The Chartist Movement (Political Reform in 19th Century Britain - Part 2)

Did you miss Part 1? Here is a link:
• The Reform Act of 1832...
In the first segment of this lecture, I discussed the circumstances surrounding the passage of the Reform Act of 1832, which extended suffrage to the urban middle classes. However, the working classes were still left without a voice in government. In the 1830s, the Chartist Movement gained steam. Over a million people signed the People's Charter in 1838, only to be ignored by Parliament.
Chartists campaigned for democratic reform based on six points:
1. Universal male suffrage (over 21)
2. Equal sized electoral districts
3. Secret Ballot
4. Eliminate property qualifications for Parliament
5. Pay for members of Parliament
6. Annual elections of Parliament
Although Parliament ignored the People's Charter, conservative leaders did pass several laws to try to placate the Chartists (Mines Act, Corn Laws Repeal, Ten Hour Act). The high water mark of Chartism was the Great Chartist Meeting in 1848. In the long run, all of the Chartists demands were met except for annual elections, so the Chartists were visionaries in a sense.
In the next segment, I will examine the Corn Laws and the circumstances leading to their repeal.

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  • @salmaahmed2366
    @salmaahmed23666 жыл бұрын

    Absolute lifesaver. Many thanks from a British history student :)

  • @adismell
    @adismell6 жыл бұрын

    Note also that a vote for every "man" was originally "for every person", but it was under pressure from the middle class that they compromised on that, which led to decades of fighting for women's suffrage. The merchants and industrialists thought it was bad enough that every (working class) man should have a vote, but that women should also have the vote (and especially working class women) was a horrific concept for them.

  • @StefanSzczelkun

    @StefanSzczelkun

    6 жыл бұрын

    Malcolm Chase, the historian of Chartism, recently made this point in a talk he gave in Kennington...

  • @NormanBatesIsMyMum
    @NormanBatesIsMyMum8 жыл бұрын

    Its really nice to see an American take a genuine interest in our history. You explain it well.

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    +NormanBatesIsMyMum What's also nice is that my British audience is so receptive to my British history videos. Thanks for supporting my work!

  • @dylanthompson8511

    @dylanthompson8511

    8 жыл бұрын

    Speaking as an American, our history is so BORING (way too utopian), my favorite subject in history class was always British history (especially medieval!).

  • @rajarajanmanoharan

    @rajarajanmanoharan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe "Utopia" is what they'd like for you to believe..#Conspiracy

  • @oussematrabelsi9429

    @oussematrabelsi9429

    5 жыл бұрын

    you are idiot , american history is not Utopian and is very interesting if you understand it

  • @zacharycohen183

    @zacharycohen183

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Kalel Henrik yup, I've been watching on flixzone} for since december myself :)

  • @Nichellebean
    @Nichellebean3 жыл бұрын

    In the U.S. in the 1830s you did NOT have universal male suffrage. The U.S. didn’t formally have universal male suffrage until 1868 but in practice most black men were barred from voting in southern states until the civil rights movement.

  • @AnarchoPurp

    @AnarchoPurp

    3 жыл бұрын

    True! And don’t forget Native Americans

  • @johnercek

    @johnercek

    Ай бұрын

    This jumped out immediately to me as well. Surprised your comment didn't have more response

  • @sarahlockyer167
    @sarahlockyer1677 жыл бұрын

    hi Tom, it's great that there is a interest in Chartist's. I live in Newport Wales where the 1839 raising happened. Thank you so much for showing our mural, it was very much a sad day when it came down. I think it showed everything that chartist's stood for and our history.

  • @Verse28
    @Verse28Ай бұрын

    I have my AP Euro test this Friday and this series helped me so much. Thanks for the entertaining and high quality lectures

  • @theharristrain
    @theharristrain8 жыл бұрын

    hi tom im a UK student and this is still very usefull thank you v much

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it! Was actually thinking about my UK audience when recording this lecture series. Decided to go into a little more depth hoping that students in the UK would appreciate it.

  • @anthonysanders5588
    @anthonysanders55887 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, succinct explanation, Tom - thank you. I'll certainly be viewing your other lectures. BTW I'm from England and have nothing but admiration for the Chartists who were roundly screwed by Parliament.

