At 3:30 of the video, I displayed the website address of Stan's Central Jersey Electric Automobile Association as www.njeea.com. That's not correct, it's actually www.njeaa.com.

@RCdiy

2 жыл бұрын

About 3% for 80 mph with 10mph wind. With normal stuff no big deal but with your drive for accuracy 🤷‍♂️

@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM

2 жыл бұрын

Tom made a mistake?!?! No way, okay we’ll give you a pass this time 😀😀😀

@425JayB

2 жыл бұрын

what's the name of the OBD reader that Stan's showing with the degrees of the battery and actual percentage?

@mondotv4216

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to factor in the weight of an additional Tom in the vehicle!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

2 жыл бұрын

@@mondotv4216 Didn't forget. At a constant speed, it's negligible. If this was a range test where we did a lot of stop and go then it would have played a more significant role and worth noting. 🙂

Here's the abridgement of the video: Bolt goes 166miles on old battery, there's 26mins of BS, then Bolt goes 188miles and 2% after battery was replaced under recall.

@steventrott8714

6 ай бұрын

With winter tires

@smitastic7030

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for trimming down all the unecessary info in this video!

@nitrobenz1694

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the abridgment!

@RWM195

4 ай бұрын

Brilliant! Could you PLEASE make it your KZread mission in life to watch and then explain all of these half-hour plus long videos out there in twenty-five words or less? Thank-you! 👍🏻

@georgecostanza2695

4 ай бұрын

@@RWM195 😂👍

I had 120k miles in my old battery, and last week it was replaced with a fresh new battery!!! I had no issues with my old battery whatsoever, but I am glad I got a new battery

Many thanks! I also have a 2017 Bolt and just got the battery upgrade. We live in the central valley of California and have never used a destination charger. From here in Modesto I can drive to the coast and back or to Yosemite and back but was close to zero when I got home. The new battery gives some relief. My wife suffered acute range anxiety. What surprises me is the warmer weather here generally gives my car 4.0 miles per kilowatt hour! Temperature makes a BIG difference. My old hot rod friends have sneered at my Bolt for years but now that gas in California is over $5.50 a gallon I get some respect. Too bad the Bolt is being phased out. I love mine.

I bought my 2019 just a few months ago with the battery upgrade. I love this car. It's a grey premier, and had 18K on it. it was 27K out the door. That includes a dealer bumper to bumper warranty for 150,000 mile unlimited years (We put 100,000 on a new c300 in 15 years so this should be good for around 20)! Thats a steal!!! the only thing I would change are the seats. they are ok, but in fairness, my other car is a 2020 Lexus 300H, so I'm a little spoiled in the seat department... My car is at 4.1KWH. Edit wife normally drives the lexus to work and back and she now uses the bolt on the weekends, so we only have to fill up the Lexus once every 6 weeks. so that was and added bonus. I was filling my c300 2.5 times a month for work, so that saving plus the mileage I get from work is more than the car payment... Plus, I can charge for free at work. This is a free car.

not to mention you had 2 people in the car for the 2nd test. I got my battery swapped in January, cant wait to finally take my 2017 on an adventure.

@GregHassler

2 жыл бұрын

2 people make literally zero difference

@kenmcclow8963

2 жыл бұрын

@@GregHassler I think it does, but it may not be a large difference. I saw the second test had a 3.1 consumption and the first test was 3.0. The variables were the new battery and the second person in the car. I don't know the cargo capacity for the Bolt to know what percentage is being used, but I bet it took a couple miles off the range

@richardllamas7666

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah totally,. I am one small guy that never gets less than 3.7KW/H. I have a friend (Big guy) that rides with me on occasion. Really drags down my efficiency.

@chameleonpogono

2 жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting on my new battery for my 2017. Been waiting for 6 months. Not a huge fan of my Chevy dealership. They keep telling me they are doing 2019's first and that I am in line.

Nice to see you posting Tom! Great post once again.

I'm happy to be getting a new battery pack for my 21 Bolt, even though it already has the 66 kWh pack. New battery with warranty. Thanks GM and LG. I think the Bolt is a great bang for the buck. Too bad the current car market is crazy.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

2 жыл бұрын

It is a great value.

