THE BRANDENBURG STONE: Proof of the Prince Madoc Legend? (Southern Indiana)

In 1912, a farmer found an unusual, ancient-looking limestone tablet in his field. It seemed to have an exotic language, that he’d never seen before, chiseled into its surface. Over the next 50 years, he showed the stone to family, friends, and even took it to the fair, hoping to find anyone that could decipher it, but no one ever could.
Fast forward to the late 1990's, and someone not only deciphered it, but tied it to the legend of Prince Madoc. As the story goes, Madoc sailed to North America from Wales, in the year 1170, 322 years before Christopher Columbus! And not only that, built an ancient castle in Southern Indiana!
This film covers the mysterious Brandenburg Stone, unexplained Roman coins found in Kentucky and Indiana, ruins of an ancient castle in southern Indiana, and Native American stories of “white Indians”, that lived along the Ohio River. This is the first film to fully explore this intriguing legend. The story has captivated Southern Indiana people for generations, and continues to this day!
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  • @garyfrancis6193
    @garyfrancis61939 ай бұрын

    Rule of thumb: if you find ancient European relics in America , don’t give them to the Smithsonian.

  • @burrengirl3409

    @burrengirl3409

    28 күн бұрын

    Absolutely! The question is WHY.

  • @stephanie_stewart
    @stephanie_stewart10 ай бұрын

    It is amazing how much the smithsonian destroyed to fit their definition of history. We now know many ancient people were here. Thank you for this deep dive.

  • @Sanecrist

    @Sanecrist

    10 ай бұрын

    Would it have been better if they displayed the artifacts as evidence of the intense “racism” of our region? Any legends that they don’t approve of are racist, don’t you know? At this point, most people believe this legend isn’t true, but there’s always that ‘what if’ factor that makes me wish the Smithsonian at least kept the “probably not true” items in a separate section. It’s frustrating hearing institutions claim “historically people hate anything they don’t understand.” And then do the exact same thing! Demonize entire groups of curious, adventure seeking people just because the city dwelling “academics” don’t understand why we value our own folklore even if it’s not true. It’s piece of history (like it or not) and a contributing to our desire to preserve the land. You’d think they’d appreciate it in that respect. But no, we’re all just dumb, racist, country bumpkins to them.

  • @BartG87-

    @BartG87-

    10 ай бұрын

    Like the skeletons of giants . They were taken to The Smithsonian and somehow "misplaced" ? 🤷🏼

  • @toddricketts9498

    @toddricketts9498

    10 ай бұрын

    Funded by government scientist are the last ones to ever preserve history

  • @greg7129

    @greg7129

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Sanecrist If you keep people dumbed down and make them feel inferior, you can control them. Keeping people in fear is also a huge part of the controlling too. Look at what goes on now with the powers that should't be.......start digging for truths of anything and everything and you will find we have and are being lied to.

  • @greg7129

    @greg7129

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BartG87- Oh for sure, much evidence of that. Seems to me that somewhere in the early 1900's they started hiding all of that. There are many newspaper accounts of finding giant bones all over.............then it just stopped. Getting rid of evidence and denying they ever had it. It is a shame what we let them do to us in every way imaginable.

  • @chesterfieldthe3rd929
    @chesterfieldthe3rd92910 ай бұрын

    A great tragedy. Taking history away from our eyes and not letting people know our past and learn from it is one of the biggest crimes against humanity. Shame on anyone who does this.

  • @Hankyjane

    @Hankyjane

    9 ай бұрын

    FYI. It continues. But right now they are focused on turning humanity on itself. I am an example and a witness to the fact that millions are owned by the satanic web in our country. Often called organized crime. They are baring false witness against thousands of people across our nation and in every community. The criminals own the victims, the laboratories, much of the legal system. Stop supporting their isolation of individuals. It's all deception. Watch for it in your community. Lies against isolated individuals,,, Criminals run is packs and have community support. Beware. Don't let them use you to isolate or harm others.

  • @trevorslater2746

    @trevorslater2746

    9 ай бұрын

    Not the 1st time the Smithsonian has so called lost ,hidden artifacts

  • @rodbottomley4514

    @rodbottomley4514

    9 ай бұрын

    It pisses me off to no end as well. What are they hiding? Why? Its all about control if you ask me. Devious in its design.

  • @juliepearce6667

    @juliepearce6667

    9 ай бұрын

    Smithsonian and those at the top of the money heap. Who iwns Black Rock and Van Guard?

  • @IAmWithinEverything

    @IAmWithinEverything

    9 ай бұрын

    Shame on the Smithsonian

  • @BillyJ244
    @BillyJ2449 ай бұрын

    I found this very interesting and rather ironic that I watched this on Columbus Day. I'm a firm believer that they only teach you what they want you to know. This was extremely enlightening. Thank you for telling us about this.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, Bill! I’d wanted to do this one for at least 6 years, finally just plunged ahead.

  • @BillyJ244

    @BillyJ244

    9 ай бұрын

    You did a excellent job with this documentary. Your evidence was backed up with a lot of facts. History they don't want us to know about. Very informative. It kept me watching. I am very impressed by the content. Thanks again.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    @@BillyJ244 No worries, glad to do it! 🙂

  • @larapalma3744

    @larapalma3744

    9 ай бұрын

    Or, what they know tbf

  • @megan2878

    @megan2878

    9 ай бұрын

    Some part of history is being re written every day. I am 70 years old, and from watching videos like this, and in astronomy, scientific, in nature, archeological, and medical etc, I could write a volume on what has been reconsidered or proven wrong. There is no question that this will continue through time. Thank you for this example.🙂

  • @chadlongnecker630
    @chadlongnecker63010 ай бұрын

    A private named Shannon who was on the Lewis and Clark expedition had welsh grandparents, he swore that the Mandan indians were speaking a strange dialect of Welsh and that he could nearly understand some of what they were saying

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    I’d heard of several other Welsh immigrants easily speaking with the Mandan’s, but I couldn’t find names. Mysterious stuff!

  • @phyllistoy5756

    @phyllistoy5756

    10 ай бұрын

    Check out George Caitlyn paintings of the Mandans.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    @@phyllistoy5756 Few in the video.

  • @iahelcathartesaura3887

    @iahelcathartesaura3887

    10 ай бұрын

    That is huge important anecdotal info!

  • @futiousstyles3315

    @futiousstyles3315

    9 ай бұрын

    and there were vikings in Minnesota and hebrews utah too right..

  • @Yosef_Morrison
    @Yosef_Morrison9 ай бұрын

    Rose Island was part of my childhood. My ancestors have lived both sides of the river for centuries. As a kid we'd take our boat up the river and explore the ruins of the abandoned Rose Island amusement park. When my widowed mother remarried she moved the family to Florida when I was 15 so my learning of my local history stopped until today. Goshen, Kentucky is where my mother was born just over the holler from Rose Island Road. Now I understand how it got it's name. It was the road that all the old time people would take to cross the river on a ferry to have a big time at Rose Island when my grandmother was a young woman. I wanna go back home and find me a Roman coin!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    That area across from the Island, in Kentucky, is now a boat club. They have a restaurant there too, live music in the summer. 14 Mile Creek I’d love to explore with a boat. Worked with a guy who was going to retire and explore the Ohio River, should look him up.

