The China Model behind Western Mainstream Narratives | Tianxiang (Derek) Tan | TEDxEarlhamCollege

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Many people outside of China have only a vague understanding of China’s political system. International controversies about Chinese society have only been on the rise. In this talk, Tianxiang explains the often unheard key features that make the Chinese society model unique. He will also delve into some reasons for the very different understandings of China. Tianxiang will provide additional information on how Western mainstream narratives play a major role in the misunderstanding. Tianxiang (Derek) Tan is a student (now alumnus) at Earlham College. He came to the US with a strong preference for the US political system, while hating that of his home country, China. However, as he encountered new perspectives, he found striking similarities between both and the misconceptions underlying their differences and has now developed a more holistic idea of the two cultures. He hopes to help both reach a mutually beneficial understanding of one another.
A global management student, Derek set his career path on business innovations through building start-ups, joining competitions, and serving on college IT, Marketing, and Finance groups. He has interned at Daimler and Alibaba Group. He was also elected co-chair for the Student Organization Council and served as a student representative to the college Board of Trustees. Now a student at Cornell Johnson School of Management, he hopes to leverage technology to build cultural and economic connectivity within the world. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @marylee4510
    @marylee45102 жыл бұрын

    I'm an overseas Chinese, grew up in a democratic country with heavy American influence. Just like everyone, I buy into the whole American narrative until the violent rioting in Hong Kong in 2019. It all changed for me, all the people I used to respect, all the media I used to believe in, the concept of American Democracy I admire, are actually against the core principle of a peaceful and a stable society.

  • @ELGtheMAN

    @ELGtheMAN

    2 жыл бұрын

    luckily the US had failed to push their failed democracy to China, LOL. If China has multi-party electoral democracy, it will be very divisive, almost like the US and the opposition party in China will even be funded by CIA like what they did in many countries when those ruling governments do not align themselves to US interests, hence there will be many unrest like riots and even revolution. And also, politicians in China will keep playing the nationalist sentiment like everywhere else, to keep themselves voted into office again, hence there will be real confrontations with other countries. And most importantly, China will be nowhere near as prosperous and advanced as today because politicians from both sides will debate non-stop and even smear each other on issues like whether to build bridges, roads, high speed rails and even to wear masks or not during Covid !! LOL

  • @jnusslein6301

    @jnusslein6301

    2 жыл бұрын

    Failed colour revolution

  • @hsingholee1058

    @hsingholee1058

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here! Reinforced with the most recent events of Xinjiang blood cotton, Meng's arrest, Afghanistan withdrawal, and many many more.

  • @FerMuBe
    @FerMuBe4 жыл бұрын

    I've been making videos from China, as a foreigner, to correct the Western narrative. I use my 20 years of experience in the country to present facts to a world audience. My most relevant ones are "China's Freedom", " China's Poverty ", " China's not a dictatorship ", "China's meritocracy", "China's Rich", "HK belongs to China", amongst others. I invite you to start watching " Who is China Teacher Brand - why LISTEN to him?"

  • @leedshuaren

    @leedshuaren

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol nice advert

  • @sertank735

    @sertank735

    2 жыл бұрын

    What about the g-e-n-o-c-i-d-e against the U-i-g-h-u-r-s? What about the N-o-r-t-h K-o-r-e-a-n s-e-x s-l-a-v-e-s? You make videos on them?

  • @80sGuy.

    @80sGuy.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sertank735 You can't make videos of something that does not exist. But the west seems to magically know everything inside China even though most (if not all) political figures have never step foot inside those said places. They can never turn China into an Afghanistan. By the way, I'm American.

  • @noellaw3477

    @noellaw3477

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sertank735 Did you learn anything from watching THIS TEDx Talk? Western MSM's negative narratives campaign towards China?

  • @francoisleung9330

    @francoisleung9330

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sertank735 It never occurred to you , It is part of the anti China propaganda?

  • @geminikuan
    @geminikuan4 жыл бұрын

    Did the camera operator purposely skipped many of the slides by focusing the camera purely on the speaker (most of the time) to lessen the effectiveness of the messages being presented? Just an observation.

  • @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree. I’d like to see some slides too

  • @daniely500

    @daniely500

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree compared to other TED talks. Part of the subtle bias against China

  • @GeorgeMartinus

    @GeorgeMartinus

    3 жыл бұрын

    They (the westrners) just can't handle the tr uth.

  • @Zerpentsa6598

    @Zerpentsa6598

    3 жыл бұрын

    Possible. They will use every trick to play down good points about China.

  • @jonsnow8853

    @jonsnow8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    I asked the same myself

  • @medialcanthus9681
    @medialcanthus96814 жыл бұрын

    I'm very happy for the Chinese people and I hope more of their young people will speak up for their country and take pride in what their government has done for them.

  • @tuodong8257

    @tuodong8257

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well.... I was banned for three months commenting Trump without say anything irrational *We also have clear evidence that KZread take down the views for anything good about China.

  • @prasitkoysiripong5150
    @prasitkoysiripong51504 жыл бұрын

    I​ am​ a​ Chinese​-Thai.l am​ proud to​ be​ a​ Chinese​ and​ Thai.l​ love​ my​ homeland and​ l​ never​ forget my​ motherland.l visit​ China​ many​ times.l see​ China​ progression. Cheer China.

  • @hermon1415

    @hermon1415

    4 жыл бұрын

    i salute you.

