What a great and informative video! Can’t believe I’m seeing this days after your first ever posted video. Can’t wait to see your future work!

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) I'm looking forward to releasing some more videos soon!

Great video, Anglo-Saxon England is such an interesting time period of change

It would be more accurate to title this The Christianisation of Anglo Saxon East England. The old Celtic Kingdoms of the North and West (and Wales) were already Celtic Christian. When Paulinus arrived in York he found the Anglo Saxon King had already been converted to Christianity by the Celtic King of Rheged (North West England), but Paulinus baptised him again to the Roman Church. At the Synod of Whitby in 664 it was decided that the long established Church in Northern England would shift allegiance from the Celtic to Roman Church. Bede, as an Anglo Saxon Roman Church monk thought the Celtic Christian Britons were heretics and thus the Augustine mission reintroduced Christianity, it didn't.

I find this very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I can't say I completely agree with your opinion about the spread of Christianity., but that's how we learn I guess. Really great writing and editing skills.

@ekesandras1481

Жыл бұрын

The Germanic tribes in continetal Europe adopted Christianity fairly quickly, even before they even crossed into Roman lands. If the Anglo-Saxons would have renounced that trend, they would have remained outlaws, possible subjets of a Crusade. To be accepted in the family of nations, you had to become Christian. To legitimize your rule over former Roman land. Even the Vikings learned that, or the Hungarians, or the Eastern Slavs (today's Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians).

Great video! Believe it or not the reason I found it useful was because I am writing a dnd campaign and honestly its much better than what I expected

St Augustine of Canterbury and St Augustine of Hippo are both recognised as saints.

@timothyayomideogedengbe8295

10 ай бұрын

Correct. However, biblically, a born again Christian is a Saint.

@austingill2107

8 ай бұрын

Born Again refers to baptism. Not all baptized go to heaven unfortunately. The form of “born again” you’re referring to sounds like a man made evangelical belief which is not found in Scripture in this form.

@stephencrompton4352

Ай бұрын

Except a man be born again, he shall not see the kingdom of God.​@@austingill2107

anglo-saxons when preachers told them about Jesus the compasionate and loving prophet who helped poor and sick people: :/ anglo-saxons when preachers told them about Jesus the 7 ft blond powerful warrior who killed 100 enemy soldiers with one swing: :O

Very interesting and informative, thank you!

Thank you for a very good video! It has been a great help in my exam.

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm very glad it helped! Which exam are you doing?

@kennethrothman5511

Жыл бұрын

@@JustAnotherHistoryChannel Historical Theology and Church History at Saint Ignatios Academy. The question was on the Anglican Church and its development. This provided a solid historical framework to build upon.

Just when you think you have watched most things its nice to see a unique niche of history. Cheers

first view of your channel subscribed mid vid thx

I can´t believe there are only 3 likes for this video. It should be 3 million.

hi! i really like your content! could you maybe do a video about Queen Elizabeth I of England?

Very good video sir.

I appreciate the video, its pretty good and informative. I would just wish that you gave a bit more credit to the accounts of the missionaries and saints. Could've been more lively and interesting. We have the stories of 100s of saints miraculous engagements with pagans just not brought up. The listener is left to assume Christianity spread through politics and boring conversations of right thinking and clever speech between missionaries and Kings. Which certainly doesn't reflect the history of Christianity in the British Isles as experienced and accounted by our ancestors.

Keep up the great work

The sources are so few and we overestimate how accurate the few we have are, I think even after Christianity was legalised around 300 most Celts who lived outside of Urban centers probably carried on worshipping the old gods ( book UnRoman Britain by Russell and Laycock) also Anglo Saxon Kings being converted would not automatically convert the whole population, this needs investigating more and to me would have been a more interesting topic.

well done. i just love this story. always have.

Thank you for making this, very informative!

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Is there a statue of Aethelbert of Kent?? Often thought of how overlooked he is.

By some accounts the first Anglo-Saxons were invited to Britain since the locals need help fighting off the Scots and the Anglo-Saxons knew how to use Roman military tactics. But if the Anglo-Saxons had been exposed to the Roman army before leaving Europe, they would have also been exposed to Christianity before leaving Europe.

