Yep saw thousands of acres chain dragged and burnt years ago just so trees could be planted for carbon credits , absolutely moronic idea .

@franpie2264

Ай бұрын

moronic idea made up by morons yep

@justinm2697

Ай бұрын

The entire notion of carbon credits is moronic, made even more so in the buying and selling of the credits.

@hannesRSA

Ай бұрын

Dumbest approach. Net carbon reduction should be managed for the long term at a higher level than individual commerce. No carbon has been stored in a plantation on an old plantation.. the wood produced will return to the atmosphere eventually.

@user-ek5eb6rk6d

Ай бұрын

Other countries are saving Forrest’s, what is this BS, our poor iconic koalas 🐨

Carbon offsetting sounds like BS

@slayorcs

Ай бұрын

It is, it's s a total scam.

@felinemad

Ай бұрын

It totally is, those poor koalas. 😡

@stimpyfeelinit

Ай бұрын

Carbon offsetting is an extension of the virtualisation of financial markets. We see a nice park with intrinsic value for walking dogs or providing habitat - whereas finance see it as a carbon sequestration service. its how they put a virtual value on something intrinsically worthless to financial institutions. Unfortunately people aren't open to the idea that carbon dioxide is the trace gas of life. Nothing grows without it. This koala habitat being destroyed is a direct result of both capitalism and ironically 'green' ideals.

@user-ek5eb6rk6d

Ай бұрын

It is, so wrong.😢

@felinemad

Ай бұрын

@@user-ek5eb6rk6d It’s criminal.

absolutely disgusting

Greenwashing to continue infinite economic growth at all costs. Ecosophia

@blackmancer

Ай бұрын

How come the Earth had higher temperatures and CO2 millions of years ago yet didn't dissolve into Venus?

The Answer is to drop the Carbon credit system

@asecretcountry

Ай бұрын

They cant..the whole grift is built around two tricks..1/Carbon credits 2/Renewable Energy Certificates...That`s the bigger hustle!! Overseas(mostly)companies produce energy at a loss from "renewable" sources .. They are then paid once for the energy to the grid..and a second time when the certificate(REC) is "closed" and get paid from the public $)...windmills are an even better grift,..same as above with a bonus of "constraint payments" when their energy is not needed..they get a third slice out of the public $ again...

Money speaks louder than woods . . . Unfortunately!

Where are the so called .. custodians of the land? Why is there no people standing against this?

The Nature Conservation Council of New South Wales (NCC) has today released a new report from Frontier Economics which reveals for the first time that hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars have been gifted to the taxpayer owned logging business Forestry Corporation NSW (Forestry Corp) over the past five years. The report finds the taxpayer-owned logging business received $246.9 million worth of grants since 2019/20 financial year, while the hardwood division (which is responsible for native forest logging) made a loss of $28.2 million over the same period. Carbon credit scheme is a sham!

@franpie2264

Ай бұрын

YEP !!

@beechbums9490

Ай бұрын

Claims that the sustainable removal of timber from just 12% of our public forests is subsidised, with hundreds of millions of our tax dollars lost logging native forests in recent years is a deliberate misinterpretation of the facts and a classic ideologue’s description of Community Service Obligations (CSOs). CSOs are the delivery of services including road construction and maintenance for community purposes, firefighting and prevention for community purposes, recreation and tourism activities, community and government engagement, research and development and management of the parts of State forest not available for timber production (Annual Report 2022-23, Forestry Corporation of NSW, Pg. 26). Each year, the NSW Government funds a percentage of the cost of Forestry Corporation of NSW (FCNSW) providing to compensate for the delivery of services that a similar commercial business would not provide. FCNSW annually receives a meagre $8.50/hectare to manage their 1.8 million hectares of multiple-use native forest and 34,000 hectares of hardwood plantations for the public good. On the other hand, the National Parks & Wildlife Service receives on average $121/hectare to manage their 7.6 million hectares (before the costs were hidden within Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water after 2019). Of the $15M “loss” referred to, only $2M was associated with timber harvesting of native forests and was due to extended wet weather, inflationary pressures, particularly a spike in fuel prices and investment in compliance assurance. The balance related to the cost of delivering community services across the State. Rather than losing money as claimed, FCNSW paid a dividend of $13.5 million (FY22: $0.4 million) to NSW Treasury for the 2022-23 financial year and their balance sheet shows their cash position remains robust at $128 million (FY22: $101 million).

