My bullpup love is at the CarniK Con level.

I saw an L85 for sale in America for $10,000 back circa 1994. That's the only time though. They're essentially unobtanium.

@LarryGraham7

5 ай бұрын

My local gun store had a semi auto one for $3,400 about the same time.

@moredistractions

5 ай бұрын

@@LarryGraham7 The one I saw was semi-auto too in a gun list they used to send out only to FFLs, alas I didn't have 10k at the time. It's a shame they never made them broadly available to American sportsmen. By all accounts it's supposedly a junky rifle but it was also cool looking and historic. The FAMAS is another rare bullpup that never made it over here. It's weird how the major NATO countries are now giving up their exotic space-age designs and switching to the 1950s American derived Armalite platform.

I'm NOT watching bread and circuses!

@donttread5916

5 ай бұрын

/ u mean you won't support leagues that take knees and, support him control lol😂 👍.

@donttread5916

5 ай бұрын

/ that's not the American way, shame on you 😅😂😮

@donttread5916

5 ай бұрын

/ ops gun control 🤷

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Since I recorded this after my wife & mother's birthday dinner, yes there was some bread. No circus around as far as I know though. Not unless those weird ass clowns are coming back in 2024?

My first bullpup which I got last year is a Bushmaster M17s. Pretty cool design.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

I've owned 2 of them, so i say this lovingly but..its the bullpup with a receiver made from a piece of roof gutter pipe lol. Seriously, look at it. Its amazing. Back in the early 2000s, the M17s was about the only AR15 mag compatable bullpup on the market, and that was very important thanks to the Fed. AWB in effect at the time. It has some interesting Aussie roots too.

The one bullpup that wasn't mentioned and would've been a decent collectable, The SAR-21 from Singapore. Otherwise, Great vid and Thanks! 😁

@echodelta2172

5 ай бұрын

might wanna check out how many of those are actually in the US, bud

The AUG has am adjustable trigger but does not come adjusted from the factory. You have to do it. If you take your stock off and look at the trigger bar you will see a hex nut. That is the trigger adjustment nut. TnSteyr has a video on how to adjust it. HUGE difference!

The AUG is actually the 3rd most common military rifle in the world. 1st is the AK, 2nd is the M16/M4.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Yep, but there's a large gap in between the 2nd and 3rd positions. Its even more confusing once you toss the FAL and G3 into the mix too. In the end, doesn't matter, AUG is a prooven platform that has lasted half a century.

love my aug, its not just a great bullpup but an overall great military-self defense-ranch rifle

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

That was the life my 1st FS2k Tactical went to. A friend with a big farm/ranch bought it.

No shame here, I dig my Aug...and I'm an AR fan-boi. Every time a friend of mine picks up the Aug and runs a mag, they all say..."I gotta get one these".

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Yep, bullpups have a certain reputation but if someone actually tries firing them, more often than not, they are pleasantly surprised. Not all the time of course but often.

In order of my owned favorites: X95, Tavor 7, VHS2, RDB. So I guess I like them too. Training is the key to working a bullpup.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Exactly....instead of a person insisting that all their firearms be molded to them and conform to what they want; why not try learning a new skillset and adapting yourself to different firearms? You might just discover you like the new way even more too.

I love this channel! Been a Patreon for years. Please never change. Thank you.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Not changing is kind of my problem lol. I probably try it more to keep up with modern times but....I just want to be myself and talk about things i enjoy.

Nice video as always Misha!

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

cheers

I like the concept of bullpups, they're just so out of the box. I have to go with the AUG, the barrel change out option is just too cool. Been nice spending the evening with you Misha, cheers.

Managed to pick up a P90 parts kit back in 2012. Someday I'll pick up an original PS90, the green non-picatinny railed version like they are supposed to be, and use the original barrel to SBR it. Also managed to score a P90 cleaning kit, the kind that goes in the stock, that PS90's for some reason never came with.

Have around a dozen bullpups. Love them. Only one of them is a shotgun (keltec ks7). Have more ars. Have more aks. Love weird junk too. Aug and ps90 are probably tied for me. I recently got the tavor 7 and keltec rfb. Both of those are amazing. RFB feels like an over gassed 556. I guess Im a bullpup guy. I would love a sa80 too.

@markp4401

5 ай бұрын

Keltec doesn’t have the best reputation. Maybe it’s undeserved. I’ve never owned one.

