The Bosmer - Friendliest Cannibals in Tamriel - Elder Scrolls Lore

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Previously Wizards and Warriors documentary series on the lore of the Elder Scrolls world, we talked about the rise and decline of the Septim Empire, as we will talk about the history of the world, the creation of the empire by Talos Stormcrown, the invasion of Akavir by emperor Uriel, as well as the Oblivion Crisis and the Great War between the elves and the men ( • Elder Scrolls - Histor... ). Our new series will talk about various races and societies of the continent of Tamriel and the first episode will cover the Khajiit of Elsweyr, the cat-people, the children of the moon, known for the moonsugar they consume ( • Khajiit of Elsweyr: Or... ). In the second video we will talk about the Bosmer, the untamed wild child of the Elven family, and the friendliest cannibals on Tamriel.
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Writer: Leo Stone
Animation and Illustration: Lito Areta
Map: Oğuz Tunç ( / otgunz )
Narration: OfficiallyDevin ( / officiallydevin )
Editing: Kamran Maharramli
Producer: Nurlan Karimov
00:00 Intro
01:04 Who are the Bosmer
03:07 Origins of the Bosmer
07:28 The Green Pact
12:24 History of Bosmer
17:53 Conclusion
Production Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound: www.epidemicsound.com
#Lore #ElderScrolls #Bosmer

Пікірлер: 150

  • @EsperosK
    @EsperosK6 ай бұрын

    "Mankar Camoran did a little bit of trolling by kicking of a little thing called the Oblivion Crisis" well that is a refreshing way to put it.

  • @Just_a-guy

    @Just_a-guy

    4 ай бұрын

    @@goldenfiberwheat238 Why?

  • @Just_a-guy

    @Just_a-guy

    4 ай бұрын

    @@goldenfiberwheat238cringe is too strong word for me. It all depends on the person, some prefer full on joke mode while learning, some prefer academic style professionalism (im not saying you are that type, just wrote two opposite extreme). They have to balance it somewhere and i personały dont think this is bad. If i would like professional take I can read wikipedia, they have to make it entertaining. They wont make everyone happy and will probably do it this way

  • @MrPink-qf1xi
    @MrPink-qf1xi6 ай бұрын

    Considering it's D&D roots, Elder Scrolls has quite unique takes on classic races and cultures.

  • @jonbaxter2254

    @jonbaxter2254

    6 ай бұрын

    And then they got so plain in Skyrim. Great game, but the races are all so simple.

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@jonbaxter2254Exact same as D&D I'm playing D&D rate now

  • @badluck5647

    @badluck5647

    6 ай бұрын

    and D&D was a spin on Tolkien

  • @BabySniff

    @BabySniff

    6 ай бұрын

    Bethesda makes each game more & more dull... ES6 will probably have a battle pass & be woke af...

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BabySniff please don't say that, if you need battle pass I will be done with it, Yo Elder scrolls blades on switch is amazing, I'm surprised they haven't brought them to Xbox or PlayStation yet

  • @andersstengard6293
    @andersstengard62936 ай бұрын

    From the description of the intro of this video, one would actually think that of all the Mers, the ORCS are the well-adjusted ones.

  • @TheDJGrandPa

    @TheDJGrandPa

    6 ай бұрын

    Tbf that is kind of true 😅

  • @marcusblackwell2372

    @marcusblackwell2372

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheDJGrandPaSome of the High Elves are, too

  • @TheDJGrandPa

    @TheDJGrandPa

    6 ай бұрын

    @@marcusblackwell2372 some of every race are obviously 😅

  • @custink22

    @custink22

    6 ай бұрын

    Honestly, the orsimer ARE the most well adjusted of all the elves. The elves in TES are almost all evil bastards. The Alieyids were slavers, the Snow Elves were murderers and havent changed much beyond that in their Falmer form, the High Elves are trying to destroy the world, the Bosmer are cannibals, the Dunmer worship demons, the Dwemer were mad scientists... the Orcs are just clannish honorable warriors.

