treat the messI he Spanish speaking It’s still going on to this day.

  • @robynw6307

    @robynw6307

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@channelpopsick9319 Wow. That's a very wordy reply on something that I wasn't disputing. I agree with you that CC was Portuguese. Didn't dispute that in my comment. I was having a go at documentary writers/producers in general, not the content of this documentary specifically.

  • @channelpopsick9319

    @channelpopsick9319

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robynw6307 No offence taken..I agree with you they should’ve done DNA test immediately after the dock..I was thinking while watching it why don’t they take DNA from his sons..But anyways..This is just a tip of the iceberg..The truth has to come out..One way or another it will..And when that is proven it’s gonna open up the floodgates..Of other lies..Historians have always said the victors are the ones who write history..And this is true..But with Internet it has changed everything everybody has access to it..I’ve been reading books for over 30 years and Portuguese Spanish English and Dutch history.. and there’s a lot of fabricated history..But anyways thank you for your conversation..I enjoyed it

  • @robynw6307

    @robynw6307

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@channelpopsick9319 I enjoyed it too.

  • @channelpopsick9319

    @channelpopsick9319

    3 жыл бұрын

    Robyn Webster Listen Robyn You take care of yourself..Right now in the world..There are things that are more important. There are homeless due to the pandemic..Economically financially and most important mental and physical health..But I’ve been waiting for this since I was a kid my father used to tell me..About Christopher ..And I’ve always had an interest in history especially Portuguese history.. four instance that the English found Australia..Portuguese found Australia 240 years before the English.. loll As soon as they put this to bed..And correct the lies in history books..The more we can face the truth in other Subjects of the world..God bless you and Godspeed

  • @gregmaea4337
    @gregmaea43372 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely riveting history. TBC…..look forward to a conclusion. In saying that the evidence and research gathered and presented is absolutely compelling.

  • @cooksmary
    @cooksmary2 жыл бұрын

    I had a phenomenal fourth grade teacher, who taught us that CC was Portuguese. I have always thought this. How interesting. This teacher won no contests for being pleasant, but this woman taught us so much, in public school. Those were the days. The most important thing she did for me was to recommend library books to me, one of which was Maya Angelo's, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings. How did she know this book would touch my heart so?

  • @MauricioJaguan

    @MauricioJaguan

    2 жыл бұрын

    she's one of those angels

  • @marcomolinero5877

    @marcomolinero5877

    2 жыл бұрын

    She should have told you how to spell 'Angelou'.

  • @cosimodirondo972

    @cosimodirondo972

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is the nice teachers we remember.

  • @DavidLee-yu7yz

    @DavidLee-yu7yz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marcomolinero5877 Does it matter!!!

  • @cooksmary

    @cooksmary

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cosimodirondo972 She was not nice, but she was an amazing educator. Maybe she was not nice because she had so much to share with us and just had to do it. LOL

  • @kennedysingh3916
    @kennedysingh39163 жыл бұрын

    I live in Jamaica and some years ago I saw a local documentry about our local Jews who made clames that Columbus was a Jew and one purpose of his voyage was to find countries to resettle Jews. I have visited the Jewish synagogue in Kingston (the capital) and the floor is covered with sand and I was told this is so to remind them of the Spanish Inquisition. From other local historical sores I learn that it was the Jews living in Jamaica piloted the English into Jamaica and organised the Spinish surrender and as a result the were allowed to live freely on the island. Their are many Jamaicans with Jewish ansecery but are not aware.

  • @abdulcelilask7128

    @abdulcelilask7128

    3 жыл бұрын

    Correct 👍

  • @sandraolivacce4559

    @sandraolivacce4559

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because the first Jews were black people. Black people have always been here, others stole our history. Nobody discovered Africa as black people were there already. We should be coming together and demanding that history be retold with the truth.

  • @sgonzo5572

    @sgonzo5572

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sandraolivacce4559 no

  • @sandraolivacce4559

    @sandraolivacce4559

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sgonzo5572 why not

  • @sgonzo5572

    @sgonzo5572

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sandraolivacce4559 because dna evidence doesn't support that theory.

  • @nickerson1898
    @nickerson18982 жыл бұрын

    I live on the south tip of nova scotia, all those explorers sailed right by 100s of years ago...pretty cool. and thank you for uploading.

  • @blainedesjarlais3137

    @blainedesjarlais3137

    2 жыл бұрын

    I live in Richmond, BC. CANADA in Steveston Village where they also have sailed and left landmarks..

  • @melikama

    @melikama

    2 жыл бұрын

    The portuguese fishermen had long traversed the grand banks, just as the Macassans had fished trepang off the northern coast of Australia, dating back at least four hundred years. Portugal, during the age of exploration, was highly secretive, regarding it's discoveries, such as (some believe) that of the east coast of Australia, in the 1520's. This hemisphere had been 'granted' by the Pope, to Spain. Portugal could not risk war with Spain, or to have them seize Portuguese territory. Official history, has always consisted of smoke and mirrors; and more so today, with computer technology designed to obscure the facts. There has only ever existed one legitimate source of truth on this earth; against which, all things (esp. the Person in the mirror) can accurately be measured. Ecclesiastes 12:11-14.

  • @katmandudawn8417
    @katmandudawn84172 жыл бұрын

    I would think that the fact that Columbus’s own sons did not know the truth of their origins says a lot. There were questions even during his life that he would not clarify. To me that means any obvious answer can’t be right or he would have admitted it. Many Jewish families at the time “converted” but quietly continued to practice their private observances. Later generations had no idea these little rituals were Jewish traditions.

  • @stevenrowlandson4258

    @stevenrowlandson4258

    2 жыл бұрын

    The term Jewish is highly misleading as many foolishly believe the lie that it refers to a religion instead of race and nationality.

  • @katmandudawn8417

    @katmandudawn8417

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenrowlandson4258 I once asked a Rabi about that since I was confused. How can you convert to something that is also traced through your blood? He said it was both a bloodline and a religion. I guess that’s an answer. I figure in today’s world, those who consider themselves Jewish are Jewish and those who don’t, aren’t. Even with the modern ability to trace your ancestry, who you are has more to do with your choices and actions than some dot on a map your great great grandpappy came from. I would hope that this historic fixation with religious segregation would eventually end. It’s doesn’t matter how you say your prayers any more than what you do in your bedroom. Here’s a fun fact, the reason that Jews tended to be bankers, jewelers, money lenders, doctors etc. was that Medieval European law forbade them from owning land. They had to have businesses that they could pack up and run with if the neighbors got stupid. They were forced into those fields and then blamed for the power it gave them over the Christians population. It’s funny to me how a staunch Catholic is considered devout but a observant Jew is nefarious and suspect by the ignorant. Individuals are just that, individual. The sooner we stop viewing groups as uniform, the better society will be.

  • @aliciao.5731

    @aliciao.5731

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@katmandudawn8417 excellent observations.

  • @vkngwmn6636

    @vkngwmn6636

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aliciao.5731 yea...not really...p.c. opinions

  • @vkngwmn6636

    @vkngwmn6636

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@katmandudawn8417 you're simple

  • @racheldoesacrylic4089
    @racheldoesacrylic4089 Жыл бұрын

    Is it not great to live in a time when we can find out so much? and also find out by doing our own research what facts may be be not quite as they seem, when i think back to school circa 1970s i didn't learn anything compared to now. i think schooling is way more fun when your older and actually want to learn hahah / thanks for vid x

  • @teeteringonthebrink.305

    @teeteringonthebrink.305

    Жыл бұрын

    I know what you mean. When you find something fascinating, you want to learn as much about it as you can. And it can be a subject that you had absolutely no interest in while at school. I believe we appreciate things more when we're older, untroubled by the inconsequential fads and fashions of our younger days.

  • @___JB

    @___JB

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol..i have learned more in the last 16 months than i learned in my 31 years prior so i agree

  • @RocCityHebrew585

    @RocCityHebrew585

    Жыл бұрын

    History is lies. It was done to whitewash everything and to steal the history, identity, culture, language of the black man (the true israelites.)

  • @bankheadbamm1383

    @bankheadbamm1383

    Жыл бұрын

    So much bill 💩

  • @white_box_gallery2113
    @white_box_gallery21133 жыл бұрын

    History has to be checked all the time...in the past several thousand years, access to true information was not available to all and literacy became widely accessible only in the past 2 centuries. History has been written by the victors and often by book burnings, humankind lost lots of information about previous era.

  • @mcbusinessmonkey

    @mcbusinessmonkey

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's right. 'Christopher Columbus' is a completely fictitious character. The name means ' Christian Missionary's. It's a small part of Scallager's b.s. new world time line, paid for by the Vatican in the fifteenth century. Absolute rubbish, written by the victors.