  • @azariabolton6387
    @azariabolton63877 жыл бұрын

    I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR VIDEOS! Seriously, they are the only thing getting me past AP Euro. Keep doing amazing videos, please! :)

  • @MrPolychinel
    @MrPolychinel8 жыл бұрын

    I discovered your channel few days ago and I've been watching hours of your videos already. Very interesting, well structured and very clear introduction to different historical topics. Thanks alot from Montreal, Quebec!

  • @alexpigeon692
    @alexpigeon6928 жыл бұрын

    good thing those children only have to work ten hours a day. I would hate to see them be abused. /s

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA

  • @sophiebowskill5012

    @sophiebowskill5012

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tom, that's some aggressive laughing

  • @Neuralassasin
    @Neuralassasin3 жыл бұрын

    The brevity of your exposition apropos to Chartist movement is amazing.

  • @alluusion4330
    @alluusion43306 жыл бұрын

    Here from Luxembourg! We're using your videos for our "Society, Culture and Politics in Britain during the 19th century" and this explains so much, thank you so much for these videos, keep up the great work ^^!

  • @learoche4738
    @learoche47386 жыл бұрын

    A big thank you from France, our test is in 6 hours and we might actually have a chance now! Please come and be a teacher in France, we need more teachers like you!

  • @yacinelaroug

    @yacinelaroug

    Жыл бұрын

    Je suis dans la même situation haha j'ai exam demain...

  • @thefifth9504
    @thefifth95047 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the lesson! I was studying this thoroughly for the past week and understood nothing of the subject, but in the way you delivered all the information i finally got it. I searched for some of these lessons in spanish before finding you (because i'm spanish) and found none so i apreciate that you do this. You earned yourself a subscriber and please keep doing these lessons!

  • @RobinT346
    @RobinT3465 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this refresher on the Chartists. Well delivered and a great comprehensive review!

  • @kibilia47
    @kibilia478 жыл бұрын

    that's how u made me fall in love with history tom ...love to watch ur series i m from india n me and my friend lov them

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    What a pleasure to be able to educate people in India! Thanks for the kind words.

  • @briquette2lait
    @briquette2lait5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for these videos ! I'm a french student learning British History and I wish I had a professor like you haha. Keep up the good work :)

  • @marcinkovalevskij5998
    @marcinkovalevskij59988 жыл бұрын

    Hello Tom, it's a good way to remember history classes from high school, keep going. Greetings from Warsaw. :)

  • @mileydu13014
    @mileydu130147 жыл бұрын

    Hello Tom! I'm from france and your videos are really helpful! Thank you

  • @Carl-Gauss
    @Carl-Gauss4 жыл бұрын

    9:08 Ahahah:) It’s actually a rather relevant theme in modern Russia (where I live). Though the government and opposition numbers differ only 2,5-3 times.

  • @Flfreedom
    @Flfreedom5 жыл бұрын

    I’m here because Season 3 of Victoria on PBS Masterpiece Theatre just started last week! Thank you for the insight.

  • @paulacr6941
    @paulacr69417 жыл бұрын

    Awesome class as always, but I here today to say thank you for sharing the exquisite mural!

  • @mejdahassaine5047
    @mejdahassaine50475 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy I found you. You are a great teacher

  • @MadisenPalomares
    @MadisenPalomares8 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos. :) I'm currently an AP Euro student and thinking about teaching history one day, so they're pretty helpful. Thanks for sharing your content on KZread!

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    A pleasure to help a prospective future history teacher. Supportive comments from people like you are are what keeps me going!

  • @user-mv4uf7rj5g
    @user-mv4uf7rj5g7 жыл бұрын

    Tom, you are great!

  • @fificute8475
    @fificute84758 жыл бұрын

    thank you to much tom i am an algerian student of english literature and it is very useful to me thanks a lot

  • @monkeyman-jd3wh
    @monkeyman-jd3wh4 жыл бұрын

    this is an epic video. i now know about The Chartist Movement Tom

  • @munkyguitar
    @munkyguitar3 жыл бұрын

    Again, brilliant work

  • @j.t.lennon177
    @j.t.lennon1776 жыл бұрын

    Considering our issues with equal size and unfair districts, we could use one of these movements.

