The Chinese Versys? 2022 CFMOTO 650 ADVentura Review | Daily Rider

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If you know Daily Rider you know we’re big fans of the Kawasaki Versys 650. Evidently, the engineers at CFMOTO are too! To see how this new bike stacks up to the competition, Zack takes to the tried-and-true Daily Rider route.
SPECS:
MSRP: $6,800
Engine: 649 cc parallel twin
Measured weight (w/ bags): 517 lb. / 234.5 kg
Fuel capacity: 4.75 gal. / 18 liters
Seat height: 32.3 in. / 820 mm
Claimed power: 60.3 hp @ 8,750 rpm
Claimed torque: 41.3 foot-pounds @ 7,000 rpm
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  • @RevZilla
    @RevZilla Жыл бұрын

    Read our comparison of the CFMoto 650 ADVentura, Versys 650, & the Tiger 660 on Common Tread! rvz.la/3RbN3Bt Tires running bald? Check out Michelin for some new rubber! rvz.la/3R3jfHj

  • @travisj2370

    @travisj2370

    Жыл бұрын

    go check out the cf moto 800 adventure / 800 MT it uses the KTM 790 engine and its built in the KTM china factory but for a super cheap price and it has cruise control and tire pressure monitors and heated grips and seat and crash bars and soo much more for way less then a big KTM adv or africa twin

  • @grandenauto3214

    @grandenauto3214

    Жыл бұрын

    @@travisj2370 meh it’ll last a fraction of the time… crap

  • @strix2035

    @strix2035

    Жыл бұрын

    Are we going to see a 2022 versys 650 video?

  • @giorgos4123

    @giorgos4123

    Жыл бұрын

    Διάβασα το συγκριτικό μεταξύ των μοτοσικλετών που αναφέρεις. Απλά είσαι άδικος με το Cf moto. Όσο αφορά την ανάρτηση. Τα άλλα δύο έχουν μόνο προφόρτιση ελατηρίου πίσω κάτι που τα κάνει λιγότερο ρυθμίσιμα από το cf moto. Το cf moto έχει και ρύθμιση επαναφοράς (η βιολετή βίδα) κάτι που είχαν τα πρώτα Versys 650 και κατέργησαν απλά βάζοντας ένα πιο φθηνό αμορτισέρ. Μιας και έχω την Cf moto 650 mt f3 euro 5 2021, είναι πιο σπορ και πιο άνετη και σε ταξίδι με δύο άτομα από τον βασιλιά της κατηγορίας v strom 650 που είχα από το 2008. Η απόδειξη είναι η σύζυγος που δεν μου ζητάει κάθε 100 χιλιόμετρα να κάνουμε στάση. Με σεβασμό στις γνώσεις σου.

  • @zackcourts2280
    @zackcourts2280 Жыл бұрын

    A few things I forgot to say in the video!: - 2 year warranty - Backlit switches! - USB port in the cockpit - No remote preload adjuster on the shock Thanks for watching, and be sure to read Ari’s article for details on the bike and the competition.

  • @cumnmrmptaaa4234

    @cumnmrmptaaa4234

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope to see more CFMoto daily rides

  • @109sssss

    @109sssss

    Жыл бұрын

    these reviews suck, you need to change the format and hire a camera man/crew

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    Жыл бұрын

    @@109sssss these POV gopro reviews are kind of the thing on youtube.

  • @jonathanmackie4884

    @jonathanmackie4884

    Жыл бұрын

    @@109sssss Ha! Lol. That's funny... You are kidding, right? Oh! Your not! Ok. Whooosh...

  • @TommyAngelo1337

    @TommyAngelo1337

    Жыл бұрын

    @@109sssss They have that on the channel too if you want.

  • @scoutrifle6827
    @scoutrifle6827 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the unbiased reviews that Zach, Ari and the rest of you guys do; it's nice to see someone not beholden to the manufacturers doing straight-up honest reviews.

  • @M8D4fun

    @M8D4fun

    10 ай бұрын

    Hardly unbiased due to his love to Versus

  • @wlt3585

    @wlt3585

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@M8D4funthis does just seem like a worse Versys, which is unfortunate because the 450SS separates itself enough to make it feel unique to the Ninja 400/500 imo. If someone was crosshopping these two, I can't understand why they'd get the 650 Adventura unless it happens to be way cheaper

  • @12masterr
    @12masterr Жыл бұрын

    My bmw 850gs mounted friend said to me "I will never buy a Chinese bike,ever", he almost have a heart attack when I said the bmw 850 engine is made in china!

  • @Mad-Mo

    @Mad-Mo

    Жыл бұрын

    Dont get a heart attack. HD builds in Thailand …

  • @lovelessissimo

    @lovelessissimo

    Жыл бұрын

    Big difference between buying a German bike assembled in China and buying a bike from a Chinese company. BMW sets their own production standards, does their own engineering, r&d, quality assurance, inspections, etc. That's why they are expensive. China reverse engineers, buys, or outright steals engine and chassis designs from other companies. They can't fix problems or refine anything if they don't know how the design came to be what it is.

  • @12masterr

    @12masterr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lovelessissimo the bmw 850 is not assembled in China, the engine only is made in china!

  • @lovelessissimo

    @lovelessissimo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12masterr same principle applies. BMW quality control is in place at the facility.

  • @rjlacaillade2519

    @rjlacaillade2519

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mad-Mo only in foreign markets though

  • @giepgrootpoot
    @giepgrootpoot Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 50 Daily Rider videos, Zack and team! 🙌 Here's to 650 more! 😜

  • @clue0001
    @clue0001 Жыл бұрын

    Finally a video about the CFMoto 650MT (or ADVentura) 😁 I've used it for a while now and I'm happy I got it.