  • @iamwisdomfaye1192

    @iamwisdomfaye1192

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! He who conquers controls the narrative

  • @iindavanderheyden3552

    @iindavanderheyden3552

    3 жыл бұрын

    this is why when I was a kid in high school I had an issue with my history teacher... he was telling something at one point in class..so I asked him questions....his answer was: its in de books!!! ... I said so if it is printed in a book then it means its the trueth? ....He got so mad at me... 30 minutes later I was at the principal"s Office..... I had a big mouth so got suspended.....I come from Holland we have a quote here: in the land where everybody is blind the man with one eye can see everything

  • @webthing2046

    @webthing2046

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I heard he didnt discover America

  • @keyos1955

    @keyos1955

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​ @Luso515PorTuoGraal No doubts about the fact that he was Italian. The most important proof is the attestation retained at the historical archive of Madrid: "con sus genealogías correspondientes, conservado en el archivo secreto de la Orden y que, comenzando en el año de 1500, dice: AÑO 1535 Genealogía de don Diego Colón, natural de Santo Domingo. PADRES D. Diego Colón, virrey de las Indias del mar Océano, y doña María de Toledo. ABUELOS PATERNOS Christóbal Colón, natural de Saona cerca de Génova, y doña Felipa Moniz, natural de Lisboa." These are the words of the International University of Andalucia about this document: "Las confesiones de los informantes constituyen pruebas irrevocables. En su calidad de testimonios jurados, y por tanto de superior valor a las crónicas, albergan la particularidad de provenir de personas seleccionadas y autorizadas por el Tribunal del Consejo de las Órdenes para demostrar la legitimidad y nobleza, lo que habitualmente se conoce como “pruebas de sangre”, que fueron presentados por la familia más próxima al Descubridor y, por tanto, autorizados por los Colón para probar la legítima ascendencia del aspirante a caballero" This is the file: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/72021024.pdf

  • @heatherygraine5836
    @heatherygraine58362 жыл бұрын

    I would compare him which another very mysterious character: Shakespeare. Both claimed this humble origin and I believe it is not true of either.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @colmmeade1824

    @colmmeade1824

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a very interesting doç bout Christopher Columbus

  • @alcoholfree6381
    @alcoholfree63812 жыл бұрын

    “Secret agent man, secret agent man; we’ve given you a number and taken away your name!” CC=001?? License to explore and grab gold.

  • @alexc.c.4025

    @alexc.c.4025

    2 жыл бұрын

    D.E.V.O

  • @vitorcosta5783
    @vitorcosta57832 жыл бұрын

    Now how would a Italian man born of a poor genoan family be granted an audience the 2 most powerful and influential royal families in Europe at the time, that to me is enough, he was either Portuguese or Spanish, most likely Portuguese considering Portugal were at the forefront of navigation, Italy was far from an explorative nation, that honour was solely in Portugals and Spains hands

  • @JohnSmith-rw8uh

    @JohnSmith-rw8uh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Italians were good navigators, Columbus and Amerigo Vespucci.

  • @mauriziodirosa6411

    @mauriziodirosa6411

    2 жыл бұрын

    Genova è stata una grande repubblica marinara insieme Pisa Venezia e Amalfi grande tradizione marinara , gente di grandi navigatori

  • @realramone3455

    @realramone3455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-rw8uh A voluntary ignorant, you are. Italians couldn't navigate on the open sea like the portuguese did, they lacked navigation proficency, skills and technology. Italians could only navigate in the mediterranean. Columbus was portuguese

  • @realramone3455

    @realramone3455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mauriziodirosa6411 But only in the mediterranean, not on open sea like the portuguese...

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-rw8uh Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, I think, not a Colombo from Genoa. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @johnleckieWATP
    @johnleckieWATP3 жыл бұрын

    Somebody says something = Tick for confirmation, the new way historians come to "truth"?

  • @stefangabor5985
    @stefangabor59853 жыл бұрын

    It makes perfect sense; I have always wondered how a poor Italian had access to Portuguese royalty. In order to trust someone with that kind of money for the expedition he, himself, had to be well known and most importantly for that period, wealthy. Same things apply today. If someone goes to the bank without a penny and ask for 100,000 dollars loan for some sort of expedition would he get it?

  • @connorcolquhou5845

    @connorcolquhou5845

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone willing to do that got to do it everyone was afraid of falling off the side of the world. Plus you would rather send someone expendable than someone of value. It was a massive achievement for Spain, Spain could afford to pay handsomely . We haveverutungbbgtimnbbbi

  • @lxportugal9343

    @lxportugal9343

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@connorcolquhou5845 No man no.... He married the daughter of a noble family.... that was not possible at that time unless you were noble as well

  • @quickchris10

    @quickchris10

    3 жыл бұрын

    A good salesman could sell a loan officer on it if he had co-signers.

  • @fredtorres1703

    @fredtorres1703

    2 жыл бұрын

    $100,000.00? More like several million...your comment is logical...

  • @enricomanno8434

    @enricomanno8434

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Colombo family used to own feuds in Cuccaro but they losted.. Sure wasn't from a poor family... he fout the Moriscos as a captain of the Spanish kings in 1492

  • @csbalachandran
    @csbalachandran23 күн бұрын

    Brilliantly made and presented forensic history and geography. Thank you for sharing this documentary. Kudos to all concerned!

  • @glenfordburrell2133
    @glenfordburrell21332 жыл бұрын

    His Jewish ancestry is probably true because there are many Jewish cemeteries in and around Jamaica. My Grandfather is buried Falmouth, Jamaica of which is a Jewish Cemetery. In the hamlet of Kettering, Jamaica a Cable and Wireless mobile transmitter had been installed over the burial site of his brother, Robert. East of St. Ann's, Jamaica, I stumbled upon a well that was built by the crew of members of one of his ships. I think it was La Nina. The locals, at the time were very upset because a German salvage team had discovered it's wreckage and had hauled up it's many treasures in return for 200 Mercedes buses - which didn't materialise! We must remember that Columbus never ever set foot on what we call present day America but he did live in Jamaica for over two years in and around Discovery Bay, Jamaica.

  • @diegoapalategui579

    @diegoapalategui579

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude it was a Spaish expedition, he did not decide who was in the crew

  • @johntabuchi6831

    @johntabuchi6831

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Germans and the jews are the same people Ashkenazi they had rights to it .

  • @luanaspa4400

    @luanaspa4400

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, many Jews fled to Jamaica to escape Spain's persecution for not converting to Catholicism, the religion that Revelation refers to as the harlot of Babylon and who are now wanting to bring in the one world religion to go along with the NWO.

  • @freehermanjose5816

    @freehermanjose5816

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johntabuchi6831 IQ, where are you?... 🥱

  • @mrbaab5932

    @mrbaab5932

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johntabuchi6831 Askenazi Jews are about 55% Middle Eastern and about 45% Eastern and Central European. So Ashkenazi Jews are part German. Most of the Portuguese and Spanish Jews back then were Sephardic Jews from North Africa.

  • @sophiemarcaurele
    @sophiemarcaurele3 жыл бұрын

    How regal and unassuming is the Portuguese duke? I’d love to be a tea guest and listen to this gentleman’s stories all afternoon 🤗 🎩 🍵 👑

  • @edoedo8686

    @edoedo8686

    3 жыл бұрын

    En serio si....

  • @talkintequila483
    @talkintequila4833 жыл бұрын

    If 4 of his grandchildren were buried in a tomb at the family’s church, why the heck couldn’t they extract DNA from them instead? Am I listening wrong or what?

  • @jjones8813

    @jjones8813

    3 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly. Great (Jones) minds think alike.

  • @anasan00

    @anasan00

    3 жыл бұрын

    He had lovers ....etc

  • @terintiaflavius3349

    @terintiaflavius3349

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would assume that they would have to get permission from either living descendants or from the authorities.

  • @boxerfencer

    @boxerfencer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Columbus' DNA is not the issue. There are many descendants alive today, who can provide DNA. The issue was tying the Columbus DNA to Portuguese aristocracy, to figure out if his paternal parentage was indeed the duke mentioned in the documentary.

  • @Kakatawaga

    @Kakatawaga

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@boxerfencer Exactly.

  • @mnpd3
    @mnpd32 жыл бұрын

    I'm in my 70's. Our education about Columbus in grade school was that he was a great explorer. His rep has changed to a rap.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Not everybody will take the chances he did. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @stephaniecrow7387
    @stephaniecrow73872 жыл бұрын

    HISTORY IS ALWAYS CHANGING, AS WE DISCOVER NEW TRUTHS

  • @brittanyferera5177

    @brittanyferera5177

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially since so much has intentionally been hidden from mankind!

  • @jimstepro1666

    @jimstepro1666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Something I found interesting. Break down your first Word, His-story. What made me think of telling you this, another Word you used. Truth I don't believe, it's merely a grammatical coincidence. History. His-story. The Lies of History, as we are Told, we are even warned, that these are Lies. A Story... Peace

  • @theresabraddock9310
    @theresabraddock93103 жыл бұрын

    very fascinating video thank you!

  • @MSPUKIMOLIELIE
    @MSPUKIMOLIELIE3 жыл бұрын

    How can land be discovered by another, when others already lived there?

  • @lxportugal9343

    @lxportugal9343

    3 жыл бұрын

    if you discover your keys, weren't they already there?

  • @shanicebrown1585

    @shanicebrown1585

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good question

  • @zoebaggins90

    @zoebaggins90

    3 жыл бұрын

    Discovered by the rest of the world.

  • @cheesygoodness5415

    @cheesygoodness5415

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you and your friend knows about a thing and you put pictures on the net, it will be discovered by the rest of the world.

  • @illuminahde

    @illuminahde

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a silly comment trying to virtual signal

  • @nedmancini6843
    @nedmancini68432 жыл бұрын

    Excellent documentary. It left me convinced that C.C. is definetly Portuguese. The Cuba connection makes it very clear.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin .

  • @brokentricorder4621
    @brokentricorder46212 жыл бұрын

    In each region I went to elementary school in, their books said he arrived their first. They all had different stories.