@joebidendidthat5121

2 жыл бұрын

Love my 2021, no issues at all. Hoping to put of replacing battery as long as possible in order to get a fresh battery with a higher mileage car

Impressive. And that’s with two adult men in the car for the 2nd test. I assume one person per car in the previous test, as each man in different cars last week. I would guess the extra weight would have some impact, reducing range by some amount. Congrats to the Bolt owners. They’ve certainly earned the new batteries. I wish them many, many miles of worry-free EV driving!

@lewiscross7603

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a significant difference having the second person in the car. He should have let his friend record for him.

@GregHassler

2 жыл бұрын

Weight affects highway range a negligible, immeasurable amount.

@ezpoppy55

2 жыл бұрын

@@GregHassler interesting, if accurate. Sandy Munro and other engineers extol the importance of weight constantly.

@RoninMasterProperties

2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone commented on the weight of the new battery pack? If the pack is bigger shouldn’t it weigh more as well? Would this affect range ? How about wind drag which way was the wind blowing? How about other environmental factors? Still thanks guys for taking time to create it’s much appreciated!

@basedgodstrugglin

2 жыл бұрын

@@lewiscross7603 it’s significant if there is any stopping and starting or if their course involves any hills, if the turnpike is flat (I don’t know, I’ve never been) it makes no difference if they can hold that 70 mph. But it sounds like they get off the highway to turn around so they for sure affected the range

There seemed to be very little degradation on the old battery in 5 years and all those miles. That’s encouraging.

@WorldFamousDJFish

2 жыл бұрын

According to the Luddites, the batteries need to be replaced every 2-3 years lol

@rustyshakleford3161

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but people on Facebook seem to think they run on energizers and cost 20K every 30k miles to replace

@Soulxlight

Жыл бұрын

@@rustyshakleford3161 Lot of people don’t understand how reliable and big these batteries are. People are always like “What about when the battery dies!!!!!”

I drive exactly like Stan. In the winter, I generally only use the heat if it is below freezing after dark and to defrost the windows. During the day with plenty of sunlight, I never need to run the heat in the winter especially if I preheat the Bolt before I start my trip. In my previous 2017 Bolt and current 2020 bolt I tend to average 4.2 mi/kwH in the winter and 4.6 mi/kwH on mostly local driving in Northern Virginia and feather the shifter to maximize regenerative braking and staying below 65 mph as much as possible. Despite the recall woes, the Bolt is still a great car especially at its price point for those us who got them last year when they were clearing them out for the 2022 model year Bolts.

Stan was great! I drive my 2018 Bolt the same way he drives his, although heater off all the time is a bit more challenging in Ottawa, Canada. Can't wait for my new battery!

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you as the engine wants to come on below15°F if I can stand it in a 2018 CT6 2.0E plug-in.

@williamerazo3921

2 жыл бұрын

@@normt430 wrong car

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamerazo3921 electric heating life!

Nice video, thanks. I too own a 2021 Bolt Last summer with no heat or air on I was getting over 300 miles city driving. I love my Bolt. Cost me about 2.2 cents a mile to drive. My Ford Edge cost about 13-15 cents per mile.

@daviddrake6875

2 ай бұрын

Me too!

I got my battery swapped a few months ago and I am very happy. I also have a 17 and the longer range is so nice. I definitely notice the difference. Oh wow. The different climates definitely has a huge effect on the miles per kilowatt, mine is almost always at 4.0.

@TrainsFerriesFeet

2 жыл бұрын

I'm at 4.3 right now since the weather has been mild and I haven't used heat or A/C. This is with all local driving. I get about 3 on road trips, which is still much better than most EVs.

I also have a 17 Bolt LT. and just got the battery pack here in Hanover PA. Very happy with buying this car last year. Looking forward to the Equinox EV version next year

Great test, thanks Stan and Tom! Interesting results and nice to see the new pack slightly ahead of GM's promise to owners in terms of additional range, even at highway speeds.

Just bought a 2017 bolt with the new battery upgrade a couple days ago, perfect timing!

I did this same test in my 2020 Bolt a couple of years ago in the San Francisco Bay Area. The temperature was ~70F, and there was very little wind. I drove it down to 1% and got 231 miles.

@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate you writing this. My 2017 BMW i3 REx gets 125mi (before REx kicks in) in 60-70 degree conditions. When it gets cold (30-40) I get 100mi max.

@nogasnomad2198

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 bolt and I plan on visiting San Francisco later in May! Good to know the range is the same for me in Florida 80 deg temps with no hills.

