Agree with you about the range going to "LOW". I have a Bolt EUV and I hate that.

I have to say the car really looks nice in black. I think it is the best looking EV out today

The weather has been great for EV ranges. I'd love to see how the Ioniq 6 SE models with the 18 inch wheels do in this weather.

@letsgobrandon5800

11 ай бұрын

It’s hot in Joisey. He was running AC.

The EV competition heats up, great to see and looking forward to more upcoming models being tested.

Just received my Lyriq a few days ago and I love it!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

Congratulations!

@FoamCrusher

11 ай бұрын

How long were you on the waiting list? Is it a 2023 Debut Edition? My 2023 DE order was rolled over to a 2024 Lux 2 AWD and have been waiting 13 months. Still the dealer has no idea when my car will arrive 😡. While others have dropped off the list, I’m going to wait since all reviews I have read say it is worth the wait.

@jakehager1041

3 ай бұрын

Lyriqs are great

@WadjasayCannatearya

2 ай бұрын

@@FoamCrusher I ordered my 2024 Sport 3 AWD Lyriq at the end of November 2022. It is now mid April 2024 and I got a call from the dealer yesterday that my vehicle has FINALLY been invoiced by the factory. They say that means it will be about 2-3 weeks until they have it. It was on a parts hold since December 2023. I can't wait. There is a 60A 240V circuit in the garage from when I had a MIG welder there, so its spot is waiting...

@FoamCrusher

2 ай бұрын

@@WadjasayCannatearya Congratulations! I finally gave up and found a Jan 19, 2024 built Lux 3 AWD with 20” wheels (factory deletion with $1000 credit) at a dealer 80 miles away. And it was not packed with every factory option the dealer could order which was common on the other Lux 3’s I saw. What finally push me to buy it, was that was delivered a day before my COSTCO $1000 credit was due to expire on March 1. I found out later that the car I ordered was delivered to the dealer about March 18 on a Dec 31, 2023 build from my original May 25, 2022 ordered DE. With all of the credits (GM Ultium Promise, GM Private Offer, wheel size deletion and COSTCO) it was only a little more expensive than the Lux 2 that I had originally ordered and had more features. I only had to compromise on the interior color. Now I just have to see if I can keep the almost white seats clean. Was it worth the wait? Absolutely. Would I choose to go through that GM information blackout and secrecy again? Absolutely not. You will really enjoy the car. Head turning style, quiet luxury with plenty of power. There is nothing on the market even close to its MSRP that can match it.

This tracks well with our experience. My dad got a RWD Lyriq and routinely gets a 330-350 mile range estimate. We are in CA and in ideal climate conditions. And he drives more city than hwy. Having said that, the Lyriq seems to be more conservative than my Bolt (I've had 2 - 2017 and 2020). Bolt is usually spot on its EPA for me. The Lyriq has never been below for us. Friends' Teslas are always lower than EPA in my area.

@letsgobrandon5800

11 ай бұрын

My Bolt was spot on as well on EPA range. Much better than my Tesla, which way overestimated range.

@anydaynow01

11 ай бұрын

Same with my gen 2 Volt, it will vary a bit depending if I have been doing more city or highway driving though. It's nice to have the backup generator even though I almost never use it.

@gaviriajj

11 ай бұрын

The correct metric is not RANGE, it's Watt hours per mile. Just like on ICE cars the correct metric is MPG, not how far you can drive on one tank. Geez the ignorance here.

@dansanger5340

11 ай бұрын

@@gaviriajj No, it's nothing like ICE cars. The difference is the charging infrastructure, which is not yet ubiquitous like gas stations. On an ICE vehicle, you know you're always within a short distance of a gas station, so you have the luxury to care more about MPG. With an EV, you care more about making it to the next charging station, which might be 50 or 100 miles away. So, until they build out the charging infrastructure, range is what you care about on an EV road trip.