  • @robtoe10
    @robtoe108 жыл бұрын

    There is a good set of exhibits about Chartism, the Peterloo Massacre and general working class-centred political movements since the early 19th century in the People's History Museum in Manchester

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see that sometime!

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson15888 ай бұрын

    Love this!

  • @janeeley1604
    @janeeley16042 жыл бұрын

    Great review. Just watched the series “Mill” on Prime. Interesting to se how difficult working conditions were and how they knew, in the early 19 th century…true universal suffrage would make poverty history. They sent Chartist leaders to Australia (as political prisoners). I can see now why Australia went straight to universal suffrage ( including women from 1902), after it’s Federation.. we had the children of all those Irish and English political convicts….. who believed in democracy and a fair days work for a fair days pay. 8hr work/8hr play/8hr sleep was an Australian founding value.

  • @fredneecher1746
    @fredneecher17466 жыл бұрын

    Just one thing. The parties were called Whigs and Tories. They didn't become Liberals and Conservatives until the middle of the 19th century, when they reluctantly embraced the idea of popular elections (but still only one third of men had the vote after the Second Reform Act in 1867).

  • @tamziid
    @tamziid8 жыл бұрын

    horses got injured lol man youre funny and also a good teacher

  • @clementboutin6725
    @clementboutin67254 жыл бұрын

    Great Job ! Greetings from a history teacher in France !

  • @ShaneInblack
    @ShaneInblack7 жыл бұрын

    i have an exam in an hour about this, thank you very much, you make it sound so simple

  • @jobaihy
    @jobaihy6 жыл бұрын

    That is very helpful and informative. Thanks a lot... I needed some some context background for reading Gaskell's Mary Barton

  • @seriousfacekaustav
    @seriousfacekaustav7 ай бұрын

    The intro is fire

  • @Skedaddlemahgaggle
    @Skedaddlemahgaggle Жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @mag-7924
    @mag-79245 жыл бұрын

    Student at university of Liverpool here, great series very helpful for overview i was looking for

  • @oliviaoneillx
    @oliviaoneillx6 жыл бұрын

    this is so helpful for my GCSE thank you!

  • @chuckyd71yt91
    @chuckyd71yt9124 күн бұрын

    peterloo is the place in manchester that it happened in, thats why its called the peterloo mascre

  • @itsmekarishma_____128
    @itsmekarishma_____1288 ай бұрын

    thank you so much, it was really helpful

  • @1rudgie
    @1rudgie5 жыл бұрын

    Your analysis that the newspaper owners didnt have a stake in downplaying numbers along with government is quite simplistic

  • @graysonguinn1943

    @graysonguinn1943

    5 жыл бұрын

    Judging from the number difference between the government and the newspaper I'd wager that the newspaper has somewhat accurate numbers

  • @preyisgay
    @preyisgay7 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Denmark, I thought this was a great video but I am wondering if you could tell me from which source you have Engels message to the British workers. I am working on a project about chartism and need the source if I want to use it, I have tried to find it but I was unsuccessful.

  • @907bigdog
    @907bigdog Жыл бұрын

    I think your videos are really good. I would recommend revising your statement about the United States having Universal Male Suffrage in the 1830s. Black men were still not even really counted as people, and they certainly didn't have the right to vote.

  • @rbeckett791
    @rbeckett7918 жыл бұрын

    The cavalry charge was not actually performed by government troops (who were present but did not participate). Instead the yeomanry, a militia generally formed from land or factory owners, the massacre was caused by jittery local magistrates rather than being ordered by parliament.

  • @rbeckett791

    @rbeckett791

    8 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel by the way

  • @luciaheller2856
    @luciaheller28565 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video on the industrial revolution? If not than you should make one

  • @user-bq5nl5cd7j
    @user-bq5nl5cd7j Жыл бұрын

    you are the greatest

  • @ethanoppenheim404
    @ethanoppenheim4046 жыл бұрын

    I wish you taught at my school, I'd love to have you as a history teacher for at least a year. Amazing job! I cited your video in my paper on chartism

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Ethan Oppenheim Thanks to KZread, I can teach you anytime!