  • @ralfsxm851

    @ralfsxm851

    2 жыл бұрын

    They all made it up

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems everybody wants a piece of the pie. I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in eng.

  • @Ditka-89
    @Ditka-893 жыл бұрын

    Say what you want about Columbus, but it took some serious balls to sail thousands of miles into the abyss without knowing whether they would reach land

  • @viderevero1338

    @viderevero1338

    3 жыл бұрын

    He really didn’t, he knew that there was likely something there, but believed it to be India.

  • @JoseReyes-zw3tn

    @JoseReyes-zw3tn

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a lie. And your children eat those lies up and don't know shiii about actual human history events. Cilvilization probably existed before the caucasian race evolved

  • @canadianmmaguy7511

    @canadianmmaguy7511

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@viderevero1338 you don't think henry Sinclair coming to nova scotia with the vinland maps in the 1400s and colombus's templar flag on his ships might be connected?

  • @joxepojoxepin2752

    @joxepojoxepin2752

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JoseReyes-zw3tn what are you talking about? What's a lie?

  • @rocioaguilera3555

    @rocioaguilera3555

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stoney332 Colón, yes, but not most of the crue.

  • @tb1534
    @tb15343 жыл бұрын

    Some of these comments just make me shake my head. But I am glad we have documentaries like this.

  • @pearlfeather9326

    @pearlfeather9326

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why is your head shaking??

  • @fishofgold6553

    @fishofgold6553

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which comments are you referring to?

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably from what is now the North East coast of Spain. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @tinkerstrade3553
    @tinkerstrade35532 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps I have forgotten a few things at 70, but I distinctly remember being taught that Columbus was a Portuguese sailor that lived in Itlay, but because of wars couldn't obtain funding from the king for his voyage. He then turned to Spain and Queen Isabella. Did I believe this story? Well, even in grade school I knew enough to disbelieve the part about her hocking her jewels to bestow money on this lowly sailor. And being Native American, I am always leary of tales twice told. Though it is counterintuitive, the past is easier to mold than the future.

  • @786humaira1

    @786humaira1

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said my Native American brother : PASTis easier to mold than the future .

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in eng.

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger13422 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @Delisingz
    @Delisingz3 жыл бұрын

    Did I just waste an hour of my life and am right back where I started?

  • @LimaGolf284th
    @LimaGolf284th3 жыл бұрын

    Very stimulating, thank you.

  • @jessickalush3305

    @jessickalush3305

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like being stimulated

  • @diankreczmer6595
    @diankreczmer65952 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating ! Thank you!

  • @kathleenklein4231
    @kathleenklein4231 Жыл бұрын

    One of my Hebrew school teachers said that there was Hebrew in CC's writing. I believe it was the Hebrew abbreviation ב״ה which is often written on top of pages. It means "with the help of G-d". If he is descended from a Jewish mother, who could blame him for not telling anyone this. Both CC and his son's lived at the time of the Spanish Inquisition. You could die if you were Jewish and didn't 100% convert.

  • @brothertonywoullard3272

    @brothertonywoullard3272

    Жыл бұрын

    Google dum diverses should help fill in some blanks 100% behind you though

  • @michellelafaye2721

    @michellelafaye2721

    Жыл бұрын

    Hebrew also uses math embedded within the language. All three of the Abrahamic religions have slaughtered non believers as a part of their doctrine. Non Catholic Christians have been an exception. Nearly all other Nations have basically been Theocratic and intolerant of individual choices.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). Mallorcan theory--lots of Jewish Colombs there, map makers, etc.

  • @savvageorge

    @savvageorge

    Жыл бұрын

    Also many Jews became Christians voluntarily. This was actually how Christianity was created during Roman times. Semitic people were the most advanced sailors in the ancient world so it's very likely that most Christian sailors have Jewish decent.

  • @jimmythe-gent

    @jimmythe-gent

    Жыл бұрын

    @@savvageorge You mean Arabs, Egyptians and Aryans?

  • @rosemariepetersen4467
    @rosemariepetersen44672 жыл бұрын

    WOW!!!! That was super interesting. History is just the most fascinating thing. If Christopher Colombia was truly an undercover agent then I recommend that all undercover agents take a lesson from him, ….we still don’t even know…..

  • @everthcruz788

    @everthcruz788

    2 жыл бұрын

    And you think James Bond 007 is a good secret agent Check out Columbus 007 he did that stuff 500 years ago

  • @davidmrodriguez8067

    @davidmrodriguez8067

    2 жыл бұрын

    "I pray to God to give you a lot of beautiful days and I hope God bless you to have a great day, I'm David by name from Overbrook Philadelphia and you where are you from?

  • @RonaldMcPaul
    @RonaldMcPaul3 жыл бұрын

    That epic Columbus family acting in the intro brought me to tears /s

  • @chewy7192

    @chewy7192

    3 жыл бұрын

    What could possibly make you cry in that scene? Nothing wrong with crying but crying over nothing at all or even less like a few bad actors in a 2 min clip. Why did you post that?

  • @adrianalainez8499

    @adrianalainez8499

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chewy7192 get over it.

  • @ana-OM

    @ana-OM

    3 жыл бұрын

    Laughing tears 😂😂😂

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    3 жыл бұрын

    That scene never happened in the reality. The secret of the Columbus family was not the origin, but the profession (pirates, antispanish, pro-portuguese corsairs). Italian archives are full of documents about it and spanish too. Nobody doubted about the nationality of Columbus before the XIXth century (XIXth and XXth centuries were those of nationalism).

  • @intheforest7482

    @intheforest7482

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chewy7192 I think he was just saying how hilarious the acting was. It was truly horrific 😂

  • @LondonSambaDancerBellydancer
    @LondonSambaDancerBellydancer2 жыл бұрын

    Great eye-opener Thanks for this research!

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

  • @ragantate3995
    @ragantate39952 жыл бұрын

    they know exactly who his sons are and his grand daughters so there’s no reason for this film to end the way it did. Dna testing is definitely a possibility. I’m not buying the circles of distraction.

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim

    @Just_Call_Me_Tim

    2 жыл бұрын

    Remember when they showed the endoscope footage? It teetered over the inside ledge for only a moment and was pulled back, the the rewind looked as if the camera was trying to autofocus on something too close to it. It’s inconclusive at best, at worse was just done for show. Seems like a lot of ‘nothing’ being accomplished here.

  • @betsymuller4225

    @betsymuller4225

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Just_Call_Me_Tim ki

  • @Mameli20030

    @Mameli20030

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just can’t stop laughing…

  • @donakahorse

    @donakahorse

    2 жыл бұрын

    welcome to the world of click bait documentaries. I click because I want to know, I leave before my view monetizes it because they say nothing new, and draw no real conclusions

  • @absoliutenuds

    @absoliutenuds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah how would they make a controversial or unclear video if they gave us the facts

  • @this482
    @this4823 жыл бұрын

    This is why I am reading "Kingdom Road : Volume 1" by Michael Walker

  • @yarrowwitch

    @yarrowwitch

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it good? Looking for decent reads at the moment to spend an Amazon card on.

  • @budsyremo

    @budsyremo

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is it about?

  • @ayeshasyed1899
    @ayeshasyed18992 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating, please do a part 2 when more evidence comes to light.

  • @jc9724

    @jc9724

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can find that "evidence" after the America destroying Left makes it up.

  • @helenshg4580

    @helenshg4580

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jc9724 The left is definitely in control. Conservatives are behaving like prosessionary caterpillars that follow a leader. If the caterpillars are placed in a round barrel, they will follow the leader in a circle inside the barrel until they die of starvation. I am a conservative. We need to start using our brains & start counteracting problems, & forming a new culture. Conservatives are in really bad shape right now.

  • @realramone3455

    @realramone3455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @L.aE.cH. Empire Boring...

  • @colmmeade1824

    @colmmeade1824

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes exceptionally well narration

  • @AngryNegativeHistoryProject

    @AngryNegativeHistoryProject

    10 ай бұрын

    Let me know next time you waste my time

  • @georgecuyler7563
    @georgecuyler75632 жыл бұрын

    According our Turtle Islanders stories we found these strange boats and strange people adrift on the seas, they were extremely sick with scurvy and had to be nursed back to health.

  • @frenchartantiquesparis424
    @frenchartantiquesparis4242 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating.....! Love from Porto, Portugal

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo3 жыл бұрын

    It's difficult to read a documentary but that's what is needed to get through this one.

  • @SuCzar
    @SuCzar3 жыл бұрын

    46 minutes in and I've yet to see evidence of anything anywhere. What is this, ancient aliens?

  • @digemsmacks5690

    @digemsmacks5690

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anicient Astronaut theorists say...YES!

  • @MMK86

    @MMK86

    3 жыл бұрын

    @SuCzar "the answer, is unequivocally YES!" .... LOL

  • @Colombonovo

    @Colombonovo

    3 жыл бұрын

    you get more details here: www.Columbus-Book.com

  • @davidvincent6149

    @davidvincent6149

    3 жыл бұрын

    SuCzar: EXCELLENT!

  • @roryjones95

    @roryjones95

    3 жыл бұрын

    What are you looking for a note by the man himself confirming it?