The battery capacity should actually improve after the first 10 full charge cycles.

Stan "If we turned the heat off, we'd easily do 200..."

2020 Bolt owner here, I'm looking forward to getting this recall completed on my car, but I will only be getting back what my car was supposed to have to begin with. I'm glad to see that these are getting done, I'm not sure when my turn will come. I've never run mine down lower than 13 miles, I'm glad to see that it doesn't completely die at 0. That said, it hurts my eyes to see the white gauge, I put mine on dark the day I got it and I haven't changed it back.

@marywhalen364

2 жыл бұрын

I’m also a 2020 Bolt, can’t wait until I can go back to driving a reasonable distance. I’ve gone to 21 miles left. Hate the software update!

Great videos guys. I love the thoughtfulness that goes into these. You look at it both from a technical point of view and from an everyday user point of view.

I just did a 711 mile trip mostly Highway. Florida weather so warm. Got 3.5 miles/kwh. At 70 mph all the time. But I did this with the 80% limit software. My range meter was at 185 when charging to 80%. My daily commute I get 4.3 to 4.5 m/kwh. Very happy with the Bolt. 2020 and no news as of b yet for my battery will be upgraded.

@cali-electro-dad

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend calling your local dealer and just asking. After I got my letter my dealer still had to order the pack. When I dropped off my Bolt there were WALLS of batteries in crates behind the building. Couldn't hurt just to ask.

Interesting test! Thanks Stan and Tom!! I noticed on my first week with the new battery having that extra miles on the GOM but didn’t do a range test! Will be interesting how nice it is with the good weather coming up.

Thanks! Tom, you absolutely have to have Stan in future videos! You are a great team :)

This car is awsome,when you dont have to dc charge it.I swear to god i can see the grass growing when i do

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a terrible DC fast charging EV. I did record the full 0-100% recording after this range test, so I'll post that video in a week or two.

@user-oo3uj5ku9r

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@derylhunt4494

2 жыл бұрын

Is it a slow DCFast charge because of software limits or hardware maybe inverter?

@philippefagnant1841

2 жыл бұрын

@@derylhunt4494 both

Just had my 2017 battery replaced. Still feel unbelievably lucky to have gotten a new/free battery with almost 10% more power storage.

good video, guys! Very interesting and enjoyed the banter between you two.

"When I finally parked it(Bolt) at my home charging station, it had gone 322 miles on a single charge. Not bad for a car rated at 238 miles per charge. Even more impressive was the fact that I didn't really try very hard to get that many miles out of it. I spent plenty of time in traffic, which helped, but there were a few sections that I was moving along at 65-70 mph as well. No matter how you look at it, 322 miles out of a Bolt is pretty impressive." - Ed Hellwig Edmund's

@cali-electro-dad

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry WHAT? Edit: that must have been 100% downhill... WITH a tailwind.

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

@@cali-electro-dad Edmund's is based in California with hills and warmer weather.

@cali-electro-dad

2 жыл бұрын

@@normt430 Yea... me too. That still sounds impossible to me. Edit: ok well, now that we've gone through a handfull of battery cycles our predicated range is hitting those stats ... I got in this morning to see 342 as the top end estimate.

@jekutube9

2 жыл бұрын

We have come close to 300 predicted ave. Miles at full charge, we never deplete the battery, so hard to tell what we would have ended up at, to many conditions. But we do read 4.5 KwH spring,summer, fall.

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

@@jekutube9 is a late model Bolt or an older one with new battery?

Anyone with big bucks can buy a $100,000 Tesla and think they are trendsetters... BUT! It's guys like Stan and me who started long before Tesla who have really been ahead of the Curve! I started with a one-person Myers Motor's NMG, then two Leafs, then a Chevy Volt, then a 2020 Chevy Bolt LT. Today I sit here waiting on a brand new 2022 Chevy Bolt EUV Premium to arrive at my Dealers to do a retail to retail Sticker Swap. YES, my second Bolt, I love my current 2020! Thanks to Chevy for the $1,675 difference in their retail price. I will advance two years to a Loaded (every option say for SC), Bigger, Bolt! The 2021 $5000 Bolt Price Cut paid huge dividends to many of us Bolt Swappers!! The process has been, at times, painful! But considering GM is dealing with 143,000 separate deals, perhaps really not all that bad?? In the end, this issue is paying off in spades for most of us Bolt owners!! And that in a word is... FAIR!