@blackmancer

Ай бұрын

We should be in school!

A part of me dies when I see my country dying.

@lionelplunkett9428

Ай бұрын

Me too mate it's really affecting me I too can feel it dieing . We are all heading down a really dark road can almost feel the end coming the human race needs a kull it a shame everything else is lost because of our evil ways

@avielau7333

Ай бұрын

If it's any consolation, every other country is dying too

Solution, the Government will lock everyone out of the parks....oh wait, that has already started.

Timber is needed so logging isn't going away, but planting monoculture 'forests' needs to go away.

@bushcritta1281

Ай бұрын

I agree...there will always be a need 4 timber....plantations with single species is not the way 4ward....a true forrest has multiple species, that's what makes n ecosystem/environment...I don't know what the answer is but we need both...Australian arborist from the sth coast NSW

The BS that came out of Minns mouth was astounding and sadly I think he believes he is doing good. Carbon credits are obviously not working. Look at the financial losses incurred and the destruction created to be replanted in the name of gaining carbon credits. WTF!!! As said in the video. A licence to pollute and destroy is all these credits are truly about..

@blackmancer

Ай бұрын

Also, when India and China output over half the worlds CO2.... it's all a bit pointless.

A farmer will get fined if he knocks down a 2 metre regrowth tree to keep farming to produce food

Iv fell trees my whole life on the Murray River an surrounded rivers we never clear felled the forest only selected trees an didn't go to small as to preserve a 5 to 10 to 15 year turn around depending on the erea an how fast they grew .it worked an the forest is prestine .I'm watching this video an feel very sad an bad for the koalas an the lovely couple trying to save such a threatened species. There should never be clear felling it's just a lazy care free way to harvest. I hope for the couple an there forest they win this battle.

Why is Victoria doing it? I'm a Queenslander and Queensland is off the rails and has been since Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420

Ай бұрын

I am reminded of the daintree road joh put smack bang through the thing purely to spite the greens, and then the leading cause of death for cassowary from that point on was, unsurprisingly, car. Actual madness.

@stevelawrie9115

Ай бұрын

@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 I remember it too. Talk about bloody mindedness.

@alwaysright3718

Ай бұрын

QLD is destroying more old growth forest than the rest of the world added together to put up huge fans that do nothing...

@zappy7393

Ай бұрын

@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 and now we have a $40mil eco bridge that apparently is not fit for purpose.

@blackmancer

Ай бұрын

@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 The problem with Greens is the only solution they have is "Shut it down!". They've never once in 50yrs come up with a viable solution to world power needs, they just expect everyone to do what they say and go back to living in a cave, which at some point they'll try to convince you of the inhumanity of eating other animals and that the world would be better off if humans never existed. They are powerless complete morons seeking a Nirvana that only technology can provide, and they ain't the engineer types, they're the "I should be in school" type who've picked up a handful of puzzle pieces thinking they know the whole picture with an uncontrollable desire to parrot what others around them say as a means to be approved in the social group. They ARE socialists afterall.

The Labor Government promised to act - we’re simply asking them to keep their promise to protect koala habitat and native forests. We've coordinated an open letter, signed by more than 100 political leaders, academics, environment and climate experts, calling on the NSW Premier to immediately end all logging in public native forests and koala habitat. Please chip in to help us put the letter in the papers: theaus.in/support_protectkoalaopenletter You can also add your name to the open letter to send a message to the NSW Government that you want these precious forests protected > theaus.in/protectforestsNSW

@mattdolphin7192

Ай бұрын

Let's hope they can undo the harm caused by the Liberals. Bloody disgusting

@zappy7393

Ай бұрын

@@mattdolphin7192 If they were going to, they would have by now. They simply wont and are equally to blame.