  • @tingtong5898

    @tingtong5898

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ting tong. Do you want communist in Thailand? I know what the Thai people think about China. 5555

  • @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    4 жыл бұрын

    David Paul You are naive if communist is the first word come to your mind when mentioned China. That’s not even close

  • @tingtong5898

    @tingtong5898

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@keyboardmanyoutube3189 I'm talking about the Communist Party of China. Now I think you are naive.

  • @girasegina9725

    @girasegina9725

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@keyboardmanyoutube3189 You don't have to wake him if he intends to stay brainwashed.

  • @michaelkoh2280
    @michaelkoh22802 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for telling the truth. The truth will set you free!

  • @dehua-2730
    @dehua-27304 жыл бұрын

    I did not hate China growing up in the West but kind of looked down a bit. Now after living over 10 years in China, I started to resent Western media and government for spreading outrageous lies about China. It took me many years to understand, imagine some average American who have never been to China, zero chance!

  • @trevorroberts2752

    @trevorroberts2752

    3 жыл бұрын

    You never grew up in the west lol

  • @larrya3681

    @larrya3681

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trevorroberts2752 He referred to you. 0 chance.

  • @Tristan-pg5ll
    @Tristan-pg5ll4 жыл бұрын

    25M subscribers and only 2K views? I see what you did there KZread.

  • @gjk8110

    @gjk8110

    4 жыл бұрын

    KZread are taken down views even BTS korean boy band! they are scare asian take over!

  • @familykidsrus5858
    @familykidsrus58584 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tianxiang! Keep spreading the positive message. Ignorance is not bliss; it imprisons those not willing to learn. You're 100% correct-- biggest problem with U.S-China understanding is the ideology bias and main-stream media. Thank you.

  • @orangutan324
    @orangutan3244 жыл бұрын

    It seems to me 99% of Chinese are happy and proud with their government. Sadly that is not the case here in USA. We are so unhappy with everything that we end up blaming and fighting everything and everybody.

  • @DongsMBM

    @DongsMBM

    3 жыл бұрын

    what pisses me off greatly is, the western narrative, specially the US does not only demonize other countries, but also brain washes its own people letting them believe they are the best in the world, and a lot of people will think "oh well, what can you do, its just life, other countries have it much worse than us" or something like " I know I'm not havint a great time, but we are the greatest in the world, we are better than everyone". and that supresses a lot of people looking for actual changes

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    If they weren’t you wouldn’t hear of it because they don’t have freedom of speech. That’s the difference between them and us. They have different values from the west. If you don’t care for freedom, democracy, or human rights, by all means praise China.

  • @ELGtheMAN

    @ELGtheMAN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DongsMBM You guys have to understand that the west has a serious and probably rigid prostelysing culture since the ancient days of Christianity. They still carry the same DNA of their ancestors of always wanting to convert others into their belief, which they think is so-called the only way and right way, but this time in the modern times is no longer trying so much to convert people into Christianity but into democracy. So it's no wonder that the west, especially the US is getting worried because China is showing the world what an alternative political system could achieve and even had outdone democratic countries in many aspects.

  • @kekefefe8331

    @kekefefe8331

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is it you are unhappy with? American average income is 7 times higher than Chinese, housing is 80% cheaper than China, automobiles price is 40% lower than China. US has 4 times more universities, 10 bigger millitary, .... now tell me what can be done to make you more happy? And you can try to criticize Chinese government and Xi Jingping, or mention that you are not happy with the way movie describe the Korea war, watch your social network account be deleted and you will be arrested and re-educated.

  • @ELGtheMAN

    @ELGtheMAN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kekefefe8331 some pro US or western dude felt threatened here. LOL... There are things the US still leading but the gaps are getting lesser and lesser. US today is no longer the dominant US of the past, not even near. And let me tell you what will make US happier, real gun reforms and ownership laws, safety from walking out at night and serious crimes, real healthcare reform which is affordable, no more lobbying of Congress by the super rich, inefficient and even incompetent government no matter who you voted for. And all the above mentioned do not exist in China or have largely been solved.

  • @Liaomiao
    @Liaomiao3 жыл бұрын

    This deserves more than 8000 views

  • @peterlau1694
    @peterlau16944 жыл бұрын

    Derek, thanks for your talk. I am so happy for you that logic has turned you from originally being against China, when you first went to the US, that land of the so-called free, to being proud of your own country and its history-breaking achievements, and not turning into a Gordon Chang. All the best to you.

  • @FerMuBe

    @FerMuBe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've been making videos from China, as a foreigner, to correct the Western narrative. I use my 20 years of experience in the country to present facts to a world audience. My most relevant ones are "China's Freedom", " China's Poverty ", " China's not a dictatorship ", "China's meritocracy", "China's Rich", "HK belongs to China", amongst others. I invite you to start watching " Who is China Teacher Brand - why LISTEN to him?"

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    4 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the support. I hope the world has less misunderstandings.

  • @raysun9188

    @raysun9188

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is there any chance that you are the CEO of oneplus?

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@raysun9188 I tried to hide that identity bro.

  • @johnbrown40639
    @johnbrown406394 жыл бұрын

    There was a ted talk by Eric Li, with many similar talking points.

  • @jorjiang1

    @jorjiang1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eric is also much more charismatic

  • @gingerbladebl
    @gingerbladebl2 жыл бұрын

    If the US is so fond of democratic model why don’t they criticize middle east countries like Saudi?

  • @brannyxx
    @brannyxx2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your bravery to come out and speak your mind.