  • @roccoracer
    @roccoracer10 ай бұрын

    I found one of these used. Believe it or not it has 0 miles. I can pick it up for $4600. It's very tempting.

  • @sunshowerpainting1
    @sunshowerpainting1 Жыл бұрын

    I'm happy to see you giving the CFMOTO some play. I have a 2022 CXL 700 Sport and an impressed thus far. Good bike nice price, great warranty.

  • @Butts0hboi

    @Butts0hboi

    Жыл бұрын

    Good beginner bike?

  • @Hatchetmanrrr

    @Hatchetmanrrr

    Жыл бұрын

    I just bought the 650 ADVentura. I was about to pull the trigget on the CXL 700. then I walked in the back of the showroom and saw this one. So far, I love it. smooth ride, I ride a BMW RT1250 for work... and besides the name (and the obvious other 650 CC's) im just as comfortable on the CFMoto as I am my work BMW... it's great!

  • @TheWrate
    @TheWrate10 ай бұрын

    I'm not in the market for a new bike but I still watch everyone of these vids Zac. Very well done always.

  • @joshuastewart7894
    @joshuastewart7894 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid Zach, I would really appreciate a quick rundown on headlight performance. For myself and many others, half our commute is in the dark so that would be a great addition to this awesome series!

  • @thebear6529

    @thebear6529

    Жыл бұрын

    headlight performance? oh please!

  • @PapaSmurfx93

    @PapaSmurfx93

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s Chinese, stay away

  • @magellanicspaceclouds
    @magellanicspaceclouds Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for more variety! I've been asking for that.

  • @Jay-ehn
    @Jay-ehn Жыл бұрын

    YYEEEEAAAHHHHH. They have the NA headquarters here in MN and I see the 700 series so more often than you’d think.

  • @grahamnelson5376
    @grahamnelson5376 Жыл бұрын

    The navigation directions showing the distance to the turn in inches is mind bogglingly weird

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    Жыл бұрын

    It really made me lol. I always think of computers as cold logical things so it catches me off gard when software does something silly

  • @mfennell70

    @mfennell70

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a developer somewhere who has never used a NAV not set to metric.

  • @jeeewhyyypheee

    @jeeewhyyypheee

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe because they forget to implements "feet/foot" 🤣

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын

    From what I got from the video, this is basically a 1st gen Versys 650, for a 1st gen Versys 650 price. As someone who owns a 2009 Versys 650, this really does sound like a comparison of the 1st gen vs the 3rd/4th gen, except for the display, the 1st and 2nd gen V650 have literally the best non-TFT displays in existence, they get the analog tach, digital speedo, fuel gauge, easy to read, easy to use, formula down pat.

  • @jeeewhyyypheee

    @jeeewhyyypheee

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes you are correct. The CF Moto 650 used the same/similar engine basis as first gen kawasaki 650. I can really tell how similar the engine looks are.

  • @Pfeiffer-fp2se
    @Pfeiffer-fp2se Жыл бұрын

    would love to see a daily rider review for all sizes of cfmotos motorcycle line up! The 300nk looks like a fun lil bike that can do super light highway riding but really want to see a real deep dive review like this on it.

  • @gelfyd1
    @gelfyd1 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Zach. Awesome review.

  • @475murphy
    @475murphy Жыл бұрын

    5 yr warranty from our local dealer, I'll give it a try

  • @budlistar5312
    @budlistar5312 Жыл бұрын

    I stopped last week and checked these out at our local dealer. Good looking bikes. But they had street tires on the Adventura and block tread 30/70 tires on the pure street bikes. Salesman wondered about that too. Time will tell.

  • @collectivelogic
    @collectivelogic Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget that used, nearly new motorcycles from reputable brands can be had for the price of this and lower. CF need time to prove their quality. But I'm hopeful competition like this will help slow down the price move upmarket from the established brands.

  • @Vladhalla

    @Vladhalla

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah but where I live you can’t trust the used market, here they trash the bikes a lot and also you find very old bikes at the prices of cfmoto with lots of km/miles, a 2001 SV650 goes at 3000€ while my Cfmoto 300nk was 4000€ new, I know different engines but I felt safer this way.

  • @John_Ridley

    @John_Ridley

    Жыл бұрын

    CFMoto has been in non-US markets for several years and have a pretty good reputation. I'm hoping that they force the big 4 to start putting cruise control on their bikes. I really don't want to buy a bike without it anymore but the cost from anyone else of a bike with it is almost double.

  • @RiderXp
    @RiderXp11 ай бұрын

    I test rode it back to back with a Tiger 660, Versys 650 and VStrom 650 and came back pretty impressed with the fit and finish and general quality of the equipment. I have to agree though, that in terms of feel, it felt very similar to the Versys 650. It's probably going to be liked a lot by people who wanted a better dash and a newer look on the Versys 650. My personal favorite among the 4 is the VStrom 650 tbh.

  • @hammadnayyar7454
    @hammadnayyar7454 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man for the review was waiting of this is a good bike or not

  • @AleksiJoensuu
    @AleksiJoensuu Жыл бұрын

    I test rode one of these, or, well, a european equivalent the CF Moto 650 MT, for a couple of days. I basically agree with everything Zach said. It's not as good as a Versys (or other Japanese bikes I've owned or test ridden). But it is cheaper. I would also buy a used Japanese bike over this or save up. But I definately understand that it's a lot cheaper and comes with a warranty. And if you're the type for whom a warranty is important, then there you go. The "Will China be the next Japan" -question is interesting. I think we should ask "Does China want to be the next Japan?" I mean, is that what they're striving for - to build better, higher quality, more reliable bikes than everyone else on the market and sort of "take over"? Or is this in fact what they're aiming for already: Bikes that are similar, a little worse, but quite a lot cheaper? I don't know. I do believe the market is always ready for someone to build something better and sell it for cheaper or the same price. Why not? So my question is, will the chinese do it?