@beechbums9490

Ай бұрын

@theausinstitute suggest you read the election promise. The Australian Labor Party’s (NSW Branch) (NSW ALP) promise was to establish a Great Koala National Park located between Kempsey and Coffs Harbour within their first term of government (not immediately). The scale, scope and size was to be determined through the assessment process and in consultation with industry, the community and Aboriginal communities. "Labor is committed to saving koalas and other threatened species by protecting their habitat. We are going to create a Great Koala National Park. We have allocated $80 million to establish the park including 140,000 hectares of national parks and the assessment of 176,000 hectares of state forest".

We will be our own downfall! This is crazy!!!!!!

@brandedtokill

Ай бұрын

All because of a tiny group of psychopaths & the apathy of the majority, plugged into the Matrix & taking all our progress for granted.

It is satan at work

@sevensfist_com

Ай бұрын

THE FALL OF THE ANOINTED CHERUB THAT COVERETH! Ezekiel 28:13 You used to be in Eden- God’s paradise! 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub; 28:15 You were blameless in your behavior from the day you were created UNTIL wickedness was discovered in you. The Until denotes a time factor, meaning his fall came after creation was made and there was some type of time factor such as a day & night = 1 Day Who did he Covereth? He was Adam & Eve's Anointed Guardian Angel in Eden! When Adam & Eve disobeyed GOD and ate of the fruit, sin entered all of creation through their created flesh and their connected Anointed Cherub (in the form of Pride/thinking he was now better than fallen man), because man had fallen from GOD's glory and was no longer being clothed in Light. Adam & Eve were now dimensionally separated from GOD and the heavenly realm of their anointed Cherub; and so Pride, contempt & disgust for man filled their angel/higher self and iniquity found in Him. Yes, back then our flesh was clothed in Light, we were the Shining Ones. And in the pool's reflection, gazing at herself she questioned out loud, "Did GOD really say?" "Surely you won't die!" Her higher self comforted her flesh, meaning surely you won't drop dead instantly.👊🤣✌️ Fun fact: Did GOD really say? Eve was not yet taken out of Adam's side and was not physically around when GOD instructed Adam not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good & evil. So that is why she questioned, "Did GOD really say?" And in the absence of belief, only doubt can creep in and fill the void.👊😇✝️ Who tempted Eve? Well, I believe her serpent did(with all its fancy ten fingers & toes), Her Flesh! Jesus's crucifixion represents the brazen serpent on a pole that moses was told to erect to heal the sick, etc... We ourselves shed our skin once a month and are the craftiest of all GOD'S creatures from the garden! Our flesh is one big serpent/earthworm from our teeth, down our squiggly wiggly intestines and out the back end. And we are now destined to toil in the dust for our food. We are to crucify our flesh/serpent everyday by picking up our cross✝️ Otherwise, Hell... Mark 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. SHALOM!...👊😇✌️

I cant save your life until i can profit from it.

@GazGuitarz

Ай бұрын

Is that the AMA's mission statement?

Yum, yum, money, money...yummy. Cash beats reality again. Yum.

South west Sydney has been terrible. Huge amounts of thick bushland absolutely decimated without any care just to get squeeze more houses in. Finding more and more koala hit by cars at night due to the lack of housing for them.

@deanpd3402

Ай бұрын

66 years of living in Oz. Have done a lot of driving. I've seen plenty of road kill in my driving life. Kanga's, wombats, bird life as well as domestic animals but I have never seen a dead koala on the road...so you tell a remarkable tale. If you have a problem with more housing then you had better get on to Albo and tell him to shut the gate.

@paolatorti7265

Ай бұрын

Go to Appin Road, Campbelltow . 33 koalas hit and killed in the last year!!! Follow Save Sydneys koalas and you will see

@paolatorti7265

Ай бұрын

Go to Appin Road, Campbelltown. 33 koalas hit and killed in the last year!!!