  • @ethanoppenheim404

    @ethanoppenheim404

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tom Richey I’ll be sure to catch up on all your videos!

  • @softbean7
    @softbean72 жыл бұрын

    thank you! this helped with my paper. Grate information

  • @thereforeayam
    @thereforeayam4 жыл бұрын

    The meeting figure reported by newspapers most resembles the figure found in a written note by a magistrate witness (from Guardian article by Simon Murphy, "Note Reveals Early Details of Peterloo Massacre", August 14, 2019).

  • @peterhind6666
    @peterhind66667 жыл бұрын

    Hi from Whitby, North Yorkshire... thanks

  • @fijeralbreiki7055
    @fijeralbreiki70557 жыл бұрын

    thank you so so muc. i really did understand everything from lasts video and this one. u really did say me because i have a igcse history exam the next day and i don't understand the teacher. but i could understand from you. so once again thank you.

  • @fijeralbreiki7055

    @fijeralbreiki7055

    7 жыл бұрын

    btw I'm all the way from the United Arab Emirates. so keep doing these series its very useful. once again thank you.

  • @ryandavila4817
    @ryandavila48178 жыл бұрын

    Like your videos.

  • @graceclifford450
    @graceclifford4506 жыл бұрын

    The mural you depicted is supposed to be of the Newport Rising I'm pretty sure? Interesting lecture :)

  • @ishotgud3920

    @ishotgud3920

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is about the Newport rising at the Westgate Hotel.

  • @jasvnkaur
    @jasvnkaur7 жыл бұрын

    👍best teacher

  • @BolshevikCarpetbagger1917
    @BolshevikCarpetbagger19174 жыл бұрын

    What was the Charists' position on the British defeat in Afghanistan?

  • @KalyanKariniPandey
    @KalyanKariniPandey Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! :)

  • @LibraryAcademyy
    @LibraryAcademyy6 жыл бұрын

    Sir , my question is how can we say that 1832 and 1867 acts were remarkable point in british history ?

  • @MikeGreenwood51

    @MikeGreenwood51

    6 жыл бұрын

    To Rohit, How can you ask? If you had no say at all in any supposed governance of your self or yyour children. Would not the day you or your family received a right to vote be remarkable?

  • @kaitlyncarroll3314
    @kaitlyncarroll33147 жыл бұрын

    Cramming for an AP Euro test is a whole lot easier with these videos 😀

  • @mathewjohnable
    @mathewjohnable7 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc943 жыл бұрын

    7:30 *1818 is ~30 years before marx wrote the communist manifesto* . so it isnt maxist language. maybe marx used chartist language. but this just sounds like equality & equity striving (as a lot of communism/socialism is. on paper at least.)

  • @rkit10
    @rkit108 жыл бұрын

    Any thoughts on whether the British empire was fundamentally different to that of France or China in the nineteenth century....got an assignment due :(

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if I have anything to offer but I hope your assignment goes well!

  • @rkit10

    @rkit10

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Tom Richey thanks:) 2000 words have been produced, not sure they make sense but they are there! Really enjoy your channel :)

  • @lazarochavezpelukeriachave3306
    @lazarochavezpelukeriachave33068 жыл бұрын

    teacher how you can memorize all this information.

  • @user-rc3wh3fv2w
    @user-rc3wh3fv2w5 ай бұрын

    Great vid hun🙉

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc943 жыл бұрын

    12:40 that only hapns if the threat of violent revolution seems real. JC

  • @methulfernando9040
    @methulfernando90403 жыл бұрын

    thank u this helped me alot i got an A in my history test

  • @jtk1ify
    @jtk1ify4 жыл бұрын

    thank you for a clear explanation of events, but i do think that the term working class should really be replaced by enslaved class. oh and how awful for those concerned about their property, and that was not all they were concerned about. some employers were paying their workers in tokens that could only be spent in the business owners store. no wealth could be accumulated by the slaves so freedom to choose did not exist. they did not want that to change! and then the outright inhumane attempt to destroy the chartists with use of the state resources. what an elite rabble have dominated the people of england and still do with their false promises and lies of trickledown economics

