Thanks for stopping by the VA, your claim has been denied that toxic cough is clearly not service connected and has nothing to do with the jet fuel you breathed in while deployed. unironically hooah photos: instagram.com/cappyarmy/ uniornically hooah tweets twitter.com/Cappyarmy

@swanygaming6668

Жыл бұрын

Love ur work man

@leonidashanna4740

Жыл бұрын

You are awesome!😎🇨🇦

@jesse8600

Жыл бұрын

When I deployed with the 24 meu on the uss nassau, our jet fuel would leak into our drinking water somehow, for the entire deployment. Lol the water smelled and tasted, like fuel. Haha

@lawlkings

Жыл бұрын

U.S. Military: "Throw everything in the fire pit, it's okay. You'll be fine. Trust us." *Military members getting sick and coming down with permanent health impacts due to firepits. Making them fend for themselves* U.S. Military: "Why is no one joining the military?!?!"

@casbot71

Жыл бұрын

"I'm sorry, I couldn't hear that over my tinnitus"…

Depending on the theater between 60%-80% of deployed personnel are civilian contractors who are exempt from filing any health claims for burn pits. It would have to be done through the Base Defense Act and as of to date not a single claim has been approved. After the military "banned" burn pits they most certainly did not stop using them but moved the burn pit right off base so technically there was no burn pits on military bases but that lovely black smoke of burning batteries and every type of plastic item imaginable covered the base, and it was always fun when ammunition and explosives some how always found their way into a burn pit. I can recall 50+ times off ammunition cooking off or a massive explosion rocking the base, thought we were under attack and got hit by a car bomb and then come to find out a AT4 or something else that was left behind and not checked ended up in the burn pit.

@ghostpiratelechuck2259

Жыл бұрын

Do they hire American contractors or locals?

@carterskindle7086

Жыл бұрын

Yo your profile picture is my Xbox profile picture.

@harryh5620

Жыл бұрын

@@ghostpiratelechuck2259 uh... Well, I was a US contractor - so yes. Went to Iraq with perfectly normal blood pressure - came home with crazy high.

@nickf4333

Жыл бұрын

Hundreds if not thousands of American contractors killed during the War on Terror aren’t factored into casualty counts either

@ghostpiratelechuck2259

Жыл бұрын

@@harryh5620 I thought it was funny he said they discontinued the use of locals because of intel dissemination, not poisoning the local populace. Hearts and minds, no one ever said lungs lol

_The chemical WMD's were the ones we made upon the way._

@andresmartinezramos7513

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@bonbon7808

Жыл бұрын

Based comment

@prathyushareddy9404

Жыл бұрын

BASED

One of my friends served two tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he recalls how most of the other soldiers openly mocked him for wearing a mask when doing burn duty. He's also mentioned more recently how he was basically the only guy from his unit who doesn't have some recurring breathing problems.

@kilmer009

Жыл бұрын

This sums up how the planet is handling covid. The intelligent ones understand that the loud and stupid will eventually succumb to their own idiocy.

@Puddlef1sh

Жыл бұрын

Funny that masks work. I wear a mask doing any work with small airborne debris.

@Vulcano7965

Жыл бұрын

I was in a polish copper mine recently. In the active mining area the air isn't the best to put it mildly. Workers down there driving in their diesel vehicles were exposed to this dusty, hot environment until the pandemic hit. Mask were issued since then and they kept using them for, well, obvious reasons. I hope that this pandemic had at least the good side effect that people are more aware of good breathing air at their workplace and in general.

@TheBishop12

Жыл бұрын

@@Vulcano7965 for me I stopped using them once they were no longer mandated but I can say for sure I no longer stigmatize in my head, others who wear masks. Before, I assumed anyone wearing a mask was sick and should stay home/hospital not out wearing a mask. Definitely made me aware now that some people just simply have underlying health problems (not sick sick) and covid can be a death sentence so I give them more room to maneuver now.

@thetayz72

Жыл бұрын

I bet all the people who mocked your friend remember how stupid they were for doing that.

And now, the military is complaining that there is a lack of recruits!

"I love the smell of burn pits in the morning" *coughs chronically* 🤣😭

@jeff7.629

Жыл бұрын

Yup, chronic cough since 2006.

@executivelifehacks6747

Жыл бұрын

@@jeff7.629 It was really funny, like Cappy always is. After watching the video, it is gallows humor. That's nasty. I wonder who owns KBR.

@worldwanderer91

Жыл бұрын

@@executivelifehacks6747 Dick Cheney probably has some owner stocks with KBR

@ghosttankcommander5397

Жыл бұрын

XD LOLOLOLOLOL

It's depressing that for all the hundreds of billions spent on the military, more reasearch isn't being done to make safe incineration more viable in combat zones. You feel like the most important military goal should be the safety of the actual people serving whenever possible. Really eye opening stuff, thanks for the great video.

@jawadbilgrami4676

Жыл бұрын

The US Govt failed the people it went to ‘save’ and the service people it took to make that ‘goal’ happen. All round failure I’d say.

@commandervile394

Жыл бұрын

They don't care about their expendable pawns. Even now in places like Canada they are offering soldiers with severe PTSD assisted suicide via euthanasia as a "treatment", lmao.

@AxaFin

Жыл бұрын

Thats cuz everybody wants to skim money and get their profit

@combativeThinker

Жыл бұрын

The goal of these wars was to bleed the US of patriots and treasure.