@tilapiadave3234

Ай бұрын

Just to squeeze more houses in ,,,, the alternative was to allow those 100,000 people to ALL live at YOUR house

@mrdodgex

Ай бұрын

Why are the boomers bringing up immigration? 😂 absolutely clueless lot will blame everyone else

Not gonna say anything but a friendly birdy named jordies once told me almost every single year Koalas are gonna disappear

@YogGroggoth-yv5tt

Ай бұрын

There are heaps of them, still shouldnt wipe out their homes tho

@deanpd3402

Ай бұрын

Jordies is as much of a crook as his mentor Kevin Rudd.

@Crudmonkey211

Ай бұрын

There are less than 40,000 left in the wild, that is not heaps. They are a threatened species for a reason.

Again the Australia Institute is proving to be the most valuable information source in Australia. Thanks

That's the whole fucking point. You can't retroactively do it because it was going to protected anyway! How do these people sleep at night?

@MrTomjensen

Ай бұрын

they sleep smugly by knowing they get a massive pay-out for the BS scams they run on everything they get near

There used to be a healthy koala population in Pacific Palms (midnorthcoast) Until National Parks and Wildlife Services took control from N.S.W. State Forestry and implemented their No Burn Policy allowing under growth to build up for years only to be INCINERATED in Summer's Heat, either started by Lightning or Arsonists Many animals that couldn't either Fly, Burrow to escape perish in the N.P.W.S. Promoted Infernos. Koalas populations were devastated.

@kearingoodwin4856

Ай бұрын

None of what you said is true.

@ianking-jv4hg

Ай бұрын

@@kearingoodwin4856 believe what you will !

@ianking-jv4hg

Ай бұрын

@@kearingoodwin4856 believe what you will. also town dogs are a problem. One dog is only one dog that most koalas can handle, Two or three become a pack a n koala has minimal chance of survival.

@joshuamak9930

Ай бұрын

@@kearingoodwin4856why would he not be truthful?

@ianking-jv4hg

Ай бұрын

@@kearingoodwin4856 Booti Booti, Gogerly's farm (bull paddock), became State Recreation Area 30 September 1977 and became National Parks in 1992. Never heard a koala there in the 90's.

Intro.. The forests are critical for the battle against climate change. What a premise.

Terrible.

Can NSW university be trusted with corporate donations... nothing to see here ‼️..

Our tax dollars at work

What is the call to action here? What does The Australia Institute recommend we do?

Listening to Minns justifying this atrocity makes me feel nauseous.

I live on the Mid North Coast and have seen great swathes of natural bushland destroyed mainly by developers and farmers in the last few years. Recently a new development on land near Bluey's Beach has clear felled every tree and has not left a living creature after grading all the topsoil. All the huge trees were wood chipped or saved for lumber. This has left one side of a large hill totally denuded of vegetation. This area was prime koala habitat. Many other local areas have been affected by this style of clearing land including around Nowendoc, Johns River, Forster, Bonny hills and Pacific Palms. We need to change this practice of complete destruction of every living creature and destroying habitat by Developers just chasing the dollar. Many of these developers or new farmers have no real historic connection to these areas which have been protected and cared for by local people to no avail for many years.

The argument for carbon credits makes as much sense as saying Koalas will never be extinct as long as there is a picture of one on our coat of arms .

@deanpd3402

Ай бұрын

Did you know that before the fires of 2019/2020 that Koalas were marked down as a pest species on Kangaroo Island. They had 30,000 of them and they were planning to cull them. Then the fires came and did the culling for them. Inside of a week, koala charities sprang up, 'save the Kangaroo Island Koala's' they said. The opp for a fast buck was seen. Then the WWF saw an opportunity going begging and they jumped in on the save the koala campaign...but isn't it funny how you never hear of a 'save the red belly black snake', campaign? Not so cute and cuddly looking.

What the hell are they doing?! Creating hell on earth, that's what!

Australia is all about protecting business profits and nothing else matters.