I have a 2017 bolt with the new battery. Although I've owned my Bolt for almost 3 years, yesterday was the first time I took it for road trip. I drove 196.6 miles mostly on the interstate at mostly 65 mph with air conditioning running. Temp was about 85F. I was very surprised I only used 41.4 Kw. that is 4.74 miles per Kw or 210.58 watts per mile. I was showing 90 miles remaining at the end. That is way better than I expected. This was a trial trip in preparation for a 800 mile round trip tomorrow. I guess the colder temps had a significant impact on your test. I plan to document my trip tomorrow and post a video.

Proud owner of 2021 Bolt EV Premium averaging 5.0-5.3m/kw. My car named Mutt has had the range limiting GM update. I am probably last on the list for the battery exchange. With 80% charge (firmware limited) range indicator shows 283mi max. Never use heater as low seat heater and occasional steering wheel heat do the job. Live in SLC & love the Bolt.

@hawkeye125lh

3 ай бұрын

How did your car qualify for the new battery I just got my last week, it’s a return lease has 31000 and only charges to 80% and some people tell me GM has to put the new battery but I contacted GM and they state they know nothing about the recall please help …

@daviddrake6875

2 ай бұрын

@@hawkeye125lhWhat year?

@hawkeye125lh

2 ай бұрын

@@daviddrake6875 2021

Great video thanks Tom I have a 2022 Chevy Bolt and love driving it

I'm picking up a 2017 Bolt with a fresh battery in the next couple of weeks. I'm really excited about it!

Great video, it was exactly what I needed. We just had the battery replaced on our '17 and I wanted to know how far it would go at 70mph so we could take it on long trips. Even better, it was a kind of worst case scenario, i.e., two people in the car, running the heater, and running winter tires.

Just got the 66 kWh in my 2017 Bolt. Could not be happier. Added an average of 20-30 miles to my range. (Edit: Imma feather foot/ efficiency freak)

After I had my 2019 Premier battery replaced with a new one, there was one thing that did not change at all: my unconditional love to my Bolt. :)

I had my 2019 Bolt battery replaced last week. On the way back from the dealership I set cruise to 65mph and drove 73 miles home, that trip only used 25% of the battery (~60F ambient) at 4.5mi/kWh efficiency. After all this time keeping the battery (mostly) between 30% and 80% it was awesome to see a GOM reading of almost 300 miles after recharging at home.

2.6 to 2.8 was always my Chicago winter efficiency but I don't like being cold and I drove my Bolt like a normal car, and I also had changed to all weather tires which dropped it a few miles. But really the new pack isn't all that much bigger, but the new warranty was nice. Hopefully my '17 Premier went to a good home.

@jeffmann2494

2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know about the better tires. I live in Wis. and in any snow the Bolt is scary. Once I get my new battery I'm thinking about better snow tires.

It’s encouraging to see GM show goodwill to its beleaguered Bolt community with this replacement/upgrade. Considering how they’re playing catch-up with delivery of a meaningful volume of EV vehicles to market, this is a wise move. The Ultium-based vehicles had better hit the mark, else the company is in for a world of hurt.

@johnmastrogiovanni2358

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, It's not about goodwill. It's about manufacturing. The '20-'22 bolts use a larger battery pack, and they simply no longer make the smaller packs that are in the '17-'19s. Owners of newer bolts will see no upgrade since they already have the larger packs.

@rp9674

2 жыл бұрын

I look at it as goodwill, especially considering they won't get adequate credit for it, especially on KZread comments.

@ronniemullis8717

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmastrogiovanni2358 I don’t understand what you mean when you say the newer Bolts won’t get a different battery because I contacted three dealerships, one had an EUV Premiere in stock but I couldn’t drive it nor could they sell it until the battery is replaced.

@jekutube9

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronniemullis8717 he is just saying your miles per charge will remain the same, 66KwH battery exchanged for a NEWER version of a 66 KwH battery. Pre 2018 had 60 KwH batteries, so they get and additional 6 KwH bump.

Thanks AGAIN for another extnsive and in depth analysis Tom! You get all the finer points of EV operation and it's always refreshing to hear you speak about and break down all the math and the "nuts & Bolts". (See what I did there?)