  • @gregrot
    @gregrot8 ай бұрын

    As an old(ish) Welsh man, I've been aware of the legend of Prince Madoc, for most of my life. I really appreciated your film, it was extremely interesting. Just wanted to point out that Madoc, is pronounced the same as mad, Madoc, not May, doc. Thank you again.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s been pronounced “May-dog” in Indiana, for over 200 years. I would’ve gotten more corrections if I’d used the Welsh pronunciation! 🙂

  • @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973

    @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973

    8 ай бұрын

    There is a family near my home in Indiana, about 50 miles up river from Clarksville whose surname is ApMadoc.

  • @MadAl37

    @MadAl37

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRogerthere's a town about 3 miles from me called Plas Madoc. Which is palace of Madoc. Pronounced mad -oc.

  • @kingrix
    @kingrix9 ай бұрын

    I grew up in Louisville and have been fascinated with the Madoc story for decades. Thank you for this in depth exploration of the history and lore.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    My pleasure! It was one of the first legends I heard, after I moved here from central Indiana. I really enjoyed putting this one together! 🙂

  • @tomparry8877

    @tomparry8877

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m from wales and my dad always knew of a story of madoc he was the first to discover American and went from the afon ganol which is a small river that goes through my farm but back then it was much bigger I always thought he was just chatting shit

  • @johnhoyle6390
    @johnhoyle639010 ай бұрын

    What a magnificent work this is. The images, the dialogue, the music blend into a fascinating well researched film on an obscure curious historic legend. I'm impressed with the wide-ranging texts and objects you've found. Clearly a lot of good work went into making this documentary. Great time watching this. Thanks for the work you've done here. It couldn't have been made better.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you again, John! This one took a lot of research / editing to pull together, but I knew no one else was going to get it done. A researcher at Jeffersonville once had a film crew set up, to make a movie, it was going to be a big deal. I didn’t want to steal on his thunder. But after 6 years, I decided it wasn’t going to happen, and made my own. Hopefully people get something out of it, and start their own adventures! 🙂

  • @greg7129

    @greg7129

    10 ай бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger Thank you for sharing your work, much appreciated !

  • @delculbertson2369
    @delculbertson236910 ай бұрын

    Indiana author James Alexander Thom, wrote a book about this. It's titled Children of First Man. It's a great read.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Lots of interesting reads about the legend, some better than others of course. Too many dive into rabbit holes they shouldn’t, connecting other legends with zero evidence, splicing from other authors that also had no proof. I like to at least have something physical to pin my suppositions: pottery, petroglyphs, bones, graves, confirmed historical documentation. Not everything is a clue or a connection! 🙂

  • @johnmcook1

    @johnmcook1

    25 күн бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger bell beakers bro the fathers of welsh but much older. The first peoples where they the others came later indo eu dna as some have today

  • @chris.asi_romeo
    @chris.asi_romeo9 ай бұрын

    Imagine how late is Christopher Colombus to the party and yet mainstream historian give him all the credit

  • @appaloosa42

    @appaloosa42

    27 күн бұрын

    Because his ‘discovery’ led to commercial exploitation and colonization. Are you aware that Columbus was jewish, ans was asked by the leaders of the Spanish Jewish community to fond them s new home? ( they were cast out of Spain in 1492) and that he used exploration maps os the Chinese expedition of 1412?

  • @brindahoward4527
    @brindahoward45279 ай бұрын

    My dad was half Cherokee and told me when I was young that there were blue eyed native Americans. He had grown up in Missouri and moved to Indiana probably in the late 40s. He never lived in Southern Indiana so I don't know where he heard the story from. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Lots of legends and theories about where the blue eyes came from: Welsh explorers, Vikings, recessive genes, you name it! 🙂

  • @gullybull5568

    @gullybull5568

    9 ай бұрын

    Blue Green eye caucasian european celts picts hence from ARRATTA ultimately the oldest found arayan solar worshippers, henc3 the " so-called white indians "... hmmmm. Thanks im from that ancient line. !

  • @user-mi5cm1cm2z

    @user-mi5cm1cm2z

    9 ай бұрын

    smooch up and find my comment osiem 😊

  • @user-tp6hn6im2j

    @user-tp6hn6im2j

    7 ай бұрын

    Read about where they came from in the Book of Mormon the Native American author who abridged the history of all natives in America almost two thousand years ago

  • @PhantomOfThePsy-Opera

    @PhantomOfThePsy-Opera

    Ай бұрын

    @@brindahoward4527 Google Solutreans....pretty interesting

  • @standunitedorfall1863
    @standunitedorfall186310 ай бұрын

    That was wonderfully done, thank you. There are also legends of ancient Welsh being in the wilds of northern Alabama who left ruins. I believe it's the same Prince. Easy to look up.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Alabama has some extremely interesting anecdotal evidence, that ties to the Madoc legend.

  • @kathleennorton7913

    @kathleennorton7913

    9 ай бұрын

    Do you have any links, please?

  • @jeaniegreenwell7874

    @jeaniegreenwell7874

    8 ай бұрын

    There are remains of an ancient fort built in the Welsh style in a place called Bon Secour, Alabama on Mobile Bay that predates anything else European in America. It has been said for as long as I can remember that it was built by the Prince Maddoc. 31

  • @owentaylor9884
    @owentaylor98842 ай бұрын

    As a Welsh man i know the story of Madog. We have an annual event called the National Eisteddfod. A few years ago an American Indian chief with a Madog connection. He had some knowledge of the Welsh language.

  • @bendaves77
    @bendaves779 ай бұрын

    Anyone who still believes what's written as history isn't looking very hard and Anyone who supports the Smithsonian and their agenda should be stopped..

  • @cbsdracster6494
    @cbsdracster649410 ай бұрын

    I grew up in Meade Co and spent many a day at the library (the old one) and never head of this legend until a couple days ago with this video. It brings a smile to my face to see my old stomping grounds featured in your videos, Roger. Thank you.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    My true pleasure! As much as I enjoy telling these stories, it brings me even more joy, to hear I’ve brought back good memories. Some have moved away, and they miss their home towns. Others can no longer get out, and it’s the closest they’ll get to going back. It’s an honor and a privilege. 🙂

  • @pallas.5060
    @pallas.506010 ай бұрын

    30 years ago I was told that there was a Welsh fort wall near Dupont Ind. Thus, the rock wall inside the Jefferson Proving Grounds. Wow Roger, thank you for confirming this. Also 30 years ago I had a friend who was visiting northern Indiana and said he heard on the news that there was a Viking boat which washed out of a sandbar down river from Chelsea Ind. Could a Coracle have been discovered in the Ohio River? This history is so fascinating. Thank you Roger.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Had not heard of any submerged old boats but the Alice Dean: it’s still in the Ohio River, confirmed by a US Navy survey. I did hear about a “petrified stone man”, found near Tell City, but that was found to be a prank. Edward Travers Cox identified a ton of ancient mounds and stone fortifications across Indiana and Ohio, published his findings in 1879. But pioneer farmers had zero value for these structures, they only cut down on how much they could harvest.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Well welcome! Better late than never! 🙂

  • @timharper4246

    @timharper4246

    7 ай бұрын

    @AdventureswithRoger there was a massive mound in Columbus Ohio which was covered in dolomite and sandstone. It was something like 200ft wide and almost 8 feet tall. It took 6 horse drawn carriages a year and a half to remove the stone to use in building a bridge. Sadly, the remnants of the mound are all but gone and are on private property. The origional mound had to have taken an extremely long time to build

  • @ginamaria2579
    @ginamaria257910 ай бұрын

    Roger this video is amazing bravo 👏. I guess we can all agree some ages ago the Smithsonian’s path took a turn to no longer preserve History but hide it . I believe all History books should be re- written. Good job Roger. Sharing 🤗💕

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    It started with one of guy in charge of the Smithsonian, that was in competition with the Wright brothers. He even built a test facility behind the Smithsonian to test his plane. He was known to throw out claims and ideas he didn’t like, his philosophy later being called “conservative” or “protecting the public interest”. In truth, he wanted to control a narrative.