@cybervand

Жыл бұрын

Its not even difficult to make an incinerator with filters, they exist in coal plants and recycling plants

once, long, long ago, in boy scouts during a controlled burn outing, i found a dead rat. my massive middle school brain gave me the idea to chuck it into the fire. about 5 minutes later everyone was trying to see how many dead animals they could find and add to the fire

@philiphockenbury6563

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like such a Boy Scout thing.

@deluxezesty

Жыл бұрын

Another time at a rifle range, we shot all of the target posts to pieces and pissed off the rangemaster

@globaladdict

Жыл бұрын

@@deluxezesty that sounds like a self starter attitude to me lol

@sharonrigs7999

Жыл бұрын

In North Korea, that would be considered wasting perfectly good meat.

A friend of mine was in Iraq, and exposed to those burn pits. They now have severe COPD, and are essentially disabled because of that. As good as the new legislation is, it is just a good start. Much more is needed, not just medical, but in supporting them so they can be self sufficient. You put your life on the line for a country, and the country damn well better take care of you if you are injured doing so.

@grayman2749

Жыл бұрын

They? So he's a troon or a man?

@sstff6771

Жыл бұрын

True

@hul8376

Жыл бұрын

I would think that just having more incenerators is expensive but it is more exepensive to fuck up your own soldiers for rest of theire life! Sad to hear US military has not focused on safety enough which will cost USA much more money in the long run.

@sstff6771

Жыл бұрын

@@hul8376 true

@angelamilton5134

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for his service but unfortunately 400 years of democracy and countless lives who fought for freedom is now under threat from within. I hope America emerges stronger than ever

this pretty much answers your previous video's question on why army recruitment numbers are down: not the burnpits but the fact they are just doing what's the cheapest and ignoring the rest

On the day my unit was leaving, we were stopped and asked to fill out a questionnaire concerning potential exposure to toxic materials from our burn pit. Those who wanted to fill out the questionnaire would have to remain in theater until the questionnaires were processed, those who did not fill out the questionnaire could leave immediately. Of course no one elected to stay.

@curtisthomas2670

Жыл бұрын

That was probably done so deliberately

@KnightsWithoutATable

Жыл бұрын

@@curtisthomas2670 And should be assumed not to be a 0% exposure, but instead a 100% exposure since the survey was used to obfuscate instead of collect information on exposure. Yes, for a cursory look, it will work, but in a court or a proper investigation, this is an admission of guilt since they tried to cover it up. Getting to that law suit or a proper investigation is the hard part.

@tarron3237

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that is next level underhanded

@seokmin3292

Жыл бұрын

Yeah US military hasn’t changed much since Vietnam

@fedupgamer9075

Жыл бұрын

@@seokmin3292 So true, I think they are just now coming to grips with the Agent Orange claims.

My uncle had lung complications from those pits. It caused him to have a major stroke. Wish he was here today.

It sounds like the solution is the DoD getting someone to develop a mobile incinerator. That way you can move the incinerators to wherever the troops are. I'm sure it'll be more expensive to operate than a larger incinerator, but it seems like it is likely worth the cost.

@GreenBlueWalkthrough

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree something that can move with the troops like the genrators and buildings/tents.

@robertcampbell6042

Жыл бұрын

Rather than mobile incinerators, make them easily relocatable. Installed semi-permanently at larger bases but movable with existing transport. Smaller bases have supply containers dropped off by convoys that also pick up returning containers with the waste inside. No extra trips/risks and empty containers provide safe storage.

@patrickconfer3592

Жыл бұрын

If I recall there was an incinerator built for LSA Anaconda but for some reason it never became operational.

@Jcod_

Жыл бұрын

@@robertcampbell6042 Either way the idea I think is the same. Figure out how to move the incinerators to the troops instead of trying to figure out how to move troops around the incinerators.

@into_the_void

Жыл бұрын

Skid / container based mobile incinerators are available that can be towed

When I got out in 2008, and did my VA stuff. I was asked if I was ever exposed to burn pits, after I said yes, I volunteered to be part of study group, but then I never heard anything about it.

@insertuniquenamehere396

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@deusvult6920

Жыл бұрын

Lmao they were still asking for volunteers for that went I got out in early 2011

@B.V.Luminous

Жыл бұрын

Saaaaame

@obsidianjane4413

Жыл бұрын

They only wanted people who answered no. See what they did there?

@SDLXVI

Жыл бұрын

The study concludes when you drop ☠️

It's terrible, each cloud of smoke is different, each pair of lungs has different vulnerabilities, allergies, and cancer susceptibility. There is no "one size fits all" medical treatment.

@DarkShroom

Жыл бұрын

well there kind of is... it's called don't burn plastic near soldiers, civilians or preferably at all... you morons

The Navy's solution is much simpler. Put the garbage in a bag, "weigh it down" so it sinks, chuck it over the side. Making sure the garbage has negative buoyancy is both the most critical step and the one most frequently skipped because it's a task given to the most junior person who cares the absolute least. Result? Trash dumps behind a US naval vessel leave miles long trails of garbage floating on the surface. Most of it eventually sinks. Anything hazardous is supposed to be stored until it can be disposed of correctly, but that's a pain so there's usually a token amount of stored hazmat and the rest is snuck into ordinary trash and goes over the side. But don't get too jealous army friends. We did have to stand at attention for hours in a fog of diesel and turbine exhaust every time we pulled into a port just in case someone took photos of the ship the crew would be standing there professionally at attention (and slightly green) for everyone to see.