  • @perrytran9504

    @perrytran9504

    6 ай бұрын

    The subversion of them as the "model mer" in ES is pretty unique, but kinda makes sense honestly. A far conquering empire has many uses for skilled warriors and craftsmen.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M.6 ай бұрын

    Logically, the fruits should be an exception from the prohibition on eating plants. As plants produce fruits specifically to be eaten by animals, so their seeds could be better spread (usually with some bonus fertilizer).

  • @clintonbaird5465

    @clintonbaird5465

    6 ай бұрын

    Go tell Jeffre that

  • @Artur_M.

    @Artur_M.

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Radzood Thanks for the info.

  • @areth2228

    @areth2228

    3 ай бұрын

    @@clintonbaird5465 I wonder how well that would go.

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg23476 ай бұрын

    "Why do Bosmer men always make breakfast for the one night stand? Survival instinct."

  • @JohnnyElRed
    @JohnnyElRed6 ай бұрын

    So, they are basically cannibal eldritch abominations, that hide under an Elvish skin. And from what I understand, these are supossed to be the nice Mers?

  • @WizardsandWarriors

    @WizardsandWarriors

    6 ай бұрын

    Tamriel is not a pleasant place

  • @cermanica2044

    @cermanica2044

    6 ай бұрын

    Compared to all else lurks on Tamriel, actually whole Nirn, yeah they are wholesome.

  • @ap6480

    @ap6480

    6 ай бұрын

    They are cannibals out of need and eldritch abominations only when threatened, do you want to compare that to the other mer and man who often commit genocides in the name of racial supremacy?

  • @Unenvarjo

    @Unenvarjo

    6 ай бұрын

    There are no nice Mers on Nirn.

  • @thebigidea9659

    @thebigidea9659

    6 ай бұрын

    They're cordial...til you mess with them.

  • @cermanica2044
    @cermanica20446 ай бұрын

    Can't get enough of TES, impossible. Please more and more! Thank you.

  • @grumpyoldcat8302

    @grumpyoldcat8302

    6 ай бұрын

    How is your comment from 13 hours ago when the video‘s not even 30 minutes old?

  • @sisterlaylahashe

    @sisterlaylahashe

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@grumpyoldcat8302They're paying for the privilege my friend

  • @grumpyoldcat8302

    @grumpyoldcat8302

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sisterlaylahashe ahhhhhhhh damn that makes sense! I was thinking it was a KZread bug, but members having early access is much more reasonable. Thank you for the explanation!

  • @cermanica2044

    @cermanica2044

    6 ай бұрын

    @@grumpyoldcat8302 I am a member

  • @TBsentmehere
    @TBsentmehere6 ай бұрын

    Love the Elder Scrolls lore! The fact that it is mostly told via in-universe books with its own biases and unreliable narrators makes it feel so deep and lived-in. Loving theses videos! Also that was the coolest Marukh art I've ever seen!

  • @maddogbasil
    @maddogbasil6 ай бұрын

    *Can't Wait for the Redguard Episode*

  • @CaptainD0dge
    @CaptainD0dge6 ай бұрын

    Great video, but you neglected to mention how the in-universe Monomyth mentions how the Bosmer "soiled Time's line by taking Mannish wives", which would make the Bosmer Man-Mer hybrids that are more on the Mer side, as opposed to the Bretons, who are more on the Man side.

  • @sebastianprimomija8375

    @sebastianprimomija8375

    6 ай бұрын

    Altmer and Dunmer when they see Bosmer men with human wives and Bosmer women with human husbands: Ancestor cry, broken branches.

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter22546 ай бұрын

    Fascinating culture and history, and a real shame the more recent Elder Scrolls games made all the races a bit more plain. I want the crazy stuff!