  • @robertawilkes6531
    @robertawilkes65312 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting Closed Captioning would have been helpful

  • @hectorlopez4365
    @hectorlopez4365 Жыл бұрын

    Read a book on Puerto Rican history in which it is stated that Columbus sons were governors of PuertoRico. Colon(Columbus)is a very prevalent name in PuertoRico.His two sons married Indian women in PuertoRico. Héctor López

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds right. According to what I know, they would be descendents of a Jewish grandmother and an aristocratic grandfather related to King Fernando of Spain. . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

  • @michellejacobs5072
    @michellejacobs50723 жыл бұрын

    Hummmmmmm Just found out I’m Portuguese French Spanish Congo and my last name Colon

  • @michaelgeraci8120
    @michaelgeraci81203 жыл бұрын

    "Zarco" (the surname of Christopher Columbus' mother) is found in the province of Liguria, Italy, in a small town right outside of Genoa. Perhaps his father was the Portuguese prince and his mother was from a Sephardic Jewish family that settled in Liguria, Italy?

  • @thomas25082

    @thomas25082

    3 жыл бұрын

    His plot was to find gold it was in the Philippines

  • @Manuel1974PT

    @Manuel1974PT

    3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @yanf525

    @yanf525

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s what they are saying and I believed them.

  • @boxerfencer

    @boxerfencer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, but would one of Columbus' sons, who went 3 times to Genoa and found nothing, missed that?

  • @Loranzojose2000

    @Loranzojose2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    According to the Real Academia Española, Zarco is a common Hispanic name which comes from the Hispano-Arabic zárqa , related to the classic Arab zarqā, which means 'one that has blue eyes'.

  • @darkisland04
    @darkisland042 жыл бұрын

    I have Simon Wiesenthal's book on Columbus's Jewish background. He points out a number of indications that Columbus was from a Portuguese Converso family, and shows that most of his sailors were also of Jewish background. If he was also a Templar, that would be very interesting, since there is a great deal of archaeological and documentary evidence that the Templars had trading settlement in North America (Nova Scotia and other places) for at least 100 years before his voyage.

  • @matthoward7645

    @matthoward7645

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please provide links for the vast amount of proof of this.....................

  • @matthoward7645

    @matthoward7645

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigbywolf586 if people wanna say there is a massive dearth of evidence then I'd like the links and proof, pretty standard thing to do diphead

  • @maxsterling8203

    @maxsterling8203

    2 жыл бұрын

    With regard to Columbus’s possible ties to the Templars. Would that be the medieval Templars or the Knights Templars or the Masonic Templars or am I positing their connection/non connection at the risk of answering the question who was Columbus really ? Help! 🫠 this is extremely fascinating

  • @matthoward7645

    @matthoward7645

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxsterling8203 this is why I asked for links 🤣 I wanna see the source material

  • @maxsterling8203

    @maxsterling8203

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@matthoward7645 crickets till now yeah yeah I am speculating, but his (Columbus) secrecy at his time of death could be a clue. Basically , it’s just as possible that the formation of a unique brand of nomadic order as internationally (@bigby wolf) unintentional (being a nation state wasn’t the original orders intention) as it may have been was eventually subject to monarchy’s political ideation alongside empirical evidence it is called hi|s|tory. the penultimate of the napoleon complex.

  • @DaleDirt
    @DaleDirt2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the Clarification .

  • @coreyweber2340
    @coreyweber23403 жыл бұрын

    Those performances from the "sons"...priceless

  • @vsstdtbs3705
    @vsstdtbs37053 жыл бұрын

    Gave up at 3:51 because of the music. Wanted a documentary, not drama.

  • @atate23

    @atate23

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cry baby

  • @michelnowe7783
    @michelnowe77832 жыл бұрын

    At thetime of Columbus, there were different places called Cuba. 1) - There is a village in the Aragon region of Spain that is called "La Cuba" on the river "río de la Cuba" also called "río de las Albaredas". This village existed already in the 13th century (1*) - In La Cuba thereis a festival of Saint Christopher “Fiestas de San Cristóbal El sábado, a las 12 de la noche, se corre un toro embolado en la plaza delpueblo. El domingo, a las 12 del mediodía, se celebra una misa en la Ermita deSan Cristóbal por el Obispo de Barbastro-Monzón e hijo de la Cuba, Alfonso...” (1**) - I didn't find the origin of the name of this "La Cuba" 2) in Sicily. The Cuba Palace is situated in theCuba-Calatafimi part of Palermo. Cuba comes from the Arabic name Qubba, "dome") (2*) 3) In Sicily there are “cuba churches”. There are several hypotheses about the origin of the name “cuba” for those churches. Cuba could come from the Arabic word kubba (pit, deposit) or qubba (dome). (3*) 4) Cuba in Portugal According to the English page of Wikipedia about the Portugese Cuba, the name of this "Cuba" is likely of Arabicorigin, pertaining to the qubba, that is "tombs", of asceticspiritual leaders. Such toponyms are frequent in Southern Portugal and likelyrelated to the Sufi movements that flourished during the period of Almoraviddecay, such as the one led by Ibn Qasi. (1*) See the wikipedia page in Aragonese about “La Cuba” “En chinero de 1241 los templers atorgoron carta de población a 30 habitadors de La Cuba. Lo 28 de setiembre de 1493 s'amollonó la partida de la Umbría d'el Rebollar,que s'entregaba a Mirambel." (1**) Source wikipedia page “La Cuba” in Spanish. (2*) See the page "Palazzo della Cuba" of the Italian version ofwikipedia. (3*) See the page "Cuba bizantina" on the Italian version of wikipedia.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    ¿Qué es un toro embolado? I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin .

  • @cindybogart6062
    @cindybogart60622 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this fascinating story of Columbus. I’ve always been interested in this man. I know a lot of work went into this by so many people. Everything I have learned here makes so much sense. I was taught in college that he was Português. I can’t wait to go to Spain & Portugal this coming year. So much history that we have learned is wrong & no one wants to change the narrative.

  • @pamelamorris3148

    @pamelamorris3148

    2 жыл бұрын

    What year did you go to college as these would be interesting to know since most books have him from Genoa.

  • @cindybogart6062

    @cindybogart6062

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pamelamorris3148 I was in college in the late 80s & again in the mid 90s

  • @imo1933

    @imo1933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pamelamorris3148 : *This is old news, it's been widely known that Columbus was Portugues for decades now.*

  • @rosehurlston4113

    @rosehurlston4113

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @richard526

    @richard526

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pamelamorris3148 most books are wrong , many of todays history books as used in the US serve modern days agendas. I would suggest that in any subject that interest you go beyond your high school books and do research.

  • @maegary439
    @maegary4393 жыл бұрын

    What difference do any of this make at the end of the day he didn't discover anything other then another land mass with people already living there.

  • @beatrixbrennan1545

    @beatrixbrennan1545

    3 жыл бұрын

    He discovered it for the Europeans, which then made it the new world. That is why it is important. You know, the most rich and powerful country in the world.... that was founded by Europeans whos way was paved by Columbus's discovery???

  • @arri1254
    @arri12543 жыл бұрын

    DON T WATCH THIS, the question just drags on and on and on. at the end nothing conclusive, just the same questions repeating again and again. I like TIMELINE and some of their programs are to say the least: Insightfull, well documented. Exquisite! but this one, bad...Read most coments and you will find they are in the same line.

  • @meanmistermustard2485

    @meanmistermustard2485

    3 жыл бұрын

    was about to watch this... THANKS for saving me an hour of my life. will watch another docu instead of this.

  • @ryanvelez6762

    @ryanvelez6762

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmaoo thank you

  • @lisamckennon3025

    @lisamckennon3025

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanx for saving me an hour!!

  • @carldacosta3184

    @carldacosta3184

    3 жыл бұрын

    You don't like the well documented conclusions that is all. NOT GENOVESE!!

  • @historyonthego

    @historyonthego

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why would you say that 🤔This program gave so much. it's quite obvious that he was not Italian. He didn't even speak the language and he named Cuba after a Portuguese Town, he also named the surrounding Island from the names of surrounding town in Portugal. I thought it strange as a little kid that a on know person could get backing from a King and Queen, that's strange. Also he got backing from Jewish people for the voyages. Why also didn't he even reveal his true identity to his children. This was very good program . There is going to be doubt because people expect to get 100% proof. But the proof he is Portuguese is much more valid. There is no proof he is Italian other than we were told so in school. That is crazy how we just end up believing without a thread of evidence.

  • @benjaminwachold3736
    @benjaminwachold37362 жыл бұрын

    I was taught in school that Christoper Columbus was Portuguese and his voyages were in service of the King and Queen of Spain.

  • @hippiedachshunds1632

    @hippiedachshunds1632

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where did you attend school?

  • @michaelrobinson1945

    @michaelrobinson1945

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hippiedachshunds1632 We were taught the same thing in the '50's.

  • @jeanlundi2141

    @jeanlundi2141

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelrobinson1945 Where are you from?

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Europeans think Portugues, Americans Italian. I think Catalán. . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

  • @someonethatwatchesyoutube2953
    @someonethatwatchesyoutube29532 жыл бұрын

    “HE IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!” “AND WE LET HIM OFF THE HOOK!”

  • @davidhollingsworth1723
    @davidhollingsworth17233 жыл бұрын

    The city of Calvi in Corsica has a statue of Columbus claiming he was born there. At this time Corsica was a part of Genova. It was not until the 18th Century that the Corsicans were able to break away from the City State of Genova. There is also a town in Catalonia named Colom that claims Cristobal Colon as their native son. All this other stuff that I just saw is new to me. I might add that at this time Columbus was in danger of being accused of heresy by the Church because of his beliefs on the subject of getting to India by way of the Atlantic. He had the full backing of Queen Isabella because he promised her that this area would be fertile ground for new converts. The whole thing is interesting.