@rick-be

Жыл бұрын

I was told by an Kiwi abalone diver,that the ocean can devour anything given some time.He cited a car where he dove and seeing it getting smaller every year.

@elcomandante9m

Жыл бұрын

I served in the USMC and have been aboard many Navy ships. When I was a boot PFC I was put on a work detail to throw all the ships garbage overboard. I couldn’t believe that we were actually littering the seas. Funny thing was how sharks would follow us to eat the garbage. Smh

@neogeo1670

Жыл бұрын

@@rick-be the worst thing is plastic and certain chemicals, plastic does not really break down it only cracks to smaller bits over time turning it to micro plastic that has bad effects on ocean life getting into fish and other seacreatures eventually getting eaten by us humans, we dont know what the long term effect is on us but i cant think its any good... most of the fish caught today from all over the world have been found micro plastics in them...

@HanSolo__

Жыл бұрын

@@jjb9256 Tanks that don't contain toxic substances are great places for coral reefs to settle and grow. EDIT: My bad I was thinking about dumping Main Battle Tanks not the tanks with crap. Tanks with shit are no problem.

@rick-be

Жыл бұрын

@@neogeo1670 I've seen those reports, apparently there are no bad effects...as yet.

A buddy was an "environmental contractor" in both Iraq and Afghanistan and he showed me a picture of a humvee in a burn pit. a whole fucken humvee

@calholli

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.. I seen a documentary called "Why we fight" --- that showed how, sometimes if they had a semi truck hauling a trailer of goods to a base -- if it got a flat tire, and there was no way to repair it: They would just burn the entire truck, right there on the side of the road, so that no one could come along and take it, and end up using it against the soldiers. So there were highways with tanks and humvees and semi trucks littered all along the side of the road, in some areas..... It somehow was easier to just order a new loaded truck, than it was to get a tire repaired out there. That comes from foolish leadership who don't have a clue about all the logistics problems that can come up.......... But who cares right, Biden just left a couple hundred thousand different rifles, hundreds of humvees, 33 black hawk helicopters, and a bunch of other stuff, when he pulled from Afganistan. Look that video up on this channel if you haven't seen it. It was very recent called: "US Army Weapons Smuggled Out of Afghanistan"

@calholli

Жыл бұрын

@Tin Watchman There were like 7 things that had to be met first -- and the Afgans had only accomplished one of those 7 things, being the cease fire. But there was a list of other things that were supposed to happen first, or we weren't going to pull out yet. None of those things were met, and biden just literally let it all fall apart and then pulled our people out last minute. The taliban were already working check points right outside the airport before we even had all of our troops out of there -- that's how quickly they took over. smh.. Look at biden, he can't even speak in clear sentences; there is no leadership and that's why it all fell apart and they just turned and ran away, and left all of our equipment over there too. Some of it was supposed to be left for the Afgan army, but most of it was not-- We would have never left them 33 BlackHawk Helicopters on purpose.

@lspeace6640

Жыл бұрын

@Tin Watchman yes

We had 21,000+ "detainees" at that place in Southern Iraq near the Kuwait border. That's a lot of issued "detainee" clothing, foam mattresses, shower shoes, prayer rugs, etc ...not to mention plastic dining wear, cups, and etc that were burned everyday.... most of the time "upwind" of where we ate and slept due to the onshore breeze off the Gulf. Not to mention all of our (there were about 4,500 of us) trash as well. If I close my eyes, I can still feel the burn and smell the stank. The memory almost makes my eyes water. KBR had incinerators.... they were bright, shiny and brand new..... never used.

@petehaack5228

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about the "sparkling lake" that was on the approach path into the helipads there. I was always terrified that we would have an engine failure at that exact moment and wind up going for a swim in that "lake." Swear to God, that's all I could think about every time we were on short final.

@BaritoneMonkey

Жыл бұрын

@@petehaack5228 .... What was the lake made of?...

@petehaack5228

Жыл бұрын

@@BaritoneMonkey It was all the the waste water from the showers and toilets from the camp, pumped out into a "lake" so to speak. It has been about 14 years, but if I remember right, roughly 2-3 acres (1 to 1.5 hectares?) maybe, and of unknown depth. Of course it was right over the final approach into the helipads for the prison and with my luck, I always swore that I would be forced to ditch in that damn thing and wind up coming to an inglorious end, drowning in someone else's poo.

@hubert9841

Жыл бұрын

@@petehaack5228 holy shit

@minhducnguyen9276

2 ай бұрын

​@@petehaack5228 "If you fall into that lake you'll get hepatitis" "Which one?" "How many letters are there in the alphabet?"

When it's just the field guys getting effected there is no better alternative. When it effects the office people then it's a serious problem.

@BeingFireRetardant

Жыл бұрын

Works the same at my company, field guys suffering in the 90 degree heat all day, no problem... office people lose AC for an hour, it's a code black level 12 emergency.

Nice Kilroy flag! Lolol.. Yeah, once or twice a year since we returned from OIF in 2008, when I sneeze I can smell and taste the burn pits and other nastiness. I then get an infection in my sinuses, and it usually ends up spreading into my lungs as well. The best part is that, since smell is so deeply rooted in our brains, it immediately puts me back in Mosul for a moment or five.