  • @LLG47

    @LLG47

    Жыл бұрын

    If you buy a Japanese bike, you probably won't need a warranty.

  • @brianrobinson7972
    @brianrobinson7972 Жыл бұрын

    Well done zack another Interesting daily rider !!

  • @anthonysilvestri4946
    @anthonysilvestri4946 Жыл бұрын

    That bike isn't perfect but still is much better than driving a car to work every day! 😊

  • @roccoracer
    @roccoracer4 ай бұрын

    I bought my 2022 very cheap. I was only able to put 300 miles on it before winter. So far, I really like it. It seems to be well built. Time will tell.

  • @jaykoerner

    @jaykoerner

    4 ай бұрын

    I just bought a new 2022 yesterday, all In after the loans paid off I'll be out 5700 including taxes and registration, 4700 if I pay it off in 6 months(zero apr for 6 months), Granted this was a bike stuck on the floor for 2 years and the dealer wanted it gone, and it had a few miles on it(41) from a few test rides

  • @roccoracer

    @roccoracer

    4 ай бұрын

    It is a great bike at that price. I paid $5000 out the door for mine with 6 miles. I really like the bike so far.

  • @disekjoumoer
    @disekjoumoer Жыл бұрын

    P.S. the KTM-esque design is because Kiska, KTM's in-house design agency also does CFMoto's design.

  • @JMoroccoMisterBoy

    @JMoroccoMisterBoy

    Жыл бұрын

    True, somewhere in Minnesota.

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald286110 ай бұрын

    The 2023 has rebound adjustment front, and rebound/preload rear. The tires are Pirelli Angel GTs, and the forks and shock are KYB units. The US warranty is two years.This bike is clearly a work in progress, but the company seems to be paying attention. With the suspension adjusted and a change of tires, the 2023 bike should be able to handle some light duty off-road riding just fine.

  • @MJT-DA
    @MJT-DA Жыл бұрын

    CFMOTO: Can i copy your homework? Kawasaki: Sure but change it up a bit CFMOTO:

  • @thicctomato4977

    @thicctomato4977

    Жыл бұрын

    It's funny because that's what Kawasaki has been doing for decades 😂

  • @lt1nut

    @lt1nut

    Жыл бұрын

    Hold on, CFMoto asked?!!!

  • @hansthurfjell

    @hansthurfjell

    Жыл бұрын

    CFMoto actually makes stuff for Kawasaki and KTM, or rather, current KTM design house is designing for CFMoto and Kawasaki has a deal with CFMoto for production

  • @kinangeagle133
    @kinangeagle133 Жыл бұрын

    Other Japanese cruiser bikes have been waiting for their spotlight on Revzilla. Also, thank god a big moto channel finally posted something about CFMOTO. They have an 800cc touring bike that starts at 10,000 USD where im from. The fact that CFMOTO reportedly use KTM and Kawasaki engines, since they apparently produce them is the main selling point coupled with the prices

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not worried about the engine so much as everything else around it. the dash on my Chinese bike died before 2k miles for example.

  • @milodiaz5612
    @milodiaz5612 Жыл бұрын

    "I don´t know why were going so fast" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you killed me

  • @TheMachRider
    @TheMachRider Жыл бұрын

    Rode one for a little bit and decided it's perfect for someone who hasn't ridden anything nicer. It will absolutely draw people in with the features and unless they're already a veteran rider with a wide portfolio of bike experience. The thing this bike doesn't do as well as the competition (balance, roughness, chassis stiffness) is not going to be immediately apparent to someone who hasn't experienced something better. Hats off to making a solid bike for cheap.

  • @Mrmarcie

    @Mrmarcie

    Жыл бұрын

    I come from an Aprilia Shiver and love my Adventure. The Shiver I can't drive to the limits, the Adventura I can. It's much more comfortable, not as loud and easier to use for short vacations.

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    Жыл бұрын

    There's quite a bit of reviewers that disagree with you. Cotw apparently bought one in his arsenal. Owner of GS and other pretty damn solid choices.

  • @mickstafford456

    @mickstafford456

    11 ай бұрын

    Since the engine is pretty much a copy of the Kawasaki 650, I can only assume that it's the fuel mapping that makes it feel different.

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mickstafford456 to my understanding its KTM engine. Not Kawasaki.

  • @mickstafford456

    @mickstafford456

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jothain Styling is by the same styling house as KTM. The 650 engine is a copy of the Kawasaki 650. Bore and stroke are the same. Even the rear suspension is modelled on the ER6.

  • @boxz1984
    @boxz1984 Жыл бұрын

    Them mirrors are adjustable, slide that sleeve down and tighten the bolt.

  • @maddog1072
    @maddog10725 ай бұрын

    Just picked up a new 2023 650 for 4k in Arizona end of year sale.

  • @Rkolb2798
    @Rkolb2798 Жыл бұрын

    It’s one of those things, that with some mapping and suspension work it would be pretty good for the money .

  • @BensjunkyardDrifters
    @BensjunkyardDrifters Жыл бұрын

    Just got one today same color love it

  • @Mano__Tony

    @Mano__Tony

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey, do you still like the bike? I'm thinking of buying one

  • @christophercake7419
    @christophercake74198 ай бұрын

    I love the in-depth reviews you provide. I have watched dozens of them. I am currently on a 2000 Honda Valkyrie. As an older rider, I am considering a transition to three wheels. I would be interested in your opinion / review of a Can Am Ryker 600, or a Piaggio MPE500 Scooter to gain a little on MPG and stability. Thanks again for the great content. I am a new subscriber!

