The CIA's Secret War in Kurdistan with Sam Faddis, ep. 35

In early 2002 Sam Faddis was named to head a CIA team that would enter Iraq, prepare the battlefield and facilitate the entry of follow-on conventional military forces numbering in excess of 40,000 American soldiers. This force, built around the 4th Infantry Division would, in partnership with Kurdish forces and with the assistance of Turkey, engage Saddam's army in the north as part of a coming invasion. Faddis expected to be on the ground inside Iraq within weeks and that the entire campaign would likely be over by summer. Over the next year virtually every aspect of that plan for the conduct of the war in Northern Iraq fell apart.
The 4th Infantry Division never arrived nor did any other conventional forces in substantial number. The Turks not only did not provide support, they worked overtime to prevent the U.S. from achieving success. An Arab army that was to assist U.S. forces fell apart before it ever made it to the field.
Alone, hopelessly outnumbered, short on supplies and threatened by Iraqi assassination teams and Islamic extremists Faddis' team, working with Kurdish peshmerga, nonetheless paved the way for a brilliant and largely bloodless victory in the north and the fall of Saddam's Iraq. That victory, handed over to Washington and the Department of Defense on a silver platter, was then squandered.
The surrender of Iraqi forces in the north was spurned. All existing governmental institutions were, in the name of de-Baathification, dismantled. All input from Faddis' team, which had been in country for almost a full year, was ignored. The consequences of these actions were and continue to be catastrophic.
This is the story of an incredibly brave and effective team of men and women who overcame massive odds and helped end the nightmare of Saddam's rule in Iraq. It is also the story of how incompetence, bureaucracy and ignorance threw that success away and condemned Iraq and the surrounding region to chaos.
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  • @DavidJ-iz8wl
    @DavidJ-iz8wl4 жыл бұрын

    The early Iraq War era stories are always interesting! Seems like more and more people are opening up about their experiences from that era. Thanks!

  • @jackharle1251

    @jackharle1251

    10 ай бұрын

    Phatphuck wears a dark undershirt. Looks like an American spook, but he criticizes top military people. How many Iraq's were on the planes?

  • @coolbreeze3856
    @coolbreeze38564 жыл бұрын

    The sound is SO much better'! Every week I say, “This is the best episode yet”.Faddis has the goods. So in depth yet he makes it simple and completely understandable.

  • @nonnobissolum
    @nonnobissolum Жыл бұрын

    Great Channel, love most of the content and most of the presenters. Every once in awhile once a bit much in one way or another. This guy though is great to listen to and he damn sure is the real deal. Great episode team house!

  • @b.bruster1462
    @b.bruster14622 жыл бұрын

    It’s 9/21. So much for four or five episodes lol. Great work men.

  • @ShinobiHOG
    @ShinobiHOG4 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed Faddis' article on the Ukrainian war and the use of malware.....

  • @paulcooper7128
    @paulcooper71284 жыл бұрын

    Loving the D&D 5e books and dice behind Murphy. Begs the question; what character are you running right now? Show us a pic of your character sheet.

  • @TheTeamHousePodcast

    @TheTeamHousePodcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    I DM a couple games.

  • @jayeli9527
    @jayeli95274 жыл бұрын

    Great episode again. Are you guys bringing anyone from ISIS war?

  • @markkatemcghee2381
    @markkatemcghee23813 жыл бұрын

    Spent time with 2/75 in the 80s we used the net as a hammock lol. Love your channel.

  • @user-nn4gk5tc9q
    @user-nn4gk5tc9q2 жыл бұрын

    Man this guy is wildly intelligent.

  • @ripred42
    @ripred423 жыл бұрын

    Very revealing

  • @filipefrederico5024
    @filipefrederico50244 жыл бұрын

    There should be more people listening to this ! Congrats

  • @helenoceanic9302
    @helenoceanic93024 жыл бұрын

    Long live to kurdistan

  • @mulletmanvlogs
    @mulletmanvlogs3 жыл бұрын

    Nice sweater vest mr rodgers

  • @haloayub1136
    @haloayub11362 жыл бұрын

    I have read the book. It is one of the best. I hoped that there in the book were more information about the CIA activities about post 2003. For instance, CIA roles in defeating ISIS. Have you been in Kurdistan after the fall of Saddam?

  • @guhdars3790
    @guhdars37902 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sam for backing Kurds. love the book.