  • @gabrielflecha9719
    @gabrielflecha97196 ай бұрын

    You guys should do the Moamer at some point.The sea elves that have had an almost eternal cold war with the Aldmeri Dominion. They claim to be the true descendants of the Altmer and have had an immortal king rule them since merethic era

  • @freyjafirefly9201
    @freyjafirefly92016 ай бұрын

    Ahhhhh the best !!! Bosmer ftw . Sneak archer always 💚

  • @helafinwe
    @helafinwe6 ай бұрын

    Bosmer are so underrated, i think they interest me a lot more after this video

  • @arbiter690
    @arbiter6906 ай бұрын

    I hope that the next Elder Scrolls lore vids will be on the Argonians or perhaps the others like the Dragons, Daedra, Giants, Orcs, and the other races of this world.

  • @gaspo2880

    @gaspo2880

    4 ай бұрын

    i think he's doing the playable races first, but he may cover the others too. unplayable races aren't all too know or have many records so they'll probably all fit in one video

  • @robertc8425
    @robertc84256 ай бұрын

    Omg i love this videos so much. Do more with Elder Scroll. First Kajit, now Bosmer? Amazing

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic6 ай бұрын

    Elder Scrolls lore is my favorite. It is very D&D, and therefore it is very Tolkien, but the way they have tweaked everything makes for a really cool world that feels “lived in” Kind of hope we get to explore Akavir someday, but at the same time I wonder if the mystery is what makes it great.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34306 ай бұрын

    Just what we needed to finish up the year! Wish You all a happy new year 😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

  • @LeviathanSpeaks1469
    @LeviathanSpeaks14696 ай бұрын

    Absolutely phenomenal work, K&G! I can’t wait until the Orsimer get their own video 💚

  • @ForgeMoon
    @ForgeMoon6 ай бұрын

    I hope that my favourite TES races, Dunmer and Orsimer, will be covered as well 😊

  • @mrXOwarrior
    @mrXOwarrior6 ай бұрын

    This was great. Thank you for making it. I hope future ES games will explore it more.

  • @sizanogreen9900
    @sizanogreen99006 ай бұрын

    Heck yes! A great topic to end the year on:)

  • @OrkhanJulfa
    @OrkhanJulfa6 ай бұрын

    I will be glad to see video about extinct Tamriel races especially Ayleids. For me they are more mysterious than dwemers.

  • @Dual_Singularity
    @Dual_Singularity6 ай бұрын

    I have never understood the origins of the elves and this really just summed up some questions I’ve had for years really nicely

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for a very cool video! I find the Elder Scrolls lore to be pretty interesting.

  • @persontaco1102
    @persontaco11026 ай бұрын

    Really enjoy these elder scroll videos I know your busy and I appreciate that but it would be cool if you could a video on the orcs or Bretons!

  • @LICENFIREFEAR
    @LICENFIREFEAR2 ай бұрын

    more! MORE! ELDER SCROLLS UNIVERSE AND LORE & HISTORY IS GODLIKE ! AND YOU MAKE IT MORE MAGNIFICENT WITH THESE CINEMATIC DOCUMENTARY'S🤩🤩🤩

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter22546 ай бұрын

    "Salad-Eaters". Lmao.

  • @Zaeyrus
    @Zaeyrus6 ай бұрын

    Hi W&W (and all the affiliates) team! Merry Christmas and all the best in the New Year!! Just a note, i do receive a notification on my phone, but I don't get a notification on my web browser for W&W videos (for K&G and the Cold War videos, no problem)

  • @Guydude777
    @Guydude7775 ай бұрын

    Excellent work

  • @shawnberry760
    @shawnberry7606 ай бұрын

    I just found this channel. These are amazing!! Do you have any Breton videos?? Perhaps in the future??

  • @rufusshinra9124
    @rufusshinra91246 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this, I knew very little of the Wood Elves from the Elder Scrolls lore.

  • @Mrkabrat
    @Mrkabrat6 ай бұрын

    If these are the friendliest cannibals, I dread to meet the unfriendliest ones

  • @CharlieCandy.
    @CharlieCandy.5 ай бұрын

    These are incredible videos, the little bit of trolling hit me , many thanks

  • @pandawok301
    @pandawok3016 ай бұрын

    Pelinal Whitestrake: Cannibal knife-ears!