  • @MrLangam
    @MrLangam4 жыл бұрын

    This guy deserves more spotlight

  • @cinnamondan4984

    @cinnamondan4984

    3 жыл бұрын

    And love 💕

  • @guoba4088
    @guoba40883 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the eye opening speech! Many people these days are so closed minded.

  • @80sGuy.
    @80sGuy.2 жыл бұрын

    There is an old saying that I learned and instilled inside my brain to this day and that is: 'a cheater NEVER wins'. I can see now who is excelling and winning, and how many are losing.

  • @CY-yz2dw
    @CY-yz2dw4 жыл бұрын

    Great points. Thank you for telling the truth. There is no perfect government. Good government should serve people and humanity. The Chinese government ,while not perfect, has done a lot for the Chinese people. Results driven.

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, like killing tens of millions in the twentieth century and imprisoning over a million Uighurs in concentration camps today... they’re sure doing a lot for their people! Ffs

  • @janvandeberg1953

    @janvandeberg1953

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamhan2064 There are literally no proof. The proof they presented are all debunked, just like the Iraq war. There are no WMD.

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@janvandeberg1953 Unless you’re living in China, you can google “Great Leap Forward” and “Xinjiang camps” and get a million articles about these topics. These aren’t disputable facts you numb nut.

  • @janvandeberg1953

    @janvandeberg1953

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamhan2064 Lmao, I live in Europe. Google don’t fact-check the articles, everyone can write anything. Derek is right about google and KZread, you will only find negative news about China. All those articles are already debunked, you have to do more research than google. Max Blumenthal debunked this already on grayzone.

  • @jimmyxu4630

    @jimmyxu4630

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamhan2064 have you been to China? No one will stop you from finding the truth in Xinjiang. Just shut up before you have that evidence.

  • @qf1150
    @qf11503 жыл бұрын

    Great talk Derek! Completely agree with you.

  • @user-bt3iz7vi7q
    @user-bt3iz7vi7q4 жыл бұрын

    Live is too short to have so much hate. So enjoy good health and happiness with family and friends. Love China

  • @williamc9578
    @williamc95782 жыл бұрын

    Derek is fortunate. He left China at 18. He already had some appreciation of the realities of China up to the late 2010s. Therein, he has a reference to compare with the Western narratives he is hearing. At the very least, there's a chance for him to recognize this dissonance. Someone who left China at 8 or 9, will have a much less chance of objectively assessing, or critically thinking about whether the Western anti-China narrative stands up to scrutiny.

  • @joelin5887

    @joelin5887

    2 жыл бұрын

    I came to the UK at nine. Don’t make generalisations as such. I am not anti-China. I am critical of China and the west but informed as well.

  • @williamc9578

    @williamc9578

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joelin5887 good for you. It is not generalizations or labelling. If you read my comment, it speaks of the pervasiveness of the western narrative, and it is unabashedly anti-China. In the face of this, think about the probability that anyone growing-up for 15-20years surrounded, bombarded by it, would form opinions and a world-view that is objective and rational.

  • @dert4291
    @dert42914 жыл бұрын

    Some dude really comes here every day to leave negative comments lol.

  • @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol. They got paid to do so.

  • @helioseclipse337
    @helioseclipse3373 жыл бұрын

    道阻且长,与君共勉。 It will be a long and tough journey for us and our country, Living and Working together for the coming new era, I feel lucky and honored.

  • @katevarel6333
    @katevarel63333 жыл бұрын

    How small hearted and mean for one, who keeps hoping bad things to happen for others.

  • @caomilo1031
    @caomilo10314 жыл бұрын

    Many of the points seems from Prof Zhang Weiwei and Eric Li. A meaningful effort to deliver these ideas to western audience.

  • @bombaymascot
    @bombaymascot3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on a job well done, Derek ! In time you will overcome your inexperience and hopefully become confident and more knowledgable; another Eric Lee perhaps.China needs people like you to tell her side of the story. Don't give up ! I wish you the best !

  • @johanhirte9661

    @johanhirte9661

    2 жыл бұрын

    But that is exactly the funny part here. He talks about demonetized videos but Dienst look into that issue in general. As if only Chinese videos get demonetized. Many topics are. But still these videos are available. Just companies don’t want to advertise online on a video with such topics. So KZread has a set of rules to demonetize videos. Regardless of they are pro China or not. Mostly political discussions are demonetized. Also pro right, pro left, conspiracy theories, also some people spreading the corona virus was made in a lab or bill gates wants to eat our brains. He just looks at the China KZread perspective and tells his feelings. N=1. Also his core message is …… well he talks about censorship in the west of Chinese ideas by holding a speech in front of a western audience and uploading it to a western website. How this paradox is something he could not notice ?

  • @ziye1182
    @ziye11824 жыл бұрын

    Actually I want to watch the PPT,but I can't see the data part of the whole speech. This speech is quite like the one of Eric Li. But still good job

  • @alexgoslar4057
    @alexgoslar40572 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, Derek.

  • @rikadomez8201
    @rikadomez82014 жыл бұрын

    let me guess, a chinese academician talking positive about his country deserves a bad cameraman or amateurish video recording. Kudos to organizer!

  • @p2jd2b46

    @p2jd2b46

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL, I too was wondering the same.

  • @GeorgeMartinus

    @GeorgeMartinus

    3 жыл бұрын

    They (the wsterners) just c an't handle the tr uth. So their narrative was to obscure or minimize the f act data shown on the slides.

