The Church - The Hypnogogue (Official)

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  • @HerAeolianHarp
    @HerAeolianHarp Жыл бұрын

    I am now 51. I have loved The Church since 1984, when I first heard their song on San Francisco's alt radio station. I went back to their earlier albums, spent my 1980s adolescence impressed and besotted with their music. At 17, I was inspired by their lyrics. My twin sister was playing them on her alt radio college radio show at sixteen. I saw them live in California when I was 18, and I spent decades still in love with their music. Fast forward to 2022, my 51-year-old twin and her boyfriend (another alt radio dj way back when) ran into Steve on a coastal walk near Sydney. Kismet! The love for this music and celebration of Steve's music continues!

  • @mikemiller659

    @mikemiller659

    Жыл бұрын

    You may have been listening to Live 105 , I have a couple of there songs on my Fave thumb drive. Moved to SF in 86, things have really changed here, musically, spiritually .

  • @HerAeolianHarp

    @HerAeolianHarp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikemiller659 I remember Live 105, but prior to that we had KQAK “The Quake”, which is how I heard Constant in Opal for the first time. Regarding SF, yes, it has changed immensely!

  • @songasa9913

    @songasa9913

    Жыл бұрын

    That makes you awesome, you're living life better than most!

  • @fridabbasov4792

    @fridabbasov4792

    Жыл бұрын

    Your comment drew my attention because of word " Kismet". I thought it's a native word to our language ( turkish) seems you also use. It means " fate" in our language

  • @shauncasey8295

    @shauncasey8295

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm 51 also and fell in love with the Church when i heard Under the milky way playing in a mall of all places around 1988. I live in the Chicago area and 93xrt radio has been playing their music for decades. Their slogan is Chicago's finest rock! Ain't that the truth😊

  • @cloneroom
    @cloneroom Жыл бұрын

    Seriously......what a journey. I am so grateful for moving to Australia as a young boy in 1982. A girl a started dating at school played a song from Persia to me on her guitar I was absolutely blown away...I had discovered The Church. Here we are so many years, songs, albums later and my admiration has never disappeared for what must be the greatest Australian Band..ever

  • @stephentroisi5827

    @stephentroisi5827

    Жыл бұрын

    No band like The Church.

  • @pastpresent4948
    @pastpresent49483 ай бұрын

    I think the church didn’t get the recognition they deserve to be in the top 10 bands …. The most underrated band … Great music from one of the greatest bands 🫶🫶🫶

  • @akvox6155
    @akvox6155 Жыл бұрын

    This band is incapable of producing anything less than utterly compelling. Amazing.

  • @billsharkey9365

    @billsharkey9365

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah sounds like something a undernourished vegan would say 🤣🤣@veganhigler6541

  • @billsharkey9365

    @billsharkey9365

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah Kilby is the gift that keeps on giving !!

  • @CageyPea
    @CageyPea Жыл бұрын

    Hallelujah, amen!! The waking dream continues.

  • @JCridford
    @JCridford Жыл бұрын

    "When you wanted it, I was there." We are here. Sublime sounds from the greatest band in the world.

  • @ryissafogarty4140

    @ryissafogarty4140

    Жыл бұрын

    "When you first went in, no-one twisted your arm...""

  • @ricardocerrillo3472
    @ricardocerrillo3472 Жыл бұрын

    Thhe Church have never done anything less than hypnotically enjoyable.

  • @shineymcshine
    @shineymcshine Жыл бұрын

    So cool to see Jeffrey Cain becoming an integral part of The Church. Remy Zero & the Communicating Vessels stuff will forever rule!

  • @dwalto1977
    @dwalto1977 Жыл бұрын

    The view count must be broken. This is literally the best song I have listened to this year.

  • @michelebravin2248

    @michelebravin2248

    Жыл бұрын

    😁😁😁

  • @ryissafogarty4140

    @ryissafogarty4140

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep... absolutely agree! It is beyond brilliant...

  • @kristavollack3964

    @kristavollack3964

    11 ай бұрын

  • @farhangbook1
    @farhangbook1 Жыл бұрын

    How am I supposed to wait until March 2023 for this album..........