  • @loreforone924

    @loreforone924

    2 жыл бұрын

    MARXIST rewrite history.

  • @tomchirillo1663

    @tomchirillo1663

    Жыл бұрын

    Corsica did not "break away" but was sold by Genoa to France.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. Costa-Amic was a reputable refugee from the Spanish dictatorship who lived many years in Mexico. I read his book and found it very convincing.

  • @TheMrcassina
    @TheMrcassina3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair you should also interviewed an Italian historian

  • @saynotohookups

    @saynotohookups

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be interesting.

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@saynotohookups No inteviews are necessaries. In Italy we know very well that his contemporaries who knew him personally described Columbus as Ligurian. See the case of Pietro Martire d'Anghiera, an Italian in the service of Spain and member of the "Consejo de las Indias", who wrote this immediately (may 1493), in his letter to the earl Giovanni Borromeo subsequently collected in the "Opus Epistolarum", published few years later, in 1511: ""Christophorus quidam Colonus vir Ligur"". The same thing said in his "Lettera" Michele da Cuneo, a ligurian friend of Columbus, native of Savona, who partecipated to the second voyage to Hispaniola. Do you really could think that a ligurian was not able to distinguish another ligurian from iberians? Columbus donated an island to Michele da Cuneo who named it "Saona". Then we can speak about the decisive contribution of another italian friend of Columbus, the bishop Geraldini, confessor of the queen Isabel. And you don't know that the Banco di San Giorgio of Genoa financed the first voyage of Columbus. Having said that, even though Columbus was born in Italy, he behaved as a faithful subject of the kings of Spain, therefore, he can be considered Spanish by choice.

  • @josersleal

    @josersleal

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@giorgiodifrancesco4590 The pope in his bulas NEVER wrote his name as other than 'cristo val colon' No 'h', 'o' with trace on top as only the portuguese wrote. Never as the italians say his name was. Colon himself always signed his name the same as the pope, along with the initials of his real portuguese name. he spoke no italin, never wrote a single letter in italian, never was in italy. the picture used is done by an italian artist that never met him. He was a spy to divert the spanish from the new continent that was known y the portuguese 150 years before they claimed brasil. Hence he never led them to the continent and kept them at bay,

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josersleal En ese momento, el italiano no era un idioma hablado, sino solo escrito por los poetas. En la Republica de Génova (actual region Liguria), el latín se usaba para documentos y cartas en el siglo XV y dudo que Colón (que era una persona que navegò desde cuando era muy joven y que incluso había practicado la piratería) hubiera estudiado latín. Por eso (y considerado que no fue un poeta), es bastante común que, viviendo al extranjero, utilizara idiomas adoptados, como el español. Lo mismo puede decirse de su nombre. Castellanizarlo sirvió para ser aceptado por los espanoles (en ese momento, extremadamente nacionalistas y racistas). El idioma ligur no es la lengua italiana: es un idioma neolatin occidental, galo-romance, como el piamontes, el lombardo, el emiliano, el occitano, el franco-povenzal, el oitano (o frances comun) y como los idiomas neolatinos ibericos. La lengua italiana pertenece al conjunto neolatin oriental, junto con el rumano y los neolatinos desaparecidos o casi desaparecidos del oeste europeo (dalmatico, arumano). kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKdnqMitXZmwc6w.html

  • @keyos1955

    @keyos1955

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josersleal You are clueless

  • @markskyscraper8092
    @markskyscraper80922 жыл бұрын

    When enough years go by your grave is no more sacred than a kitchen junk drawer.

  • @manifestwithmells8178
    @manifestwithmells81782 жыл бұрын

    I love your video it's beautiful 💗💗💗🇩🇪

  • @paulawerrett1011
    @paulawerrett10113 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this episode as a Lusíada😊 An interesting fact in our school history lessons we were given a morsel that Columb us was Portuguese ( I am originally from Zimbabwe). Love the series. Thank you

  • @janaprocella8268

    @janaprocella8268

    3 жыл бұрын

    Morsel for sure.... Public and private school education have both been non-plusing the lives of students ever since they have been in existence. How little archeology we actually became aware of in high school at all.

  • @SheldonThomas-rp8ft

    @SheldonThomas-rp8ft

    9 ай бұрын

    1A⁰À

  • @mell91349

    @mell91349

    6 ай бұрын

    Stealing is a distinctive tract of Portuguese people... He was italian full stop.

  • @narrativeshorts
    @narrativeshorts3 жыл бұрын

    There is a test that can help prove it either way, whether Columbus was from Genoa or Cuba. Chemical Strontium isotopes composition of his teeth should show the area he where he grew up in. The mineralization of teeth are lay down for a person before birth and during childhood. You just need to confirm that the teeth are truly Columbus'. Maybe impossible task.

  • @billroberts9182

    @billroberts9182

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was told only 200 grams or so of bones were found in the Seville coffin. The DNA matched with his son's DNA buried in the same cathedral in Seville (Hernando Colon). I don't know if there were any teeth to test. Supposedly bones are also located in Santo Domingo and in Cuba- so I think the poor guy got pieced out...

  • @Survivethejive

    @Survivethejive

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@billroberts9182 DNA would show if he was Italian easily

  • @billroberts9182

    @billroberts9182

    3 жыл бұрын

    @R Bray According to Samuel Morison, he was without doubt Genoese. He was tall, red haired with freckles. Hardly a typical Portugeuse in the 16th Century. Plus contemporary written documents refer to him as Genoese, and Christofer generated documents endowing Genoese business locations near the end of his life. Apparently he had no formal schooling as a young man (which was typical of the Genoese at that time) and that most mariners in Portugal and Spain spoke spanish. DNA would confirm it if that is possible.

  • @zoebaggins90

    @zoebaggins90

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@billroberts9182 sounds like a Jewish spy to me.

  • @cejannuzi

    @cejannuzi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Survivethejive You think? It would depend on the mix of peoples in Genoa, a port city and melting pot, at the time (if that was where he was born).

  • @juanlapuente833
    @juanlapuente83310 ай бұрын

    Portuguese rejected both Columbus and Magallanes and now regret and spend most of their time trying to prove that they did everything for Portugal...we also have many who say Columbus was a Spaniard. The fact is that both Columbus and Magallanes did what they did thanks to Spanish initiative and support and that is what allowed them to leave their track in history

  • @prairiepatriot2162
    @prairiepatriot21622 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating story, I am interested in seeing if they can ever get a DNA match to Portuguese royals. Trouble is that those in posession of the evidence have an interest in keeping the story as is, and as such, they aren't likely to grant access to it.

  • @henrypacquette1489

    @henrypacquette1489

    2 жыл бұрын

    If the truth be told it will shock you

  • @philobetto5106

    @philobetto5106

    2 жыл бұрын

    the Norsemen arrived in North America 500 years before Columbus, and before and ''Native Americans'' so looks like they get land and a casino

  • @philobetto5106

    @philobetto5106

    2 жыл бұрын

    ah' the good ole days before the Smithsonian

  • @Mameli20030

    @Mameli20030

    2 жыл бұрын

    Guilt and shame is the only thing that keeps the truth tightly locked as possible.

  • @megw7312

    @megw7312

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philobetto5106 Britons landed in America 900 years before Columbus

  • @dandylionriver
    @dandylionriver3 жыл бұрын

    Oh Pleas. There are DNA tests RIGHT NOW that’ll show his nationality.

  • @philipcone357
    @philipcone3573 жыл бұрын

    Here is a question I have not seen addressed. Columbus was sailing west to find a quicker route to India and China......then why name anything? If he thought he was in East Asia, everything was already named! There is a lot to the story we know nothing about.

  • @alis4650gls

    @alis4650gls

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly this guy was no good

  • @chrismardas8

    @chrismardas8

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually this documentary was incorrect. Columbus was a Greek from the Island of Chios which was a protectorate of Genoa. Colombos is a common family name in Chios. Chios has always been known for its sea trading families and is a stronghold for shippping families of Greece. The rich trading educated families from Byzantium fled the Anatolian coast in the 15th Century to avoid the growing power of the Ottoman Empire. This exodus of up to 1 million Greeks into Western Europe was the real Catalyst for the Renaissance. The Catholic Church and the Royals of Western Europe have covered this up because it was not in their best interest to allow for a Greek Orthodox Elite network across Western Europe. These Greeks happily converted to avoid the catholic and royal pressure. They needed a knew homeland. Why would the Queen of Spain trust a Portuguese man? And why would the Portuguese not fund their own expedition? The Byzantine world knew more ancient secrets. They were a far older society with better knowledge. Columbus knew where he was going and he knew the circumference of the earth. He knew he wasn’t in India he knew Asia was a far greater distance from Europe. A German researcher found that Columbus wrote his name Christopher with a Xristoforos or Xristoferens like Greek. He wrote his shop logs in Greek. He named capes after Greek Letters. I wonder if this will all come to light one day.