  • @alocrius4277

    @alocrius4277

    7 ай бұрын

    3 wheels is an inherently unstable platform

  • @serjezati4244
    @serjezati4244 Жыл бұрын

    I like that aquarium thing on the right handlebar

  • @FastMav347
    @FastMav347 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative video, I think CFmoto needs to take a page out of Kia/Hyundai playbook and offer an insane warranty to kinda smooth out potential reliability issues. That might help the resale value aspect as well.

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    Жыл бұрын

    Your right but I also just need time. A long time warranty does not matter if they pull out of the US market in 2 years. I'm ok with Kia/Hyundai, but I also have been around them for 20+ years

  • @whimsicalstray

    @whimsicalstray

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think they will. They're going more of the Royal Enfield route of selling bikes because they're cheap. Unlike Royal Enfield, they load them up with all kinds of tech. I think Royal Enfield is more committed, just looking at their race programs and other neat marketing displays (like riding to a pole.) I'd be more interested in CFmoto if they stopped undercutting established brands with knock offs and did something more original.

  • @grandenauto3214

    @grandenauto3214

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dave-sw2dm and to it’s no Kawasaki

  • @ws8080

    @ws8080

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dave-sw2dm Every dealer in my neighborhood is selling and supporting them, and they are actually in stock vs "in transit" or "pre-order for January" on the other brands right now.

  • @stubbingtonmarigold3032

    @stubbingtonmarigold3032

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha - they won’t because they know how they save costs on making the same motorcycle... I will give you a clue: quality.

  • @EduanSteenkamp
    @EduanSteenkamp Жыл бұрын

    I have the CFmoto 1280-2 TR-G here in Beijing, you should do a review about this motorcycle. It is amazing !!!

  • @SGTvolcan
    @SGTvolcan Жыл бұрын

    I bought a Chinese Dong Fang DF250-RTT last Saturday to get me started in the world of motorcycles. With the bike being as to repair and maintain it will be a base line to learn from. I have noticed something quite funny. On the registration the bike is called a "Dong", and seeing as the bike is White. I always joke with people on how i'm riding around with the 300lb White Dong between my legs. Just a childish chuckle. Please note, don't take anything from China down trails, they do break very easily.

  • @masheralive3025

    @masheralive3025

    Жыл бұрын

    hahahaha nice Dong ya got

  • @gregorymccoy6797

    @gregorymccoy6797

    Жыл бұрын

    As a person with a juvenile sense of humor, I applaud this.

  • @sssss8700

    @sssss8700

    Жыл бұрын

    I bought a hawk 250 recently and it’s actually not bad on trails but despite the name it doesn’t like to fly or more specifically land. A not quite waist high jump at around 40 MPH resulted in a broken tail light housing and a bent foot peg and I’m amazed that’s all that happened. Needless to say it no longer leaves the ground.

  • @SGTvolcan

    @SGTvolcan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sssss8700 Yeah, the Dong Fang bikes will get you around....just never jump with them.

  • @REZrblde

    @REZrblde

    Жыл бұрын

    "Hey,what do you ride?" "I ride a Dong" "What?" "Its big and white,it feels good to ride but it vibrates when i go over 70" "WHAT?"

  • @peterk671
    @peterk671 Жыл бұрын

    My buddy (who is learning) has an earlier version of this bike. I would say it is an average bike for a fairly cheap price and not bad to learn on. He is 6'4 and finding bikes that fit him with the license restrictions in Australia makes it a reasonable choice.

  • @chrispekel5709

    @chrispekel5709

    Жыл бұрын

    Take the little block out that stops the throttle opening fully, the bike really opens up under WOT then

  • @robdunning2393

    @robdunning2393

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@chrispekel5709 took the restrictor (?) off my 2017 650MT and it sure helped👍

  • @GBeWinginIt
    @GBeWinginIt Жыл бұрын

    Aaaaaugh Sooooo! I’ll stick with the Japanese and other reliable and established motorcycle and scooter manufacturers. Great video.

  • @adarngoodjoe4043
    @adarngoodjoe4043 Жыл бұрын

    Used Versys all day. I bet it's easier to get parts as well.

  • @kleinbottled79

    @kleinbottled79

    Жыл бұрын

    All week and twice on a Sunday. If I wanted to wonder if I was gonna make it where I was going I would ride Italian and at least look good.

  • @intergalacticbasketballdro7186

    @intergalacticbasketballdro7186

    Жыл бұрын

    💁🏼‍♂️ All Day,... 🕺(and All Night long, too) ! 🌃🏍️💨 Kawasaki Versys 650

  • @tallboy2234
    @tallboy2234 Жыл бұрын

    Great Video! 👍😀

  • @alenfora1400
    @alenfora1400 Жыл бұрын

    Hope you guys do mt800 review seems realy great bike for the money

  • @lonniecross4698
    @lonniecross4698 Жыл бұрын

    I’m trying to buy less chicom stuff…. But thanks for the video.

  • @p3kab00icu

    @p3kab00icu

    Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU FOR CARING ABOUT THE FUTURE

  • @SimonBrisbane

    @SimonBrisbane

    Жыл бұрын

    100%. Don’t feed the communist beast.

  • @MegaTatatatira
    @MegaTatatatira Жыл бұрын

    I have this bike for 3y.. all right. It is not as Versys, but.. and that is big BUT... Kawa is 50% more expensive than CF.. and it is not 50% better bike. As value for money, this is better choise.