It's ridiculous that you will spent trillions and trillions on war but a few million for incinerators is just crazy talk. If the military was actually concerned they would have a portable solution already.

@stefthorman8548

Жыл бұрын

Millions per incenertor, so an few hundred million, overall.

@casbot71

Жыл бұрын

@@stefthorman8548 _So?_ That's still a great opportunity for a private company to be _overpaid_ for providing equipment and services … and in this case not have to worry about litigation or bad PR afterwards.

@danieldhawkins

Жыл бұрын

@@stefthorman8548 and how many millions will they be spending now, on healthcare instead?

@hul8376

Жыл бұрын

@@danieldhawkins Billions is my guess. so they would save a lot of money by having more control on the trash.

@hermanfurlong6752

Жыл бұрын

Why would the Amy worry about all the poison the men in the military are exposed to, general Miley and secretary of defense are perfectly in their million dollar mansions Boeing, General Electric, Raytheon, and other members of the industrial military complex are giving them in bribes to not worry about the poisonous they make that kill American troops along with troops they are fighting! Everyone should remember agent orange from Vietnam that has killed thousands of American soldiers who made it back from Vietnam, but the Kennedy family who owned the chemical company that made this poison still are making Maloney from their poison after all these years! The Kennedy family should be the ones paying damages from this agent orange to our soldiers and their family’s who have gotten sick and died from their poison!

Been interested in military affairs for around 25years, and this is the first coverage I’ve seen on this. I’m in the UK, but I feel remiss for not being aware of this practise. Thanks for reducing my ignorance T&P.

@alexs5968

Жыл бұрын

That’s very thoughtful feekygucker

@cjwrench07

Жыл бұрын

The use of Open-Air Burn Pits was also a major scandal in Canada throughout the 1990s. The brand new government opened up a lot of Cold War archives. They showed previous administrations had *secretly* operated open burn pits in Canada on behalf of our NATO allies and for our own toxic waste that only stopped in the mid-1980s. A considerable amount of the waste disposed of was: *Chemical Weapons AND Defoliants like agent orange, agent purple, and agent pink* The pits were also set-up on Federal Land upwind & upstream of both large cities and remote First Nations communities. They also did it without issuing any warnings, or even protective gear, for the soldiers and citizens affected. We passed legislation outright banning their use in the mid-1990s. Then in late 2001, a new administration secretly(as an “order in council”) added an exception to the law. It allowed their use anytime Canadian troops were deployed in the “War on Terror.” AND, the secret exception also added a complete liability waiver for any exposure that could in any way be “partially” attributed to any other sources of the toxic chemicals (like freaking secondhand smoke from cigarettes & cigars!). A case should be going before our Supreme Court by next October, to rule the liability exception as both illegal and unconstitutional. The Supreme Court are the only ones allowed to overrule it; since it was an order in council, not a law voted on by all of the previous parliament.

@sneedmando186

Жыл бұрын

Comedian Jon Stewart has been speaking on it for veterans, I think he may have even done some type of journalism video on it, it should be easy to find if you’re interested

@RoCK3rAD

Жыл бұрын

How does England dispose of their trash?

@Cohors1316

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Stewart has been very invested and vocal about this. There is a pretty good rundown on his show, but it’s AppleTV. If you don’t want to pay for that they also discuss it on the podcast.

1. Less Trash 2. Better incinerators, cheaper, mobile etc. 3. Transition to less toxic materials Thinking up solutions are easy, hard part is everything after the idea 😞

@AxaFin

Жыл бұрын

Or different type of trash that could be compostable or something

@plainText384

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why they don't just send the trash back with the people that bring them the supplies. They're already there and there's likely a similar or slightly smaller amount of trash to take away then there were supplies to bring in.

@sasas845

Жыл бұрын

​@@AxaFin Waste seperation (i.e. have some seperate trashbins) can funnel a large chunk of waste to composting & generally makes waste much easier to dispose. For all the might of the US military, stuff like that really put their competency into question. Or maybe US military products / consumables are just that toxic that not just the soldiers' shit is poisonous but also their food and their clothes and their everything. I really don't know, nothing of this makes any sense to me from a perspective as European.

@AxaFin

Жыл бұрын

@@sasas845 when I served my conscription time in Finland we always minimized trash since it could be used to track movement etc. Helps disposing when shit is biodegradeable n stuff

I remember in Afghanistan it would literally snow black ash daily from those burn pits

Not starting land wars in Asia would be a good way to decrease the need for burn pits

This shit where the politicians over the military fuck over service members and try to wriggle out of taking responsibility is one of the most heinous things about our country. Between this and agent orange denial I feel lucky to have gotten out with the comparatively minor problems I have due to serving.

You had a video on recruitment. People joining need to feel they aren't just disposable. Our troops are too valuable to be wasted like this. It is like putting your latrines downstream from camp rather than upstream...the problem needs to better protocol.

UN: We must regulate our carbon emissions!. US Military: Looks up from its toxic, smoke inhalation, trash burning refuse piles. "What are you gonna do about it?".

@AR15andGOD

Жыл бұрын

carbon emission is good for the environment.

@EC-dz4bq

Жыл бұрын

@@AR15andGOD Found the 50 cent'r

@jus7040

Жыл бұрын

@@AR15andGOD Spaghetti is carbonara.