  • @tonyrainbolt9388

    @tonyrainbolt9388

    10 ай бұрын

    And they are still out there being "conservative" and "protecting the public interest" when they don't agree with results.@@AdventureswithRoger

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    @@tonyrainbolt9388 💯%

  • @JohnRBinghamofLucan

    @JohnRBinghamofLucan

    10 ай бұрын

    The keepers (and destroyers) of ancient artifacts have pushed their narrative so hard, so long. At this point even if they did have a change of heart and let out some of the truth they would have to admit being liars and plunderers so that's out of the question. It's a real shame that so much worldwide will never be known due to selfish jokers throughout history, like Langley. Those that thought their contrived perceptions were what the rest of humanity needed to know as truth. Thanks to Roger, and others, it's a blessing we can at least get an honest peek into reality through the things that did slip through the cracks.

  • @bettylinker4780

    @bettylinker4780

    10 ай бұрын

    I absolutely don't want to give anyone the right to change history cart blanche. Only if we find solid evidence to do so. I agree with you on the last thing.

  • @gregmccutchan.
    @gregmccutchan.10 ай бұрын

    Several videos I've watched in the last few years led me to believe that the Smithsonian is a shady organization. Thanks for another interesting video. 0:00

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    A part of me thinks, “Big inventory, outdated record keeping.” But we’re talking entire collections, known to exist 100 years ago, simply nowhere in the catalog!

  • @cherylmartin8572

    @cherylmartin8572

    9 ай бұрын

    For sure!

  • @leisa2054
    @leisa205410 ай бұрын

    The Smithsonian also hides or has destroyed the skeletons of many 'giant' persons, ie, ruling class that were buried in mounds. Many were 6.5-8ft tall.

  • @nightheron5892

    @nightheron5892

    9 ай бұрын

    This is patently untrue

  • @DerSchleier

    @DerSchleier

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@nightheron5892 You are mistaken. A California man excavated a dozen or more skeletons buried on Channel Islands (off the coast of Ventura County, California). He described them as being ten to sixteen feet tall given their skeleton size with the female skeletons being the shortest of them. Stanford University procured these skeletal remains then buried them in plaster... never to see the public eye. You truly need to educate yourself. "Kennewick Man" perhaps? My European blood line has been in North America since the early 1500's. We have hand drawn art proving some of our "native americans" were blatantly European/Caucasian.

  • @szsenyuk8887

    @szsenyuk8887

    9 ай бұрын

    Pyramid lake, Virginia City, Nevada. Piute Indians eliminated extremely tall red haired canabal group of people in a cave near pyramid lake, Nevada.

  • @TheSilmarillian

    @TheSilmarillian

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nightheron5892 Is it?

  • @alexjerome5429

    @alexjerome5429

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DerSchleier exactly. Ancestors of Dwapara Yug who were even much taller

  • @Paisleyposey
    @Paisleyposey10 ай бұрын

    You did great work here! Engaging, interesting and informative. No agenda, a breath of fresh air!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you!

  • @kiddywinklesmith
    @kiddywinklesmith9 ай бұрын

    Fascinating, if Madoc traveled at all he came from Rhos-on Sea, a story I've long followed. The story is that he had heard Viking stories of a land far to the far beyond the Western horizon and we think of Leif Erikson. Who was a Viking and visited Canada we understand from the Viking Sagas although not remaining long, he non the less visited in the 11th century. Keep up the good work.

  • @tonyrainbolt9388
    @tonyrainbolt938810 ай бұрын

    This is really great material! It's just like the History Channel if the History Channel were to show any history. I'm glad you do these. I learn so much.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    These are fun and interesting to cover, I always learn something new.

  • @wuznotbornyesterda

    @wuznotbornyesterda

    10 ай бұрын

    No, this is way much better! Thanks again Roger for your research beyond what we've ever known. 👏👏👏❤️

  • @andyfreek6664

    @andyfreek6664

    9 ай бұрын

    Well said mate

  • @johnscanlon2598

    @johnscanlon2598

    8 ай бұрын

    You’d think the history channel would pick up on everybody’s collective thoughts about their programming and bring it back to the old History channel , I do enjoy American pickers it should just be on a different channel

  • @44thala49
    @44thala4910 ай бұрын

    There are remains of an ancient fort built in the Welsh style in a place called Bon Secour, Alabama on Mobile Bay that predates anything else European in America. It has been said for as long as I can remember that it was built by the Prince Maddoc.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    I’ve heard of it, but have never been there. Tennessee is also supposed to have ruins.

  • @user-mi5cm1cm2z

    @user-mi5cm1cm2z

    9 ай бұрын

    yeppers 😊

  • @johnscanlon2598

    @johnscanlon2598

    8 ай бұрын

    There’s a hospital here in Ireland called Bon Secours

  • @deanmorgan7011

    @deanmorgan7011

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@AdventureswithRoger it would be worth you looking up a professor called LEE PENHALE, his knowledge on this subject, including this roman coins and the stone is amazing, he too was hitting brick wslles by the smithsonian and other societies, he speaks of this in his books and videos.

  • @jeffreypierce1440

    @jeffreypierce1440

    5 ай бұрын

    Georgia too... and madoc legends among the indians. @@AdventureswithRoger

  • @majorronaldmandell7835
    @majorronaldmandell783510 ай бұрын

    The Smithsonian loses so many priceless, unexplained, irreplaceable historical items. So many that it cannot be a coincidence. I believe this to be a deliberate by the mainstream scientific community to prevent any new ideas from entering science which might overturn what the already “know” because this is what their professors taught them, and their professors before them, and theirs before them all the way back to the 1700’s.

  • @MichelleInnes-pc2zn

    @MichelleInnes-pc2zn

    9 ай бұрын

    Russians used it

  • @sophiaweber710

    @sophiaweber710

    9 ай бұрын

    1,2,3, quinkydinks...4 is a plan ...

  • @simonbeck8579

    @simonbeck8579

    9 ай бұрын

    About 10 years ago on a cruise ship I met a US historical researcher who had an office at the Smithsonian, and she told me that the Smithsonian has two catalogues. One for public use, and a secret one for the very few.

  • @majorronaldmandell7835

    @majorronaldmandell7835

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree!

  • @patrickporter1864

    @patrickporter1864

    4 ай бұрын

    Surely the Irish and the Welsh could not have found America before the English. Bog trotters noway.

  • @awats72752
    @awats727529 ай бұрын

    The government has shown itself to be anything but trustworthy.

  • @Orpilorp
    @Orpilorp9 ай бұрын

    Hello! I really enjoyed your extremely informative video. I have heard about Prince Maddoc before. Here in Nebraska, we have a collection of paintings of the Mandan tribe. They settled in my area of Nebraska and then traveled up the Missouri River. They were very friendly with the European explorers, but the whole tribe became ill from one of the diseases that came with the explorers. There is a park in Omaha named in their honor. It is along a bluff overlooking the Missouri River, and I can't help but think that might have been one of their settlement sites. If I remember correctly, many of the River names in New England, especially Maine, have names very similar to Welsh names.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    You just told me many things I didn’t know! Thank-you! From what I read, smallpox wiped out all but 125 Mandans. It was a devastating disease, brought to them from white people.