  • @kawabungah20
    @kawabungah20 Жыл бұрын

    Daily Rider diversity across the spectrum of the motorcycle industry is really appreciated here. This mark seems to me to be similar to Royal Enfield coming from a different direction. Thanks for the honest and ernest review!

  • @kenc2257

    @kenc2257

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really. Royal Enfield came to India as a partnership (with Madras Motors), and the initial 'Indian' Royal Enfields were assembled kits. Later, the bikes were manufactured under license, with tooling equipment purchased from Royal Enfield. As far as I know, the CFMOTO bikes are 'home-grown' in Hangzhou, China,

  • @DerKanalism
    @DerKanalism Жыл бұрын

    Hey Zac and Daily Rider team, could you also provide metric torque number in Nm. That would be great!

  • @joeblow5037
    @joeblow5037 Жыл бұрын

    I have no choice on my phone.....but I don't mind paying a little extra for proven Japanese quality.

  • @Chris-yy7qc
    @Chris-yy7qc Жыл бұрын

    Cool bike. The sound gives me CB500 vibes and throws be back in time. 😄 And just like you I appreciate the unique looks. But I wish the bike would have a little bit more power. Maybe around 80-90 HP? 60 HP is a bit outdated nowerdays imho...

  • @HightLink
    @HightLink Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a honest review! The question for me is, is the CFmoto worth buying against a bike from ~2012? as that's how much a suzuki/honda/kawasaki second hand costs to buy and service. thx!

  • @rotorhead5000
    @rotorhead5000 Жыл бұрын

    Guy I know got the sport bike 700 CF makes, and it's honestly a handsome bike. My assessment of that vs the mt07 is about same as this vs the kawasaki 650, the cf's aren't as good, but they are a good option for what dollars vs what you get. Are the existing brand bikes better? Yes, absolutely, but are they the price difference better? That's a harder question to answer, depending on what really matters to you. Buddy with the 700 is looking at it as a starter sport bike, and wants to step up to an entry level Ducati in another year.

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    Жыл бұрын

    I think if you sell your bike should factor in two. I pay more for Honda but when I go to sell it I get about the same amount as I put in. But I have a feeling if I buy a cf im going to loose a lot of value when I go to get another bike.

  • @rotorhead5000

    @rotorhead5000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Agree 100%, resale should come into it a lot of you are using it as a stepping stone to something else.

  • @stubbingtonmarigold3032

    @stubbingtonmarigold3032

    Жыл бұрын

    In America there are way too many low mileage used good motorcycle to be messing with a bargain bin bike... and speaking of bargain bin bikes how does 80mph on the absolutely cheapest swing arm sound? How about the cheapest steel frame or brake rotors ?

  • @rotorhead5000

    @rotorhead5000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stubbingtonmarigold3032 The thing is, on these bikes they aren't the cheapest swingarms and brake components. There is no reason a part put of China can't be just as good as a part out of Japan or Germany or another country of origin you wouldn't think twice about. Everyone does look down on Chinese parts because they are usually built down to a price, specifically for the purpose of undercutting what else is there for the sake of gaining market share, but when they actually want to make a good part as opposed to a cheap part, they are capable. Hell, CF makes the engines for most lower trim ktms and no one thinks twice about those.

  • @robdunning2393

    @robdunning2393

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@rotorhead5000 your onto it, they have Spanish J Juan brakes on them too which is now a subsidiary of Brembo. Sometimes you've gotta dig a little deeper aye....

  • @punchbuggyyellow7097
    @punchbuggyyellow7097 Жыл бұрын

    When the CF Moto 650 range landed here in Australia in 2012 I was surprised that it looked almost identical to my '06 ER-6F/Ninja 650 in almost every way except for the plastics. It was a similar story with their smaller capacity bikes looking suspiciously like a copy of a more famous brands model. It's basically the same model that Hyundai used with their cars back in the beginning, copying another brand's car (Mazda) & re-skinning it to make it look different. Hyosung, a Korean motorcycle brand, came out about 10 years earlier than CF Moto & took a different route, releasing their own designs based around a 250cc & 650cc V Twin engine. As a manufacturer who made engines for Suzuki, Hyosung had more credibility in the market than CF Moto. Fast forward to today & there are plenty of 8-10 year old CF Moto bikes for sale in the second hand market that are still going strong. That's not something that you could say about early 8-10 year old Hyundai's back in the day. Hyosung, on the other hand, quickly developed a reputation for unreliability & it's almost impossible to find a used one that doesn't have a fault or 10 keeping it off the road. CF Moto makes agricultural versions of better Japanese & Euro/Indian motorcycles, and the purchase price reflects it. But, as the Australian market experiment has shown, with care & maintenance they can last well beyond the warranty period. They might even be more reliable than the motorcycle manufacturer that they are copying - cough *KTM* cough.

  • @SimonBrisbane

    @SimonBrisbane

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine buying a Chinese bike though. Pretty shameful, especially after their economic coercion and bans on Australian exporters. The Chinese Government can do what it wants because it knows people will keep buying it’s crap.

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember Hyosung, it was mostly known stateside for making a cut rate copy of a SV650.

  • @chrispekel5709

    @chrispekel5709

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SimonBrisbane that's true, but on the flipside not everyone in china is in the CCP - they're just normal people trying to run a business. I do get your point though

  • @pauls8456

    @pauls8456

    Ай бұрын

    @@SimonBrisbanethey still buy most of our varieties of special rocks and agricultural products, one of the main reasons we can afford buy whatever bikes we want here….