@vos2693

Жыл бұрын

Please stop thinking in propaganda cliches. "Carbon emissions" are just CO2, it won't even suffocate you in open air. Burning plastic, electronics and other types of waste will produce much more toxic things: for example, fluorine compounds, carcinogenic ash, mercury compounds, heavy metals nanoparticles. You do not want any of these things anywhere near your body, and you cannot detect them until the damage is done. To prevent a health damage from CO2, all you need is to stand aside from smoke and breathe air.

@dariustiapula

Жыл бұрын

@@vos2693 That goes way over my head.

I remember reading a biography of a solider in Vietnam and he mention how dangerous garbage duty was because of the bullets and even grenades that ended up in the garbage and then thrown into burn pits

@ArtjomKoslow

Жыл бұрын

I also wonder what they did with all the Agent Orange Barrels... There must be Thousands of those alone.

@bernadmanny

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtjomKoslow The most common solution would have been take them out back and pour them out over the ground, solution number two would have been the nearest local water course or even better, sensitive wetlands.

@jamestarhalla6735

Жыл бұрын

And the burning barrels of human waste.

At least our VA isn't telling our vets to off themselves like in Canada. I hope you make a video on that by the way. I think that shit needs as much coverage as possible

@d0fabur5st82

Жыл бұрын

pretty low bar there

@jeff7.629

Жыл бұрын

Angry Cops posted a video on this early today.

@dmf4254

Жыл бұрын

That was crazy. I thought it was fake tbh

@80krauser

Жыл бұрын

Our VA just ignores you until you die

@LysergicKids

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the one good thing I can say about the US VA is that they never told me to off myself. That may literally be the only good thing I can say about the VA, but it's something I guess.

Maybe there needs to be some kind of brigade for this kind of logistics.

Incinerators costs: millions Medical bills costs: billions

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

This is the grand irony of the whole ordeal , they’ll end up paying more now

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose Thank you for your time Chad Cappy! 🫡

@goodmusic37

Жыл бұрын

great comment. And the saddest part of this because of DoD's refusal is: Medical bills costs: billions + Lives lost

We used to burn rubbish in an old oil drum when I worked at an outdoor activities place. Cardboard boxes, spent shotgun shells, plastic packaging, dud pyrotechnics, all went in the barrel. That probably wasn't very good for me

Who knew cutting cost would just cause a risk of a huge lawsuit that cost more than actually spending on needs

Uniforms, sensitive documents, cardboard, etc make sense to burn. Tires, batteries and chemicals need to be disposed of properly

One aspect that pissed me off when I did service in the than west German army, we had very strict instructions how to dispose and what goes where. Washbays had grease traps etc. However when we gone to grafenwöhr for live shooting exercises the US military had the washbays next to a creek and used powerful pumps to wash vehicles. Big burn pit where everything went, despite a state of the art incinerator only 30km away. What also amazed was what got tossed, tonnes of spend cartridges etc. I subsidised my conscripts pay by loading my transporter with all those cases, sell to the scrap metal dealers (we had permission, but had to make sure spend cases only

@classifiedveteran9879

Жыл бұрын

In Afghanistan, we were given pallets and f things like blankets and sandals, to give to the children/civilians as signs of good faith and the like. My commander told all the NCOs to hand them out on patrols. Every NCO nodded and smiled... Then they dumped all the humanitarian supplies on the burn pit, because they were all raging Islamophobes and wouldn't have none of that "being nice to Muslims" nonsense. Burn pits are easy access to destroying supplies/evidence/items that should not be destroyed. Also, were we had are burn pit, only privates and E-4 we're really exposed. Officers barely saw it because they were clear on the other side. They put the burnpit in a isolated part of the compound near a guard tower that only low ranking enlisted were stationed. NCO's would order us to stand near it, sometimes while getting smoked for no reason, whenever they got bored, because seeing us specialists and privates choke and gag while doing jumping jacks was amusing for them. It is used as a weapon against privates and specialists, to punish them for being new in the army. No other reason...

@jantschierschky3461

Жыл бұрын

@@classifiedveteran9879 that just sucks

I'm glad I spent much of my deployment up north away from that massive spiraling column of black smoke that rose over BIAP each day! It was the first thing we saw as soon as we exited the plane!

Considering their budget is effectively infinite the idea that something is too expensive is laughable. Not to mention they know they're gonna have to pay a substantial amount of money in medical care either directly or indirectly at some point after the fact. Now, assuming they still don't want the incinerators, and can't risk shipping the garbage out or having locals come in, how about this? What if, and hear me out on this one because its incredibly complex.... what if we were to dig a burn pit somewhere between 500 to 1,000 yards outside the base? Fill up a truck with garbage and drive it to the pit when it fills up!

@josetrujillo2394

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this "pay for it later" mentality is literally everywhere and has to go.

@arthur3816

Жыл бұрын

Its the US the medical bills are most likely going to be left to the individuals

Thanks for the video. Both the following statements can be true simultaneously: 1. Burn pits were the least bad of sll bad options. 2. We need to take care of the vets.

I guess I was fortunate to be at Balad in 2010. I don’t even remember a burn pit except hearing about it. The fine dust was my major health concern.

@deusvult6920

Жыл бұрын

Every fob had one

This is extremely messed up on so many levels. Thank you for taking the time to detail just how egregious it was!