@aussiegruber86

Ай бұрын

Sorry gen z, sorry for the extinctions, the overpriced houses, the overpriced education, the over priced groceries….really sorry

@YogGroggoth-yv5tt

Ай бұрын

Australia corp

@mjones8170

Ай бұрын

​@aussiegruber86 Gen Z are just as bad at protecting the environment. Just look at the fast fashion in the clothing industry that they support.

Its trying to attach a dollar value to yet another thing but not mums raising their children instead of going into the 'paid' workforce

Thanks for some real journalism, won't get anything like this from Murdoch and Costello owned media.

@DeepCreekTV

Ай бұрын

You either 1 don't live in the area or 2 you don't watch local TV news because your comment is wrong.

@noholesbarred

Ай бұрын

Friendly jordies covered this before the last election saying it’s the nats and libs That labour would end it

I guess Amazon forest devastation didn’t say anything to the loggers-criminal, disgusting-and the world is surprised the weather is effected

Councils and developers have a lot to answer for as well

Totally evil behaviour, despicable Labor Government not doing anything!👎🏻 ❤️🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺

@mewoozy2

Ай бұрын

Focusing on the government that hasn't gotten around to fixing the previous Government's mess I see. The logging is a Liberal/Nationals initiative.

@saltyaussie7702

Ай бұрын

​@@mewoozy2this is policy from 2012. Both sides of government are responsible because neither have changed the Act in 14yrs. Just blaming the previous government is hilarious & lazy!

Bushrangers are thriving, untouchables.

@Blackheathenly

Ай бұрын

I think you mean destructive wankers.

Carbon farming is actually a pretty good thing because in areas where poor people live they can get a income. Obviously big companies are using this too to get a clean green image. You just can't cut down a healthy forest and than claim that you plant a new forest

The logging industry has pester power, in Canberra every day lobbying, taxpayers are subsidising them yet they have run at a loss for several years. It is a redundant and IRREVERSIBLY destructive industry. It must stop NOW. We must pressure our MPs: write, email, make an appointment and ask what your MP is doing about logging of old growth forests. Read a new book called The Forest Wars by David Lindenmayer , it's easy to read, short and gives you all the info you need to argue with - for eg thinned forests are MORE flammable and greater bushfire risks.

@deanpd3402

Ай бұрын

Funny how the logging industry up on the Dorrigo plateau has been successfully logging since the early 50s, at least, yet there is still plenty of forest around where they log. Remarkable isn't it? Maybe they log much more sustainably they are given credit for.

@beechbums9490

Ай бұрын

Claims that the sustainable removal of timber from just 12% of our public forests is subsidised is a deliberate misinterpretation of the facts and a classic ideologue’s description of Community Service Obligations (CSOs). CSOs are the delivery of services including road construction and maintenance for community purposes, firefighting and prevention for community purposes, recreation and tourism activities, community and government engagement, research and development and management of the parts of State forest not available for timber production (Annual Report 2022-23, Forestry Corporation of NSW, Pg. 26). Each year, the NSW Government funds a percentage of the cost of Forestry Corporation of NSW (FCNSW) providing to compensate for the delivery of services that a similar commercial business would not provide. FCNSW annually receives a meagre $8.50/hectare to manage their 1.8 million hectares of multiple-use native forest and 34,000 hectares of hardwood plantations for the public good. On the other hand, the National Parks & Wildlife Service receives on average $121/hectare to manage their 7.6 million hectares (before the costs were hidden within Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water after 2019). Of the $15M “loss” referred to, only $2M was associated with timber harvesting of native forests and was due to extended wet weather, inflationary pressures, particularly a spike in fuel prices and investment in compliance assurance. The balance related to the cost of delivering community services across the State. Rather than losing money as claimed, FCNSW paid a dividend of $13.5 million (FY22: $0.4 million) to NSW Treasury for the 2022-23 financial year and their balance sheet shows their cash position remains robust at $128 million (FY22: $101 million).

We need a lunatic offset...

Australia's treatment of koalas is a disgrace.

Unintended consequences. Once governments play the game with carbon credits, you can expect a lot more of this.

Look at all the timber in your house! Where do you think that came from??