@chefcooksfantasy9721

10 ай бұрын

how's this car in the winter during all the snow and storms

I love my @Cadillac Lyriq. Especially using my Grizzle Charger! Thanks Tom!

Great review. Was waiting for this for long time. Got 2k Miles in 4 weeks on my Lyriq. Did 1300 mile road trip 8k feet elevation climb twice temp from 80 to 110 4 passengers full loaded trunk mostly hwy driving around 75mph averaged 2.7 miles per kw.

@kenhiett5266

11 ай бұрын

Is yours the 2wd version as well?

@8bajwa8

11 ай бұрын

@@kenhiett5266 yes same specs as one Tom tested but black interior.

I’ve had my Debut Edition since September. I have over 12,000 miles, and the vehicle has been a dream. The Super Cruise, and the vehicle, sets a new standard!

@05gauravs

10 ай бұрын

Hi, Have you ever tried Tesla's FSD? I am looking for honest comparison if you ever had an opportunity to try the FSD. Thanks.

Been looking forward to a review of this car for a long time

Pretty darned good. Anything over 3m/kWh on the freeway is a solid result, especially for a tall car.

Tom- I appreciate all the time and effort that you put into these tests, plus the editing!

This bodes well for the upcoming Blazer EV and related Hondas

Great video. I have a Lyriq on order and when it comes in next decade I will have this great information. I appreciate all your videos. I am also in the works for establishing Ev charging stations in our condo community to owner’s individual deeded parking spaces, so I would appreciate any videos regarding the challenges with tapping directly off our individual power meters providing 100 amp service to each condo.

@monono954

11 ай бұрын

Tom, all GM vehicles subtract regenerated energy from the consumed energy. If you pay close attention to the energy used you'll see the amount used will reduce while regenerating.

Thanks for the test. We have one on order and this helps solidify our confidence in the choice.

Great video. My 2023 bolt is a little frustrating with the “low” on the dashboard. You are right about the app though, I can see the miles and percentage left with the “my chevrolet app.” I did a range test at 55 mph in it to see… lol also, I just started a KZread channel and tried to add several short videos of the range test…. I’m new and not sure how to blend my videos. I’m working on that though….. thanks again

We had a reservation for the Lyriq over a year ago and waited until last week to give it up. We were not getting any info on when we could make our production order and my better half was really getting feed up waiting for her car. Watching this video makes me wish I had kept that reservation, we ended up with the Q8 E-tron which was way more, in price and range. Still a nice car, but if the Lyriq checks off this box of range and can charge like a beast if you are still waiting don't second guess your self like I did. I saw some pictures of the 24 AMD and the updated the door handles to be normal not buttons and I heard the charge port now opens smooth. Again, great video Tom and looking forward to the charging curve, I expect that to be really good. GM has hit it out of the park if they can pass these two tests, they just need to deliver vehicles. The wait was killing us.

@pilozm

11 ай бұрын

Sad that Cadillac is treating many new-to-Cadillac customers like that.

@phillyphil1513

11 ай бұрын

re: "We had a reservation for the Lyriq over a year ago and waited until last week to give it up." well that'll learn ya. re: "Watching this video makes me wish I had kept that reservation" see...? see...? while both are technically SUV's of sorts don't confuse the Lyriq with the Cybertruck.

@jeffwestover1086

Ай бұрын

Don’t be sorry theLinuxdude you got a FAR better car with an Audi than a crapillac. You have precision German engineering, unlike GM that slow rolled out a car “to find out all the mistakes.” You don’t want a car that had to find out the mistakes while you are driving it. It is why the entire first years run were recalled and placed as show pieces in the showrooms, can’t be test driven, can’t be turned on. You want a car that was designed, tested, and built once they ironed all, the kinks out. If Biden had not bailed out this company with trillions of yours and my tax dollars then it would be beside Pontiac and Oldsmobile.

Good looking car Tom. It’s stunning. Glad to see you on the Joisey Turnpike.

Me and my wife just received ours last week. We love them!!