  • @dearbulls
    @dearbulls Жыл бұрын

    I bought a cfmoto 700 clx sport this year. And it's been a blast for me. I felt it's a better bike than my old ninja 650R on every aspects, but still have the familiar kawaii 650 engine feel. I'm looking forward to seeing your test and thoughts on this bike.

  • @Mano__Tony

    @Mano__Tony

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey how is the bike? I'm thinking in buy one .

  • @dearbulls

    @dearbulls

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mano__Tony it's great. Still loving it every bit. It had some issue with the ABS that manufacturer quickly did a recall on it (dealer updated software). Other than that, everything was good. I just took it to a skilled rider course at my local Harley dealer where I took my MSF course before. This bike made those practice super easy, comparing to the street 500 we were learned on last time. Like the figure 8 u-turn box, I had a hard time to keep it in the 24ft box with the street 500 (which is -0 point for licensure exam on a 500+cc bike), but I was able to even do it inside the 20ft box with 700 sport, which that little box was designed for smaller under 500cc bikes. And everyone in class admired it after seeing my performance on it, despite mine being the cheapest in class (there're a triumph rocket 3 and a MT-07 in the small class). The dude on Mt-07 was closest to my slow speed performance, and rocket is closest to my cornering speed, but both are not getting close to it at all. I did scraped my boot once on the peanut shaped course practice after pushing it a bit hard. And that's the only time I thought the foot pegs could be a little more up and back. However, the riding triangle is very comfortable on road, so nothing to complaint there.

  • @dearbulls

    @dearbulls

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mano__Tony however, I do feel the brembo stylema brakes and pirelli tires (both are same as what Ducati panigale v4s uses) are an overkill for this bike, lol.

  • @dearbulls

    @dearbulls

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mano__Tony buy it, you won't regret.

  • @rogerzhang2335
    @rogerzhang2335 Жыл бұрын

    Fun facts for yall in the comments: 1. Competition is always good. 2. If you have existing bias towards a certain brand, don't post another comment on it, nobody cares. 3. If some products are not available for sale in the US ≠ its not good, don't take you guys too seriously.

  • @SimonBrisbane

    @SimonBrisbane

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure sure mr “Zhang”. Every rider I know laugh at people riding CF Moto and Chinese bikes.

  • @rogerzhang2335

    @rogerzhang2335

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SimonBrisbane Yup, bird of a feather, flock together. That means you and your folks are the same level.

  • @cybr600
    @cybr600 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Zac, thanks for reviewing the CF moto. This bike caught my eyes a week ago and couldn't figure out what brand it is as I had never heard of it. Your video just came on time. One question though on the Daily Rider board. Why is BMW s1000rr even there? It has been working just as a benchmark for the worst bike. Given that it is not a dedicated commute bike, I struggle to understand why it is there on the board, anyway. As an owner of S1000rr approching my 50's with not perfect knee and back health, it is pretty comfortable bike for a 100 km trip. Thanks

  • @ozarksbackroads5484
    @ozarksbackroads5484 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see the CFMoto 700 on Daily Rider as well... :)

  • @MrTrevorkemp
    @MrTrevorkemp Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see some benelli's on the daily rider leaderboard. Maybe start with the TNT 135. If anyone else would like to see that, please feel free to give this comment a thumbs up.

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see Zack check out the 700 CLX.

  • @SB-fe4gt
    @SB-fe4gt4 ай бұрын

    Giggle Score...great idea, please include the Giggle Score on the Daily Rider Leader Board for all the bikes you test in the future. Thank You

  • @tbraun513
    @tbraun5132 ай бұрын

    I have an Aprilia Tuono 660 but I've been starting to think about this as more a commuter for work with the bags on the back so I can bring my work lunches, drinks, and equipment. The Aprilia would be more my fun bike. I thought about the CFMoto sportbike but I'm not sure my wrists want to go back to a sportbike.

  • @blainepaulus2230
    @blainepaulus2230 Жыл бұрын

    Where does the adventure gain its weight over the versys, do the engines share internal geometry, is there any parts compatibility? I'm just curious if I could shave weight from the cfmoto. I'm also curious if I could go to a Kawasaki dealer and order versus parts for maintenance.

  • @barryvercueil2346
    @barryvercueil2346 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome sponsor!!!! Definitely my favorite Tyre brand.

  • @anthonysilvestri4946

    @anthonysilvestri4946

    Жыл бұрын

    *Tire

  • @faizrasid713

    @faizrasid713

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthonysilvestri4946 tire for US. Tyre for UK. Your both not wrong though 😅

  • @anthonysilvestri4946

    @anthonysilvestri4946

    Жыл бұрын

    @@faizrasid713 I know - I was just busting his balls! LOL

  • @faizrasid713

    @faizrasid713

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthonysilvestri4946 i also know that. Just busting yours too. Kidding 🤣🤣🤣

  • @SpicyThaiTacos

    @SpicyThaiTacos

    4 ай бұрын

    Come on, Anthony. Find some culture. The world is a large and diverse stomping ground. 🤣@@anthonysilvestri4946

  • @chrisd4813
    @chrisd4813 Жыл бұрын

    Will you be doing the 800 too? I’m super keen to pick one up in the next year.

  • @BudFox559
    @BudFox559 Жыл бұрын

    It may be just me, but I wasn't that impressed with the Versys. I rode it and ended up with a V-Stom, The Versys is like somebody at Kawasaki roll in a 650 ninja and said, let's make an ADV bike out ot this. they changed the suspension, the cam and a few other goodies, and called it a Versys. I just felt like the V-Strom was a better bike. The engine on the V-strom was better that any on the Versys. You can't blame China for filling the void in the motorcycle market now the the industry is pulling all the artificial inventory shortage shenanigans.