  • @Mia-rn2gk
    @Mia-rn2gk3 жыл бұрын

    A very good presentation that I wish more people could pay attention to

  • @cjhk3576
    @cjhk35764 жыл бұрын

    Really good speech.

  • @jietaliu7350
    @jietaliu73503 жыл бұрын

    👍❤️👍❤️😻thank you for your wonderful information.

  • @daniely500
    @daniely5004 жыл бұрын

    Good job.

  • @abcxyz6606
    @abcxyz66064 жыл бұрын

    so true.

  • @kellyy5834
    @kellyy58344 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @zhenchang9579
    @zhenchang9579 Жыл бұрын

    Dude, you absolutely made a great job! Your slides are well prepared, and your speech is thoughtful structured. Well done. One suggestion I barely be able to deliver is, do put more attention on your rhythm and straighten your chest up when you are speaking. That would make your message more appealing and farther radiated.

  • @user-kd9ts4zg6r
    @user-kd9ts4zg6r4 жыл бұрын

    it seems nobody wanted to watch this video... less than 5k views in nearly a month. i think the name of this video simply stopped more than 90% of confident viewers.

  • @janvandeberg1953
    @janvandeberg19533 жыл бұрын

    This is soo true.

  • @chenyiji3952
    @chenyiji39524 жыл бұрын

    3:00 same here!

  • @iknowu6068
    @iknowu60684 жыл бұрын

    he is not alone...

  • @prakashthapa5205
    @prakashthapa52054 жыл бұрын

    I lov china what they do and now power of westren contury i m proud to Asian countery power

  • @chinhau8702
    @chinhau87024 жыл бұрын

    Americans usually want china to be like Americans China is being americanized a bit... If someday china is westernized The whole world will miss CHINA: Philosophy Poetry Painting Chinese calligraphy No parallel in the West Giants like: Napoleon De Gaulle Malraux Kissinger...etc... Sense that...

  • @themiddlekingdom9121

    @themiddlekingdom9121

    4 жыл бұрын

    China won't become Western type of government nor its cultures.

  • @rosebud4387

    @rosebud4387

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@themiddlekingdom9121 Lets hope not.

  • @spadeysay6846

    @spadeysay6846

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Americans usually want china to be like Americans" That is a fallacy that the US has been very successful selling to too many people around the world. The US does not even appreciate ethnic Chinese Americans who are fully "americanised" and whose ancestors were already US citizens way back from the 1700s. The Chinese has been the "Yellow Peril" since the white men first met and interacted with the chinese people and that mentality has not changed an iota. The chinese people need to stop buying the snake oil mixed with crocodile tears from the US or the west about that belief or America's wish. The truth is the US wants China to always be poorer and less advanced/ stronger than the US. Its political system and ideology is irrelevant. Under the present geopolitical scenario, that pretension of wishing that "China being just like us" has been discarded and openly named China as an enemy of the US.

  • @WM-mc9ez
    @WM-mc9ez3 жыл бұрын

    26 million subscribers and 8.6K viewers. Thanks youtube.

  • @johanhirte9661

    @johanhirte9661

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe most of the accounts are bots 🤖?

  • @nice-hm7lg
    @nice-hm7lg11 ай бұрын

    Sometimes you have to be very brave to tell the truth and we commend you for doing such a good job at it! It's a shame the editors of TED flagged your talk... American exceptionalism and sinophobia

  • @nmew6926
    @nmew69263 жыл бұрын

    If China was like India, Mao son, Deng Xiaoping daughter, Zhou enlai nephew, Jiang Zemin brother would probably be ministers or members of politburo. The Beijing airport would be named Deng Xiaoping airport

  • @shanhuichen2252
    @shanhuichen22523 жыл бұрын

    China needs someone like him to speak up

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    2 жыл бұрын

    哈哈哈 都好啦

  • @Surstromming22
    @Surstromming224 жыл бұрын

    By the way a better version of this TED talk is by Eric Li.. Also on Ted talk. Check it out.

  • @4-SeasonNature
    @4-SeasonNature4 жыл бұрын

    I almost switched channel after he said he had the "misfortune" to be born in China. What a surprise!

  • @xiebaiqin

    @xiebaiqin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andrew yang said similar things. And there are chinese congress members voted to limit every 100 university or colleague students, only 5 chinese is allowed. It's very disguesting.

  • @FerMuBe

    @FerMuBe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've been making videos from China, as a foreigner, to correct the Western narrative. I use my 20 years of experience in the country to present facts to a world audience. My most relevant ones are "China's Freedom", " China's Poverty ", " China's not a dictatorship ", "China's meritocracy", "China's Rich", "HK belongs to China", amongst others. I invite you to start watching " Who is China Teacher Brand - why LISTEN to him?"

  • @ishrendon6435
    @ishrendon64352 жыл бұрын

    Take pride in your country its great country and has a great history i visted there for a while and as a Guatemalan i saw many things that i admire and wish to have in my society in terms of economic growth and politics as you notice central america where im from isnt doing so well and never has been doing well in terms of poverty and crime i certainly feel more influenced by china after a couple of visits there it changed my mentality and view about what is possible china used to be a very poor country not so long ago with endless famimes. China is truly one of the greatest civilizations known to man its ability to adapt .

  • @BobBogaert
    @BobBogaert Жыл бұрын

    In China, the top job is bestowed upon you by the organization department. In the US the president is chosen by the orangization department. Same thing.