Nice job, Tom!

Nice review as usual Tom!

Really great job on this video Tom. Lots of great information. The theory about why the pack has more than the stated usable energy is interesting. Sounds reasonable. This vehicle definitely has an excellent powertrain.

@michaels3003

11 ай бұрын

The exact capacity will vary a little from one pack to another. In this particular test, the conditions were perfect.

As a spark EV owner, YES, tho it's a rare GM EV, it too can not be taken to zero comfortably. It's also hard to push.

Excellent explanation ., keep up the good work.

Nice job Tom! Can’t wait your range test with the new Fisker Ocean One ;)

Actually on my 2020 Bolt ev and now 2022 Bolt EUV I noticed in used energy when you regen it rolls back the numbers.

Thanks Tom, I'm smarter now about my Lyriq because of you, THNK YOU!!

Great reviuw as always! So.... I have seen Yt channels claiming that "GM is going out of business soon" and some real "interesting" comments about the CEO... Anyway, this EV is badass, well done GM

Thank you!

Impressive. Great information

Great video Tom

Splendid video. Learning about EVs now. Love your channel. I just subscribed.

That rearview mirror certainly vibrates. Wow!

I have been in some gas cars that also report "low" when the tank is close to dry. I think some engineer/manager/or lawyer selected this to basically tell the driver, fill up now, we do not assure anything from this point on.

Great video, Tom. I'm keeping the Lyriq pretty high on my list of vehicles to consider next, especially if they flip the CCS port over to the front right before making the switch to NACS. Until then, that car will be a terrible neighbor at Tesla superchargers.

My Son bought one.... So I will see and drive it next month, can't wait. I'd definitely be in the market for a used Lyric in a few years.

We just returned from Tampa to Charlotte in our Lyriq (vid in chan) and as a road trip vehicle, it is the best I have ever owned. I agree the battery percent needs a number. We also own a Volvo XC40 recharge and they were missing range in miles when it first came out, but added it via an OTA update later. I am assuming GM will too as the Ultium cars get owner feedback. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching, as always.

@Nebula1701

11 ай бұрын

GM has never had % next to their battery range all the way back to the Volt days... just little tick marks at the 75 50 25 spots.

@housemixprp21

5 ай бұрын

My Lyriq has a number and %.

I have a 2021 Tesla Model Y long range. I’ve found that holding a steady speed is the best way to get the maximum range. That said, I fully agree with your comments regarding exceeding 75 miles per hour and its affect on efficiency.

Great video! I test drove a 2024 AWD Lyriq yesterday and was very impressed with the power and overall comfort. I presently own a 2022 Audi e-tron, when comparing the two, I find the Lyriq has more road noise but is far more comfortable, and has better range. I have dual charge ports and would like to see dual ports on the Lyriq or, preferably, have a standard front location on all vehicles so that the EVSE location won’t matter in a garage or charge location. As of today, my next vehicle will be the Lyriq.

Good video. And thanks for the comment at about 19:50 to slow down to increase range. In reality if people followed the speed limit and stayed in the right lane pacing the traffic there would be less close calls, accidents, and road rage overall..

Ford EVs give you the same information about where your power went; trip, HVAC, external temps, etc.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, a few other EVs do also. I wish all EV did, though.

Enjoyed the Vid and I will addGM does not give you a number on range for their gas engines. I have a Cadillac SRX 2013 and when I reach 40 miles, it then gives you a LOW reading so you have to remember to find a gas station. When I first bought the SUV, I ran out of gas because I wasn't paying attention. LOL I really like the Lyriq and watching the reviews. I agree with you, it should be at least on option in settings on a Bar or actual number of miles left to empty or recharge. Thanks again for the great info! 🙂

Hi Tom -- thank you for this. I have Qmerit coming to install my L2 charger on Wednesday. I just picked up my 2024 LUX 1 RWD on Monday and am going through the learning curve on my first EV. Is there an online database where owners can log and share trip information? The idea would be to crowdsource information like you provide. My first trip was 90 highway miles (each way) at 76 mph with the AC on -- 2.4 mi/kwhr on the way there and 2.5 on the way home. I will be doing more highway driving at slower speeds to get more data.