  • @Windsingerful
    @Windsingerful Жыл бұрын

    This was very interesting to me, as I have ancestry in Cuba, as well as Spain and Portugal. As an African American, I knew of the Cuban/Spanish root of my maternal grandfather, but the amount of Portuguese was over 4%. They commentators spoke of Portugal’s desire to lay claim to Brazil and Africa for the “raw material wealth”, but no mention to the millions of human beings enslaved and forcibly transported to Cuba (Caribbean) and Brazil, where most of the entire transatlantic slave trade delivered their human cargo. They too were considered “raw material wealth” (gold) and I think it’s quite disingenuous to gloss over that particularly horrific point. Not to mention the slaughter “Columbus” and the Portuguese administered through the “New” world, killing, enslaving, and transporting indigenous people from the moment of first contact in the Caribbean to various port on both sides of the Atlantic, Portugal, Cape Verde Islands, and African countries like Angola . Tell the whole bloody truth.

  • @Christofurr

    @Christofurr

    Жыл бұрын

    The subject of the documentary is Columbus. The transatlantic slave trade started well after his death. Why should they feel the need to cover it here?

  • @brotherkhalil

    @brotherkhalil

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Christofurr Because he helped initiate the trans atlantic slave trade!!

  • @Christofurr

    @Christofurr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brotherkhalil by that reasoning, the inventor of the sail boat helped initiate the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Does a documentary about sail boats need to have a section covering the subject?

  • @michellelafaye2721

    @michellelafaye2721

    Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. The more we go down the rabbit holes the more confusing it all becomes. All of humanity deserves the whole truth. I've never been a fan of Royalty or Elite status for the simple fact that they fully believe that they are the God Chosen rulers of the entire earth. That is all that every great Empire existed for. What divine right do we have to go into the lands some one else is living on and destroy every facet of their lives for some worthless metal, that ends up contaminating the water, air, and foods. A lot of tribal people didn't believe in digging deep into the "skin of mother earth". All of those lands run by Emperors were focused on wealth. The indigenous were far more rational and accepting of their lot in life. I'm not too sure at this point who was wiser. Where we are headed next is certainly not a good place. And, I'd rather take my chances with the Indigenous than where we're headed.

  • @dovbarleib3256
    @dovbarleib32563 жыл бұрын

    Luis de Torres, who was Columbus's navigator and interpreter on the Santa Maria, was a known Jew. De Torres records in his diary that Yom Kippur fell near the end of Columbus's 1st maritime journey. On that night Jews fast, and many pious Jews do not lie down or sleep. He records on the actual night of Yom Kippur, Columbus stayed up all night on deck placidly staring into the darkness. He refused to even lie down or to go to sleep. He records that at no other time during the journey did Columbus refuse to lie down in his quarters after dark.

  • @jmac3804

    @jmac3804

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting

  • @brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746

    @brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now think about why would he bring a Jew interpreter to the America’s 🤔🤔🤔🤫🤫🤫 Qam yasharahla

  • @dovbarleib3256

    @dovbarleib3256

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because Columbus left Spain on the 1st day of of the Hebrew month of Av in 1492, 8 days before all Jews had to leave Spain, convert to Catholicism, or die. Most left with Ferdinand's Jewish advisor, Don Abarbanal, crossing the border out of Spain on that date of the 9th of Av. Others became Maranoes, pretending to be Catholics on the outside while secretly practicing Judaism. A few others like Luis De Torres found another way out of Spain.

  • @dovbarleib3256

    @dovbarleib3256

    3 жыл бұрын

    But this is where things get more interesting. The Gregorian dates and the Julian dates in the 15th Century were likely 9 days off from each other. I believe in the 16th Century when Pope Gregory set up the Gregorian calendar, the pope added 10 days to the calendar sometime in March? (need confirmation, March 4th I think), and the day after March 4th was March 15th or in order to account for the discrepency between the 2 calendars over the previous 12 centuries from the time of the Council of Nicea. Presto, ten days were simply removed from time to account for a year which was really 365.2425 days long and not 365.25 days long. So if Feb 29th is not added 3 times every 400 years, the calendar more accurately tracks the length of 1 solar year. This accounts for 10 times during a 1200 year history when there should have been no Feb 29th while the Julian calendar does not make such "minor" adjustments. If we add 9 of those days to the Julian date of Columbus's journey on the 3rd of August 1492, we arrive at the fact that Columbus actually left on the 12th of August according to the yet to be established Gregorian calendar. (In the year 1500 there would have been no Feb 29th according to Pope Gregory's calendar accounting for a full ten days. So in reality Columbus left Spain on the 10th of Av, not the 1st of Av and arrived at San Salvadore on the 21st of Tishrei, which was the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles, 11 days after Yom Kippur. So Luis De Torres left Spain the day after the Inquisition had already begun.

  • @dovbarleib3256

    @dovbarleib3256

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, and the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles, when land was spotted, has another name in Hebrew. It is called Hosha Na Rabbah or Hossana Rabbah, THE GREAT SALVATION, .... perhaps accounting for Columbus's name for the new island, San Salvadore?!

  • @jerydossey5929
    @jerydossey59293 жыл бұрын

    Keep these great documentaries coming because I love them. Great to listen to at work

  • @tommythompsonsurfer

    @tommythompsonsurfer

    3 жыл бұрын

    IF YOU SPEAK THE LANGUAGES.

  • @michaeljoseph3528

    @michaeljoseph3528

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tommythompsonsurfer Why not learn them?

  • @jamesbrown9861
    @jamesbrown98612 жыл бұрын

    Anytime I come across a documentary about that 1492 dude, I get my popcorn and beer ready so I can get a good laugh about the biggest lie ever told, Santa Claus comes in at a close 2nd!

  • @WestTexasStyle
    @WestTexasStyle Жыл бұрын

    Excellently investigated documentary. 1492 was an interesting year in history.

  • @jaiprem7413
    @jaiprem74133 жыл бұрын

    “Success has a thousand fathers”

  • @chichi6796

    @chichi6796

    3 жыл бұрын

    Profound

  • @DebbieDearth

    @DebbieDearth

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jai Prem Accurate...

  • @monkeymonk2278
    @monkeymonk22783 жыл бұрын

    I was taught in American jr high school 17 or 18 years ago that Christopher Columbus was from Portugal. I had no idea that there was any other idea. This to me is like finding out that Germans claim Joan of Arc was German. It's weird.

  • @peachbellini2615

    @peachbellini2615

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right?! I still can't believe that basically everything we were taught in school is "kinda true" but mostly wrong ..lol.. you can imagine my surprise when I learned that Benedict Arnold wasn't actually the horrible person we were taught he was.. he had many redeeming qualities rarely mentioned! Now they're trying to tarnish Columbus's image after teaching for years that he was "heroic" ..wow.. future generations will be so much wiser than we can imagine!

  • @marcyoverby3120

    @marcyoverby3120

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you do your own research to make up your own mind. Not what some one tells you.

  • @cosmoray9750

    @cosmoray9750

    3 жыл бұрын

    He is Korean. He is related to Kim Jong-un 😄😜🤪😁😄

  • @bl00dline360

    @bl00dline360

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cosmoray9750I didn’t know that I thought he was Spanish

  • @anthonylafayette4385

    @anthonylafayette4385

    3 жыл бұрын

    @KAREN4CHRIST.. The bible was written approx.80 years after the death of Christ. None of it being true.

  • @lisasternenkind6467
    @lisasternenkind64672 жыл бұрын

    So why did the historians give up the examination of DNA so early in their investigation?

  • @somewhatinformed1208

    @somewhatinformed1208

    2 жыл бұрын

    the tomb was empty.

  • @LauraGarcez
    @LauraGarcez2 жыл бұрын

    Caramba! Finalmente alguém (Prof. Gandra) afirma o que sempre pensei: a viagem de Colombo foi uma manobra de diversão!

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim

    @Just_Call_Me_Tim

    2 жыл бұрын

    A diversion from what, though? I’m watching for what you mentioned, and it’s more interesting, really.

  • @realramone3455

    @realramone3455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Just_Call_Me_Tim I'll explain. A diversion to mislead the spanish to the west, since the portuguese were the only ones who knew how to navigate properly on open sea, who knew always where they were, due to technology, longitude, cartography, modern accurate glassed bussole, portuguese sextant, balatrava, knowledge of currents and winds, etc. So the spanish were always trying to follow them. Diverting them to the west was genius. Plus the portuguese had already been in Canada and north America, but were not interested (no trade routes), also the treaty of Tordesilles forbidden the portuguese to claim those territories... Exactly like the portuguese finding Australia, by Cristóvão Mendonça in 1521, and not being able to claim it, because of the territorial place of it in the map of the treaty of Tordesilles. Cheers

  • @romanrepublic

    @romanrepublic

    Жыл бұрын

    @L.aE.cH. Empire Reported for spamming

  • @Patriot1789
    @Patriot17893 жыл бұрын

    Anyone think of comparing the DNA of Columbus’s known male descendants with that of the Portuguese Duke in this story who is also a descendant of the Duke of Beja? This common male ancestor would be revealed in the DNA, would it not?

  • @PoonDestruction

    @PoonDestruction

    2 жыл бұрын

    didnt the duke say thats exactly what theyre doing in the end?

  • @lino222

    @lino222

    Жыл бұрын

    the DNA test results will be released on October 12th.

  • @danielvanoffel596
    @danielvanoffel5963 жыл бұрын

    When you have preoccupied filmmakers and only Portuguese interviewees...

  • @sarvp1

    @sarvp1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some spanish were interviewed too.