My lungs are scared from burn pits

Sounds like we have the best and brightest running out military. 👌

Dude your channel is the absolute best. Being the grandson of a Korean war vet & a German who smuggled Jews out of Nazi Germany. (Not to mention brother in law who served same time as yourself, close friends etc) Military has always played it's part in my family, idk if it's fortunately or unfortunately to this point as the youngest Hickey generation of eligibility yet to join the armed forces. All the insight, way of thinking & subtle ques of inner working inside that career path is soooo freaking appreciated!! Still in limbo of my decisions, idk which way you tilt the scales but definitely has informed the decision process. Keep it up gangster!

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

my grandfather was a korean war veteran also , an army artillery guy. glad to hear your family got out of nazi germany safetly ! thanks for watching man , stay safe be well

@SHGames97

Жыл бұрын

Wish he was around to ask if maybe they knew each other! Made my day & thank you for the kind words. Same to you bro, as always amazing stuff!

You mean freedom fumes?

I want to say thank you for all the effort you put in today's amazing segments especially the little comical interludes your family portrait of you stuck in the fire at home legendary it's legendary

I was the logistics specialist (E-4) in charge of both waste disposal (at, you guessed it, a burn pit) and fuel operations during my deployment to a little-known corner of TWOT in the Philippines, officially OEF-P. Our burn pit was pretty small and was at least a few hundred meters from living quarters, but even so, I always wondered if it was really the best solution. So, while some people might find the subject of this video less "glamorous" than most, I was actually happy to see somebody finally talking about this issue.

I am totally amazed by the depth of research, the calm and balanced reasoning despite your personal involvement of the hazards. On the top of all, you can keep it being entertaining.

I remember reading about this in the book Corporate Warriors. Really put in perspective just how much manpower is needed to win a war, not even including the fighting

Love your channel. Problem solver steve here; (wife hates it). How about separating the trash. Paper, clothe, and other non-dangerous items are burned. The batteries/electronics/plastics etc., just dumped, (stockpiled) at an adjacent safe location. The other crap can burn, but requires a meteorologist's (assume the US has military ones of these) to ok as to wind direction. The burn pile will be smaller. Another fine example of the Americans using the best solution after everything else has been tried. I think. Not a vet but from a family of draftees.

@Pystro

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same. Everything that gets LESS dangerous if it's burned (human refuse, secret documents, anything that attracts flies or rats like spoiled food, ...) gets burned. Everything that gets MORE dangerous by burning it (batteries, electronic trash, ammunition, ...) gets stored. That trash can then either be fed into an incinerator if the FOB gets large enough to get one. Or if the base is abandoned before the end of the conflict, you can burn it with only a skeleton crew directly at the base (If you need more security they can camp out 500m or so away from the burn pit). And if the base stays in operation until the end of the war you can then have the trash hauled to a proper disposal site or backhauled without the threat of ambushes. Or you could even backhaul it to a large base during the war if there are periods where the area seems safe enough to do so. Uniforms can either be cut up to make them unusable or get burned (they are safe ENOUGH, with only minimal amounts of plastic in them).

@xyzpdq1122

Жыл бұрын

That makes FAR too much sense! (I thought the same thing when he was talking about needing to burn some things for OpSec and others for convenience)

@goodmusic37

Жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head. But when did the top brass actually care about common sense when it came to looking out for the infantrymen?

I really like this “new format”. Just sitting down and talking. Do you guys have a podcast ? If not, what are you waiting for ? Just one episode a month or whatever. I would watch the living hell out of it ! :) love the content ! God bless

Surprisingly interesting - thank you for putting this together. Have a great weekend.

From my experience in Afghanistan. Spending most of my deployment in Coy+ size patrol bases (140 - 200) people). Requiring alternative waste disposal, when above 100 people for 3 months, wouldn't be feasible. For the simple reason of lacking personel. Bases at that size, are barely staffed adequately for base defence and QRF, while conducting foot patrols regularly. Let alone offensive operations far from base. Mind you, I'm Danish, and I've only spent time in Danish and British Patrol bases. We mostly only burned human waste and packaging from food. Stuff that would otherwise cause disease, if left laying around. As well as paper, classified or not. Everything else was put aside, and put on supply trucks for their return trip. We didn't use jet fuel for our burn pits, which were generally situated downwind, outside of base. But even though our pits weren't as bad as reporting from the US. From the smell alone, they probably weren't safe. Especially for the poor grunt with the stick, or the Section providing perimeter defence for him.

Welp, I'm adding this as another reason to avoid the military draft. Superb video and very educational. Hopefully a new type of practice/technology/solution could fix this problem soon enough.

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

thanks I try to make informative videos like these occationally along with the weapons content

You are absolutely correct. Every issue needs to see the full light of day, good and bad, but open and honest, if we are ever to solve the gnarly issues facing us. Way to go, excellent discussion. Thanks kindly

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

thanks I'm glad people saw where I was coming from with this video , sometimes I don't include enough caviets and side notes about what my intentions are. my intentions are for things to get better and I feel like it's too easy to just say "the military is evil they wanted troops to get sick" it's more complicated than that

Hey man! Just wanted to say i really like the chill laid back scenes on the couch I’ve seen in last couple of videos. It hits different in a cozy manner i really dig it!