  • @farhangbook1

    @farhangbook1

    Жыл бұрын

    Howwwwwwwwwwwwwww??????????????????????????

  • @HerAeolianHarp
    @HerAeolianHarp Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic to see Steve and the updated band.

  • @juancarlosgiraltnavarro1406
    @juancarlosgiraltnavarro1406 Жыл бұрын

    Very hypnotical. I've been following their unparalleled music since the beginning. Now I'm 56! Greetings from BCN.

  • @eloymendez6626

    @eloymendez6626

    Жыл бұрын

    Likewise. And I am 58. Saludos desde Asturias!

  • @ericlebris6220

    @ericlebris6220

    Жыл бұрын

    58🎼🎶😎🤘

  • @alessandrodovi3540
    @alessandrodovi3540 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic new song...Thanks Mr:kilbey

  • @Nithael_
    @Nithael_ Жыл бұрын

    omg...I'm speechless... incredible song & video!

  • @myzenthing
    @myzenthing Жыл бұрын

    Finally! Can't wait for the new album.

  • @victor16928
    @victor169282 ай бұрын

    Great, great song- and wonderful live

  • @monicaspector2388
    @monicaspector2388 Жыл бұрын

    All Hail The Church... I can't wait to hear more. This is one gorgeous track, gentlemen.

  • @tarynned
    @tarynned Жыл бұрын

    Let's take a moment to appreciate how stunning the visuals are and how perfectly they match this song.. just bloody excellent.

  • @debbiemacquarie8883
    @debbiemacquarie8883 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic and trippy all in one....very outstanding

  • @lorenhermanson1450
    @lorenhermanson1450 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant gentlemen! Absolutely love it!!!

  • @maximethompsoniscool
    @maximethompsoniscool Жыл бұрын

    All praise, rock on

  • @stephengilbert9002
    @stephengilbert9002 Жыл бұрын

    I discovered The Church on a Spanish Variety show when I lived in Zaragoza, Spain back 1988. They just came on and played Under The Milky Way and I was drawn in and hooked from that moment. Coming back to the US after 2 years in Spain, I heard them all over the radio with their Starfish album and came to discover both my brothers had latched on as well. Their music never grows old. I really enjoy this effort and am glad they are still producing beautiful music.

  • @aus80srockradio94
    @aus80srockradio94 Жыл бұрын

    For over 40 years we have been constantly spoilt with classic LP after LP and song after song from this absolutely stunning band. Amazing.. Recently bought the MOV Gold Afternoon Fix Marble LP & I still love that LP to this day. Plus of course the debut, Heyday, Starfish, Priest = Aura.... It goes on and on. Awesome :)

  • @wclaydon6721
    @wclaydon6721 Жыл бұрын

    What a visual Mysterious opium den feast this is !I definitely heard it with my eyes !!

  • @josuevasquez7837
    @josuevasquez7837 Жыл бұрын

    Lima Perú 🇵🇪 is still waiting for The Church

  • @frm3961
    @frm3961 Жыл бұрын

    Excelente.....Saludos desde México.

  • @isaiah5082
    @isaiah5082 Жыл бұрын

    As a 15yo these guys will prob be my favorite band forever. Both the blurred crusade and preist=aura are in my top 3 albums of all time and i rlly wanted to see steve in sydney early this month.

  • @bellafaye27
    @bellafaye27 Жыл бұрын

    Euphoric & hypnotic!! Have loved The Church since I first heard them in the mid-80s!! One of my favorite songs from them is Reptile!🙌🙌

  • @PhilNourse92
    @PhilNourse92 Жыл бұрын

    Trippy and musically inventive as you would expect from The Church.. Bladerunner-esque visuals in places. Great stuff 👍

  • @noleclone9660
    @noleclone9660 Жыл бұрын

    Wow!!!! Amazing song AND video.

  • @brettmosser5344
    @brettmosser5344 Жыл бұрын

    Quality work…hopefully a new album. BITD I walked into “Bleeker Street Bob” and bought the EP in the cut-out bin, best money ever spent as The Church has given me a lifetime of music. THX

  • @JEEROFUKU
    @JEEROFUKU Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant song🙏🏻🍀❤️I’m glad that you are back, lads✊🏻🍀

  • @E-candy
    @E-candy Жыл бұрын

    Nice gem from the new lineup. Great vid and love the soundscapes. The E-bow brought back memories of classic Church sound. Kudos!!