This was interesting and informative. Great job!

This was a great comparison. You accounted for lots of variables, but you may have missed one. There was an extra passenger in the car when you tested the new battery. I'll bet you would have gotten at least a couple more miles if stan had been alone as he was in the first video.

I enjoyed the update on the Bolt battery replacement!

Now if the dealer will ever get around to replacing mine. GM says my battery is ready. Dealer says no. It's annoying

Ahhh. I have the more efficient tires on my car because we don't know what seasons are in Southern California. It definitely does make a difference having those higher performance tires. That is definitely a very important point to add in about the tires.

My local dealership doesn't have any bolts. I would love to test drive one. Great video.

Hiya Tom & Stan. I'm in Central NJ too, and recently purchased a used 2019 Bolt with a replacement battery pack. I have all season tires and have only put about 2k miles on the car with the new battery. Would be happy to do your turnpike range test if that would help.

I would like to see a simular video comparing the charge curve. I think that the better charge curve may have a more significant effect on the length of a road trip then the greater battery capacity.

@dennislyon5412

2 жыл бұрын

The charge curve that accompanies the OE 66 kwh batteries in the newer Bolts is a bit better in the 45-75% range. Hopefully that comes with the battery when the 2017-19 batteries are replaced, along with updated charging software.

Super cool. I have a 2021 Bolt here in Winnipeg, Canada. Whenever I do get a new battery from GM, that 13.5% range bonus will be a bonus for a car I love to pieces.

@vicandbronwenbrice9481

2 жыл бұрын

Your '21 already has the bigger battery.

@dannyschur7768

2 жыл бұрын

@@vicandbronwenbrice9481 Ah. Didn't know that. Oh well. A new battery will be welcome, whenever that happens.

This is very exciting. What if woke up one morning and GM had said, "Hey, we would like to give Bolt Owners a new battery that will get over 10% more distance. And, we will recommence the warranty at 8yr/80,000 miles."? Oh, we will give you a rental loaner while the replacement occurs, and we will give you a $1,400 prepaid Visa gift card to say "Thank you for letting us swap out your battery." That's what happened to me.

@hawkeye125lh

3 ай бұрын

I just got my premier it’s a return lease and I contacted Chevy about the recall online and they claim the heard of it and I know that my battery is changed. How would you recommend I go about fixing this because my car only charges 80% and it doesn’t seem to get the mileage I expected please…

This, to me, is the true test of Chevy Bolts and their distance. Every video I have seen has these fools claiming it has over 230 and above for distance when that just isn't accurate even in optimal conditions. Going on the Bolt Reddit forum, a lot of people are screenshotting their dash and it says something lile 300. Almost pissed myself laughing 🤣. Thank you for being real, objective and pushing it to the limits of reality; this is what new owners need to see.

This is consistant with what I am getting with my 2020 Bolt. Recently took a trip starting at fully charged for 171 miles, with 25 miles remaining on charge. Warmer weather greatly improves range.

We got our replacement battery in January and the sticker for our 2018 LT. We love the car and still have our winter tires on also. But we live at 1150 ft. in a hilly area. We are getting more range though and loving it.

Great video this is what i wanted to See about my bolt battery.

I traded my 2015 Nissan Leaf in for a used 2020 Chevrolet Bolt EV Premier. I am still waiting for my battery upgrade. So far my Bolt is still operating flawlessly.

I’m with Stan, heating an EV is a waste of energy and is only to be used when friends are aboard!

My wife has a 2017 Bolt with 72000 miles and the original battery. The dealership called yesterday and says our turn for replacement is finally here and the new battery is on order. Right now the car is estimating about 145 miles from of range due to the season and the fact that we replaced the original tires with Michelin Cross Climate 2. The original tires had better range but they were awful in the rain, especially as they aged. We were happy to trade range for better wet weather traction. Looking forward to the new battery and seeing what range we get back.

This is quite good for Bolt owners. Because of the degrade of the battery they get more Range than the 10% higher nominal battery capacity. 👍

Excellent video!!!

Living in Massachusetts, I was lucky enough to get a 2022 Bolt EUV for free for my 2017 with 66k on it. The process was an unbelievable pain. I then sold the car a week later for sticker and love my Mustang Mach E.

Even better results if you consider that the Bolt SHOULD have been limited to 95-80% according to the recall.