Another good video Tom. I’ll have to have you test my Fisker Ocean 🌊 Extreme once I get, if one of my #FiskerFamily doesn’t hit you up first.😎 Love your videos!

Can't wait to see the AWD Lyriq results

First time I have seen your channel. Great review. Clear and concise. Thanks

Hey TOM! Another great video! I’m so glad you were very happy with the lyric. I know they haven’t sold very many yet but it’s really good to know that there are good EV options finally coming out. Before your next range test, look up and try foundation training for your back. I like the original 12 minute version. Very helpful. You can also do a quick session while you recharge. It really helps my back before and after trips.

@megaroeny

11 ай бұрын

What's the foundation back training?

@gaviriajj

11 ай бұрын

Good EV options? Wow, just wow.

Great review! Beautiful styling and Cadillac comfort. Great range. I’m going to assume the lane hogging lane assist was not intended.

Great video Tom, thanks for making us smarter. I own a 2023 Lyriq and I took it from NY to DC, around 250 miles trip in about 25-28 degrees cold weather. My intimal estimates (so did the car) was to stop once to re-charge but the battery was discharging a lot faster rate than expected which made me stop twice for recharging. I attribute that to the cold weather, would you agree? Thanks!

Tom, there was a lot of movement on the rearview mirror. Was that bc of the road, the weight of your camera setup, or normal & I just don't notice that type of movement on my own rearview mirror bc I'm never really paying attention to it?

Immensely impressive. GM really worked hard on the Ultium architecture. I just hope they can scale up and start deliveries to customers.

@ultrastoat3298

11 ай бұрын

Ultium architecture is doomed. They have to use way more storage than their peers to do the same work. Therefore, they can never be price competitive.

@mxs8102

11 ай бұрын

@@ultrastoat3298it’s funny a how many people don’t realize the catch with large batteries. When GM makes thirsty gas car, it’s only on consumer paying more for gas, it doesn’t really cost more to put a bigger tank in. But with BEV it cuts both ways, the larger the battery the more it costs to make, so they either charge very high price, or lose money on all cars. Not a good position to be in, that is for sure.

@G-Rated

11 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ultrastoat3298You sound like an complete idiot that’s scared. Neither you nor mxs8102 has proof that *gm* is losing money and their EVs aren’t profitable. Y’all are literally talking straight out of your asses.

@G-Rated

11 ай бұрын

@@ultrastoat3298also to say a highly price competitive vehicle like the Cadillac Lyriq can’t be price competitive although it already is, it’s so asinine and a testament to your lack of brain power. 🤡 *gm* is laughing.

@NextGenEvs

9 ай бұрын

Are you kidding? A Tesla Model Y could go just as far with a 30% smaller battery!

Great info. I'm interested in a comparison of the Lyric to it's cousin the Chevy Blazer EV.

Scariest part of these videos is Tom with a depleted battery, pulling into a non-Tesla charging station. My experience has been that charging at Electrify America or EVGo or other non-Tesla station is hit or miss. And with a depleted battery, you don't want to miss. I wouldn't look at a non-Tesla EV until Tesla's charging infrastructure is available. The others are just not as reliable. Great Video Tom!!!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

Hey Prof, I hope all is well. So, I get that the reliability isn't 100%, but I will say this. You know I've been driving EVs for 14 years now, and using DC fast chargers for nearly that long. Only 1 time was I not able to charge when I arrived at a DC fast charge station in the many, many times I have used them. Yes, often I needed to call customer service to assist me in getting it to work, and other times I needed to try multiple plugs to find one working, and other times the station didn't deliver as much power as it was supposed to, but I always left charged, even if it wasn't a great, seamless experience.

Incredibly well done and informative review. Thank you!