We live in a world where money don't talk it screams regardless of the consequences. While we keep destroying the natural world eventually we destroy ourselves they say money is the root of all evil here's another shining example.

Funny how even this film manages to provide film of a lot of intact forest. On balance there is much more intact forest than removed forest. Only the sleepy eyed would blow it up in their minds into believing that a lot more has been removed than is truly the case. But then again, recent years have proven how easily hypnotised/catastrophised people really are. Catastrophising is what people with personality disorders like OCD and GAD demonstrate and there sure is a lot of catastrophising these days. I live up this way, and you can't con me. Aside from farmland up on the plateau and down on the lowlands, there is intact forest in every direction that you bleeding well look! And there is no shortage of national parks around here. Why the hell do you think it looks so beautiful up here...there is plenty of forest, north, south, east and west, and it is not disappearing! As for koalas. They wanted to cull them on Kangaroo Island in 2019, then the fires did that job for them. Within a week, koala charities began springing up, 'save the koala', they demanded! After there was talk of culling them! What a joke, you are all being conned. No evidence of starving/dying koalas to be seen in this film just anecdotal 'evidence'. No film produced of stressed koalas! In this day and age of cameras in everyone's back pocket and they can't film it? Pull the other one. "there's no trees", says the old greenie. In the meantime, in the back ground there is forest everywhere...for those 5 koalas to retreat to! "John found a single koala gazing back at the destruction"...then they proceed to show an image of a koala happily up a tree, surrounded by a forest full of trees! They can't even produce an image that matches the narrative.

@ironmaiden12369

Ай бұрын

Mate you are probably one of those blokes at the pub who no one wants to share their jozza with

Where are the First Nations peoples in all this? Aren't they the supposed traditional owners of this land? I find it ironic since there's no money to be made here that our very vocal First Nations activists are completely silent

This is called a “perverse incentive”

This is just disgusting what they allow themselves to do without public intervention or acknowledgement.

If we were to put a price on trees, we could look at the cost of renting the amount of land x by the time it takes to grow them. But when you consider what they provide and the animals that rely on them, if trees are removed, there is no alternative solution to provide what they do. Therefore they should not be able to be priced or sold. It’s selfish, unnatural and evil behaviour to understand the importance of healthy ecosystems but to persist with exploitation regardless. One of the greatest of shameful acts.

This is crazy to allow the logging and destruction of native forests. All native forests need legislative protection now.😢

"Greed is NOT good..." Gordon Gecko... 1980 sumthin sumthin... ?

Unsurprising, but depressing AF.

This makes no sense. There’s degraded land that can be planted. Why would you clear fell other than the grift.

It’s ironic that carbon is plant food .

Clearing out brumbies in one forest and koalas in another. Wind "farms" off the east coast and elsewhere to disturb life in the ocean, too. Where's Peter Garrett, etc... I suppose it's awkward when both State and Federal governments are Labor.

Saddens me to say more land has been cleared in Queensland. This needs to stop !!!!!

No excuse, get these people out of these greedy inhumane positions. Love the forests and our beautiful Koala’s ❤❤❤❤

In NSW, clearfall harvesting only occurs at the end of a rotation in plantations. I find it hypocritical that those, who are seeking to end sustainable native forest harvesting in NSW by falsely suggesting that the hardwood products enjoyed by Australian today can be immediately sourced from a “transition to plantations”, are the very same people now trying to stop plantation harvesting in Pine Creek and Tuckers Knob State Forests. The Great Koala National Park assessment area contains over 16,000 hectares of plantations, which is more than half of the State’s hardwood plantations. ENGO’s and local neighbours like those filmed are calling on the Government to include these plantations in the GKNP, as even koalas can’t tell the difference between a 40-year-old plantation and a native forest. Within the GKNP assessment area, only 12% of the public forests are available for selective harvesting under strict environmental conditions, with the other 88% of the public estate already managed purely for conservation.

@wingnut6472

Ай бұрын

1 acre of industrial hemp takes 3 months to grow and has 100's if not 1000's more applications,and the forestry industry is heavily subsidised and runs at a massive loss to taxpayers and our wildlife,shut up.