Brawo Stasiu, ja dopiero 8 lat jeżdżę bez ogrzewania na prądzie, ale tylko lokalnie bo mam w podłodze tylko 12kWh 🙂 Pozdrawiam z Polski 🔌

That’s awesome. Any addition is always appreciated to a lower range car. I wish mini might do a factory upgrade when it’s 5 years old to increase the battery pack by 6 kWh. Maybe the battery technologies will get better.

@aitorbleda8267

2 жыл бұрын

Battery technology keeps getting better. But sadly, the car brands price the batteries at ridiculous prices with huge markups, making most cars worth as much as the battery worth. The authorities should focus on this, as otherwise we would be throwing away cars for no good reason

@rp9674

2 жыл бұрын

I have that same dream, Fiat 500e, BMW i3. There's nothing in it for the auto manufacturers. Our best hope short of government intervention is aftermarket shops developing in the future, slim chance tho.

Hey Tom there’s a very small channel called voyage without carbon. He just did a cost review after 200 K miles on a model 3 LR. Very short video but fantastic I highly recommend

Very good test and good explanation of how you guys tried to keep parameters as close as possible to those in the test with the old batter. My question is this: With the old batteries, Chevrolet has been advising that you set the max charge to 90% (and more recently to 80%), and that you recharge while it still has an estimated 70 miles or more. Did you guys charge both cars fully before the test and then run the charge state as close as possible to zero?

My 2017 Bolt EV's battery was replaced two weeks ago. After the initial charging break-in period (three charge cycles all the way down to 20%) I did notice a difference when charging and the car was heavier making the car more stable and steer better. I do get more miles all the way up to 259 miles maximum. I love my Chevrolet Bolt EV. I will miss it when I buy the new 2023 Chevrolet Equinox EV RS edition. Its has the same technology as the upcoming Cadillac Lyriq EV but less luxurious but more sporty. I can't wait for it to come out!

Warmer weather, one person and low rolling resistance tires would easily get to 210 miles

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

2 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely

@CorwynGC

2 жыл бұрын

I was getting 4.4 mi/kWh back in Sept. that should get me 270 miles with the new battery.

I have a 2021 Premier Bolt (just got it used a couple of months ago with 7K mileage) and don't use the heat much either, even though I'm in MA and it's January. The heated steering wheel and seat are enough most days and they don't seem to impact the range as much as the fan and heat do. Love this car!

My 2019 Bolt has a new battery. This week I saw an estimated range (the middle # on the gauge) of 312 miles. The car is shared with other family members so I can’t report the actual range but that was a surprise!

While I don't own a Bolt my electric used to do 3.9 per Kw with slightly over inflated tires. When I upgraded my Michelin all weather tires to the second generation my average is 4.0. You are right, tires make a difference. I'm thinking that the first test being done when it was colder with one person in the car, having two people in the car when it is warmer might make the comparison a little more even. Nice as the Bolt is it's a little too small for me.

@h8GW

2 жыл бұрын

The Michelin CrossClimates with the cool V-tread? I've been looking into them so I can win an argument with my father on whether tires or 4WD make a bigger impact on safety during winter driving.

@lgrantnelson2863

2 жыл бұрын

@@h8GW I would say both. Front wheel drive is good in winter. I have found the Michelin Cross Climate to be relatively good in snow. Dry snow good wet snow problematic. I drive a front wheel drive Leaf and have good results. I watched a 4x4 make a left turn and slide into a ditch it couldn't get out of. Caution is the best safety. Overconfidence gets a person in trouble. I wouldn't be concerned about winning a bet. Just get the best equipment you feel comfortable with and drive carefully. The Cross Climate is a low rolling resistance tire that works well on electric cars. Might give better gas mileage also.

@h8GW

2 жыл бұрын

@@lgrantnelson2863 I'm fully aware, as I have a healthy appreciation for physics -and I literally take my car out to parking lots in blizzards so I can practice drift....er winter handling.- I'm trying to get him to know just having 4WD only gets you going faster and not much else, but unfortunately, he's not well educated.

Apparently, Stan doesn't trust Tom enough to lend him his car!

Thank you!

I have a bolt, it took the battery about a month to regulate itself and get back to the 50kw fast charging speed. I wonder if these guys tested it later if it would have gone longer. My new predicted range is 254 on a full state of charge now after a month.