The DOD hiring someone to build a mobile incinerator seems like it would be fraught with corruption, all FOBs would really need in a sense would be (principly) a wood stove, with a propane burner as one "unit", and have the second "unit" be a giant filter/exhaust, make the exhaust "unit" so that it can hold many different filters that could be changed out as simple as a CD tray. This doesn't seem difficult to drum up especially if you aren't an unqualified Armchair engineer. Money is whats stopping this from happening or the ability to profit off of more crude methods.

@Seth9809

Жыл бұрын

So there is a cheap method and a method they can skim off off.... Why was neither used?

@davidkish1854

Жыл бұрын

@@Seth9809 best answer is deep seated corruption combined with government bureaucracy, and a pinch of incompetence

Hey Chris. Just wanted to let you know... I've been watching your channel for quite a while now and always find your videos informative and entertaining. There are a lot of shitty channels out there trying to get subs and likes. You produce quality content with well researched, genuine and pertinent information. I'm not a military guy but your straight-up approach and humour have made me look forward to your videos. I'm always happy when I see a notification. You have one of the best channels on these topics. Thanks for putting in the effort to do it better than all the others. Thank you also for your military service and keep up the great content.

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

thanks I really appreciate the kind words brother, I try my best to highlight things I think you guys will find interesting . I'll keep making the videos if you all are still interested in watching them

3-pronged solution: first, a redesign of materials used by soldiers in combat to last longer or be more burn safe. 2nd, instruct soldiers to separate hazardous waste from being burned. 3rd mandate procedures for burn pit placement, distance from camp, burning agents, hazardous waste management, and how to defend it from enemy...the burn pit is the best option, its whats being burned that matters

@TheRedKibet

Жыл бұрын

Burning isn't the best for the environment, no matter what's burning.

@scaredofghosts6813

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRedKibet fires a natural process, some plants cant germinate without fire ..too late to save lol unexploded ordnances, chemical weapons, indigenous waste. Look up how they contaminated their own ground water. Burning wax paper will be just fine lol

Thank you for letting us know about this.

Contractor here. I sat about 100 meters away from the incinerators at a base in Iraq for 6 months. I still do not have much of a sense of smell and am constantly hacking and coughing.

@unvergebeneid

Жыл бұрын

So much for the filters...

@hul8376

Жыл бұрын

It didnt have filters?

@Aikibiker1

Жыл бұрын

@@hul8376 no idea I did security, not waste management. All I know is there was a layer of gine ash everywhere at our ECP and there area smelled awful back when I could smell. At some point I stopped smelling it. Later I realized I wasn't smelling much of anything. It was Iraq so a small blessing at the time.

I operated a burn pit a coupke times. The vultures waiting for you through the black smoke is...an experience...

@titaniumskunkogkush4365

Жыл бұрын

Just imagine how much the locals suffer from your burn pits. Not only you killed them but poisoned them with your burn pits.

Hm, this is interesting. One doesn't normally think of garbage disposal logistics in the military, yet this brought to light how important it actually is.

I always wondered about this. Thanks for explaining it.

I disagree with Jon Stewart on 99% of topics. But I have to thank him for taking up this issue. Despite my disagreement with his politics, I definitely think he is a good man.

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

same I disagree with him all the time but he's hilarious and he's done more for veterans than any other celebrity. he gave me my first job as a Production assistaint on his show!

Just use something like those Russian Crematorium trucks. Strap a filter on it and drive one up for every fifty people on those small little bases or whatever number it would be. Dynamic, mobile, and gives defense contractors something else to sell. Win, win, win.

I am glad that families and veterans are finally getting the help they need! It was too late for my family's friend Peter Antioho. He went to West Point and then served in Afghanistan where he was exposed to the noxious burn pits. He developed brain cancer afterwards and him and his family had to fight the VA to get benefits linked to his service.

I could listen to this guy for days. These types of guys are top tier battle buddy’s

Surely such things as a mobile garbage incinerator exists huh? Seems like that would be a better idea that a permanent one, at least for military needs

My whole family are veterans and they get shit healthcare..... Goes to show how the government tries and gets out of treating conditions directly caused by their time in service. These are the ones that fight for our and the governments freedom too!

Thank you for speaking to the issue.

Sounds like they need to develop a small scale incinerator that could be carried on a lmtv

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

not a bad idea, might have been why the Russians had mobile incinerators with them in addition to for the bodies

Oh what do you know, another instance of the DOD not giving a fuck about the average servicemember if it hurts their bottom line. Glad you're covering this, cappy.

About the logical burden: I think the FOB need suply to be carried in by trucks, which mostly return empty, so they could carry waste on their way back, or is there something stoping them from doing this?

@davidty2006

Жыл бұрын

Although then there would be the issue of cleaning the trucks out. That no driver wants to do.

I remember the Balad/ Anaconda burn pit well. My Div Cav squadron was there in early 04. If you went out on the East side of the base, you drove through the smoke.

Great report. I sent a copy to my congressman. I’m sure one of his interns will watch it.

Burn pits are not cheaper than incinerators if you include the healthcare costs.

@KennyNGA

Жыл бұрын

Well there's no healthcare cost because your lungcancer is not service related

@boosterh1113

Жыл бұрын

True, but the healthcare costs don't show up on the yearly budget. They are paid out years later by a completely different department. And if you've ever worked with accountants before (especially government accountants), they live and die by their yearly budgets. As far as the bean counters are concerned, if something can be paid for in a different year, it is basically free; and if you can get someone else (i.e. Veteran's Affairs, not DoD) to pay for it, it is actually free.

incinerators is the simple and obvious way to go. you can build them into trailers and have huge chimneys. also since you have gas masks, burn fast and away from the group and wear the masks during a burn. but just use incinerators. filter the chimney, and bury the waste. but since the govt put soldiers in this place, they need to support soldiers they hurt.