  • @carmencanete6103
    @carmencanete6103 Жыл бұрын

    Exelente. 😍 y esa voz que me apasiona con el correr de los años siempre igual .🙏🏼😊🍀💪😍🌷🤗🐼

  • @ktoyle9771
    @ktoyle9771 Жыл бұрын

    Everytime I hear this track I like it even more. I cant wait for the newest Church album to come out in March of 2023. I bet it's going to be as amazing and awesome as this song.

  • @ryissafogarty4140

    @ryissafogarty4140

    Жыл бұрын

    THE HYPNOGOGUE is officially released in Australia this Friday - 24 February... and the songs are beyond incredible! Antarctica, Thorn and Second Bridge are mind blowing... as is the rest of the album! Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy....

  • @joceliarthurbauermann4147
    @joceliarthurbauermann4147 Жыл бұрын

    Great production,guys.Thanks

  • @hectorlopez3513
    @hectorlopez3513 Жыл бұрын

    Like so many of their other songs this one gets better with repeated listening and there is a lot to explore.

  • @centuryhousedw
    @centuryhousedw Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, on all levels! One of the best videos The Church has ever done, very pro job. The guitars are bold and work really well together, and memorable lines too with a cool main riff, the Ebowed parts, etc. Tim's vocal is a nice touch, and Steve's vocal and lyrics are right on.

  • @RedBeardTattoo
    @RedBeardTattoo Жыл бұрын

    I've fell in love with "the Church" when I heard "Under The Milky Way". I have been a fan every since. I had the pleasure seeing the band before covid; got to meet them, and had a lovely chat with them. I'm a fan for LIFE! On a side note, if you have never heard the version of "Under The Milky Way" by Faiths Warning, take a listen. They did a really good job with it. Thankful to God for music, its been a true healer in my life.

  • @jonzilkow7272
    @jonzilkow7272 Жыл бұрын

    Steve still producing masterpieces after 40+ years. Quite impressive.

  • @CatherineMeeson
    @CatherineMeeson Жыл бұрын

    sublime Steve, Tim, Ian love this evolution, look forward to catching ou in Melbourne town, masterful on all levels, great cinema concept

  • @jorgepedrazzoli3553
    @jorgepedrazzoli3553 Жыл бұрын

    Great job!!! both in the musical aspect and in the visual ... I love it!!!!

  • @teelee5559
    @teelee5559 Жыл бұрын

    goosebumps.........................

  • @marciocalixtodefreitas856
    @marciocalixtodefreitas856 Жыл бұрын

    Giant and brilliant The Church!!

  • @sirenbrian
    @sirenbrian Жыл бұрын

    Stunning work all around - I was not at all expecting something that ornate and immersive. Beautiful images and music - well done everyone on this!

  • @iaincook5835
    @iaincook5835 Жыл бұрын

    Man alive, is there any other Australian band who releases consistently tripleA music decade after decade? I just keep buying their records. I remember walking around the Yarra River in Melbourne when the Commonwealth Games were on and Under the Milky Way came on and it was like taking LSD. My darling son, who passed away, always bought the CD of musicians he admired, so they got their reward for their genius, and I do the same. I ordered the CD so I can listen to Hypnogogue on youtube with a clear conscience. And I'm doing it now. Thank you Church for making the world a better place.

  • @satellites1
    @satellites1 Жыл бұрын

    Know this group from my youth . Brilliant track.

  • @sundaramaji
    @sundaramaji Жыл бұрын

    brave music by a band that has nothing to prove to anyone. well done, lads

  • @ryissafogarty4140

    @ryissafogarty4140

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! You either get it or you don't... genius music!

  • @robbauer6466
    @robbauer6466 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. Chills…!