  • @corvusglaivetheblackorder4465
    @corvusglaivetheblackorder44652 жыл бұрын

    This is the first I'm hearing of all this. Amazing stuff. I knew he was Jewish and not Genoese but the Portuguese part I didn't know. It all makes so much more sense though.

  • @realramone3455

    @realramone3455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @L.aE.cH. Empire Take your medecine

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @j.maybrick8596
    @j.maybrick8596 Жыл бұрын

    This video goes a long way to explain why some people feel they have never fit in well in American society. The truth is always more helpful than lies in the long run and I thank those responsible for producing and posting it.

  • @birkethaumuller-grobler7826
    @birkethaumuller-grobler78263 жыл бұрын

    This is so weird to watch this. When I was in primary school many years ago, our history books stated that Columbus was Portuguese in service of Spain on his voyages...that is what we were taught. 🤔

  • @noir6632

    @noir6632

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. This is actually well known and a well-founded fact, but it seems Italians are not having it and no matter the amount of consensus around it they will ever allow it to be generally accepted and history to be corrected.

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@noir6632 Ahahahaha. Siete ridicoli.

  • @isaluz7859

    @isaluz7859

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but where did you go to school? Netherlands?

  • @keyos1955

    @keyos1955

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol, which fake school you went? Columbus was born inside the Genoan territories, all know this. There are countless acts that prove how he passed his youth in Italy

  • @isaluz7859

    @isaluz7859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@keyos1955 there are countless documents and DNA that prove he's Portuguese

  • @adrianalainez8499
    @adrianalainez84993 жыл бұрын

    He married a noble woman. Something a commoner could never have done.

  • @conceicaotavora5599

    @conceicaotavora5599

    3 жыл бұрын

    Com uma Zarco, era casado com uma Zarco e não filho!

  • @johninaryan951

    @johninaryan951

    3 жыл бұрын

    Of course they did, happened a couple of times.

  • @VeraDonna

    @VeraDonna

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@conceicaotavora5599 ele casou com a filha de Bartolomeu Perestrelo, não uma Zarco.

  • @conceicaotavora5599

    @conceicaotavora5599

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@VeraDonna tem razão já verifiquei, obrigada

  • @ahmedislam2580

    @ahmedislam2580

    3 жыл бұрын

    he was very smart

  • @janettedavis6627
    @janettedavis66272 жыл бұрын

    I'm positive the Vatican would have records on the Great Explorer Christopher Columbus.

  • @SilviaParraTruckingEU-NZ-AU
    @SilviaParraTruckingEU-NZ-AU2 жыл бұрын

    I read a study ( book too) about Columbus being the famous Galician sailor and noble Pedro Álvarez de Sotomayor nicknamed Pedro Madruga. Colom being his grandmother's Maiden name. He sided with Portugal in the war for Galicia to leave Castilian hands and lost. He desappears suddenly with no notice of his death the year before Columbus appears in Portugal. Both have the same number of sons with same names. And the desciphering of the signature is much simpler than here. Also when it is said Columbus visited the Castilian queen ..the name that day in the registry of visitors is Pedro Sotomayor and not Columbus

  • @RoaroftheTiger

    @RoaroftheTiger

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps we can persuade U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, to give a DNA sample?

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. He first approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca, at the Palace there. He sailed from Cataluyna--the Palos that is always cited was evidently too shallow for his ships at the time.

  • @nunorican

    @nunorican

    Жыл бұрын

    That actually makes more sense than other theories (being an experienced sailor and a nobleman), although there seems to be a document in the spanish archives also identifying him or himself as being "Portuguese". I also read somehere that is real first name was "Pedro", so there is a good chance to that claim.

  • @playrasputin3457
    @playrasputin34573 жыл бұрын

    1:33 this kind of grade A acting would be better left out of documentaries

  • @Roseh77

    @Roseh77

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I switched off at that point

  • @Leaf1480

    @Leaf1480

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wont lie im still laughing after watching this whole thing

  • @khernandez7903

    @khernandez7903

    3 жыл бұрын

    Minus the DNA, this has the potential to be the never ending story.

  • @jeffgraham9089

    @jeffgraham9089

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Tell us now!”

  • @viderevero1338

    @viderevero1338

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favorite part 😂

  • @Lonnie_Johnson
    @Lonnie_Johnson3 жыл бұрын

    It's a shame people are already questioning the truth or quality of this documentary. Using terms like ''I don't believe this'' or ''ham-fisted, cheesy dramatizations''. What a shame! I've been fascinated by the history of Columbus my whole life. I thought this was an excellent documentary and deserves a follow up on their outstanding research! Also I must compliment his Royal highness san Cristobal and Carlos Evaristo for their analysis and explanation. Also they had amazing connections! In Spain and Portugal these Cathedrals, tombs and locations are considered Holy. You have to be someone very well respected or of high regard to even be granted access to them. It's a shame simple people just sitting behind their computer (gathering info from the internet) to question or insult people of such stature! Thank you Timeline - World History Documentaries

  • @vicky4112

    @vicky4112

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, there are also terms like, "wishful thinking," "supasions (although I think the person meant suspicions?), opinions, theories" as if the video contained absolutely no research or compelling evidence.

  • @Lonnie_Johnson

    @Lonnie_Johnson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vicky4112 The artifacts shown in this video or the heritage of the people who were interviewed alone should be enough to convince anyone who has any real interest in this subject. Again these aren't 3 fools from around the block suggesting a theory. These are wellknown and respected researchers or even late relatives of Columbus. Like I said this documentary deserves a part 2 because I'm very convinced they have gathered more evidence or DNA by now. The people mostly commenting negatively about his documentary are simply 'easy to watch documentary thrill seekers' or people who just look up too much conspiracy theories on the internet. The subjects in this documentary are very well respected. For some smuck sitting behind his computer to diss this just because not all the evidence or a second part to this documentary was shown are just blatantly ignorant and do not understand anything about Columbus, Catholicism of Spanish/Portugese culture in general.

  • @Meerkat73

    @Meerkat73

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lonnie_Johnson I found that claims considering geographical names corellations to Portuguese locations and possible Jewish descendance are well founded and explained. However, complete lack of intended DNA link to Portuguese royalty are lackluster and strained.

  • @htx92

    @htx92

    3 жыл бұрын

    mmmm..... ham

  • @sirluisray1974

    @sirluisray1974

    3 жыл бұрын

    One thing that I knew about Columbus before I saw this documentary it's the fact that he never wrote in Italian. He wrote in the mediaeval Portuguese or Galician script. Wish to my understanding they were pretty similar back then. Also apparently he would write to the queen in Castilian but some of the words would still be written in Portuguese or Galician. Now I'm not sure what language they spoke in Genoa back then but I'm sure it was not those.

  • @carlarosarioguerreiro1473
    @carlarosarioguerreiro14732 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating,im portuguese but i didnt know about this last part........... please do a part 2 , more evidence comes to light,i need to know more....thanks

  • @davidmrodriguez8067

    @davidmrodriguez8067

    2 жыл бұрын

    "I pray to God to give you a lot of beautiful days and I hope God bless you to have a great day, I'm David by name from Overbrook Philadelphia and you where are you from?

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

  • @user-si4so4ko2f
    @user-si4so4ko2f2 жыл бұрын

    There is a historical belief in Morocco, which few native people from Morocco sailed with Columbus, that he is of a Portuguese origins.

  • @frankieamsden7918

    @frankieamsden7918

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have read this as well.

  • @thenobleone-3384
    @thenobleone-33843 жыл бұрын

    There has been a long debate about Columbus being Spanish or Italian. I always thought growing up that he was Italian descent

  • @corazoncubano5372

    @corazoncubano5372

    3 жыл бұрын

    Through DNA we will know the truth. Growing up I was taught that he was Spanish.

  • @thenobleone-3384

    @thenobleone-3384

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@corazoncubano5372 I agree the accounts of his life shows that he was Spanish. That makes the most sense to me

  • @mariabarco7226

    @mariabarco7226

    2 жыл бұрын

    All his descendants are Spanish. You should ask them what they think! Duke of Veragua

  • @jeanlundi2141

    @jeanlundi2141

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mariabarco7226 My cousin's descendants are also all french.My cousin's portuguese and emigrated to France.

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    @@corazoncubano5372 . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

  • @richardsequeirateixeira
    @richardsequeirateixeira3 жыл бұрын

    It’s been said that he has been of Iberian origin more than Italian. Some say that his signature style was that of the contemporary style of the Catalans. As for Columbus being Portuguese, it is highly plausible since he did marry into the Portuguese family, the Perestrellos. The wife, was one of the comendadoras of a convent in Portugal.

  • @adelking66

    @adelking66

    2 жыл бұрын

    He also a from a morisco family who have sailors who can read Arab maps

  • @pilleheinloo3371

    @pilleheinloo3371

    2 жыл бұрын

    At that time, Catalan and Portuguese Royal families (the original catalan royal family, not the castillian one that became occupier to the catalan-aragones crown in 1413) were related to each other and there were some marriages among them. It is plausible he was 50% portuguese and 50% catalan.

  • @richardsequeirateixeira

    @richardsequeirateixeira

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pilleheinloo3371 the Iberian kingdoms were all related by blood in someway or another. Game of Thrones all over again.

  • @themaskedman221

    @themaskedman221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardsequeirateixeira No serious historian believes what OP wrote.

  • @Janemas

    @Janemas

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true. Catalan is a high possibility.