  • @WalesTheTrueBritons

    @WalesTheTrueBritons

    2 ай бұрын

    America itself was a Cymro colony really! The three major people involved in it were all associated with Wales - Elizabeth the first, Richard Ap Meryck (A(p)MERYCK-A) and John Dee! It’s only seen as English because that was the country in which the Welsh were in control of at the time. And the control the English have asserted in the modern era and education system.

  • @reaganl.5113
    @reaganl.511310 ай бұрын

    It seems all legends when tested can be found to have some nugget(s) of truth. Great work once again in stimulating the imaginations of your viewers by doing the research and producing such excellent quality videos. This Madoc tradition and the Jonathan Swift Silver Mine Legend of KY seem to never die simply because no definitive evidence for or against can be gathered in enough quantity to convince a majority of people. I believe both legends have merit and shed a mysterious light upon our region of the county. John Filson's and Col. Harrod's disappearance add to these legends. Thank you for another great production!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    I really enjoyed my time over at Slade, Kentucky. The Swift legend was all around you, including his statue at the Wolfe County courthouse. Hope to get over there, again!

  • @lindafaulkner7982
    @lindafaulkner798210 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Roger, for putting ALL the Indiana info that you have found on the internet. If something horrible happens to all the physical items and places that you have recorded, at least it's recorded here for the future, hopefully.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    In many cases, oral stories from grandparents is all that’s left. I make these to preserve a rich history!

  • @iahelcathartesaura3887

    @iahelcathartesaura3887

    10 ай бұрын

    Roger, you are a true treasure!!

  • @appaloosa42

    @appaloosa42

    27 күн бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger i hope there are copies not subject to electronic deletion

  • @Mudhog72.
    @Mudhog72.10 ай бұрын

    This is among the best videos that I've ever seen on KZread. No doubt about it !!!

  • @JToddJeep
    @JToddJeep10 ай бұрын

    What an absolutely amazing and well put together video! My father and I were completely absorbed into the show as we watched, totally enthralled. Great job Roger!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you!

  • @joanbrown240
    @joanbrown2408 ай бұрын

    My daughter recently talked to a Cree man married to a Welsh woman. They claimed that although some words and pronunciations were different , they could understand each other when speaking their native languages.

  • @marysparks6592
    @marysparks659210 ай бұрын

    Just want to say how much I appreciate your work. Thank you for all the hours you dedicate to telling the most interesting content This type of content is why I love history. It’s the untold truths. I admire your passion it telling it. Thank you.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, Mary

  • @RetiredLovingIt
    @RetiredLovingIt10 ай бұрын

    This was so interesting Roger! Most of that we had not heard. Thanks for filling us in on this history

  • @chiefdan
    @chiefdan9 ай бұрын

    Huge thanks for educating me about Prince Madoc contributions to history. I research native sites for personal connections to my homeland.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    My pleasure! I made a lengthy film about Indiana’s Native American culture, a while back. If you haven’t seen it, it rolls through many of the states villages. Footsteps of the Ancestors kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZN3qMuhmMneedY.html

  • @marktwain368

    @marktwain368

    8 ай бұрын

    FYI. there's a town in Northern Ontario Canada called Madoc but no explanation of why or who or how.

  • @buckshoth585
    @buckshoth58510 ай бұрын

    Another top-notch film, Roger! Thank you for all the research and footwork you do to bring these stories to life.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you! I give it my all, as no one else may tell the story if I don’t. 🙂

  • @RlsIII-uz1kl
    @RlsIII-uz1kl10 ай бұрын

    I was born in Louisville and grew up in Jeffersonville my whole life. Clarksville and New Albany and Jeffersonville make up one area and I didn't know about this. Thank you!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure, this was a fun project! You might be interested in one I did about Clarksville. Lots of legends! History and Dark Legends of Clarksville, Indiana kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaeG2LyfqtrSnKg.html

  • @nuancedliars112
    @nuancedliars11210 ай бұрын

    You are golden and you are my entertainment thank you and please do not stop.

  • @johnnydogman1202
    @johnnydogman120210 ай бұрын

    Thank you Roger, excellent work, I enjoyed hearing this, I believe people have been coming to North America from all over the world for thousands of years

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    I believe many cultures made it here, earlier than we can prove. Some were driven here by rough seas, and some went sailing into the unknown, on purpose.

  • @floridaboiwoody
    @floridaboiwoody10 ай бұрын

    I so enjoy Rogers films, and this is peobably my favorite yet. I always share the links with my southern Indiana relatives. I grew up hearing the stories and legends of the area riding around with my papaw every summer and i am still eternally fascinated with the history and lore of the area. Thank you to Roger.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @floridaboiwoody

    @floridaboiwoody

    10 ай бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger please just keep it coming.

  • @diamonddylanpage7150
    @diamonddylanpage715010 ай бұрын

    Yes that's a Welsh burial cairn at 05'00. I'm from Wales and I'm pretty sure.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @user-gz2qh1ie8d
    @user-gz2qh1ie8d8 ай бұрын

    There has been a wall found on a mountain in Montana recently. One of the few that hasnt been destroyed. Yet.

  • @scotttatlock3188
    @scotttatlock318810 ай бұрын

    My great uncle was born in southern indiana when that big flood hit in 37. He was born at home and their house was cut off from help due to flood. My grandpa told me stories about it as he was older and remembered it. My grandpa also told me stories about giant skeletons being found in southern Indiana, 7-9’ tall. He seen them, but mysteriously that too are gone and it was officially reported that they were Native American of average height

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    In my movie about Indiana’s mounds and giant stories, I found many newspaper articles and county museum descriptions of giant skeletons. Incredibly fascinating stuff that makes you wonder.

  • @whysprs

    @whysprs

    9 ай бұрын

    Giants were at cahokia in illinois as well. My wife remembers seeing them on display back in the late 80s when she went with a class back in highschool. All that has been covered up now and only depictions are shown now. But nothing mentioned.

  • @richardfliearman3381

    @richardfliearman3381

    9 ай бұрын

    7-9 ft Giants are within the height measurements of the sons of Anak in the middle-age Bronze age later destroyed by Israelites in the Levant.

  • @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973

    @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973

    8 ай бұрын

    I have a book written in the 1880s which mentions the discovery of several giant skeletons near Chillicothe Ohio a few years previous. The skeletons were between 6 and a half and 7 and a half feet tall and had larger teeth than any known humans and much thicker bones. The skulls were a quarter inch thick.

  • @matthewgerome-br5gu
    @matthewgerome-br5gu9 ай бұрын

    Thomas Jefferson specifically asked Lewis and Clark to pay attention for any evidence that the Welsh had previously been in the area prior to the American acquisition of the Louisiana purchase. The importance being that this would have given the British a potential claim to the new territory based upon a prior "exploration ".(Nevermind that the Natives had without question owned the land from the beginning of time!) On another note Jefferson also wanted them to look for evidence of Mammoths,Mastodons and other megafauna that he believed were possiby still alive. In the context of the times the Lewis and Clark expidention was akin to the "moon landing" of the 20th century. We should all ways try to keep an open mind and not be to quick to dismiss ideas or things that don't fit our accepted beliefs,myths or current hypotheses.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973

    @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973

    8 ай бұрын

    Big Bone Lick , as the area is called now is known as the birthplace of American Paleontology because of the specimens discovered there. Several previously unknown species of animals including several Mastodon bones were some of the specimens found there. These discoveries sparked unprecedented philosophical debates about extinction vs Christian doctrines and beliefs.