This is just outrageous 😮😢

Tree's and plants are more important to the environment than solar panels or wind turbines

This is disgusting. Shame on them all.

Thank you

Australian pride. The greatest loss of biodiversity and extinction of species in the world. Be proud of the fact that we achieved this deplorable status in less than 236 years. Both major parties are responsible for the ultimate degradation, pollution and eventual destruction of our priceless forests, waterways and ocean. If you don't care, then you are contributing to the consequences of disrespecting the only home we have. The Earth is angry and we ain't seen nothing yet...

Save the Red Belly Black Snake! Oh wait a minute, they are not so cute and cuddly.

Carbon offset garbage For crying out loud get off this climate merry go round

Using the Premier's logic, no trees and no animals will be left in NSW, but there will be a big pile of $ ... so everything will be OK, apparently!

Native forest logging is ecocide... this country urgently needs Earth jurisprudence laws!

Who is the Government in charge.

Didn't the mid north coast burn to the ground six, seven years ago? There has to be some intervention with clearing..otherwise it comes to a point were wild fires come through and destroy everything..without mitigation you'll be left with destruction..

@rjbiker66

Ай бұрын

Good question. Does it look like it burnt to the ground?

Classic. ❤

So sad to watch this 😢

Ok as an ecologist, that is the worst choice in first 60s of footage. Way overstocked eucalyptus (eucalyptus naturally don't mature any closer than 7m between trunks), to the point you can HEAR THE BELL BIRDS. I'll finish the rest of the show now.

@Uenaeons

Ай бұрын

Yeah, so you can't claim carbon credits for anything that's already established. You have to have a bare paddock to do a carbon credit planting, with limited species allowed. The government is paying $2k per ha for the establishment of new timber lots. Right now. We are bush regenerators tapping into this for sake of reforesting degraded paddocks. Anyway, less about carbon credits and more about ecology. Every shot of in-tact vegetation in this video is of REGROWTH forest. As the initial dense rainforests of the east cost, and this area in particular near coffs- the southern most extent of The Big Scrub -were cleared, what has regrown is the eucalyptus due to their copious seeding techniques. So eucalyptus evolved around 50mya in response to Australia drying out as the continent drifts north. This has made natural fires from lightning strikes far more impactful, effectively clearing hundred million year old "Gondwanan era rainforests", and allowing eucalyptus to colonize. These first waves onto the east coast would have produced the results found in old growth forests today. The eucalyptus stands in and around Nightcap and their presence in the surrounding forest. In the surrounding forest, the eucalyptus are very restricted with only a handful of species being found, along with a few other offshoots from the eucalyptus tree; corymbias, lophostemon and syncarpia. Alongside these eucalyptus like trees are other myrtaceae (evolved ~58mya), slowly speciating into the different genuses we identify today. So alongside these eucalyptus, we have another myrtaceae descendent genus, Syzygium. Syzygium, comparatively is likely the myrtaceae line that first evolved into rainforest trees, and quickly found a niche within the Gondwanan rainforests. The point here, is that eucalyptus were NOT the ones to evolve by finding niches in synchrony with the rainforest... No, they needed fire, loss of genetic material and the loss of life to penetrate the rainforest, and only from here would the rainforest eucalyptus begin evolving. So, back to the video. Notice the density of eucalyptus stems in the wide shots? Regrowth. Humans come in, cut everything down, and what's come back? Oh the tree that has its genetic history in dry full sun conditions post fire. Maybe the tree that sets 2 million+ seed every year on a juvenile tree. Maybe the tree that has evolved specifically to grow so quickly it can outpace other established vegetation after a fire? And that's what you see. Larger eucalyptus in the area would have been younger ones that were left, and now aging 250+ years, but they would be few and far between, maybe 30m at the closest. Notice the bell minors? The high pitched "Bing Bing" sounds? Not good. They're a natural symbiont of eucalyptus dominated forest, where the presence and density of bell minors is indicative of how (un)healthy the forest is, and if the eucalyptus density is in balance or not. Eucalyptus are firebombs with very little usability for most animals outside of koalas, a handful of birds, and probably like some species of bees and ants. Sure I'm all for protecting all our animals, plants and forest, but to blindly advocate for unhealthy balances in nature, is to simply be naive. Not to mention, You want eucs for koalas? Well, just know that eucalyptus is the most appealing timber for anyone who makes money from cutting down trees... So... Unless you're ready to kill for your koala, know, they are probably ok with killing for their money. 😳 It's one thing to chain yourself to a tree, and another thing entirely to firebomb a few hundred thousands worth of machinery. Heck, guess it's not much different to having a firebomb in our back yard which will only ever get drier and more explosive as years go by, no matter how much rain falls. But all well. :) Enjoy.