  • @sam8192
    @sam81925 ай бұрын

    Coming back to this song, it seems even more relevant now. Live everyone is under a dream, has been dragged into a state of hypnosis while the strength they once had which once characterised our nation is sucked dry by a lie. We truly have been through the great reset going all the way back to the dream time. At least that's what I see

  • @chorvat6656
    @chorvat6656 Жыл бұрын

    Steve Kilbey is truly a Prismatic Enigma = The Church never disappoint me, ever.

  • @rennhoalohaloren6211
    @rennhoalohaloren6211 Жыл бұрын

    Like a great big warm sonic hug from an old friend!

  • @therealisation
    @therealisation Жыл бұрын

    Still the best band in the world. Wowsers!

  • @SiberiaX
    @SiberiaX Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, fascinating video! Also, I can't keep waiting for the new album of The Church!

  • @CFChristian
    @CFChristian Жыл бұрын

    This album came out of nowhere for me. At first listen, it feels like what MGMT would make if they grew up and stopped f***ing around.

  • @mirtikaschultz3282
    @mirtikaschultz3282 Жыл бұрын

    Yep. They still sound fabulous.....it's like dreaming.

  • @teelee6752
    @teelee6752 Жыл бұрын

    one of the best bands ever!!!

  • @musiclegend1

    @musiclegend1

    Жыл бұрын

    Hands down, one of the best!!

  • @teelee5559

    @teelee5559

    Жыл бұрын

    @@musiclegend1 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Tulkas219

    @Tulkas219

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely!!!

  • @jefflofgren5304
    @jefflofgren53047 ай бұрын

    I listened to this song and watched the video to go with the song a year ago. I was just happy that The Church was moving forward and making new music and enjoyed the song and video for what my first impression was. There was alot of mystery trying to figure out what this mini-movie was hinting at. Then came 2 songs that seemed like unrelated pieces of a puzzle...until I got the album and found that Hypnogoue is a concept album and somehow this whole album tells a story. Incredibly ambitous and very good. Then about 9 months later I witness The Church concert live and Steve Kilbey tells the story of a down on his luck, drug-addled post-pop star that lives in Antarctica in the year 2054 that is intending to ungo a think-tank mind-altering process to help him write more songs. Sound like an amazing idea...or is it? Or did Steve Kilbey actually already undergo this process and write not only The Hypnogogue, but also wrote the book Eros Zeta & the Hypnogoue and another 15 track soundtrack album to go with the book! When listened to and absorbed as a whole with the 2 albums & the book it is not only THE most ambitous work that The Church have ever done, but with the new configuration of the band it is now obvious to me that this recent chapter in the band's history is up there with their best.

  • @alfredjungling9821
    @alfredjungling9821 Жыл бұрын

    ... marvelous..., thank you!!! 🎶💜

  • @General_Proton
    @General_Proton Жыл бұрын

    The Church has always been a place in our hearts where love prevails over the enemy.

  • Жыл бұрын

    Amazing song and video 👏

  • @StepUPNJ
    @StepUPNJ Жыл бұрын

    I've always loved The Church. If I had to pick three albums from a single band as my Desert Island Discs I would pick: Starfish Gold Afternoon Fix Priest = Aura Each one is a masterpiece with its own particular character.

  • @paulw6057

    @paulw6057

    Жыл бұрын

    My favorites are The Blurred Crusade, Heyday, and (probably) Further/Deeper.

  • @philliebonz616
    @philliebonz616 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool! 👏😎 Thank you

  • @anselmoecheverria6342
    @anselmoecheverria6342 Жыл бұрын

    The Church vuelven a dar señales de vida, cinco años después del álbum "Man Woman Life Death Infinity" de 2017, lo que es motivo de alegría. La banda de rock en su reciente gira por Estados Unidos tocaba habitualmente este tema "The Hypnogogue", que ahora presentan como single preludio de su próximo álbum, el que será ya su 26º disco de estudio. Se trata de un tema de tono épico, hipnótico, oscuro y futurista, de más de seis minutos de duración que según Steve Kilbey “esta canción no tiene predecesor en nuestra historia”. La canción tiene algo de esotérico y tiene una combustión lenta, ya que a medida que avanza va incorporando nuevas capas sónicas. Kilbey explica, aunque lo enreda todo más, que "The Hypnogogue" está ambientado en 2054, un futuro distópico y averiado. Inventado por Sun Kim Jong, un científico norcoreano y aficionado al ocultismo, es una máquina y un proceso que extrae la música directamente de los sueños", para añadir: "La canción trata sobre Eros Zeta, la estrella de rock más grande de 2054 que ha viajado desde su hogar en la Antártida (en contra del consejo de su gerente) para usar el Hypnogogue para ayudarlo a revivir su fortuna decaída. En medio del proceso tóxico, él también se enamora de Sun Kim y todo termina trágicamente" . Música independiente novedades.