I like this Caddy I’ll have to put this on my to consider when I buy my first EV , this one is nice .

My favorite is the Bolt on a 350kw charger 🔌. That is monster range!

@williamerazo3921

Ай бұрын

Lol

I'm getting a lyric next week. What wind app are you using to know the wind direction?

Another Great video Tom. Keep up the great work.

Thanks Tom. 1% climate, do you know if it has a HP heater? It looks like the HP air is very efficient after 5 hours.

@bahamatodd

11 ай бұрын

Yes it has a heat pump

I'd like to see what the AWD 600 4e does in this test before I commit. It's between a new AWD version of this or a used Model X, but the hwy range capability is a priority for my needs. I have my doubts that the significantly more powerful AWD can come close, but if it does, GM will earn my money.

I am not a GM fan, since they scuttled my SAAB brand, and stranded me. However, it is nice to see GM under promising, and over delivering. Kudos to them. I have owned 8 Caddy’s. I used to buy them from Scott Motors in Reno, from AJ Reck, the salesman with a name you can never forget. But, they lost me forever as a customer in 2008. My 4 Audi’s have measured up quite well since then. (eTron is the newest)

I would like to see you Test Drive the AWD Lyriq & compare it against the Rear Wheel Drive to the see the difference in the range, the average motorist does not drive 300 miles a day, so the Lyriq is a great vehicle for the price👍🏾👍🏾

@G-Rated

11 ай бұрын

300+ miles of range with AWD in a vehicle as spacious and luxurious as this is perfect for middle-high class American families. This vehicle would sell well even at $10k-15k above it’s peak price because of it’s practicality. The engineering speaks for itself when you drive it but the _Lyriq’s_ design is the icing on the cake for me!

Tom, great video as always! That is great range, at this rate, GM should advertise it as 375 mile range (12% above its actual range) just like all other EVs. But at the end of the day, it is still 100+Kwh, imagine if the model Y had 100kwh pack, it would get 400+miles of range.

@rogerstarkey5390

11 ай бұрын

Shhhhh! 😉

@8bajwa8

11 ай бұрын

Why would you compare Lyriq to Y. Two totally different cars. Before you say somthing just compare tire size of both vehicles. Imagine if Y have same tire size will not even touch 200 miles.

@texanmonke

10 ай бұрын

​@@8bajwa8huh? So if tesla put 20" wheels that are more narrow like the lyriq the range would plummet nearly 80 miles ? I'm pretty sure you're making things up

@8bajwa8

10 ай бұрын

@@texanmonke typical tesla fan boy. Go look at tire size and come back and admit tesla fans have tunnel vision.

My bZ4X doesn't have a numeric state of charge either! Drives me crazy! I guess the updates in other countries rectified that issue. No update in the US.

Tom, the Tesla model 3 does NOT have 102 kwh battery pack. Put a 102 kwh pack in a Tesla 3 and it would blow the range test. Also, I thought you had a Dual motor model 3. Great job for GM.

I would love one. But I’m not waiting on a list for five years. Gm really messed up on getting there vehicles out fast. The wait times are insane. I cancelled my Silverado Ev and got a polestar 3 coming March 2024. Can’t wait

@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck

11 ай бұрын

GM has not built an EV factory. They announced 3+ BATTERY factories - good. But trying to make an EV in a disused Saturn building ain't workin' out.

Ioniq 5 gives you all the consumption info but navigating the screens could be more intuitive.

cadillac nailed it

Great review - impressive results.

@gaviriajj

11 ай бұрын

Not impressive. 3.1miles per kWh is NOT impressive. That's very high consumption for a non commercial vehicle, it is currently consuming 322 watt hours per mile, Amazing would be closer to 200 wh/mile.

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My BMW i4 e40 gets 3.0 mi/kWh on the highway when the temperature is below 10 degrees F. On nice summer days it gets 3.8 to 4.0. The Lyriq is inefficient but saved by the humongous battery.