@Rupan-rx

5 ай бұрын

@@markp4401 i own 6-7 keltecs rifles. (If I don’t know the exact number of my guns my wife can’t get mad). Only one had a warranty issue and they fixed it for free. I broke the stock fooling around. I was specifically highlighting keltec to let people know I don’t just own a bunch of bullpup turkish shotguns haha.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

I don't have a KELTEC mostly because I'm a military collector & shooter. That said, the Sub2k has always interested me ever since I saw it hit the market around 2001-2002. I also like the old Armalite/Henry AR7 Survival rifle too.@@Rupan-rx

I saw the semi-auto SA80 LMG (L86A1 LSW) on GunBroker back in November of 2021. Went for $48,525. Man I wish I had the money then.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Um, what's about what my cabin is costing me lol. As cool as an L85 would be? Yeah, i'll take amountain retreat over one me thinks?

@bitfreakazoid

5 ай бұрын

@@misha5670 Hmmm... Tough choice. Probably the mountain retreat. lol

The way you make bullpups sound at the beginning is incredibly similar to how people talk about anime. Bullup weebs unite

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Quite a great point.

I LOVE bullpups

I like all three you ended up with. I wish say the a3 with steyr spec mags release etc. is what I own. There is a tactical tuna at local gun pusher. The guy wants 2750.00 no budge. I just can't do it. I've been drooling over your cast off vhs 16". Never known. Great video as always. The dillweed abides!

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

$2.7k for the Tactical FS2k? yeah i probably wouldn't do that myself either; but if it were a 'Standard' edition with the optic? Then that would be a great price for that version here in 2024.

@nedanschutz

5 ай бұрын

It is the standard. Boxed optic ect. Just sorta afraid of breaking parts. I would want to shoot it some. That's a lot of money for me. Just got the m70 uf from atlanticfirearms. In the process there. Pistol grip para furniture from apex, optics mount ect. If I run into more $ maybe on the fn. I have fondled it and it is cool.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

$2.7k is about $1k under the market price today for an FSK2 Standard. As to breaking parts? Simple; don't do that j/k. Being serious, this is just something everyone with a gun that isn't an AR15 or AK47 should think about. The US Aftermarket is pretty good and responsive though and if there's a demand for parts, someone will make something. This is even more true in the day of 3D printing.@@nedanschutz

I love that you don't defend your collection. I like what I like. Over time you build areas of emphasis, but your collection doesn't need to be laser-focused. Buy the best examples that you can afford of whatever you're into and have fun.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Man, i own 2 Ross bolt action rifles. So i am used to having firearms with known shortcomings lol. Not every gun has to be perfect. Plus hey, there's no one signle gun that's right for every single situation, know what i mean?

It’s hard for me to believe the technology isn’t there to put nicer triggers on bullpups. Maybe it’s a cost thing. I do agree that people tend to complain about them too much though.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Not so much a cost thing as it is a reliability thing. A lighter spring often equals the hammer striking the primer with less force. When i put a better FCG in my Tavor SAR, its reliability with lower end ammo like steel case went down.

"That is one benefit of all bullpups is there's at least the possibility to use one hand to use these and to have your other hand free to..." hold a second P90 for taking on Goa'uld. :D

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

BTW: I put up a video on the BC303 Prometheus over on my personal channel a week or so ago haha.

@bitfreakazoid

5 ай бұрын

@@misha5670 It's been a while since I've seen the series. Is that the ship that was named after O'Neill?

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Nah its the one O'Niell wanted to name "Enterprise' lol@@bitfreakazoid

Misha!!!!

I like bullpups but I don’t care much for the looks of the VHS. I’m considering getting one though because it’s developing quite a good reputation. Things tend to grow on me too. A VHS might look pretty cool to me in a few years.

@markp4401

5 ай бұрын

We all know what happens to imports.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

100% agree with you. I got my first one thanks to Sammy the Dworf tipping me off to where one was in-stock right as they were coming out. That + me just being bored got me to try it. Funny thing is, that was how I fell for the CZ 805 Bren and ARX100 too.

The AUG is the only bullpup that looks great. Americans don't like any other bullpup. As an 80s kid the AUG was in every action movie. Robocop/predator 2 and a lot of B movies. I'd have bought a Famas if the Bush 89' import ban didn't allow them in. Century arms was close to putting a semi on the market. Love your channel!

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Century did put a semi-FAMAS on the market, but only imported 1 batch. They didn't order more because the guns didn't sale well. This info (and some more I have) came directly from a Century employee who worked in their importation department at the time. They also imported .22LR FAMAS guns and even some airgun types firing pellets.

@echodelta2172

5 ай бұрын

Younger generations love guns that are in video games, therefore the Croatian VHS-2 is getting good amounts of traction in the US.