  • @juancarlosgiraltnavarro1406

    @juancarlosgiraltnavarro1406

    Жыл бұрын

    Caray! Que explicación tan enriquecedora. Gracias. Saludos desde BCN😉👍🏼

  • @Pikeswrath
    @Pikeswrath Жыл бұрын

    This is a track that would have fit nicely on the Priest = Aura LP... some very similar vibes. Classic Church.

  • @edwalsh2714
    @edwalsh2714 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Farking brilliant! So nice to see all of you guys. Directed by Bandit and Caino…. Now we know what you’ve been working on 🤘Thanks so much for your passion and continued contribution to the arts!!! Thank you all for keeping the church rocking after 40 years🙏🛐

  • @kittenthekittycat3987
    @kittenthekittycat3987 Жыл бұрын

    This is so beautiful guys well done on another masterpiece ..So stunning and mesmerizing xxx See you Sunday guys xxxx

  • @mimiantonetti3243
    @mimiantonetti3243 Жыл бұрын

    Steve still has the velvet voice. I've loved them since 1984

  • @ericjurgens6976
    @ericjurgens6976 Жыл бұрын

    Insulated guitars, reptilian bass... the wait for new material was so worth it. The Church as a quintet is a new twist.

  • @rodfletcher373
    @rodfletcher373 Жыл бұрын

    I’m really enjoy8n* this new song, and now a cool video too.

  • @rockcurrent7171
    @rockcurrent7171 Жыл бұрын

    amazing track 💥

  • @aszarek
    @aszarek3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your music. It is very important to me.

  • @gregfuhs1413
    @gregfuhs1413 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant, on all levels!

  • @festersuncle6298
    @festersuncle6298 Жыл бұрын

    I like it when the old guard sound fresh and new!!! And psychedelic.

  • @JamesStoddah
    @JamesStoddah Жыл бұрын

    Incredible! Lost for words.

  • @SonicVisionX
    @SonicVisionX Жыл бұрын

    Excellent. They are timeless.

  • @charlesleon4002
    @charlesleon4002 Жыл бұрын

    They keep moving and creating the church by far the band that is into music on their own terms not the trendy junk that is ramed down your throat in America they are the music love all 26 or is 27 album's

  • @zebluque
    @zebluque Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!!

  • @SaintLewisMusic
    @SaintLewisMusic Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Wasn't a huge fan of the last album, but THIS... this is excellent! Can't wait to hear the whole album!

  • @lostipod12
    @lostipod12 Жыл бұрын

    Saw them perform this earlier this year in Phoenix, they sounded fantastic, the stand-in drummer killed it. This version sounds a little different than the live version. Great song, looking forward to the album.

  • @nunninkav

    @nunninkav

    Жыл бұрын

    ! STEVE AND MARTY WERE IN PHX!?!?!! how did I miss that!!!!!

  • @lostipod12

    @lostipod12

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nunninkav Marty left maybe 8 years ago, Peter left maybe 2 years ago. Only Steve left now from the famous '80s line-up. I've seen them 3 times in Phoenix since 2017. They have an active IG and FB presence, they let you know when they're touring and where.

  • @nunninkav

    @nunninkav

    Жыл бұрын

    I am not on either platform.

  • @GMHG777

    @GMHG777

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lostipod12 yeah but Tims always been there from Early days as well.

  • @persimonezekiel4510
    @persimonezekiel4510 Жыл бұрын

    Wow!! Really like this song!!! I didn't expect to!

  • @downatheel66
    @downatheel66 Жыл бұрын

    Great to have some new music from the band. Up there with Block, Pride Before A Fall and Another Century as great teases for forthcoming albums.