  • @YoungTang
    @YoungTang3 жыл бұрын

    I moved to the US when I was 10 due to the Tiananmen Massacre in 89, but as older, I've gotten, the more and more I share this sentiment and experiences.

  • @bellybutton6138

    @bellybutton6138

    2 жыл бұрын

    The westerners used the word 'massacre' liberally especially for China eg. in Tiananmen and Xinjiang. You want to know what is truly massacre? Talk about the Japanese invasion of China and the Nanjing Massacre, talk about the rounding of ethnic Chinese men in Malaysia to be beheaded, talk about bombing civilians in the name of war.

  • @YoungTang

    @YoungTang

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bellybutton6138 Beijing it is considered a massacre when armed military open fires on unarmed civilians. This I know for a fact as I stated I am actually from Beijing and living there during that time. But I believe every country make mistakes, its more important to learn and improve from those mistakes.

  • @angeliquewu8318

    @angeliquewu8318

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@YoungTang I know a student protester who was involved. She was going to Beida at the time. Perhaps you remembered wrong or didn’t fully understand due to your young age back then? Because she says that there was no such thing that happened. It was more of a mutual fight, most of it didn’t even happen in the square, and very few people died.

  • @YoungTang

    @YoungTang

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Angelique Wu no such thing? There are literally videos, and my neighbors son didn't come back. And my parents were shot at as they were going toward the square on that night. When Chinese can actually face the facts instead of trying to hide everything, that's when China will truly rise above everyone else.

  • @angeliquewu8318

    @angeliquewu8318

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@YoungTang ...Did you even read what I said? I'm not getting this from any media, I'm getting this information from people who were involved. Do you know what Beida is? It's the best university in China, tied with Qinghua. At Tiananmen square, Beida students made up the bulk of the forces, so I'd say that the amount of deaths that happened there are pretty representative of what happened. From what she's told me, the chaos started as the students were leaving the square, as previously negotiated with the officials. It seemed that someone in the back had shouted that there was someone shooting or something? And from her recollection, it seemed that there had been one shot, but it seemed to be aimed at the sky, to try and scare off whoever was in the back. After that, it was chaos, as the stories got distorted or exaggerated by the chaoticness of the night. It was only after the incident, when the students all came back to school that they reconvened and talked about the incident. All of the students involved had to write many reports and paperwork to the government, so they had to recall what happened the night of. It seems that overall, no one died in her department (Computer Science), one person died in the chemistry department, and a couple were dead in the political science department. There were also a couple more from other departments, but overall, the vast majority of people were alive. In no way does any of her account or anything she's heard from her fellow students support that the military, ordered by the government, fired upon the mass of student protesters to try and massacre them. And in fact, accounts by various people who I know are accredited have also supported this view. Many of these people nowadays are simply professionals in their field (after all, they did go to the best university in China, and were the best and brightest of their generation). A couple of them even immigrated overseas, and interestingly enough, some of the more political ones actually moved back, and now are in various positions of power in the government. Some of them are still in contact. I think it should be considered that basically every single person of a certain age range who went to university at certain places was most likely a student protester. The fact is that the vast majority of students who were in the square protesting on that night are alive and doing very well for themselves, which they wouldn't be able to do if they had all been shot dead.

  • @chitmengkhong4057
    @chitmengkhong40572 жыл бұрын

    Would have been nice if you had credited the appropriate quote to Prof. Kishore Mahbubani

  • @starboiii1837
    @starboiii18374 жыл бұрын

    No ❌,great

  • @cocoricardo7040
    @cocoricardo70402 жыл бұрын

    This show the young chinese no more believe the west.

  • @leftalone3820
    @leftalone38203 жыл бұрын

    Freedom of speech means freedom of praising capitalist oligarchy.

  • @cinnamondan4984
    @cinnamondan49843 жыл бұрын

    This was good but it would be better with a more balanced approach as opposed to an apologetic approach

  • @Jason-gn8by
    @Jason-gn8by4 жыл бұрын

    I support you 😉

  • @lukeshula5270

    @lukeshula5270

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jason But the facts don't.

  • @m3c4nyku43

    @m3c4nyku43

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lukeshula5270 Why are you so obsessed with this video? Do you come here everyday to comment bs here?

  • @m3c4nyku43

    @m3c4nyku43

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lukeshula5270 Each time you visit it, it will add a view, so you are supporting TED.

  • @lukeshula5270

    @lukeshula5270

    4 жыл бұрын

    M3C4NYKU Very aware. Facts matter. This is TEDx, not TED.

  • @MrTheRuffles
    @MrTheRuffles3 жыл бұрын

    30.9M subscribers but only 14,000 views, I wonder Y.

  • @tonykhong
    @tonykhong2 жыл бұрын

    Malaysia 2nd? That can’t be right.

  • @winkstorm
    @winkstorm2 жыл бұрын

    Gordon Chang is a total joke.

  • @danielong9170
    @danielong91704 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible for TED to post a video against china? coz i don't think so, it will be taken down or sue or other stuff. (this does not apply to TED only)

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    4 жыл бұрын

    they posted many anti-china topics already

  • @danielong9170

    @danielong9170

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dert4291 Hmm I will look more into that, but it must not have any affiliations with china or else... you know. especially the speaker

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@danielong9170 lol

  • @nanoshka7484

    @nanoshka7484

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielong9170 i wish chiness media are as influential as you think... their propaganda sucks big time!