  • @jackharle1251
    @jackharle125110 ай бұрын

    Tired of civilians ranging top military people.

  • @b.bruster1462
    @b.bruster14622 жыл бұрын

    I’m a bit slow. Our mate Mr Talibani; Sulaymaniyah and the great used car delivery service.

  • @whoisabishag3433
    @whoisabishag34333 жыл бұрын

    04:30 ... Sam Speaks ... 05:23 ... How Did You Get This Mission? ... 07:15 ... I'm The Guy To Run Your Team ... 19:20 ... FROM: Day 1 The Mission Was Very Clear: Prep The Battlefield for an Invasion Of Iraq and Removal Of Saddam

  • @dilgeshselim1415
    @dilgeshselim14153 жыл бұрын

    And after 18 years Occupied Iraq Kurdistan, Iraqi area still no freedom for the Kurds. Iraq Iran Syria and Turkey need to give the Kurds what they want bottom line. And separate Iraq into 3 pieces

  • @mrs8171

    @mrs8171

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting demand. I personally agree that Iraqi Kurds should be given a separated Kurd homeland similar to Kosova. Syria is broken nation state and their Kurd zone could be adjoined easily. But, the real major concern is the domino effect with Kurds in Turkey in Iran. Neither nation is willing, nor would permit geographic separation, despite what the people in that area might want. Both nation's will continue to violently crush any sign of descenion. Turkey is very open about and unashamed and no country will even try to stop them. Biden will be happy to even promote such suppression.

  • @sunrisesolutionsK
    @sunrisesolutionsK3 жыл бұрын

    Good listen, must have been a great adventure for all involved due to the seriousness of the operation that left real and lasting change for Kurdistan and also Iraq. I was suprised to hear Sam say to the affect that the US-team worked largely independently from the Kurdish intelligence because it has been said that Kurdish intelligence is one of the strongest and most penetrating in the region, and I imagine it coming handy throughout the entire operation of the toppling of Saddam. If I'm not mistaken, Saddam's hiding-place (the hole he was ultimately found in) was revealed with help of Kurdish intelligence, and that the raid was done by a joint US-Peshmerga force. Just to illustrate the important role Kurds played. Toppling of Saddam was the right and necessary thing to do for many reasons, one of which would be geo-political. Also, Saddam's departure released a latent terrorist force that came to be the core of ISIS that the world thankfully has now dealt with. Afghanistan was mentioned as an example of a "bad move" (or a move turned bad). I would advice against that perspective. The reason for being there is also geo-political. Afghanistan is a good ground to be at and somewhat control, having Iran on one side and China on the other. A cooperative relationship between Russia and the US would undo lots of challanges in Afghanistan. I'm hoping President Trump will achive that objective in his second term. I heard the sad news about Mr Parke's "accident". I wish him a speedy and full recovery. (Fundraising for David Parke www.gofundme.com/f/david-parke039s-medical-bills ). It's crazy how things can get in the US, and that something like that would happen to a defender of the nation! Even more reason to take back your country and prevent her from turning into something unrecognizable. I say #Trump4ever to save America.

  • @wolfumz

    @wolfumz

    3 жыл бұрын

    If toppling saddam was right and good, then why did the GWB administration chose to lie to everyone about their reasons for invasion? One would assume, if they had good reasons to go to war and destroy a foreign government, they would have let those reasons be known. I don't understand.

  • @sunrisesolutionsK

    @sunrisesolutionsK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfumz It's better to lie to the public and get the holy thing done than try to convince the public to do the right thing. The public doesn't care what happens in other countries even when people suffer under tyrannies. President Bush did what was necessary and God bless him for that. The reason Iraq was invaded wasn't to "save the Kurds", but to go after the jihadis. Are you aware that the core of ISIS was Saddam-loyalists? That's what the US and world was dealing with in Saddam. After 911 the Middle East had to be redesigned. Everything that consequently happened would naturally happen to purge the bad guys out and restore order. We're still in it and order WILL be restored. President Trump's peace deal was a major step and Biden has no other choice but to complete the noble task.