The passenger seat looks like he’s sitting beside Beymax from Big Hero 6!

@adofoi30

11 ай бұрын

I never saw that …. But now I Can’t unsee it!

@ScrapKing73

11 ай бұрын

@@adofoi30 I had the same experience!!

Nice to see an Ultium vehicle deliver the range. Not that many looks so far. Nice to see it. >EPA!! One question. About 4 times I heard sounds like suspension / rattle noises, presumably when you went over road imperfections. Surprised me that a Cadilac would be anything more than silent on the highway. Maybe an OBD-II based monitor would be worth it for state of charge data when running a GM vehicle range test since they don’t show percent or estimate of final miles left. Thanks again!!

@phillyphil1513

11 ай бұрын

re: "About 4 times I heard sounds like suspension / rattle noises, presumably when you went over road imperfections. Surprised me that a Cadilac would be anything more than silent on the highway." easy fix Dave, you're just going to have to "come off the dime" for a ROLLS ROYCE SPECTRE (admittedly i'm dying to take one for a spin, so let me drive it for a day once you take delivery).🤙

@rogerstarkey5390

11 ай бұрын

330 with a 102 kWh pack isn't "Amazing".... Not really. "Adequate" is closer to the mark.

When the lucid get 5 mpkWh is 3.1 something to get excited about?

Tom, your highway mileage tests are the gold standard of believability. EPA estimates, not so much.

@michaels3003

11 ай бұрын

I thought he clearly explained, EPA does not provide 70 mph range. Btw., the EPA tests are not performed on roads and AFAIK they are performed by the automotive manufacturers.

How were the winds on this trip. Headwind vs tailwind makes a pretty big coffeemaker from what i see on my model 3 and model Y

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

I talk about it frequently in the video. Practically nonexistent.

I moved to Fairfield, CT at the end of last year. If you're ever in the area I'd love to chat EVs or if you're doing any EV events I'd glady drive to NJ. I have a Model 3 LR (2022 year).

Do you have a real range of the all wheel drive. I have heard the range is closer to 260 miles. But would really appreciate your take on awd highway milage. If it is similar to rear wheel drive, I may consider. But really need the most range possible. No public chargers around me. So just home charging.

Thank you, great vehicle, great test results.👍🏾👍🏾

@gaviriajj

11 ай бұрын

Not impressive. 3.1miles per kWh is NOT impressive. That's very high consumption for a non commercial vehicle, it is currently consuming 322 watt hours per mile, Amazing would be closer to 200 wh/mile.

Tom-What size wheels were on your test Lyriq 20s or 22s? What do you think the range reduction is for the 22s?

Eagerly awaiting the charging video. I'd like to see if GM had improved the ultimum charging since the hummer.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

That's going to take me a bit. The DC fast charging videos require a LOT of editing. Maybe 10 to 14 days from now...

@benwinslow3101

11 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney that's fine....I won't be able to buy an equinox before then so I can wait, lol

Just bought a 2024 Lyric for my Rideshare / livery Business

Can these batteries on the lyriq be charged at 100% unlike tesla model Y where they recommend 80% for battery health and only charge to 100 % on long trips?

Good stuff

Within similar windows of range, range figures between cars doesn’t matter on long trips with multiple charging stops. If charging from 10% to 80%, charging speeds and efficiency are also very important factors.

Nice video (as usual). I don’t think pulling every last mile out of the battery is really a reasonable bench mark test but does (Perhaps) give someone ultimate range in an emergency situation (no charging stations nearby or charging station not working). I think it might be more reasonable to drive at 70 mph until the battery is around 5% state of charge, then estimate the range based upon the average mi/kWH. That could possibly eliminate the lower mph trying to drain the battery to zero. Of course, actual range is going to depend upon active time events including traffic density and speed, wind speed and direction, and ambient temperatures. Would be interesting to know how towing impacts the range and efficiency. The only reason for concern of range is the longer time to charge and EV versus ICE and the lack of infrastructure in out of the way places (rural areas). Otherwise, their would be no reason to consider range testing. I don’t ever recall such a concern for ICE and diesel vehicles. Also, their has never been much concern about the accuracy of remaining fuel as for battery state. Are we becoming technology geeks? Looking forward to charging test info. For most people that is more of a concern than range. If the charging from 10% to 80% can be under 15 minutes, that starts to being an acceptable level. Get that down to less than 10 minutes and that might remove most people’s range anxiety. Thanks again.