  • @allanhorton1
    @allanhorton18 ай бұрын

    I'm a Welshman and enjoyed the video. Prince Madoc is a Welsh legend, has is King Arthur and Merlin. The English deny that any of these ever existed but we're sure they did. I emailed the elder of the Mandan tribe a few years ago and sent him a book about Price Madoc and he never replied. His name was Mervyn (Merlin)

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    I was just talking to someone the other day, how most tribes, with some exceptions, are losing their link to the past. Young people aren’t learning the old ways, oral stories, and even losing their native tongue. Even if there was conclusive proof 100 years ago, of these pre Colombian contacts, sadly, it’s been largely forgotten.

  • @allanhorton1

    @allanhorton1

    8 ай бұрын

    after watching the video I tried to find a bit more about Prince Madoc. In the 12th century the English King Edward had all the Welsh bards killed and all documents relating to Welsh history destroyed , but he couldn't destroy the oral tradition @@AdventureswithRoger

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    @allanhorton1 we’ve lost more records about history, than history itself. Right now, I’m chasing down old records from three museums that vanished.

  • @allanhorton1

    @allanhorton1

    8 ай бұрын

    We have the opposite problem in the UK. Its the sheer amount of information. Ive looked at records that have been damp and I'm sure no one else has seen them since they were deposited.The oldest records are mostly Latin , but they can be a mixture of Latin, Old Welsh and French. I will try to find more on Price Madoc.@@AdventureswithRoger

  • @jackthompson8377
    @jackthompson837710 ай бұрын

    Extremely interesting. I grew up in New Albany and heard vague tales about Vikings that lived on an island in the Ohio River. Gladly you brought some clarity.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    It could be Vikings instead of Welsh people. One guy down here has a Viking rune stone, found along the river. There’s proof of Vikings all over the Great Lakes, would not be surprised.

  • @rustyshackleford1235

    @rustyshackleford1235

    10 ай бұрын

    Viking runestones are in Oklahoma too.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    @@rustyshackleford1235 They definitely got around!

  • @rustyshackleford1235

    @rustyshackleford1235

    10 ай бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger lol definitely

  • @gregj.gotham4402

    @gregj.gotham4402

    9 ай бұрын

    I feel that the Vikings were the first outsiders to come to this land now called America. Another mystery is when the knight Templar came to America and befriended the Indians traded with and gave respect to the Indians, and the Indians also gave respect to the Knights Templar not out of fear yet due to the respect shown to the Indians.

  • @michaelg.stranestrane1465
    @michaelg.stranestrane14658 ай бұрын

    I have a story about a leather stretched and framed with crude and interesting figures with an ancient parchment hidden inside that my mother bought me at an old antique barn in Port Washigton, Ohio. The letter eluded to a tribe far west of there that raised cattle and may have been from the only Survivor of the Gnadenhutten Massacre. A pale Indian of white descent was taking 3 cows to the people there who were starving Lenape. I did not realize about all this until much later in my life. The letter stated that the emissary was from a group called Maddo. I thought it was an Indian tribe. It hung on my wall as a young boy for years. It was very old.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    That would be a very cool find! Do you have pictures?

  • @user-ix1wr2tl1o

    @user-ix1wr2tl1o

    7 күн бұрын

    Find it. Make so many copies and put them everywhere........

  • @happyhoneybigbear
    @happyhoneybigbear10 ай бұрын

    Amazing. Thank You very much for this excellent truthful content. Reminds me of all the old Welsh ruins found along riverbanks in Georgia and an entire tribe who's language was, in fact, WELSH. Awesome. Liked and subbed, many many thanks!!!!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure! This was one of the first legends I’d heard about, after moving to Southern Indiana. Truly fascinating and worthy of preserving for future generations!

  • @happyhoneybigbear

    @happyhoneybigbear

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't remember if it was the Mandans in Georgia, but really....how many separate accounts do we need to research before determining that parts of the Legend of Prince Madoc must be true? May those vile unmentionables behind the coverups at the Smithsonian and elsewhere burn in hell for the pre-Columbian histories they've hidden. Absolutely detestable. Thanks again for this invaluable research and presentation.

  • @michalpowell3549

    @michalpowell3549

    8 ай бұрын

    Love that you said this. Before my Mother Passed. She was looking up our family tree. She Said Before Mayflour was in plymouth. We were in Jacksonville and Saint Augistine. . .

  • @leftyslimm7222
    @leftyslimm722210 ай бұрын

    Excellent presentation! A subject that has fascinated me for many years. Also,scored with my absolute favorite piano music. Could this day get any better? Thanks Roger, keep up the good work!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @JimiStone
    @JimiStone10 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Roger, for another inspirational and artfully crafted video 🎬

  • @Crzydiamondz
    @Crzydiamondz5 ай бұрын

    Hi Roger! This is the first time I have ever seen anything from your channel (despite it totally fitting the description of what I like to watch!). Just wanted to say, “I Love It!” Great stuff here. You got a new subscriber! 🎉. Seems like I remember being told I have a significant amount of Welsh ancestry…. Which makes this all the more fascinating to me! Thanks again, Roger!…

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    5 ай бұрын

    Welcome to the adventure! Southern Indiana has been a treasure trove for odd findings. And just when I think I've found them all, there's more!

  • @tomsherwood4650
    @tomsherwood465010 ай бұрын

    These vids are always interesting and even riveting. These are commercial quality and I would think someone like one of the Cincinnati TV stations ought to broadcast them sometime or another.

  • @raptorman48
    @raptorman4810 ай бұрын

    There is much evidence that vikings or norsemen were here long before columbus also but as to why the history books are not corrected is baffling to me?

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Lots of Viking evidence, and it keeps popping up around the Great Lakes.

  • @Ghoosier

    @Ghoosier

    10 ай бұрын

    My understanding is they explored all the way to Oklahoma possibly. I can’t reference where I read this but I’m certain I read it somewhere years ago

  • @I4got

    @I4got

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Ghoosier Look up a woman named Gloria Farley (who is now deceased), and the "Heavener Runestone"... Then, if you are more curious look up "Queen Wilhelmina Park", "Robbers Cave", and "Spiro Mounds" (that are not just in Spiro... There are some roads to lead you to that fact of history hidden in plain site... Side note, Oklahoma has the most man made lakes... All of these lakes just happen to cover old communities... Hope this helps with your memory about the Vikings...

  • @bikergrandma2316

    @bikergrandma2316

    9 ай бұрын

    They just found Chinese wall paintings in caves in Az. Hundreds of years before Columbus.🤦‍♀️

  • @raptorman48

    @raptorman48

    9 ай бұрын

    @@bikergrandma2316 It's very believable!

  • @antonycamilleri1197
    @antonycamilleri11979 ай бұрын

    Dioch yn fawr ....blessings from wales ..watched your documentary...I knew of this legend and watched yours ...by far the best I've seen extremely educational....thankyou for Sharing

  • @spicencens7725
    @spicencens772510 ай бұрын

    How very interesting! I've never heard of this before. What doesn't surprise me is evidence getting gone that doesn't fit a narrative! It's all around us. Great job!