@WestSideGorilla1980

5 ай бұрын

@@misha5670 yes I heard the same something like 200 rifles came in. Then the 89' ban of semi auto rifles was the end of imported rifles like the AUG and spas15, polytech legend, Berreta ar70 FNC...ect. 94' crime bill made it almost impossible to make copies of those rifles until 04'.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

And the older generations loved guns they saw in movies. @@echodelta2172

Looks like you have enough room for a bayonet on your x95 with that handguard for the sbr version. If you could have acquired and installed a lug on the barrel before pinning and welding the hider. That would have been a unique version. I wish the x95 had kept the lever mag release or at least in addition to the push-button so there could be two easy ways. The FS2000 is so expensive used and I would be worried if I needed parts that aren't around. That tubular eject out the front is cool though. Only copied similarly by KelTec. I've never had a ps90 in hand to check, but is most of the barrel an extension or sleeve that is pinned and welded on? If so, it could be possible to undo that and have your preferred SBR version and still have an FN barrel. I think the STG-77 not having the original one piece receiver may have harmed sales to collectors.

I always wanted a bullpup but they are Soo expensive I just dream of it that's all.

Let’s all rush site B

👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻

I've owned the holy Trinity this the iwi and the Kel tec rdb I only kept the Kel tec

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

We did review the RDB some years back on this channel also.

Have you been able to check out Glock conversion bullpup from meta tactical?

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Fox has one of those I believe.

@bradd8383

5 ай бұрын

@@misha5670 super light

@timewave02012

5 ай бұрын

Too bad they don't make a short barrel version. I have an SBRed Glock. 10" barrel with 20" OAL, like the P90, is such a nice form factor for a PDW.

Is the cabin going to be like Tim's from Military arms channel where you're inside shooting out through a window?

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

lol maybe if its butt-ass cold? Being serious, no the shooting area will be a few yards away from the cabin itself. Also, I did design t he porch where it could be shot from if it was needed; say if its raining or something.

20:39 Misha vs Semi truck 😂😂😂😂

I love the FS2000. Fight me you tuna haters!

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

lol, yeah I know, right? Its just oddly satisfying. I admit all of its shortcomings and just don't give a damn.

I have an X95. To me, the handguard of 13" version just seems too short, but that's just my own perception

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it is a bit short but...i love the weight reduction having it + the shorter top rail gives the firearm. It balances perfectly over the grip area now IMO.

@petesheppard1709

5 ай бұрын

@@misha5670 If it works, it's not weird, so I'll get used to it. A mag fed lever gun with rails and M-Lock may look too goofy for words, but if it's more practical, then we FUDDS!! will just have to get with the program.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

There's just enough room for a VFG with the short forearm, which is about the only accessory I need myself. Also I could easily put a Streamlight on the side too...if that was i needed lights ;p@@petesheppard1709

@petesheppard1709

5 ай бұрын

@@misha5670 I recently put a short VFG on my X95, and it does make a big difference in handling and comfort!

I would like to get a VHS, I saw them in combat used by Iraqis fighting daesh.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

HS Produkts does seem to make a very solid, dependable firearm.

Hey Misha I was thinking maybe you should have gotten a FAMAS instead of doing your cabin project. Only $126K on GB. LOL!

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

You know how hard it was to convince my wife the cabin was a good ideaa as it is? lol I can't even imagine putting a FAMAS on the table as a good 'investment' haha.

PSA has the Aug with the 24” MG barrel and bipod for $2199. Would you bite on that?

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

*shrug* doesn't matter what I'd do. Matters what you feel like and what you enjoy? Do what's right for yourself.

@thischannelisbackon5679

5 ай бұрын

20" non heavy barrels are like 499$ or so. I bought mine nib for like 1799. Atleast you get the HB with the gucci bipod vs aftermarket 20" barrel.

5.7 military ammo is designed to penetrate armor. FN civilian ammo is designed to _not_ penetrate armor. 🤣

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

To be fair, thanks to US import restrictions, its kind of a necessary distinction if FN whats to sell 'pistols' here.

I’ve Never Shot or Owned a Bullpup So I Have To Go With My AR’s Misha 😎😀

Not Watching the Woke bullshit on CBS if thats what your asking 😂. Or did you post during superbowl on accident 😅

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

What? no? I didn't even realise there was a superbowl going on. I just got back from a family dinner and realised I hadn't posted a video in a while. So i made one to put up.

@hatchetwound666

5 ай бұрын

You missed out that was a great game.

@misha5670

5 ай бұрын

sports ball stuff just has never interested me personally, but its always cool when someone is passionate about something. I'd never dismiss somoene else's hobbies. Afterall, I have plenty of my own.@@hatchetwound666