@michaels3003

11 ай бұрын

Fast charging requires a well designed battery cooling system. The temperature increase should be reported in serious testing.

Make sure the auto match lane changes are turned on that way it will change lanes all by itself. Mine is fantastic.

Considering that f150 lightning can do 2.4-2.5 mi/kwh, i kinda expected Lyriq to be around 3.3-3.4mi/kwh. I'm guessing that an average use of 50-50 city - highway driving will find that efficiency. And possibly if the car only does city miles it might as well be able to get nearly 375mi of city range (not exceeding 45/50 mph).

Wonder why you didn't use evgo instead of EA. Free plug and charge and better charging curve at Ultium certified station.

Tom @stateofcharge ask the built in Google Assistant while driving what the vehicles state of charge is!!! I believe that works in the Hummer so here to.

Thank you! Very helpful. Now, if they would just sell me one.

22:06 I actually don't mind that the range estimate goes away below 5% battery. From a liability standpoint, you don't want to encourage people to push the last 5 to 10 miles only to have them come up short. Especially without being able to account for terrain. The bigger issue is that they don't include the SOC in actual percentages, so when the Range Estimator is unavailable, it leaves the driver without any other information. So I think a flashing "LOW" is fine, but they need to include the SOC % along with that.

@lanceareadbhar

11 ай бұрын

SOC is definitely needed with a buffer zone as well so that 0% displayed is not actually 0%. The miles are not nearly as important as the SOC.

@newscoulomb3705

11 ай бұрын

@@lanceareadbhar I think GM started including a small bottom buffer with their Ultium products. I haven't seen anyone drive one to completely empty yet, and most LYRIQ owners are reporting between 102 kWh and 104 kWh used at "LOW." Based on the double-stack Ultium pack being 212-213 kWh usable, this LYRIQ pack should be 106-106.5 kWh from full to completely dead.

@phillyphil1513

11 ай бұрын

re: "From a liability standpoint, you don't want to encourage people to push the last 5 to 10 miles only to have them come up short." don't worry Tommy Molo' knows, as you likely recall he was told this by myself (and possibly a few others) back nearly 2 years ago. as you recognize it is indeed GM's protection against all the SRI ("Stockton Rush Idiots") we've now got walking among us in society. yeah, something that NEVER crosses the mind of the layperson on the street (with no education and no work experience) is that the Engineers working at General Motors and all the other OEMS are in fact SMARTER than they are.

@rogerstarkey5390

11 ай бұрын

There's a point of view that below 5-10% is exactly when you DO want to know the percentage.

@newscoulomb3705

11 ай бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 I think everyone is in agreement that GM needs to include the actual, observed battery percentage, but battery percentage is not estimated range. GM's Range Estimator is predictive, but when the battery gets that low, any number of factors could add or cut actual miles from the predicted range. The messaging starting long before that point is, "Get to a charger ASAP." The driver should have already set navigation for a charging point that is within the predicted range long before the range estimate ever goes away. What Tom is asking for is a feature that literally only matters to and adds value for someone who is trying to complete exhaust the battery. The average consumer would never even think to ask for that feature, and where I would disagree with Tom here is that, GM's omission of the range estimate under 5% is actually proof that their engineers know quite a lot about driving EVs. They know exactly what the average EV owner would try to do with that knowledge if it was available (i.e., push the car to its absolute limits even when it's not advisable to do so).