  • @judge831
    @judge831 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds better than I expected

  • @kristopherbell7158
    @kristopherbell7158 Жыл бұрын

    If i bought this id always think about how good the Japanese bikes are for a little more money...

  • @stubbingtonmarigold3032

    @stubbingtonmarigold3032

    Жыл бұрын

    This will have weird wear and tear ... Japanese bikes are already made in cheap markets, so what did they cut to make the same motorcycle? .... we all know it’s gonna be quality

  • @dragoclarke9497

    @dragoclarke9497

    Жыл бұрын

    Have to agree. Here in UK you'd only be saving just over £1,200 (about $1,400 at the current exchange rate) compared to the Kawasaki Versys 650. I've done 28,000 trouble free miles on my Versys in the last 3 years and would say a used Versys would be better quality and value for money.

  • @pablocarballeira4443

    @pablocarballeira4443

    Жыл бұрын

    It deppends of how the unit goes with the time,no matter the brand,my friend blew up a ninja 650 2021 going 5000rpm chill,and I have that cf650mt with 20000km and none problems,revving the shit out of It and like the first day,they only cut on some plastics,brake,electric brands etc(but still very good brands)

  • @jackjohnson9811

    @jackjohnson9811

    Жыл бұрын

    While I do agree that the Japanese offerings are likely more reliable I’m always in favor of new players on the market. With no competition manufacturers get lazy. Plus the Chinese are plenty capable of manufacturing quality products if they put their mind to it. We tend to forget that China is no longer what it was 20-30 years ago. It’s more advanced than most western nations in some aspects. Will I still ride my Japanese bikes? Oh yeah. But I wouldn’t condemn CFMoto right off the bat, everyone deserves a chance… and to be honest their 700 CLX looks more fresh than anything else for that money. Time will tell, I’d love to track their progression as a brand.

  • @muzikdanalam908
    @muzikdanalam9085 ай бұрын

    Hi Zach, can you make a review about the CFmoto 700mt, Thanks.

  • @cliftonsr
    @cliftonsr Жыл бұрын

    I hear a lot about the 2022 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro and I would love to know how it is for a daily rider and where it stacks up with the others you have on the board.

  • @Bendc1970A1
    @Bendc1970A1 Жыл бұрын

    My computer says I'm getting over 60 MPG but my calculations are telling me I'm getting 49-51 MPG.

  • @svaralen
    @svaralen Жыл бұрын

    Nice bike, will to do the review of the new 2022 honda cb500x maybe!? ✌️

  • @AussieTrucking
    @AussieTrucking Жыл бұрын

    YESSSS YOUVE DONE IT! In aus its 650MT. I dont know what MT means but hey. We have a different dash I would love to have the one that you have. I get 4.5L per 100km get 230km before the fuel light comes on. I am on the heavy side. Everything you've said are the same pros and cons I have. We have sport and touring modes. I dont know the difference. I've tried to find more info and I can't. I can do about 4 hrs without stopping. Standing for a minute every once every 90min helps. New tyres will help I'm planning on getting a new pair. I do road mainly, scrapping the footpegs with a semi neutral spine and hooks well. Roll on around 4500-5000 RPM. I do want to get my seat redone with more foam, tail tidy, mirrors, and additional windshield to add more height for wind deflection. I've put 8k km. Better than the 300nk for sure. Parts some parts its a little wait there are other parts that are in stock with dealers.

  • @SimonBrisbane

    @SimonBrisbane

    Жыл бұрын

    You bought a Chinese bike? How embarrassing..

  • @AussieTrucking

    @AussieTrucking

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SimonBrisbane didnt want to spend $15k on a bike I probs wouldnt learn much on and would have hated it.

  • @chrispekel5709

    @chrispekel5709

    Жыл бұрын

    The new ones in aus have the TFT as well mate

  • @truck212121
    @truck212121 Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't find the Mt 800 so I bought a Harley road King 2022 !

  • @vitoponzio2234
    @vitoponzio2234 Жыл бұрын

    Basically a cheaper KTM ... silent partner, per se ... by $3K vs. the Kawi Versys. Oh yeah, sold. Would love to see a review of the CFMoto 800 ADV model.

  • @sissonsk
    @sissonsk10 ай бұрын

    Starting next year I will want a bike to commute 190 miles each weekend in one direction. I need a bike that costs around $6k and gets at least 50 mpg. I plan on taking back roads and keeping my speed to around 65 mph. I don't need a sexy or fast bike. I need a reliable and comfortable bike. The CFMoto looks like the bike I need. I'm also considering the KLR 650 or the RE Himalayan.

  • @tomofnorthcal
    @tomofnorthcal Жыл бұрын

    that’s my jacket…. Glad you like it…

  • @mark222b
    @mark222b Жыл бұрын

    Wow, was that Nav showing inch units while you were on the dirt? Oh, spoke too soon, you pointed it out near the end.

  • @tyboynton2173
    @tyboynton2173 Жыл бұрын

    When I look at the Adventura I kind of see a mini Motus. Minus the transverse heads popping out lol.

  • @frannciscoosornio8529
    @frannciscoosornio85292 ай бұрын

    I've seen this as low as 5800$ new from the dealer and used one with low miles as 4000 I'm very tempted to get 1

  • @AysKalz

    @AysKalz

    Ай бұрын

    $3999

  • @thealvaco
    @thealvaco Жыл бұрын

    I put the auto subtitles on and Ari was named Harry, Erie and Gary consecutively. Thought that was kinda funny.