  • @DaleStreble
    @DaleStreble10 ай бұрын

    Had heard bits and pieces of this. Appreciate you putting it together! Great work!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, Dale! A really challenging but worthwhile project, to capture local history. I wanted to get it right, as people have grown up with this story. Hopefully people will carry it to the next generation! 🙂

  • @robertamurphy1124
    @robertamurphy11249 ай бұрын

    Madoc sailed across in 536 AD. The Welsh greeted the Vikings in 1050. They had been here for generations by that time.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    There are many conflicting researchers, many conflicting dates, and many conflicting rabbit holes in the Madoc legend. I went with 1170 AD as that’s the date that has stood the test of time. I’m aware of “the two Madoc’s” legend as well. There is no artifact, or collection of artifacts, that provide an exact date that everyone likes. Most of the claims are based on a series of leaps, all of which cannot be verified. What’s a film maker to do? I stuck with the basic story, that’s been told for over 200 years of Indiana history, and kept the date that resonates with most people.

  • @craigmoyle2924

    @craigmoyle2924

    8 ай бұрын

    The truth is the 6th century madoc not the 11th or 12th century. Look into the book the king arthur conspiracy by the the forensic historians wilson and Blackett

  • @morrisfortner3126
    @morrisfortner312610 ай бұрын

    Outstanding! Thank you! Keep up the GREAT work!

  • @cindytucker3065
    @cindytucker306510 ай бұрын

    Re: information about their burials and utensils: I highly recommend watching Time Team, a UK series that goes to various areas. You will learn much about the Iron, Bronze, Roman, and Anglo-Saxon Ages including their burial practices and use of pots, jugs, and glass as well as how Christianity slowly crept in. As a fellow Hoosier, I 💖 Roger's well researched videos. Many, many thanks!!!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, Cindy!

  • @karenjohannessen8987

    @karenjohannessen8987

    9 ай бұрын

    I must emphatically second *_Time Team_* Nearly 20 years of archeological expeditions...

  • @rosemaryshores433
    @rosemaryshores4339 ай бұрын

    I am from southern Indiana, my husband grew up in Brandenburg,this is the first time to hear about the stone and Prince Madoc Legend.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Brandenburg has a nice little museum, up on the hill. The people there were kind to show me the stone and tell what they knew about it.

  • @johnkaelin903
    @johnkaelin90310 ай бұрын

    Good video, the stone was on display for a while in the Charlestown library.

  • @hobbscoblin1313
    @hobbscoblin131310 ай бұрын

    This is the American history we didn't learn! I have been traveling the nation myself learning and looking for history just like this.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    If the channel supports it, I’d like to visit many other places with artifacts like these.

  • @SumNumber
    @SumNumber9 ай бұрын

    Great presentation and a captivating story . Cherokee blood runs in my veins and I do appreciate your effort. The Smithsonian again interferes with history and there are many many other stories about them receiving artifacts that are never seen again . They still have all of it but where ? Thanks again . :O)

  • @user-mi5cm1cm2z

    @user-mi5cm1cm2z

    9 ай бұрын

    Osiem ❤

  • @trevorslater2746

    @trevorslater2746

    9 ай бұрын

    Like in New Zealand, ancient stone blocks speak of pre Maori occupation but after examining these sites the powers that be locked up the findings for 60 or so yrs ,not sure of exactly how long ,A Maori guy on site was heard to comment, these people got here at least 500 years before us ,Why the secret ,hiding things other sites as well ??

  • @mistletoe4961
    @mistletoe49619 ай бұрын

    Fascinating and so well done. Thank you!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank-you!

  • @jezza6575
    @jezza657510 ай бұрын

    Amazing piece of work Roger…your channel just keeps getting better!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @ellen4956
    @ellen49569 ай бұрын

    This is very interesting! I'd never heard anything about Welsh people coming here so long ago. It reminds me of the stone found under a tree in Minnesota with writing on it, and people hounding the poor family over it saying it was forged. It wasn't, but once a so-called expert said it was not truly old, people kept at the family till the last of them died by her own hand rather than continue. Her father and brother found it entangled in the roots of a tree. People don't seem to realize there were a lot of explorers coming and going. Why would the government not want people to know when important things like this are found?

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    I believe many explorers reached North America, earlier than we know. Lots of reasons to hide outlier artifacts, the primary one: to protect a reputation and government funding.

  • @bradschoeck1526
    @bradschoeck15269 ай бұрын

    Roger, you create some truly fascinating and very well edited content & I had no idea that there were so many interesting legends from my home state! I also lived in Bloomington for three years that were some of the best of my life. In Nashville now but miss Bloomington (not so much indy though…). Great job sir!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, Brad! Before I moved from Central Indiana, I only knew one legend: the one about a lost silver mine. But traveling southern Indiana, and talking to local people, I heard plenty more, especially along the river. I’m developing a script for perhaps the most intriguing one I ever heard.

  • @stephani1972

    @stephani1972

    9 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@AdventureswithRoger 😊Wow- now this I can’t wait to see! *God willing you tell NO ONE the topic prior to its release & keep everything downloaded on a hard drive. (If that’s the correct word/ process? Sorry not computer savvy. Lol) At any rate, we’ve all known for years (& it’s no secret), we can’t say a thing around these phones🙄 if you want anything to remain private. Roger, you are a national treasure & cleary have Gods favor over you! I am thanking Him in advance for His protection & His will over you & yours, in Christs name. ~So let it written.

  • @tpelle2
    @tpelle210 ай бұрын

    Fascinating! What strikes me about the inscriptions on the Brandenburg Stone is how much they resemble Old Norse Runes! Looking at the timeline, it is understood now that circa 1000 AD, the Norse (Vikings, in other words) established a settlement at L'anse aux Meadows, at the northernmost tip of Newfoundland. There were at least three known expeditions by the Norse to that area of what is now Canada. The first was led by Leif Erikson, and the second by his brother Thorvald Erikson (who, according to the Saga, was killed in a battle with the indigenous people, by an arrow that struck him in the armpit and entered his chest. The third expedition was promoted by their half-sister Fredis Eriksdottir. All three expeditions simply failed due to being too small in population to prevail in conflicts with the indigenous peoples, but which were documented in at least two Sagas which exist today. Now, if we consider that at the same approximate historical time period the Vikings were raiding and establishing encampments in present day Britain. Could it be possible that copies of the Greenland and Iceland Sagas could have found their way to ancient Wales, where they could have come to the attention of Prince Madoc, and which may have inspired his expedition to the New World?

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    When I take all the evidence together, I would be inclined to cite Viking settlers before Welsh, in southern Indiana. White Indians with gold hair, Roman coins from plunder, even a rune stone found near the Ohio River. But many European groups could’ve made the trip. Just because we can’t find documentation, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. 🙂

  • @nobody342
    @nobody3429 ай бұрын

    I grew up in BIsmarck, right across the river from Mandan, where the Mandan Indians used to live. Its amazing how little they teach us, even when living there, in school!

  • @RissaFirecat

    @RissaFirecat

    9 ай бұрын

    Only the English version is taught in the schools.

  • @donnarogers7732
    @donnarogers77325 ай бұрын

    I love and so enjoy learning about things of our beautiful country I have Never heard of before. My step Dad was from Indiana but I never heard about the Madoc Legend from him. This has been a well done video which I have really enjoyed! Thank you. Well done indeed.🙏💙 We know We Don't Know ......Everything!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    5 ай бұрын

    My pleasure, Donna!

  • @raymondtonns2521
    @raymondtonns252110 ай бұрын

    thank you for this remarkable history. how odd that the Smithsonion was once again a vacuum cleaner of the past

  • @marktwain368

    @marktwain368

    8 ай бұрын

    Which begs the question: where did all the mysterious artifacts and stuff go? Is there a giant cavern underground? A DUMB (secret base)? A portal to another world?

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    @marktwain368 Checkout the very large offsite warehouse facility at Maryland.