@timf2279

Жыл бұрын

The Russians use them for cremation of bodies, very mobile.

A very thoughtful segment! Keep up the great work.

Thanks for another entertaining, informative video, as I've never heard of them before.

@Taskandpurpose

Жыл бұрын

thanks !

Always love to hear Cappys takes and insight. America really needs to start doing better; The U.S. spends the most of any other country on it's military yet we still poison the very people who put their lives on the line...It's disgusting and frustrating. All that money and it was somehow impossible to get incinerators and competent crew to run them? Literally billions of dollars yet you still poison your own...

The obvious solution is to stop generating so much waste; obviously some is required, but cut down on single-use plastic packaging and other trashy things

@casbot71

Жыл бұрын

And that would have a reduced logistical footprint, resulting in less resupply missions needed. But of course that would also mean less money for contractors, so I've just answered why …

@boosterh1113

Жыл бұрын

While I am sure that some efficiencies could be found, that single use packaging exists for a reason. Every item of supply has to be able to be divided up and shipped all the way out to combat outposts. So everything needs to be packaged in small enough units that it can be handed to individual soldiers, while still being tough enough to survive extreme heat/cold/rain/dust. So you end up with a shipping container full of plastic-wrapped pallets of MRE boxes, each box holding 10 sealed MREs, and each MRE having a dozen or more individually sealed packets or stew or chicken in sauce or whatever. Sure, it would be a lot more waste efficient to just send out a 55 gallon barrel of MRE-stew, but how would a battalion with dispersed companies split that barrel up to send to three different company FOBs? How would the company quartermaster divide up the stew to give it to individual soldiers when they went on patrol?

excellent video. one of your bests.

I'm non military in rl but fck me these videos are as entertaining and informative as it gets. really well done

From a science point of view, it’s not that hard to find a place to landfill waste. You have to check the hydrology of the site, but good sites are all around us. It is probably necessary to use irradiation on the human waste. I can only think of intelligence problems with discarded papers. Just burning these shouldn’t cause health problems.

"3.5 million service members were exposed to burn pits.." I think it's clear that the people in charge don't give a shit about those that put their lives on the line to do what they ask. It's the most disgusting betrayal I've ever seen. They put these brave people in harms way then don't take care of them properly when they get hurt.. Despicable.

@deusvult6920

Жыл бұрын

The military has been doing that forever. People need to stop enlisting. Fk em

@penultimateh766

Жыл бұрын

Oh gee and I really expected war to be completely safe. I guess all those guys gunned down before they even exited their boats at Normandy were just suckers.

Great video thanks learned a lot about the topic valuable

it's videos like this that make me love this channel. It's easy to say burn pits bad. It's nice to get a much fuller understanding of why they are used and the potential immediate safety hazards of the other alternatives.

Better designed burn pits would definitely help. Dig the pit with an air source from the bottom would help a lot.

Sounds like the DOD needs to issue an RFP for a mobile incinerator that can be run by the logistics troops at any FOB or outpost. You simply deploy however many you need to the smallest bases, and keep extras at the FOB in case one is destroyed by the enemy. Make sure that it's up to the task to such a degree that the Marines and the Army can both utilize the platform safely and easily. if it needs to run on JP-8 then install a proper burning unit that makes sure it burns the fuel and whatever is inside completely, so there's less smoke and soot to begin with, then filter the output. All you would need to load onto trucks to be disposed of is the filters

I never knew much about these burn pits. However, I do know the after effects of chemical poisoning. My grandfather led chem division in Vietnam. He led an infantry division in Korea and had commendations from all over for being so active. After Vietnam, he came home with a twitch, could barely speak and my uncle was born disfigured and mentally handicapped.

We ask so much from our troops. We owe them much better. It’s shameful.

Yeah, Balad had a pretty bad one. I was there in 2008

@aevangel1

Жыл бұрын

I was there in 2007. When walking through the housing pod area it looked like the London Fog.

Vietnam veterans had agent orange exposure. Gulf war veterans had guld war syndrome which I'm assuming it's from some drug they were exposed to and DU. Iraq and Afghanistan veterans had burn pits to other chemicals. Now, those who are serving RN in Syria and Iraq and also in other parts of the world, have what exposure?

Also incredible video! Thank you

Got an ad on this video for burn pit compensation. It’s taken so long for the progress that’s been made.

This IS A TERRIBLE EXCSUE. THE MILITARY IS THE LARGEST EXPENSE IN THE US BUDGET. PLUS. THE MILITARY/PENTAGON HAS LITERALLY FAILED EVERY IRS AUDIT PERFORMED EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND THEY CAN NEVER EXPLAIN WHERE THE MONEY WENT. OVER $1TRILLION WAS MISSING IN 2001. It’s more than triple that now…

How about a truck mounted incinerator? 10 million dollars pleeeease.

Great video Cappy! Can you do one on Camp Stronghold Freedom K2 Uzbekistan. That is an under-told story about toxic exposure our troops and airmen were exposed to from 9/11 until it closed in 2005. They had to build berms around the living area to mitigate the radiation on the old Soviet base.

Another great video