@daviddrake6875

2 ай бұрын

Yes it has AI. Can be programmed to extend the range. Adjusts itself to the way you drive.

this is a VERY helpful video. I wonder how much range you lose driving at a more "normal" highway speed of 75-80 mph?

I am looking forward to the battery swap on our Opel Ampera-E (EU version of the Bolt). It might take some time before it is giving you all the kWh. And the fast charging should be better to.

GM sure had a lot of egg on the face after those fires. Nice to see they added 18-24mi range to every older Bolts. Sure wish they had a little larger EV, as the Bolt is just a little too small for me. Pucker effect happens under 5% of any EV when it comes to finding a charger. Great video Tom!

@cali-electro-dad

2 жыл бұрын

Have you checked out the Bolt EUV?

@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM

2 жыл бұрын

@@cali-electro-dad I have not. Have owned: Tesla M3-S-X, BMW i3.. Test drove: Mustang mach-e, VW ID.4, Polestar, Rivian. Ford, VW, Polestar and Riv are VERY well built cars. Have not been in a Bolt or new Bolt EUV. Waiting for GM to actually release a EV, hoping this new platform is as good as they say it is.

@phillyphil1513

2 жыл бұрын

re: "Pucker effect happens under 5% of any EV when it comes to finding a charger" but don't WE the supposedly "smarter than everybody else" EV owners have a LARGE DEGREE OF CONTROL over that...? both ICE and EV have this same "pucker effect" you speak of but ironically they both derive from the COMMON DENOMINATOR of bad planning/bad decision making on the part of the Human driver when he (or she) is seen trying to FORCE A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE (hint: don't drive past 10% in a Tesla or 20% in a CCS). this same phenomena can be observed in GA (General Aviation) when a Pilot crashes their Cessna for nothing more than FAILING to check whether or not their fuel level (before takeoff) would even be enough to get them to their destination airport.

@AutoReport1

2 жыл бұрын

@@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM Cadillac Lyriq, order books open in May. Production started couple of weeks ago.

@marcxiong8332

2 жыл бұрын

If you want bigger, get ready to spent north of $20k+ more for SUV (Mach E, ID4, model X, model Y). Ok the EV market, none of the bigger cars are affordable for the general public. That's going to be the downfall of EV imo

I had a 2018 Bolt EV purchased in Feb 2018. Then purchased a 2020 Taycan 4S, received end of 2020. With GM buy back I returned my Bolt in 2021 but I always loved it. So happy Stan has two Bolts and 2 new batteries..

In the middle of watching but a difference between the two tests of this Bolt is that the second test with the new battery has an extra person in the car. 😜 Nice to see that Chevy upped the battery size.

Waiting for my battery replacement upgrade!

I'm glad that the new battery packs are better than the old ones, but still not worth the hassle you have to go through to get one IMO I had a 2017 Bolt bought back from Chevy and purchased a new Tesla M3 SR+ and can't imagine going back to that bolt even with a new battery

Nobody talking about it, except everyone in every Bolt forum 🤣

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

2 жыл бұрын

Fair point.

W/o heater the windows on our 2020 bolt tend to fog up in the winter or cold weather( heated seats and steering wheel help to not turn up heat too high) so you do need to run heat to defog windows, which reduce miles. That being said we tend to ave. 275 summer and 210 winter… driving comfortably, 50% highway. Having fun passing gas stations.

I have a Bolt and let me tell you the cabin heater uses an ABSURD amount of power, I've seen it use as much as 8kW. A crying shame that GM didn't elect to install a heat pump in the car which would have provided heat much more efficiently.

@stanislavjaracz

2 жыл бұрын

The cabin heater has 6 kw, battery heater 2kw. 8kw is something you might see if you start your vehicle in bitter cold without preheating. Battery heater would run for at least ~30 minutes, cabin heater energy draw depends on your temperature settings. If you preheat, battery heater would be off (on road) and cabin could be 2-4 kw depending on many factors.

I drive a 2020 Bolt, but haven't gotten my new battery yet. I really have no complaints about it, but I had only planned on keeping it for a year or two until the VW Buzz became available. Now that the Buzz is further in the future, I might get something else before then. The Bolt is a great daily driver, but not quite comfortable enough for long road trips. I'm a native of central Jersey, but have been gone a long time. I can't wait to move back to my home state when I retire.