  • @wolfumz

    @wolfumz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sunrisesolutionsK I disagree with almost every sentence you said in this comment. I think it's wrong for a democratically elected government to lie about why they are going to war. If you respect someone, you do _not_ _lie_ _to_ _them_ . Especially if you're asking for their help and support, it's wrong to lie to them about something like this. Especially if being 'holy' is the only justification you need to lie to the public, you could justify lying about anything. You say "the public doesn't care." I think that's wrong, the public tends to care, but even if they didn't care, _thats_ _how_ _a_ _democracy_ _works_ . In a democratic system, the government gets its authority from the people. A democratic government does whatever the majority of people want to do. I'm guessing that you prefer a more authoritarian style of government, the way you're talking. Yes, ISIS in Iraq included Saddam loyalists. The problem with your point, though, is that ISIS didn't exist in 2003. In _this_ _interview_ , Sam points out that the Bush admin dissolved the Iraqi military, and that was a decisions that had major negative consequences for _America_ . Because of decisions the US government made, Iraq suddenly brimmed with broke, armed, trained, and disaffected soldiers who _then_ joined the insurgency. These guys would have been content to remain Iraqi soldiers and collect a paycheck, were it not for the US invasion and dissolution of Iraqi society. What are you saying?

  • @sunrisesolutionsK

    @sunrisesolutionsK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfumz I definitely prefer democracy to authoritarianism. I was talking about real-politik and why the US govt had to lie about WMD (Iraq did have and use Chemical Weapons, though) in order to go in and topple Saddam. The aim was to reorganize the entire MENA and Saddam was in the way. After 911 there was an urgency and you can't just ask public opinion before acting. You have to go ahead, and the public will understand and follow, as most Americans did. Unfortunately, however, Democrats and their international leftist allies who wanted to maintain the status quo in the MENA, as in Iran, wouldn't mind demonizing the entire America as "imperialist". That's pure bs, of course. What the US did/does for liberty and democracy around the world, no one else does, certainly not the hypocrite and self-serving Europeans. The US is special and well-appreciated by freedom-lovers around the world, regardless of the leftist/authoritarian anti-American rhetoric. With this regard, I definitely understood and agreed with President Trump in that America First meant American (as opposed to, say, Chinese) leadership. People talk about dismantling of the police-force and state-apparatus in Iraq post-Saddam as THE mistake but in reality the real mistake was to not create a Sunni Arab state within Iraq, like in Kurdistan (KRG). Because the Shia and Kurds had theirs and the Sunni Arabs got nothing. That led to ISIS. The very fact that Saddam-loyalists adopted jihadism as a method illustrates how dangerous Saddam was and why he had to go.

  • @sunrisesolutionsK

    @sunrisesolutionsK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfumz Btw, the US government didn't lie to the American people but to the UN and international community about the WMD. The US had just been attacked and I don't think Americans needed convincing about punishing the perpetrators and making sure it never happened again.

  • @sunrisesolutionsK
    @sunrisesolutionsK3 жыл бұрын

    @ 1:37:29 I wonder what flag it is Sam is talking about. I can't imagine US officials "making up" a Kurdish flag since Kurds have their own flag that is nationally recognized and used. With regards to the American flags: I don't know about flags being flown in and distributed (might have, for propaganda purposes) but Kurdish sentiments towards the US are genuine. Like France during WW2, the Kurds viewed Americans as liberators and do it still, gratefully.

  • @wolfumz

    @wolfumz

    3 жыл бұрын

    This story is consistent w/something John Kariakou, retired CIA who headed the team that captured Abu Zibeda, wrote in his book. He said top figures in the Pentagon and GWB administration would do shit like this- spend their time imagining new flags for Iraq and Kurdistan- while totally neglecting the situation on the ground.

  • @sunrisesolutionsK

    @sunrisesolutionsK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfumz The Kurdish flag was in use in 1922, so, I'm not sure what your John Karriakou is talking about.

  • @wolfumz

    @wolfumz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sunrisesolutionsK IIRC Kariakou names Cheney and his staff as drawing up potential _new_ flags for Kurdistan. He tells this story to make a point that the administration was disconnected from the real risks and challenges of the the mission.

  • @Mr.Ut21
    @Mr.Ut213 жыл бұрын

    In before the fuxking ads....

  • @eddmutasa3148

    @eddmutasa3148

    3 жыл бұрын

    Use viewpure

  • @amandachairez6634
    @amandachairez66344 жыл бұрын

    I'm always going to regret never serving as a cia officer.... 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💀💀💀

  • @mulletmanvlogs
    @mulletmanvlogs3 жыл бұрын

    Come out the closet jack!

  • @stribble78

    @stribble78

    3 жыл бұрын

    1st 20 min so monotone bout went to sleep

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