  • @kerrylush5378
    @kerrylush5378 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful video

  • @keltonschleyer6367
    @keltonschleyer6367 Жыл бұрын

    Good work as always with them!

  • @henrybecerraticona4700
    @henrybecerraticona4700 Жыл бұрын

    La mejor banda de rock del mundo, Pasan los años y suenan mejor 👏🏻

  • @ryanx1334x
    @ryanx1334x Жыл бұрын

    wonderful , love it , hope you guys come back to seattle soon we miss you

  • @thomasnegovanonline
    @thomasnegovanonline Жыл бұрын

    Every album, this band just keeps getting better and better.

  • @isaiah5082

    @isaiah5082

    Жыл бұрын

    Geniunely curious if they've ever put out a bad/disappointing album

  • @christianc559

    @christianc559

    Жыл бұрын

    @@isaiah5082 Sometime Anywhere, and Magician Amongst the Sprits. (In my opinion)

  • @isaiah5082

    @isaiah5082

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christianc559 to be honest i havnt actually listened to sometime anywhere but i personally dont think magician is disapointing. I guess its weaker compared to most of their catalogue

  • @ronaldmilner8932
    @ronaldmilner8932 Жыл бұрын

    That was excellent! I have been a fan of The Church since the early '80's and I have never heard a bad Church song.

  • @mortalgargoyle2260
    @mortalgargoyle22603 ай бұрын

    Unjustly slept on, amazing.

  • @rexduffy7881
    @rexduffy7881 Жыл бұрын

    They've come a long way since that unguarded moment a lifetime ago.

  • @drewryan9752
    @drewryan9752 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic clip and song.

  • @duantorruellas716
    @duantorruellas716 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always, doesn't surprise me when it comes to these guys. The track and imagery, very nice. ⭐

  • @antoniolazarski9361
    @antoniolazarski9361 Жыл бұрын

    After many, many years, Finally, your back!!!!!!!!! When I say "after" and "many" I don't mean years; actually decades...

  • @JamesMuckleroy-kh2vv
    @JamesMuckleroy-kh2vv3 ай бұрын

    This grows on you … the intensity . Even with a different lineup it’s still the church … a la Pink which one is … hah …. But Jeffrey Cain makes a great difference he knows the sound and history and yet is progressive . Perfect add … it’s like the Isidore awesomeness added in . Tim sounds great . Ian rocks , welcome Ashley … keep rocking in the wasted world !!! Light is essential

  • @findingenvirons
    @findingenvirons Жыл бұрын

    Not that I've hung banners or taken orders, but rather assuming I were joining a band's military, I concur it would be The Church (whether 2022). The melody in the video is wonderful, the video lovely, and SK's voice and bass sound great. The Church's retrospective Deep in the Shallows had me back in your ranks again whenever I craved the steady psychedelia that your boys create. As a magnificent shock, I was glad to find the plan of your 1981 record, presently on Bandcamp (and somewhere else). It confirmed that Mr. Kilbey is back in business, and even better, that he was never gone in the first place. Streaming his Instagram feed put me in the quest state because nothing else but The Church proves your brand of mystery and, sometimes, hellfire. Keep us posted, gentlemen, but remember your wear when you leave. Like generally, soon.

  • @sovievillena
    @sovievillena Жыл бұрын

    Psicodelia oscura, te envuelve y te engulle conforme avanza la cancion. Una obra de arte!!

  • @faresjouda8176
    @faresjouda8176 Жыл бұрын

    Stunning as always. Great music 👏🏻

  • @bencarter6702
    @bencarter6702 Жыл бұрын

    Here for the audio moreso than video. An unexpected surprise in my KZread feed today. Australia's Marillion, really. Led by a Roger Waters type with an occasional Robert Smith mood.

  • @theswithenbookseries
    @theswithenbookseries Жыл бұрын

    Great video and wonderful song! Thanks for continuing to make great new music! Looking forward to the album! (also: Nice haircut, Steve! Looking good!)

  • @soulcuteltd655
    @soulcuteltd655 Жыл бұрын

    I has the same "aura" as "the disillusionist"