Follow the money.

Forestry have turned our forests into a dangerous overgrown mess, and are largely responsible for why black summer was so bad.

@zappy7393

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As a volunteer firefighter, I can tell you that it was actually a massive cut to spending on the Forestry and the Fire Service that increased the risk and impact of damage during the black summer fires...and the ones that followed. 1 ranger per national park is not enough monitoring, not to speak about actual maintenance.

What a disgrace how could ya do such a thing makes my blood boil. Dodgy Governments ruining everything 👊

I expect that, if you take the time to consider, you'd agree that it is time to upgrade from our existing governance system - one day of heavily-constrained (option A or option B for which Party will be the lawmakers), badly disinformed (voter choice based on election campaigns, which we know are bullshit) "democracy" every 3 or 4 years) - to a genuinely democratic governance system, where strategic and long-term decisions are made by a group of truly representative citizens, who have been selected by lottery, stratified to ensure accurate representation, comprehensively briefed by experts in the field/s, including by those experts selected by the citizen groups, and who have then deliberated to identify and select the best decision/s. This has been gaining a track record of successes around the world over the last 15 years or so. It is likely to be fastest to implement democracy by using the existing electoral system in order to elect "candidates" who run on a platform of running Citizens' Assemblies. We would all be able to waste much less of our time trying to mitigate or reverse the constant stream of bad governance decisions, made by Party politicians informed by lobby groups and other special direct and indirect interests, whose only objective is not to lose the next election, rather than any "public good" consideration.

vital thankyou

Oh No NO NO… THIS IS DISGUSTING….. WHAT IS GOING ON?? 😢😢😢

Love the crap KZread put above the comments, just to show how impartial it is.

Rich people have to make more money. Little people don't matter

There is no need to ever steal from the forest!, Grow more hemp for produce…… Solution and have some heart 💜 for once in your life!

How much carbon they use to clear old trees. You need to plant trees where there is no trees. Freaks

Yeah, well you can't sheet all of this home to Minns, these issues festered under the Berejiklian government and won't be fixed overnight. But we all need to be vigilant and make sure this _is_ an election issue and remains on the agenda until there is a comprehensive fix. The political duopoly in this country thrives on voter apathy.

jUST STOP THE BLOODY LOGGING !

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What labour is doing to australia is chriminal

So they can make us pay for their shit. And we even voted them in! We need to vote smarter Aussies.

What’s the obsession in Australia with putting made up Indigenous names on every place, as if they have any real autonomy there. Whenever I hear or see this preface I cringe, there is no Gunnaygirrrr or whatever country.

So sickening can’t listen to there lies anymore unlike unlike unlike

SHAME Penny Sharpe Chris Minns!!!

Watch frendly jordies

Gummy bear country, you lost me right there. Where the hell is gummy bear country! What is being done to the environment in the name of saving the environment is ludicrous, not green.

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Intresting but very one sided and not enough info was given. Yes we need trees to help with climate change but it’s a renewable source needed to offset things like concrete. If there is a plantation of timber that can mean it was planted to be harvested in say 50 years so natural Forrest dosnt need to be harvested

Solar panels on good grazing country ‼️... wind farms on whale migration parths ‼️ is this really environmentally sound ‼️🤦 OMG

any one up for bbq platpus