Not that this helps, but on GM gas vehicles (Chevy Cruise), when you have around 45 miles left, it also show the range (of gas) as low without any miles left.

20:52 did you mean to say 328 miles when you pulled off the highway and stopped going 70 mph? 228 miles would be really bad. 328 miles is simply astounding.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

Yep 328

you should get one of those bluetooth ODB scanners so you can get details the car won't normally tell you, like SOC %

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

I have one, but I won't use them for my videos. I don't like the optics of it. We shouldn't need to buy electronics to understand what's going on with our cars. The manufacturers should give us the critical information we want/need. I will continue to advocate for that.

Very informative as always. Are you going to do a full review of the car, or do you just focus on range tests here?

Does the vehicle have an indicator to remind when a charging station is near (when under 20-25%)?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

Yes, you get multiple low battery warnings

Another great video. I know you just got a Bolt and I've got a question. GM expanded the mapped roads for Super Cruise for everything but the Bolt, says it's because it's an older architecture. Seems to me it's just an issue of uploading map date, so I call BS. Your take?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

That's entirely plausible. The Bolt uses GM’s Global B software architecture, the last generation.

@krkope8277

11 ай бұрын

Thanks. My interest was just dampened. I found a dealer about 90 minutes away from me who listed exactly the Bolt I want, not just at MSRP, but with a $2500 discount. Called them, and they're actually selling at 5K over. I'm no babe in the woods, but man, that's dispiriting.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

@krkope8277 Most dealers are marking up Bolts now and they are still sold out for months...

@krkope8277

11 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I appreciate that and it doesn't even exercise me that much. I just think we need to curb our enthusiasm about releases like Equinox/Blazer, which will have us going "hey remember the good old days when Bolts were going for only 5K over?" That's assuming they really start building Ultium.

Great job sir! I wonder, since you have a Lightning, would it be worth it for you to have someone meet you near the end of your range tests and ride behind you, so you can run vehicles like this all the way down or as close as possible, then if your car dies, you can charge off the relatively fresh Lightning. I dont know if it would be worth it or not, hopefully that wouldnt damage or degrade the battery any (if it does, never mind it all as it's not worth that) but maybe this would be worth doing, to go all the way.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

11 ай бұрын

There is also the issue of it potentially running out in an area that's dangerous. Some parts of the highway have a very narrow shoulder and with cars and trucks whizzing by at 75+ mph, it's not safe to plug in and charge for 30 minutes or so. I don't see value in it really. As long as I drive the vehicle down to 0% SOC and into the reduced power mode (I can feel when most EVs are about to give up) then the range test is complete in my books. :)

@rogerstarkey5390

11 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney It's not really good practice to run down to zero and possibly brick the battery...... Or to encourage ("suggest") that others might take it close to that mark......? It really serves no purpose when (if) you have a system updating you with precise range and charge locations?

@raemill4089

11 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I was not encouraging you to do anything unsafe to yourselves or the vehicle. Just wondering for cars like this if there was value in doing this safely if possible. Thanks.

That’s a fantastic range result. But be aware other publications are coming up with about 230 miles at 75 mph on the all wheel drive model which isn’t exactly fantastic. For most people maybe it would be smarter to buy the real wheel drive, since the acceleration doesn’t differ that much.

@prodigy311

11 ай бұрын

While the faster AWD will be more fun to whip around, the RWD is what I ordered since I want the range. Tom's video has me excited for my future Lyriq. It is expected to go into production this coming week!

@michaels3003

11 ай бұрын

This is really low, as the increased aerodynamic drag is only 15% higher at 75 mph.

@mattbrew11

11 ай бұрын

Other publics dubious outliers no doubt

@JakeRichardsong

10 ай бұрын

Prove it. What are the other publications? Sounds like nonsense losing 100 miles of range for 5 miles an hour more.

@cypvh74

10 ай бұрын

You should never really in real life let your car get to under 10 miles of range left, so “low” seems fine. At that point you better be close to a charger.