  • @danielong9170

    @danielong9170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nanoshka7484 they may not be as influential, but to the already influenced. It will be like stoking the flames

  • @ngkeam9491
    @ngkeam94912 жыл бұрын

    15.30 timeline, never heard of this PM as Natasha, a mistake you need to rectify! Tk.

  • @franciscoroxas3679
    @franciscoroxas36793 жыл бұрын

    Please do not forget that China was decided by the Western colonial powers into their respective economic zones

  • @paecpc
    @paecpc4 жыл бұрын

    Why can’t the world accept differences, isn’t it more interesting? I love China, America, Japan, Taiwan, Holland, England ......and many beautiful countries! I love traveling to different parts of the world to meet different people! Can’t wait for Covid-19 to be over soon.

  • @hlwonka8783

    @hlwonka8783

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed we shld learn to live with others & not judge base on our judgement & way of life

  • @spadeysay6846

    @spadeysay6846

    3 жыл бұрын

    I too have been puzzled by the same thought. The west claims to celebrate diversity and celebrate freedom of choice. So the chinese people have chosen a different type of governance system, but the US and many western countries said NO......China must have western style "democracy". WTF

  • @sougayilangfishingtackles9312
    @sougayilangfishingtackles93122 жыл бұрын

    you are a fighter, you fight for the truth! When I was a kid even ice cream is very luxurious, and now we can enjoy the food of Mcdonald's, KFC whenever we want!

  • @orangutan324
    @orangutan3244 жыл бұрын

    I used to blame everything bad on communism, but in actual fact Communism better China, Communism introduced the correct concept of basic human right to China that all human are created equal which was absent in Chinese culture.

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, what are you on? You do know that tens of million died under Chinese communist rule and that they are still one of the greatest violators of human rights in the world? I suggest you do a little more research on Chinese history, for your sake.

  • @orangutan324

    @orangutan324

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamhan2064 After all said and done, do you really understand what I meant by: Communism better China, Communism introduced the correct concept of basic human right to China that all human are created equal which was absent in Chinese culture?

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orangutan324 So you claim, but where is your evidence? Where is human rights in China today, for the Uighurs in Xinjiang? Where is human rights for the dissenters being detained? Where is it for those being persecuted for their religious beliefs. Sure they’re doing better economically, although I’d be hesitant to attribute that to communism lol. And please, the idea that “all men are created equal” is literally inscribed in the American Declaration of Independence; I doubt you’d find something similar in any Chinese founding document. So show me, not how communism theoretically promotes human rights, but practically and historically.

  • @orangutan324

    @orangutan324

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamhan2064 One more time, do you really understand what I meant by: Communism introduced the correct concept of basic human right to China that all human are created equal which was absent in Chinese culture? Another word China through out her 5000 yrs of civilization never has the human right that you are familiar with or talking about.

  • @chaofoodies

    @chaofoodies

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamhan2064 give you few examples that how human are not equal in China before communism. Unlike western usually they are racism, China didn’t really care about race. What China used to have was the inequality between emperor, minister and people, that’s now gone, the concept of communism believe officers are providing service to people, not rule people. Another example is husband and wife, China used to think wife is a property of husband, wife will take husbands last name, now nobody does that.

  • @ruipengli3969
    @ruipengli39693 жыл бұрын

    And the views has certainty been suppressed. Shame

  • @fook7108
    @fook71082 жыл бұрын

    China CPC embrace humanity for mankind via BRI , UN peacekeeping, vaccines for developing countries etc

  • @PutinGayTwin
    @PutinGayTwin3 жыл бұрын

    Ok, but not great. I was looking for more in depth of the China Model. China was always the greatest, the most populated in the world. There was a very short period that China felt off the world map, but they have gained back their reputations. Please read "the Needham puzzle".

  • @rolfodd8186
    @rolfodd81864 жыл бұрын

    70% excellent, 20% good!

  • @rickyeng56
    @rickyeng563 жыл бұрын

    Hey Derek, many of your points seems copying Eric Li's Ted speeches.

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    2 жыл бұрын

    you are right, I could have said it better. I was trying to bring the most convincing points to the audience of my college. Therefore sacrificed originality a bit. Slightly regretting tat,

  • @ll00000000ll
    @ll00000000ll4 жыл бұрын

    there is not such a thing called ideology bias. there is only racism.

  • @ruipengli3969
    @ruipengli39693 жыл бұрын

    Why don't we get to see his slides!!! Shame on you Ted production group

  • @user-kt4jn4yg7e
    @user-kt4jn4yg7e3 жыл бұрын

    你怎么把章副局给暴露了

  • @graveaccent3539
    @graveaccent35394 жыл бұрын

    Why do so many people who look like Eric Xun Li give a speech similar to Eric Xun Li at TED?

  • @rtc5573

    @rtc5573

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let me hear you speak Mandarin.

  • @peterlau1694

    @peterlau1694

    4 жыл бұрын

    Didn't you know they all look the same ... all 1.3 billion of them!

  • @ritzwanabdullah7608
    @ritzwanabdullah76082 жыл бұрын

    Start with anything to do western military...

  • @amrzhang1471
    @amrzhang14713 жыл бұрын

    中国是一个披着国家外衣的文明社会,中国有自己的发展脉络,公有和私有相结合的经济模式起源于2700多年前春秋时期的齐国的经济改革,在2000年前的汉朝盐铁论后逐渐成熟;中国政治结构是郡县和行省制度,起源于战国时期的秦国,成熟于元代;治理国家人才以文官集团为主,这套体系成熟于1000多年前的宋朝,这些都是中国对全世界经济和政治发展所做出的贡献。 中国和西方最大的不同在于,所处的发展阶段是不同的,西方社会拜托贵族统治并没有太久远,而中国早在2000多年前的秦朝就已经摆脱了贵族统治的束缚。目前中国已经进入民权的社会阶段,而西方国家还有很漫长的道路要走,加油哦!