You missed a great opportunity to explain the origin of the word/name God. Its actually a shortened form of the Britton name for Wotan/Odin, that name being Godan. Our word for the one true deity of Abraham is actually our pagan ancestors' name for their supreme deity.

If the population of England remained largely Romano British how did Christianity die out under the Anglo Saxons? I would assume there would have been prevalent prosecution. Seems odd that they would convert to Germanic paganism. This is very different to the Celtic peoples of the isles who remained Christians.

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

Жыл бұрын

That's a great question, I haven't looked into that. I would suppose that the spread of Germanic paganism would have been closely linked to the spread of Old English and Germanic saxon culture. I wonder how widely christianity had spread across the population of Romano-British England under the Romans also - conversion seems to be a slow process, so it could be reasonable to suggest that Christianity wasn't totally entrenched by the time the Saxons arrived (I'm sure there's some research on this, I'll have to read into it more). Its incredibly hard to say for sure either way, since records are so scarce.

We'd have been better off if we stuck to our own Gods.

I'd like to know if Britons converted en mass from Christianity to Germanic paganism as they were assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons.

@way2tehdawn

4 ай бұрын

I don’t know the history but I’d doubt it. The Anglo-Saxon religion didn’t proselytise or try and reason, it just simply was their religion. However Christianity requires exclusivity to Christ so a Christian would have to renounce the Anglo-Saxon Gods, it also forbids a man to marry a non-Christian bride (women just had to do what they were told) whereas as Pagan man can marry a Christian woman and the Christian woman can influence the children and husband with affection. Christianity was also politically attractive as you could forge relations with Rome and the Holy Roman Empire which would make your position more secure, these international institutions didn’t exist amongst the Anglo-Saxon religion. Also there’s the issue of a lot more textual transmission of information among Christianity whereas there was almost nothing for the Anglo-Saxons. Everything was stacked against the Anglo-Saxon religion.

@Pretani_Chieftain

Ай бұрын

They actually recently found an Anglo Saxon grave that apparently had a Briton remain inside it. Interestingly he was buried in the Saxon Pagan tradition and even had pagan artwork with him, hinting that he likely converted to Paganism as the Saxons invaded Britain.

You really should re read the history of Augustine's mission. He had to meet with the bishops. Bishops? The pagans had bishops?

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

Жыл бұрын

They did not have bishops as far as I know! I don't remember saying Augustine had to meet with bishops in the video though?

5:10

Excellent video, I wonder if relations with the continent played a part in the appeal of conversion too. It's astounding that Christianity became so entrenched within basically a century after having been nearly wiped out. One wishes to see a world where this deceptive religion was managed to be chased away and paganism would have been able to survive and flourish.

At this point in time, Christianity was a wholly owned subsidiary managed by its CEO, the Pope, of the Roman empire. The church then acted in the same expansionist aggressive approach as befitting of an empire. Calling it conversion is a bit mild to say the least.

Funny I always thought St Patrick was from Cornwall.

Oh please. Augustine found when he got there that he had to deal with the local bishops. Pagans had bishops? Not actually. They were bishops of the Irish church, who had already converted most of the island. Since they were subsequently taken over by the Romans, they got written out of history.

I would like to see the return of the old gods, but I can't imagine that happening.

@AethelredTheReady

5 ай бұрын

What old gods? What are the tenets of your imaginary pagan belief system? Paganism is dead, and the beliefs you associate with it are modern inventions and estimations. You have no idea what you are even wishing for.

St. Palladius brough Christianity to Ireland, not Patrick.

The Anglican Church hmmm 🤔

Next do the islamicisation of England

@felipecortez1042

Жыл бұрын

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@NoobMaster-lv3fo

Жыл бұрын

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@cjclark1208

Жыл бұрын

Convert or die.

@StennMathis

Жыл бұрын

Nah they tried that. British were greatly enslaved by the ottoman empire. If islamization was gonna happen then that was their chance. Now millions are actually LEAVING islam (the media never reports much on that), whilst back then it was near impossible for someone born into islam to leave...

@davidvasey5065

Жыл бұрын

@@StennMathis go to leicester and try and find a white person

Why is Christianity not Paganism, while Germanic beliefs are called Paganism? Isn't it a fact, that it is only because of from which ever side one looks at religions, that it is "decided" which is Paganism and which is not? As far as I am personally concerned, it is Christianity, that is the Pagan belief. Brought to us by completely foreign desert dwellers, with completely foreign history, culture, and language. No, I want nothing to do with Christianity!!!