  • @derived3436
    @derived3436 Жыл бұрын

    I bought one of these bikes about 4 months ago it has about 900 miles now. It is my daily just to work and back. I completely agree about the mirrors they just feel cheap and can’t see anything out of them considering how much they vibrate. As for throttle response First feels pretty jerky second and third is the sweet spot and then the major power loss after that most I’ve done is 90mph. It is a great daily and a perfect first bike but I’m ready for an upgrade. Side note: no under seat storage, and seeing from other reviews on KZread they never fill the oil right from the dealership it’s always about half a quart low Any other questions I’ll try my best to answer as well Great video!

  • @alib7877

    @alib7877

    Жыл бұрын

    Does it have cruise control?

  • @derived3436

    @derived3436

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alib7877 It does not sadly

  • @armymxere5

    @armymxere5

    Жыл бұрын

    How’s it do in hwy ? cruse good at 70-80

  • @randomgamerist2642

    @randomgamerist2642

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello bro can you say it's reliable?

  • @MchalesNavy
    @MchalesNavy Жыл бұрын

    I have the previous model of this bike in Australia. The ride modes are decorative. Mine has 'sports' and 'touring', no change to the old style lcd dash, but a push button in/out to switch and a display of sports/touring. Absolutely no difference at all.

  • @ice2inferno
    @ice2inferno Жыл бұрын

    I am interested on your thoughts about the CFMOTO 800 ADVentura T thats being released in the states. Is it more of the same comments, observation from the 650 ADVentura? Is the bang for the buck worth it for the 800 or stick with a Versys or V-Strom?

  • @spoonyfork
    @spoonyfork Жыл бұрын

    Would like to see a review of the Ducati DesertX

  • @matiasgonzalez4738
    @matiasgonzalez47382 ай бұрын

    Great Video

  • @ThePlatonius
    @ThePlatonius Жыл бұрын

    I have owned a 2020 model 650 MT (in Europe its called 650MT) and rode 8k km on it. Its a great bike for the price. Only two reasons I sold mine a month ago. 1) I'm 182 cm (6ft or so) and on long trips (1k km a day) my knees felt cramped. 2) I rebuilt my other bike and now rode that instead every time I wanted to go on a ride. After 10k km on the other bike and only riding 350km on CFMOTO I decided to sell it and let someone else use it. In my country CFMOTOs come whit 3 year warranty as well.

  • @mrvwbug4423

    @mrvwbug4423

    Жыл бұрын

    The irony is, both the 650 Adventura and the Versys 650 have high pegs and can get a little cramped on long rides.

  • @bradaltemeyer4472
    @bradaltemeyer4472 Жыл бұрын

    looks good, for a beginner moto I recommend mine, 1990 Sanyang 125 and Taipei driving daily. Now, some 30+ years later I'm on the x300 Versys, (just getting to 1000 miles).

  • @WhiteChocolateTricks
    @WhiteChocolateTricks Жыл бұрын

    I really want to know whether or not CF is spam paying influencers to market for them. They're not looked upon well in china, and honestly there''s better brands if you want CN bikes. For whatever reason different channels only keep looking at CF.

  • @andrewgee241

    @andrewgee241

    Жыл бұрын

    Most of the motorcycle manufacturers provide loaner bikes, out right free bikes, all expenses paid trips to all the youtube bike vloggers. Clearly CFMOTO is also handing out the freebees to get people to review their bikes. Yammie Noob comes to mind for recent reviews of these bikes.

  • @thetidysnorkeler4580
    @thetidysnorkeler4580 Жыл бұрын

    Youre a good rider !

  • @channelname7349
    @channelname7349 Жыл бұрын

    I dunno how true it is but when you mentioned the mounting on the engine being similar I have seen some European reviews that claim that this engine from CFmoto is based off a recent Kawi 650 motor.

  • @phantomnus
    @phantomnus Жыл бұрын

    Will you be testing the Cfmoto 450 SS when it comes out?

  • @theprodigalstranger5259
    @theprodigalstranger5259 Жыл бұрын

    Looks pretty good, but why do a knock off a bike like the Versys? Surely, the Versys is so reliable and affordable even a half way decent used one would be less of a worry than this Chinese copy. 5000" lol not a very useful measurement IMO, guess the manufacturer doesn't have a handle on yards/feet.

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    @pleasedontwatchthese9593

    Жыл бұрын

    considering 1 yard is 90% of a meter they should have just renamed it lol

  • @vladychiez
    @vladychiez Жыл бұрын

    you gotta check out the CFMoto 800MT. It's CFMoto's ADV bike, not sure what's it called in US though, or if even exist there. Nice looking bike.

  • @marcoaguiar3226
    @marcoaguiar3226 Жыл бұрын

    I am dying to know how will the benelli trk 702c and X rank on your daily rider board

  • @Halfbeard65
    @Halfbeard65 Жыл бұрын

    I had a cfmoto side by side, it was a decently smooth operator. I don’t think I’d trust any of their stuff on the road though. I’m gonna keep my eye on reviews and see, though. I’m interested

  • @ouroesa
    @ouroesa Жыл бұрын

    Ive got a 2020 650NK and your review is spot on. It's, fine, I guess. But it doesn't make me excited to go riding, fine once I'm on but meh.

  • @WandelLander
    @WandelLander Жыл бұрын

    This bike sounds exactly like it's the more street biased version of the Moto Morini X-Cape 650. Aside from the front wheel size the specs seem nearly identical

  • @llerradish
    @llerradish Жыл бұрын

    In order for me to take the handling comments very seriously the bike should compare them to should have the same tires. Tires can make all the difference in the world

  • @jonathanminton9246
    @jonathanminton9246 Жыл бұрын

    Ride and review a Janus motorcyle!! Made in Goshen Indiana.

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