  • @user-bb4in5ez9e
    @user-bb4in5ez9e2 жыл бұрын

    china is not perfect, but it is getting better every year both economically and politically up to now.

  • @HongFeiBai
    @HongFeiBai2 жыл бұрын

    I went from agreeing to the comments of a Canadian World of Warcraft guild member who said "I don't like the Chinese government but I don't hate Chinese people" to seeing that he bought into the narrative all along and didn't even know why, and I didn't even think to question him. Not going to make the same mistake again.

  • @ninngenndame7189
    @ninngenndame71893 жыл бұрын

    omg 1.7m views after 11 month,only1.7m??? That proves what he sad!

  • @johanhirte9661

    @johanhirte9661

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes ….. especially because we all searched for this video and the YT algorithm didn’t suggest it to us. I woke up this morning and felt like typing “the China model behind ……. Western bla bla bla” And came on this video which KZread never wanted me to see. 😂😂😂 And then the censorship …… he speaking on a stage in front of a western audience and uploading it to a western website…. Poetics every single point of that.

  • @tarapappa1594
    @tarapappa15942 жыл бұрын

    They hate Chinese system because they can't do regime change in that......😅😅😅😅

  • @jaredpoblador8808
    @jaredpoblador88083 жыл бұрын

    "yeah but what about my Scarborough Shoal?" - Ms. Philippines

  • @valkriainewaynewang8259
    @valkriainewaynewang82593 жыл бұрын

    Good job you have my respect, but this will never work. Maybe next time start with the western image of China and debunk it with 反讽.

  • @williamhan2064
    @williamhan20643 жыл бұрын

    He’s right. If you don’t value freedom and democracy, China is a great country. And unfortunately, it seems that many people in the comment section don’t. For shame.

  • @spadeysay6846

    @spadeysay6846

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you have been over-sold on freedom and democracy from where you come from.

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spadeysay6846 Oversold maybe. But the fact remains that these are good and fundamental values of a decent society.

  • @chaofoodies

    @chaofoodies

    3 жыл бұрын

    What’s your opinion of Representative democracy, basically everyone joins and compete in suburb level, then the best in suburb level joins on issue of city level. Everyone involved in a higher level issue needs to prove their ability in lower level issues. And what you think that a person can enjoy the freedom to speak on social issues, can wear the cloth they like, can walk on the street at anytime, can travel anywhere they like. But of course, any of the above action cannot harm others, otherwise it is an abuse and maybe illegal. Is this person has freedom? What I just described is the current situation in China.

  • @williamhan2064

    @williamhan2064

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chaofoodies The first thing you describe seems more like a system of competence than a representative democracy. Secondly, speech is still highly regulated in China, especially that which disagrees with the views of the state. At which point, what is freedom of speech. I do appreciate any efforts of China to move toward more representation and freedom.

  • @qm3384
    @qm33843 жыл бұрын

    Feels like he is simple repeat of Eric Li on Ted talk, nothing really new at all!

  • @gordonxjtu
    @gordonxjtu4 жыл бұрын

    so awkward

  • @Wolfgang799
    @Wolfgang7994 жыл бұрын

    小伙伴儿还得多练习啊,太生涩了

  • @wanqinjiang6772

    @wanqinjiang6772

    3 жыл бұрын

    紧张

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    3 жыл бұрын

    年轻慢慢来呗

  • @levelazn

    @levelazn

    3 жыл бұрын

    你来啊

  • @erican9194
    @erican91942 жыл бұрын

    What a terrible editing, I want to see the slides!

  • @emmanueldanielauthor
    @emmanueldanielauthor2 жыл бұрын

    All the points of this young man are totally borrowed from Eric Li and Kishore Mabubani. This should not have been a TEDTalk.

  • @AMTFan1
    @AMTFan13 жыл бұрын

    11:00 This is misleading! In western countries, if it's an isolated place or in a mountain, if people live there, electricity will still go there, whether it is a publicly owned or a privately owned electricity company! I know this because I work in an engineering related field in Canada! And in the case of a privately owned company, even if it's an isolated place or in a mountain, the government will step in to pay and make sure people who live there have electricity and pay the company to build the infrastructures because it's an essential service, even if the company might be motivated by profits! You can't make a simplistic comparison like this without doing more research and say: China's government publicly owned companies are better than private companies. No, in those two cases, the government intervenes.

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can only compare China to developing countries with similar scale and income. almost all developed countries have great coverage.

  • @chaofoodies

    @chaofoodies

    3 жыл бұрын

    Regional electricity cost are higher than metro area (apparently higher cost to get electricity there) in Australia. However in China regional area has lower electricity fee so they can afford. Another example of mobile Internet and phone access as another essential service, it has better coverage in China.

  • @moelai8489
    @moelai84894 жыл бұрын

    Avant de croire aux journalistes , faut se rendre en Chine pour constater l'énorme amélioration de la vie, la sûreté, beaucoup moins de pauvreté ,ect... Parfois on a besoin d'un régime sévère pour reconstruire un pays, la Chine était très très très pauvre ,en 50 années le gouvernement de ce pays peut être fier. Chez nous,on a la pauvreté qui arrive à grands pas, trop d'inégalités !