Christ conquers ☦️

@Void-ez2it

9 ай бұрын

Through deception and coercion.

@evolassunglasses4673

4 ай бұрын

​@@Void-ez2it so much of Christianity has been captured by Liberalism

@joshvarges9230

2 ай бұрын

​@@evolassunglasses4673 individuals and communities yes but not the witness itself. anyways its not something we didn't see coming our way we have been aware this is what will happen from the beginning

@Steven-dt5nu

17 күн бұрын

Actually Jesus releases you. Not conquered.

@Dovahkiin0117

7 күн бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673like he wasn’t a radical liberal calling for the end of imperial rule in his homeland 🤡 You goofy lad

Εξαιρετικό βίντεο (Greek), which means awesome video. Will it be too much to ask for some guidance? I'm writing a book for the British Saints to make them known to the Greek people. Apart from S. Bede's ecclesiastical history, Britannia Sancta, and Lives of British Saints (Baring, Fisher), what other books would you recommend to get some guidance for the spread of Christianity in Britain? Thanks.

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

9 ай бұрын

Γειά σου! Thank you, I'm very glad you enjoyed the video. Your book sounds like a fascinating project - I'm at work today, but I will go back over my research notes for this video over the weekend, and see if I can find some good recommendations for you!

@thessalonician

9 ай бұрын

@@JustAnotherHistoryChannel Cheers mate! It is, indeed. A time travel in history.

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

9 ай бұрын

@@thessalonician In terms of primary sources, there are quite a few saints lives that you could take a look at - I wrote my dissertation on the christianisation of Anglo-Saxon East Anglia, so I mainly focussed on saints and missionaries in that region. I'd recommends looking at Saint Fursey, he was an irish missionary active in the Saxon kingdom of East Anglia, seemingly under the auspices of the king of East Anglia (Transitus Beati Fursei - a translation of the 8th century manuscript ‘Life of Saint Fursey’, trans. Oliver Rackham (Norwich, 2007).). Saint Guthlac too is another interesting one (Felix’s Life of Saint Guthlac, ed. and trans. Bertram Colgrave (Cambridge, 1985).). You might also want to look at the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle alongside Bede's Ecclesiastical History. For secondary sources: - Brown's book on Fursey is useful to read alongside the 'Life of Saint Fursey' (Brown, Michelle P., The Life of St. Fursey - what we know; why it matters (Norwich, 2001).) - William Chaney on the importance of kingship in conversion will be useful (Chaney, William A., The Cult of Kingship in Anglo-Saxon England - The Transition from Paganism to Christianity (Manchester, 1970).) - Dunn on the Christianisation of England is fantastic (Dunn, Marilyn, The Christianization of the Anglo-Saxons c.597-c.700 - Discourses of Life, Death and Afterlife (London, 2009).) - This one is a little old but still great for an overview (Mayr-Harting, Henry, The Coming of Christianity to Anglo-Saxon England (London, 1972).) - Yorke's article on court conversion is specific to the aristocracy, but very interesting (Yorke, Barbara, ‘The Adaptation of the Anglo-Saxon Royal Courts to Christianity’, in Martin Carver (ed.), The Cross Goes North - Processes of Conversion in Northern Europe, AD 300-1300 (Woodbridge, 2003), pp. 243-258.) I'm not sure how much depth you'd like to go into but these should be a good starting point! If you'd like more recommendations feel free to email me - this was my area of research so I've got lots more primary and secondary sources if you need them!

@thessalonician

9 ай бұрын

@@JustAnotherHistoryChannel many thanks mate! Appreciated at most!! I will keep it relatively simple, as my goal is to present the lives of as many Saints as possible from Anglo-Saxons, Irish, Scots, and Welsh. I will also focus on Saints that have produced scripts, and I will try to name their most important. ie Bede's ecclesiastical history. Thanks again, and I'll keep you posted.

@JustAnotherHistoryChannel

9 ай бұрын

@@thessalonician I'd love to take a look at it when you're finished, let me know how you get on!