  • @raymondtonns2521

    @raymondtonns2521

    8 ай бұрын

    i think everything goes into the "storage warehouse" and they "can't find it"unless it is their paychecks@@marktwain368

  • @kingmaybus8409
    @kingmaybus840910 ай бұрын

    This was a great mini documentary i hope to see many more from you like this

  • @justbe1451
    @justbe14518 ай бұрын

    Thank you, I am drawn to these obscure tales and surprised this one is new to me! 👍

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    These are great local legends, nearly forgotten.

  • @sandramariesolander
    @sandramariesolander19 күн бұрын

    Found this episode very interesting. 4 years ago I found out I was adopted, and after DNA testing discovered I am 23% Welsh, and have relatives buried in Southern Indiana. This fuels my interest in knowing where my ancestors come from. Thank you for this episode, and for fueling my fire!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    19 күн бұрын

    My pleasure, Sandra! That museum in Brandenburg is just across the river from Mauckport, Indiana. And as a bonus, Brandenburg has a beautiful view of the river! 🙂

  • @lukealley7519
    @lukealley751910 ай бұрын

    Fascinating history when I run across content like this I’m glued and at full attention. Great job my dude keep up the great work we all enjoy and god speed

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you!

  • @tinawantland398
    @tinawantland39810 ай бұрын

    I first learned about Prince Madoc from reading a historical novel, about Owain Gwynedd AP Gruffydd, 1137-70, a Welsh King, who had at least 6 illegitimate children, of which Madoc was one. The novel prompted me to do research of my own, as I had never heard of this “legend” before. It is certainly plausible that it is true, and the fact that his father had many, many issues with which to deal back home, AND Madoc was never going to be an heir, due to his illegitimacy, it makes sense as to why the “folks back home” were not necessarily concerned as why he and is entourage never returned. Who knows for certain?? Interesting tale to tell, but I’m not so certain as to whether or not Madoc actually existed, let alone made it all the way to “America”; if he did, is it really plausible the Aztecs & the Incas knew of him??

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    If Madoc existed, and was the first European the Aztecs and Incas had ever met, they would’ve at least thought of him as a curiosity, if not given him god-like status. I think of the Lewis and Clark expedition, in which York, an enslaved black man, was the first person native Americans had ever seen with skin that dark. They treated him like a god, and thus greatly helped the expedition. The Madoc story has a lot of rabbit holes. Some researchers place him in the Americas as much as 500 years earlier than 1170. While others, say he made two trips: one where he discovered North America, the second where he brought more settlers and supplies. Some researchers intermingle the Madoc story with the legend of Merlin, and it keeps on spinning until it’s utterly unbelievable. I chose to stick with 1170, and tell the basic story without much added.

  • @georgew8632
    @georgew86329 ай бұрын

    Great channel lived in indiana for 60 years heard many stories about mound native people

  • @regulatorscout6288
    @regulatorscout62889 ай бұрын

    The book, "Encounters At The Heart Of The World" by Elizabeth A. Fenn might be interest to some for more info on the Mandans. Interesting to see how their villages, housing, etc changed at certain time frames.

  • @ScotReeder
    @ScotReeder10 ай бұрын

    Excellent research and documentation Roger. Well produced 👌

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, Scot!

  • @jakesmith9526
    @jakesmith952610 ай бұрын

    It's very believable. I'm from Indiana and now live out in Oregon. I've always been a fan of history. I never knew about this until this video. I wished that I would've. I would of made a Trip from Richmond Indiana down south, just to check things out. I'm going to maybe do some more research on this and see what I come up with. The Smithsonian has a convenient way of losing articles that go against the modern narrative. They've done it from the beggining of the creation of the institutitution. I just wonder how many articles that they posses that they're keeping from the public. Probably million's, from my understanding of the ancient artifacts that were sent there by ordinary people. Just trying to find answers to their questions about what they're found laying about out in the fields that they were excavating or plowing especially back around Indiana and the Ohio valley. I imagine as time goes on, that many more discoveries wiil be found there eventually.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    There seems to be as much a a history of scientific conservatism, rejecting outlier info that disproves long-held theories, as a huge inventory and poor record keeping. Indiana itself has an artifact collection in the millions, and has lost, purposely or by accident, more than a person can grasp. In my video about the Borden Museum, I detailed how many times the state collection has moved: at least 5 times in its history. I would’ve loved to have seen the early collection, when it resided in the statehouse basement. When I was a kid, it was at Ohio Street in a very grand building, that they outgrew. The new museum along White River is pretty sizable, but I’ve never seen their artifact storage.

  • @thominaduncanson7596

    @thominaduncanson7596

    8 күн бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger-5 moves? 5 opportunities for items to go “missing”, with the usual suspects behind it (open secret to those using critical thinking). “Poor record keeping”…your generosity knows no boundaries, because the first duty of any curator (beyond preservation) is meticulous record keeping. One cannot facilitate research requests if the location of items in the collection are poorly documented. 🧐

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 күн бұрын

    @@thominaduncanson7596 I have some definite opinions about the artifacts whereabouts, seeing how they’ve handled modern ones. But, I provide all the theories, let people draw their own conclusions. 🙂

  • @marlenemanion9776
    @marlenemanion97764 ай бұрын

    I am from Indiana and have never heard this story. Now we see how important history can be!! It should not be erased.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    4 ай бұрын

    History is neither being taught in schools, nor held important these days. Doing what I can, to keep history alive.

  • @raycecil4643
    @raycecil464322 күн бұрын

    Ive been listening to your videos as I work the last couple of days. You have me very excited to start exploring my property just south of Brandenburg KY

  • @randallhoward3231
    @randallhoward323110 ай бұрын

    I saw the Brandenburg Stone when it was at the Charlestown Indiana Library. I asked the librarian her thoughts, about why this isn't in the American history books. She said, "I think Christopher Columbus had better PR people than Prince Madoc". It seems as though he does. Bye the way, I read the book written by Dana Olsen. It was hard to lay down, once I got started. I think I may have to check it out of the library again.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    When I was working at Louisville, a co-worker suggested Dana Olsen’s book. I was able to buy one at the Falls of the Ohio museum, even signed by the author for like $10! Now they are like $40 on eBay. Lots of good research!

  • @shdwbnndbyyt
    @shdwbnndbyyt10 ай бұрын

    Back well before the 1980's a farmer in Pennsylvania was talking to an archaeologist (a colleague of a relative of mine who was studying the pre-Columbus natives int he same area, and who noted the story in one of his archaeological reports that my mom had a copy of), and showed the archaeologist a rock that he had been using as a door stop in his barn for 10-20 years after finding it while plowing his field. The scientist did a rubbing of the unknown writing and sent it off to the University of Pennsylvania (I believe) to get it identified and translated. It turned out to be Punic, and was the gravestone of a man who was killed by the natives with a spear while hunting wolves for furs. Per the writing, the man was called "freckles" (in Punic) and was a christian, and the year was about 127 years after the death of Chirst. His hunting party had come here as they often did to collect furs, especially wolf fur as there was a good market for it near the Med. Sadly, while waiting on the identification and translation of the inscription , the farmer kept using the stone as a door stop in his barn, and a relative, learning of the possible value of the rock, stole it and sold it at a flea market.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Lots of crazy, disappearing artifact stories! “If it’s worth showing to the Smithsonian, it’s worth locking in a vault.” Northeast of here, farmers unearthed a mound covered by flagstone. They found an immense skeleton, and kept the bones in a basket, at the local grain mill. Anyone that dropped by, could sort through the bones, and souvenirs were given out to relatives. The basket totally disappeared after a flood, and you’d think a woven thing like that would float!