  • @mckenyon
    @mckenyon Жыл бұрын

    It is not a given in the USA that electoral districts are equal sized because of the bicameral legislature. There are two Senators for each state, whether California or Texas or North Dakota or Rhode Island. The Senators from North Dakota or Wyoming represent less that one-fiftieth of the population as do those of California. We have our own "rotten boroughs" problem built right into the system. And just as the opponents of Chartism, its defenders cite tradition as the justification. Also, in reverse, a little over 40% of the population of the USA , mostly in the smaller states, can hold a majority of both houses. So, I say we need an American Chartist movement today to ensure that a majority of the population voting in elections should almost always be able to achieve a ruling majority to accomplish what the majority of voters want.

  • @JuanitaGoliszewski
    @JuanitaGoliszewski8 жыл бұрын

    Poor horses. :o(

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    IKR

  • @MikeGreenwood51

    @MikeGreenwood51

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hay!

  • @wilo1st

    @wilo1st

    5 жыл бұрын

    Juanita Goliszewski. 15 people died. Are you for real. Poor horse's!

  • @jean_mollycutpurse_winchester
    @jean_mollycutpurse_winchester5 жыл бұрын

    Why was that beautiful artwork destroyed?

  • @MissNimmiDarlin
    @MissNimmiDarlin8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom! Hope that's tea you're drinking...

  • @HarmonyKelpNguyen
    @HarmonyKelpNguyen8 жыл бұрын

    I have my AP Euro final in a few days..any tips? I need a miracle like France needed a hero after the French Revolution.

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    +HarmonyKelpNguyen I've got a website with resources and also an app called Romulus Euro if you have an iPhone. Check it out at the app store! The 1.1 update should be released this week that will correct some errors and add some more questions.

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    8 жыл бұрын

    Watch my videos. Download Romulus Euro from the App Store. Check out my website for other helpful resources.

  • @SebastianPottle-wo6yb
    @SebastianPottle-wo6yb24 күн бұрын

    the protests happening before the peterloo massacre were actually peaceful, whole families with their kids were there, the upper class just felt threatened by the sheer numbers and what could happen if they became violent (which they weren't) so they sent in the cavalry

  • @angelmogli
    @angelmogli7 жыл бұрын

    hey tom is the part 3 out?

  • @tomrichey

    @tomrichey

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Angel Tyagi Yeah... Is it not linked?

  • @angelmogli

    @angelmogli

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yaa i got it... hey tom i love your work but m sad that u dint do napoleon wars.. properly.. plz take that topic.. how he became hero and then a zero.. i want to kno every thing.. hoping that u will accept my request. Greetings from india.

  • @angelmogli

    @angelmogli

    7 жыл бұрын

    tom.. plz.. . m so confused about this topic. i ping you at 2:30 am.. imagine my earnest request...

  • @paulnoble3965
    @paulnoble39655 жыл бұрын

    Interesting presentation. Newport is Wales though, not England!!

  • @richiearkarich
    @richiearkarich6 жыл бұрын

    5:25 onwards pure matthew mcconaughey.."alright alright alright"..uptil 5:27

  • @adismell
    @adismell6 жыл бұрын

    Try to use the actual language that the Chartists used, otherwise the students won't recognise concepts in the sources or in text books. Example: point number 2 refers to "equal constituencies", a point that is debated up to the present day in UK politics. How do you ensure equal constituencies, i.e. do you have to redraw the maps/boundaries as populations shift in order to rebalance them every now and again? Also, small point, but "less" is for uncountable nouns, not countable nouns like "people". The word is "fewer".

  • @guillermoperis1673
    @guillermoperis16733 жыл бұрын

    aah...nope. In the 1830s there was no universal male suffrage in the States. The 19th ammendment, giving women the right to vote in the States, was passed in 1920.