  • @GuitarraLisboa1977
    @GuitarraLisboa19772 жыл бұрын

    Este documentário e por consequência este vídeo merece um grande elogio das mais variadas vertentes. Eu conheço esta versão da investigação histórica há pelo menos uns 20 anos, quando eu li um pequeno texto da autoria do Professor Doutor e Médico Luciano Melo (se não me falha a memória). E de facto a única duvida que se apontava nesta teoria extremamente plausível, a qual ainda hoje existe era seguinte: - Porque razão e porque argumento, naquele tempo Salvador Fernandes Zarco se fez passar por Cristovão Cólon? E no meu entendimento a resposta para tal pergunta fundamental é tão simples: - Não é certamente apenas o motivo que o Reino de Portugal estar interessado no Oriente e não nas Índias pelo Ocidente. Portugal sabia sim da existência de uma terra a Ocidente e também sabia que não era a India ( a de Vasco da Gama), sabia sim que era uma uma terra com outras gentes. Por outro lado, Vasco da Gama, que a segunda fez se impus com canhões sobre a India, se tornou no primeiro Vice Rei português, neste caso do lado Oriente. E para tentar responder à pergunta fundamental da identidade de Cristovão Colón vs Salvador Fernandes Zarco, Porquê se fazia passar por outra pessoa? Era espião? porque razão foi ele falar com a coroa de Espanha e não a Portugal? >>>> Ora vejamos, se ele era filho bastardo, do Rei D. Fernando (Fernande(s) pois é filho de Fernando) juntamente com uma filha do capitão donatário Zarco da ilha da Madeira, nascido que foi escondido em Cuba do Alentejo, como todos os bastardos eram à revelia e se ele ao descobrir das Índias (Américas) se tornasse Vice Rei também ?>>> Então isso significava claramente que mesmo sendo bastardo, ele tinha direito a aceder ao trono de Portugal? Ele tinha direito a ser REI por descender diretamente do sangue do Rei D. Fernando e uma vez obtendo popularidade pelos seus feitos na corte portuguesa. A resposta é exatamente esta: - Ele fugiu de Portugal pois provavelmente a sua vida seria em risco, porque era um sério candidato uma vez descoberta a América a ser considerado Rei de Portugal e/ou disputar o trono e obviamente o Rei em vigência sabia certamente da sua linhagem e certamente que iria por termo à sua vida para não ficar sem o trono. Eu penso que não há duvida para o motivo pelo qual o mapa de Piri Reis desapareceu entre os demais mapas que se encontravam no acervo da altura. Cristovão Cólon seria a sua nova identidade dentro da Europa, onde ele foi tentar a sua sorte de vida numa outra corte, uma vez que a sua linhagem (uma vez conhecida em Portugal) determinaria a sua bastardia e falta de recetividade do Rei por poder eventualmente ser considerado um potencial usurpador ao poder. E a promessa que recebeu da Coroa de Espanha foi que se tornaria Vice Rei de Espanha desta feita das Ìndias (ou Americas) não tendo porém se verificado. Contudo, ainda numa ultima tentativa e após ter descoberto Cuba pela primeira vez e de regresso à Europa, ele ainda parou num lugar que se chama Anjos que fica a Norte da Ilha de Santa Maria, numa pequena enseada e baia muito erma, a qual não tinha artilharia que apontasse às caravelas espanholas ao se aproximar junto á costa ou simplesmente fugir ao conhecimento de tocar em costa portuguesa, para que deste modo deixasse mensagem aos seus familiares de Gonçalo Velho Cabral, que era capitão donatário dos Açores, para que ao aportar em breve e em Lisboa esta mensagem chegasse à Rainha de Portugal pois Cristovão Cólon ou Salvador Fernandes Zarco queria falar com a mesma urgentemente para lhe transmitir uma mensagem importante. E essa reunião com a rainha aconteceu , obviamente como a sua ultima tentativa de saber se Salvador Fernandes Zarco devia entregar a sua descoberta que ainda não estava totalmente terminada aos reis portugueses , ou se Cristovão Colón devesse caminhar até Castela a levar novas ruma esquecer para sempre da sua verdadeira identidade portuguesa ou se devia simplesmente aceitar uma nova realidade do seu Eu ao se chamar e ser conhecido durante a sua vida e para as próximas gerações por Cristofhõn (critovão) Cólon. Penso que esta é a resposta para a duvida que assombra a presente teoria.

  • @GlobetrotterBR

    @GlobetrotterBR

    2 жыл бұрын

    Você está certo. Mesmo antes da chegada de Cabral no Brasil já havia portugueses vivendo aqui, particularmente os judeus João Ramalho e Cosme Fernandes, mais conhecido como "Bacharel de Cananeia" (entre outros). Cananeia foi o nome dado a esta região no sul do estado de São Paulo e que fica exatamente no último ponto ao sul da linha do tratado de Tordesilhas e onde estes "cristãos novos", na verdade judeus, foram deixados. É bom lembrar que o primeiro povo a se beneficiar do que chamamos hoje de 'globalização' foram os judeus. Por causa da diáspora, os judeus em várias partes do mundo se comunicavam com frequência. Não com a velocidade atual, mas com frequência ininterrupta. Sugiro que pesquise as descobertas da historiadora Anita Novinsky, que foi a maior autoridade em Inquisição no Brasil e Portugal e que passou décadas estudando pessoalmente os arquivos da Torre do Tombo. Ela fez descobertas surpreendentes.

  • @ciscodealmeida8541

    @ciscodealmeida8541

    2 жыл бұрын

    nunca vais encontrar a verdade escrita por outros, mas se tiveres a curiosidade seria,entao fala com ele,faz amizade com ele o eterno nome dele e Conde St Germain.

  • @jimpalmer1969

    @jimpalmer1969

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting points. I would like to hear the Italian and Spanish side of this story if a convincing one really exists. Things that happened six centuries ago will always end in controversy, but I'm inclined to believe in the CC Portuguese ancestry. I really hope I live long enough for full DNA analysis of this story. Thanks for the great write up and your great European heritage.

  • @AFKalabanga

    @AFKalabanga

    Жыл бұрын

    Espero não chegar muito tarde, mas penso que posso explicar a teoria do porquê Salvador Fernandes Zarco ter escondido o próprio nome atrás de Cristóvão Colombo. Contextualizando a história depressa percebemos que toda ela se passa no tempo na Inquisição, onde a "igreja" forçava a conversão de religião sob pena de morte ou sob prisão. Muito judeus foram perseguidos e mortos. Alguns converteram-se, outros faziam de conta. Zarco era de famílias judias. Os judeus desenvolveram algumas ferramentas de navegação marítima. Por causa da Inquisição e da fuga dos judeus, Portugal perdeu um enorme pedaço de conhecimento. Os judeus são muito religiosos, mas têm contribuíram imenso para a evolução da ciência. E perdemos a corrida à potência mundial.

  • @lino222

    @lino222

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimpalmer1969 well, the Italian/Spanish side is the "official" version born out of a book written by some guy...a story, not history! Donnie Brasco was a gangster, but Joe Pistone was an undercover fbi agent, yet they were the same... to my understandig, the DNA test results will be released on October 12th, Columbus day.

  • @keelyevans7692
    @keelyevans76922 жыл бұрын

    2812 that is such an amazing building the intricacy of the art is astonishing thank you for sharing

  • @stardust9964
    @stardust99643 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather’s ancestors are from a town in Puerto Rico where all of the cousins were intermarrying and were direct descendants of the first colonists who showed up with the Columbus armadas. Christopher’s brother stayed in PR and made families . People with the Colon surname are descended from the Columbus brothers. All of us cousins are on a fb page and we have shared our dna results and we all have half Portuguese and Spanish ancestry as our majority European markers. No Italian. Columbus’s descendants are actually Spanish speaking Puerto Rican’s

  • @solar7907

    @solar7907

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I found out I was a descendant yesterday but always remember dna test aren’t 100% accurate and probably won’t be able to trace something as far back as the 14-1500s

  • @stardust9964

    @stardust9964

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@solar7907 Well actually my grandfather's ancestors and relatives were part of the elite of the Caribbean and some of them still are involved in that society. So yes I know exactly who they were down to the first aristocratic men that showed up to colonize dominican republic and puerto rico. They also intermarried throughout all those generations because they did not want to mix with other people. The family also kept good records with genealogy books and the old churches that are available for the public to study at a university in puerto rico. Historical scholars on the island did good jobs in that regard.

  • @cindybogart6062

    @cindybogart6062

    2 жыл бұрын

    That must be great to be part of that family!!

  • @cindybogart6062

    @cindybogart6062

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stardust9964 that’s must be great knowing your Ancestry goes all the way back to Chris Columbus! You have any old stories that have been passed down in your family about all this, that would be so interesting to hear!

  • @Aikaplan

    @Aikaplan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cindybogart6062 i

  • @oliviasmietana2789
    @oliviasmietana27893 жыл бұрын

    I love what he says at 14:40

  • @Maria63756
    @Maria637562 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting love ❤️ history tks for this information 👌

  • @eileensullivan3676

    @eileensullivan3676

    Жыл бұрын

    . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

  • @clarkewi
    @clarkewi2 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating.

  • @melaniemurray6539
    @melaniemurray65393 жыл бұрын

    History Hit provides no subtitles or closed captions. Completely unacceptable in 2020 I mean come on, Dan.

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