It's odd that the replacement Bolt EV battery only displayed 62 kWh usable. The 2020+ Bolt EV batteries I've tested have been closer to 65 kWh usable. Also, I'm curious about the conditions. I typically see far better efficiency at 70 mph in average conditions, and with the 2020+ battery, typically about 220 to 230 miles per charge at 70 mph. I'll have my replacement battery soon, so I look forward to seeing more data points.

I hope you do the test in May with all weather tires.

I keep seeing ads for new Bolts because the recall is over. Where is my battery?

nearly 80K miles on our Bolt EV, replacing the Li ion battery through the recall doubled our range

Very informative and entertaining video. While the battery should be able to withstand rare (1-2 times per month) 100% fast charges, how bad is it to drain battery to 1%? Has this test degraded Stan’s new battery or is it fine if the test isn’t repeated frequently? I doubt Stan will let the new battery discharge below 20% for a long time.

It would be interesting to see what % of the battery energy went to climate control from the energy consumption screen. That would give you an easy way to estimate how much more or less range you might get under different temperature conditions.

@dennislyon5412

2 жыл бұрын

For a longer test such as this, the climate portion in the Bolt’s center display is about 5 minutes (clock equivalent) on the pie chart, so about 8% of consumption.

@carlofuentes5113

8 ай бұрын

Did driving with two people instead of one get factored in?

@peterwright837

8 ай бұрын

@@carlofuentes5113 extra weight has very little impact on range.

Another difference between the two tests is that Tom was in the car for the second test. That makes the new battery look a little better still. 😂

One other difference: Stan was the only passenger in the first test. The second test had you as well. so one passenger vs 2.

@RyanWilliams222

2 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought.

@GregHassler

2 жыл бұрын

Makes no difference.

@CorwynGC

2 жыл бұрын

@@GregHassler Makes about 223 Watts of difference.

I got a new 2021 bolt last year for $27000 after taxes/fees before the recall for it. It's a good car, the info center is slow to connect to phone with USB type c connection. Might be my phone or cord.

This is a well-done and well-presented range test comparison. However, the title of this video suggests that there will be information that is obscure, that Chevy hasn't really mentioned. A slightly more powerful battery with slightly more range, and a full warranty, has been told by Chevy to all Bolt owners from the outset of the full recall. It's the ONLY thing that's been told to us, other than "you'll be slotted for your replacement according to VIN number, so no need to rush down to the dealership". Why would people be talking about this? Came across to me as click bait-ish.

I never use the heat, either, in my 2017 Bolt. I typically drive at 65 mph, and I will "draft". But... my drafting is further away that some typical NJ drivers following distance. I drive 183 miles twice a week as part of my commute and will have 25 to 75 miles of range left over.

Feeling really good about picking up my 2017 in October 2020 for $17k...

I bought a 2022 Bolt EV that was manufactured in 6/2021 and its battery was replaced in 2023.

2 other things that aren’t mentioned is that the DCFC is faster. Not faster peak speeds, but a better curve, especially compared the the “fixed” software update that GM released for the old packs. Also, the output power of the battery pack is better than the old ones throughout the SOC range , meaning it holds a better peak power output on the new pack. With my old 2019 Bolt pack, you could get 160kw peak output from about 100% down to about 92%, the new pack holds that 160kw to about 75%. It holds 150kw down to about 40% whereas the old Bolt pack would only output 150kw to about 70%. The majority of the old battery pack state of charge would only allow for about 135 kw peak power output, whereas the new battery pack will allow 150kw or more output over the majority of the pack SOC. Why does this matter? It makes a substantial difference in acceleration speed. Even with my 2022 Bolt EUV weighing more than the 2019 EV and accelerating a little slower at 100% SOC, it is about as quick as the 2019 EV through most of the pack and even faster than the 2019 EV at lower SOC because the battery outputs more power. Also, back to back testing done on the same day (in the winter) between the stock Michelin Energy Saver tires and Bridgestone Blizzak WS90 winter tires on my 2019 Bolt yielded absolutely zero difference in efficiency. So, some winter tires may cause an increase in rolling resistance, not all of them.

I run my Bolt at 4.1 miles/ kWh. I think motor efficiency drop is huge. Limit speed to 65 mph. I use a heated blanket on my lap, no cabin heater. The pitiful 50 kW charge speed makes it worthwhile.