  • @MeadowDay

    @MeadowDay

    29 күн бұрын

    Oh no!… tragic it’s been lost to time.

  • @jeff1176
    @jeff117610 ай бұрын

    Omg! This was exceptionally fascinating. My family origins are from Wales,Scotland. It would be unlikely, but it is interesting to see if there is any familiar connection to this story. I wouldn't even know where to start looking.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    You can do an online search of your surname, see if it had any other spellings across the ages. If you do a DNA test with ancestry.com, you’ll find that many people have already built some if not all of your family tree. I was blessed to walk into a library, in my parents hometown, and found my family genealogy going back to England.

  • @kathleennorton7913
    @kathleennorton79139 ай бұрын

    Such a great video on so many levels. Thank you!

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank-you!

  • @carriev1
    @carriev110 ай бұрын

    You should check out the book called The Encyclopedia of Ancient Giants in North America, by Fritz Zimmerman. He goes into the story about the Falls of the Ohio and Sand Island. The Shawnee called the leader of these people “yellow hair” that they killed off. Tells the story of a descendant of the Shawnee who says that yellow hair cursed the land, and her family. Why they called the Ohio River the River of blood and the river of evil spirits. He maps out all the mounds in the Ohio River valley, and state by state, where giant skeletons have been found. There earth works and sun worship temples. Really neat to see how much history is here and has been hidden from us. Excellent video by the way!! 👍🏼👍🏼😊

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    Did a large film about the Indiana mounds and giant stories. Lots of crazy stories! kzread.info/dash/bejne/g61729eRqaqYnbQ.htmlfeature=shared

  • @carriev1

    @carriev1

    10 ай бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger Thanks! I’ll go check it out, can’t believe I missed it. Love your channel and all the work you put into teaching the real history of our area. As well as getting to see all these place’s in your videos.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    I’ve had a blast traveling to these places! I REALLY wanted to share another archaeological site in Perry County, but could not get landowner permission. Attached to the Madoc legend, it’s a horse shoe shaped stone wall, found by pioneers in the 1700’s. Known as Troxels Horse Shoe, no one knows who made it.

  • @carriev1

    @carriev1

    10 ай бұрын

    @@AdventureswithRoger I’ve never heard of it before. That would be an interesting video. It stinks that many of these places are on private property, with less than friendly land owners.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    @@carriev1 My greatest regret in life, was having a lead on a southern Indiana cave, with artifacts, that fell through. A hunter found it, and we talked about going out there in the fall to take video. In the meantime, one of the universities found another such cave, took out all the artifacts, and told locals they weren’t allowed to go there. This left a very bad impression, and the next season, the hunter said “none of us want another university taking away history and telling us what to do.” There were beads and broken pottery fragments on the floor, and would have been a dream to see. But he didn’t want a video to bring another university study.

  • @Clarice-rp7mh
    @Clarice-rp7mh4 ай бұрын

    A natural occurrence??? This is why I distrust so many so called "experts"

  • @davidpahlka6301
    @davidpahlka63019 ай бұрын

    I have heard of the Madoc legend before but this is the first I heard of it being in Indiana. I belonged to the Indiana Historical Society and their research is very good. It is the only historical society which makes a profit! I don't agree that the Welsh were the only ones to come here before the Vikings and Columbus. There are Irish legends that they were here with their rune writings. The Phoenicians were here also. When the Colonists met the Cherokee, many of them were lighter skinned and had blue and hazel eyes. Several Native American tribes from different language groups wore turbans like the peoples of North Africa. Look at the picture of Sequoya. What disturbs me is why there is a conscious plot to wipe out this information. Someone must have felt it would ruin them. With any mystery, follow the money line. College professors aren't immune from this, they have to change their theories which will damage their reputations. Good work! I wanted to dig deeper on the Madoc question but I have my own investigations which is taking up much more time than I anticipated.

  • @johndavis6119
    @johndavis61195 ай бұрын

    This is a fascinating legend that as an American of Welsh descent I have heard of in the past. There are also stories of the Irish monk Columbo who sailed even earlier to the (now) Canadian coast and back in Curachs or coricals and of course the Viking explorations of what is now Nova Scotia. I have found in legend there is often a coronal of truth.

  • @KentuckyGirl
    @KentuckyGirl10 ай бұрын

    Wow, what a story. I believe the Smithsonian strikes again.

  • @suzannakoizumi8605
    @suzannakoizumi860510 ай бұрын

    I believe in Prince Madoc.

  • @1crazypj
    @1crazypj8 ай бұрын

    Something I did forget to mention, it isn't pronounced May-doc but Mah-doc with a hard 'A' I think more credence should be given to Native American stories. (and other myths and folk tales around the world) I read somewhere, north western Native American tribe had a story about an exploding star which went back hundreds of generations It was proven true by astronomers who used description and 'co-ordinates' to find it from around 9,000 years ago. I just wish I had paid more attention to be able to quote reference.

  • @haroldgann7869
    @haroldgann78694 ай бұрын

    I read much of this in a book back in the 70s from a book written probably in the 1940s called the Ancient Life Of Kentucky including the findings of a white skinned red haired woman left inside the Mammoth Cave. Also included Indian tribes in the 1700s that told of a battle where the whites were all killed off at the battle of the Ohio Falls and remaining language of these white skins in use by the Indian tribes of the area. This has brought this subject matter back for I never seemed to ever meet anyone who knew anything of this history. Great work. I do wish the music added could be toned down a few levels. I found this book in the library of the very small remote town of Burkesville Ky.

  • @user-io2fx2xb2u
    @user-io2fx2xb2u5 ай бұрын

    Moral of the story: never send anything to the Smithsonian. 🙄

  • @roachcoachhelis6387
    @roachcoachhelis638710 ай бұрын

    Great video Rodger as always You're So informative I wish you had been around when I was in high school I might have done better in history🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @harmonicresonanceproject
    @harmonicresonanceproject8 ай бұрын

    What a brilliant documentary - thank you! Love the way you capture a local area, such great light. Diolch yn fawr.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank-you!

  • @Mr53000
    @Mr530005 ай бұрын

    I'm all in for Madoc! Judging from other comments here, Rose Island was not the end of the Welsh in North America, but only one of their settlements that met an unfortunate end. If I could say it in Welsh, I'd say 'Long Live the Welsh!' Thanks for this great synopsis, sir. There are also other archaeological discoveries that point to ancient tin mines on Michigan's north peninsula being frequented by ancient Egyptians, then Romans after them, then Vikings. Also, possible evidence found of Egyptian port in Louisiana, as well as Roman coins up and down the Mississippi. Perhaps Madoc had knowledge of this and maps at his disposal. Also read of a Portugues ship that made it across the Atlantic to the northern coast of New England in the same century that Madoc set out. They never landed, but encountered an enormous ship coming out of the mist whose description reminded me of the Chinese junks that circumnavigated the globe in the early 15th century. The Portuguese saw a chieftain calmly standing at the rail and looking down at them with his arms crossed. No contact was made, and the Portuguese apparently turned around and went back home.

  • @gaylaroof612
    @gaylaroof61210 ай бұрын

    This was extremely interesting. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @ggmoney6613
    @ggmoney66139 ай бұрын

    This is so cool to see these videos. I live in this area and I fish 14 mile creek all the time

  • @AdventureswithRoger

    @AdventureswithRoger

    9 ай бұрын

    I keep saying I’ll travel up 14 mile creek some year. Have yet to do it!