  • @davidlloyd2225
    @davidlloyd2225 Жыл бұрын

    0:09 my ancestry, Manchester/workhouses...robert owen 🇬🇧💯❤️ 0:57

  • @simonhannah7219
    @simonhannah72194 жыл бұрын

    Really good until the bit where you say "the newspapers main objective is to report the news" - ignoring all the issues with ownership/editorial bias, censorship, etc

  • @Coach_MarcyBob
    @Coach_MarcyBob3 жыл бұрын

    Why couldn’t he have been my history teacher??😩😩😩

  • @queenbob5543
    @queenbob55434 жыл бұрын

    2020??? Anyone history homework in lockdown ??

  • @albussarmy4974
    @albussarmy4974Ай бұрын

    why is this exactly what i’m doing literally in year 8 😭

  • @sandeshupreti6600
    @sandeshupreti66008 жыл бұрын

    Does he look like Matt Demon??

  • @dominicarlt5930

    @dominicarlt5930

    6 жыл бұрын

    but from texas

  • @selimnasr2068

    @selimnasr2068

    5 жыл бұрын

    Paul Rudd actually

  • @LukeSkyblocker
    @LukeSkyblocker6 жыл бұрын

    *Ben Dover* hahaha im so done

  • @dudus6566
    @dudus65662 жыл бұрын

    v sauce cousin

  • @kellykiernan7785
    @kellykiernan77853 жыл бұрын

    Sir did you just say that America had "universal male suffrage" in 1832? I'm not going to get on a soap box and give you a lecture but I'm sure you realize that is an ignorant comment.

  • @honeymiddleton1089
    @honeymiddleton10892 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! But did you know that 1/10 of the world population are chinese farmers!!! 👍

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    A newspaper that just wants to report the news... ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  • @LancasterClown

    @LancasterClown

    5 жыл бұрын

    Earl Minime is right, the Observer in these days was getting a government subsidy so the editor would be under pressure to compromise, however at the the same time the Observer was developing a Left Wing position since the Peterloo Massacre. From modern experience, the people on the ground modestly exaggerate the number of attendees based on people coming and going throughout the day, the police and newspapers massively underestimate the numbers to play down the size of support. Which would suggest a number between 50,000 and 300,000 is more likely. However, it would depend on whether these kinds of mass meetings had become commonplace in the era for the newspapers to develop a formal strategy of downplaying protester numbers.

  • @anaximemessaganstein9732
    @anaximemessaganstein97325 жыл бұрын

    Carlyle brought me here

  • @finnlynch9733
    @finnlynch97334 жыл бұрын

    POV

  • @bowserboi9199
    @bowserboi91994 жыл бұрын

    iam from newport and the reason they took down the wall because they were ignorant!!!

  • @bowserboi9199

    @bowserboi9199

    4 жыл бұрын

    are history was dump in a dust yard!

  • @lesleyannjones3697
    @lesleyannjones36978 ай бұрын

    Please avoid getting your terminology wrong. This Counntry is The United Kingdom, England ceased to exist as a sovereign country in 1707.

  • @matthewmcintosh8314
    @matthewmcintosh8314 Жыл бұрын

    "People have some valid concerns" is a highly misleading way of representing this. The ruling classes in Britain were, of course, concerned. But you should frame it as "concerned that they might lose their method of maintaining and expanding their wealth." Very different (and far less important) than the concerns of the working class here. I'm all for avoiding presentism, but this is simply misleading and fearmongering.

  • @matthewmcintosh8314

    @matthewmcintosh8314

    Жыл бұрын

    Also framing the Sunday Observer as objective -- "their motive is to report the news" -- is similarly misleading. The Sunday Observer, like any paper, had biases, and likely was terrified of the Chartists. Please consider the way you represent these important historical events!

  • @matthewmcintosh8314

    @matthewmcintosh8314

    Жыл бұрын

    and another one -- "they just want a government that doesn't ignore them, and that's what they end up getting" is a massive oversimplification. Like any social movement, the chartists contained numerous attitudes, some violent, some more reformist. secondly, it's hard to call these reforms the government "not ignoring" them -- sure, some were thrilled with them, but they were still meaningfully ignored. describing ignoring them as a binary (either they are or they are not being ignored) is also misleading and obfuscates the complexity of political movements.

  • @xxxluvi
    @xxxluvi Жыл бұрын

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