  • @alexlim6300

    @alexlim6300

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ici au Canada, on a plus en plus de gens qui vivent sous le seuil de la pauvreté. Il y a énormément de crimes et autres problèmes sociaux.

  • @MiniKodjo

    @MiniKodjo

    Жыл бұрын

    Au détriment de combien de millions de personnes ? Une minorité s'enrichit mais la majorité reste pauvre et soumise

  • @rinturajesh2022
    @rinturajesh20224 жыл бұрын

    First comment

  • @ericksonarquero9789
    @ericksonarquero97894 жыл бұрын

    Third comment

  • @thomasyang2644
    @thomasyang26443 жыл бұрын

    if China is so good and western media are so bad, why you SOB can speak here while no western voice can be heard in China?

  • @spadeysay6846

    @spadeysay6846

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried speaking in China?

  • @chaofoodies

    @chaofoodies

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever use Chinese social media?

  • @holycow343

    @holycow343

    2 жыл бұрын

    because majority westerners don't know how to speak chinese?

  • @wiki3665
    @wiki36654 жыл бұрын

    这老哥英语怎么这么怪,说话一个一个字往外面蹦的。。。

  • @lemontree9787

    @lemontree9787

    4 жыл бұрын

    他紧张的

  • @christianyang7595

    @christianyang7595

    4 жыл бұрын

    这哥们的英语比99%的中国人都好 好吧

  • @wiki3665

    @wiki3665

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Yang 和大城市的同龄人相比,不怎么样,谈不上多好。

  • @dert4291

    @dert4291

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wiki3665 英语本身就是个工具,说的好坏本来就不该当成咱们中国人的一种评判标准

  • @iknowu6068

    @iknowu6068

    4 жыл бұрын

    18岁才到国外生活,不错了.上台演讲跟平时说话不一样的.

  • @jonaschan9808
    @jonaschan98083 жыл бұрын

    After living in the states for so long, you would expect his English to be better.

  • @levelazn

    @levelazn

    3 жыл бұрын

    He came to the states at 19. Can you goto China at 19 and do what he does ?

  • @anthonykulit
    @anthonykulit4 жыл бұрын

    After watching his presentation, I'm left unconvinced. I get the feeling that he doesn't understand the dynamics behind the fear of the West on China. Plus it's untrue that the West hates China, if it does then they wouldn't run after it's market. Other than that I find his presentation lacking originality. His deep realization lacks indepth analysis of what the West fears about China. However, the West should be blamed for not being clear on whom it really has a struggle with. Is it China as a country or the ruling regime. While often obscure in Western narratives, it's the latter what they are really criticizing. It's quite unfortunate that the latter can't handle criticism, because they fear their foundation for legitimacy will be questioned. Criticism isn't hate. But since things are more complex than it seems, in terms of politics, Chinese authorities are struggling for power. It wants to topple the Western ideals for something it perceives to be better. But question is, is it really better?

  • @spadeysay6846

    @spadeysay6846

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really? In summary, the fear of the West on China is that China will be economically and militarily stronger than the west, particularly stronger than the US regime. All the claims about political ideology differences, system of government differences and the other differences are all false flags and disinformation. The west and the US had no problem with a China that was very much more communist than it is today when they decided to make "friends" on mutual interest basis. They didn't set the condition that China must become a "democracy" 30 or 40 years down the road. So why the type of rhetoric nowadays? It's all about the strengths of the current and future Chinese economy, technological advancements and consequently the rising strength of the chinese military. And that the US regime see as an unacceptable threat to its current dominance and hegemony. How a typical school yard bully sees the arrival of a new boy with even more impressive abs.

  • @anthonykulit

    @anthonykulit

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually the theory is increase the middle class through wealth creation via open market system or liberal markets, sooner or later the middle class will clamor for Democracy. In all honesty, it failed because the regime did embrace market principles and in doing so it became the ultimate beneficiary. The West has no problem China is getting prosperous and wealthy, did not Clinton urged the WTO to accept China as a member? What the West failed to anticipate is that China's ruling regime used the world economy and the democratic system of the West against the West. You may flag ideological differences, political system differences as false flags, irrelevant, or just disinformation. But it remains a fact that it is what make China unpalatable not only to the West but to a number of Asian countries. China is real becoming the bully it wants to topple. China going out for revenge due to century long humiliation is the real unhealthy narrative and propaganda that's spoiling the image of China. If China can rise peacefully with democratic principles, the world would have embraced China more willingly. The West in fact loves competition, but China is way beyond just in for competition; China dreams of subjugating the world with its worldview. I find it Ironic because even communism is a Western idea. So you see, China really lacks originality. Even at its core, it but a product of the world it wishes to subjugate.

  • @anthonygeorge9932
    @anthonygeorge99324 жыл бұрын

    YAWN!

  • @howard49

    @howard49

    4 жыл бұрын

    You must be biased or American.

  • @caprice8910

    @caprice8910

    4 жыл бұрын

    The truth is difficult to stomach. Yawn.

  • @tingtong5898

    @tingtong5898

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@caprice8910 Truth is that the Communist Party covered up the coronavirus & now there is a global pandemic.

  • @ghensao4027
    @ghensao40273 жыл бұрын

    Very good material, bad presentation, not well rehearsed at all....

  • @noellaw3477

    @noellaw3477

    2 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to seeing yours...

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