  • @TheColombianSpartan
    @TheColombianSpartan6 ай бұрын

    16:46 a small amount of tomfoolery, even

  • @matthewcrooks29
    @matthewcrooks296 ай бұрын

    Gotta ask, what's your preferred race and class to play? Also, great job. These videos are well done, and I can't wait to see more

  • @bencera6067
    @bencera60676 ай бұрын

    Do something from Faerun!

  • @NixonRules963
    @NixonRules9636 ай бұрын

    Please finish the Alternate History series

  • @matheusrondelleite8015
    @matheusrondelleite80156 ай бұрын

    Happy New Year everyone!

  • @nvmtt1403
    @nvmtt14036 ай бұрын

    (the term ‘Wood Elf’ has a generally serene, whimsical association, conjuring images of peace-loving silvan folk and child-like pixies. )- Warhammer Asrai would like to have a word with you. 😂

  • @xXPlumpkinXx
    @xXPlumpkinXx6 ай бұрын

    Love this, always wanted more simplified context for these stories as a gamer over the years. Thanks.

  • @bobnoggets5114
    @bobnoggets51146 ай бұрын

    It's my understanding that only the most Orthodox bosmer actually practice cannibalism and that most simply ignore this part of the pact. Meanwhile I feel like Bethesda forgot that silk and wool are animal products when coming up with the materials generally used by the bosmer.

  • @matheusmarini7432
    @matheusmarini74323 ай бұрын

    You think we’ll ever get satyrs as a playable race in a future es? It’s be cool to visit valenwood at some point.

  • @karlcrisostomo418
    @karlcrisostomo4186 ай бұрын

    So who would win in a war? Wildhunt-powered Bosmers or Hist-strengthed Argonians?

  • @corvifred

    @corvifred

    6 ай бұрын

    Given the success of the Argonians during the oblivion crisis i would say that this goes to the Argonians

  • @areth2228

    @areth2228

    3 ай бұрын

    O the poor Kahjiit stuck in the middle of that.

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames
    @ShortReviewerRetroGames6 ай бұрын

    You going to do Starfield??

  • @porter7647
    @porter76476 ай бұрын

    The wood elves are so cool man

  • @bidenhasdementia8657
    @bidenhasdementia86576 ай бұрын

    I love the content but the ads are getting ridiculous on KZread, it'd be great if content was uploaded to Rumble also.

  • @MichaelSmith-ij2ut
    @MichaelSmith-ij2ut6 ай бұрын

    As a mass of homogenous black ooze myself, the Bosmer really speak to me

  • @rejzarth8114
    @rejzarth81142 ай бұрын

    I always liked the bosmer. They seem chill when they're not eating your flesh.

  • @Coplife.24h

    @Coplife.24h

    Ай бұрын

    They will eat your flesh, bones and blood if you mess with them, if you harm their homeland or threaten their folk. Otherwise they will buy from you and sell their own goods like any merchant would. Cannibalism and the wild hunt are no more than a warning to outsiders that an ant knows the leaf it cuts.

  • @Ace-cr9qt
    @Ace-cr9qt6 ай бұрын

    Yes I love this serious

  • @JumboJim54
    @JumboJim54Ай бұрын

    Where is the video about the Orcs??

  • @nuclearlefthook5008
    @nuclearlefthook50086 ай бұрын

    Bosmer stealth archers after eating 10 cabbages: :eyes

  • @lucasward7688
    @lucasward76886 ай бұрын

    Do the bosmer actually eat each other, I mean besides during the wild hunt? If not, can we really call them cannibals?

  • @nepnep1453

    @nepnep1453

    6 ай бұрын

    no meat is to be wasted. Take that as you will

  • @lucasward7688

    @lucasward7688

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nepnep1453 in that case, it's likely they possibly eat the dead...

  • @devanmcghee6123
    @devanmcghee61236 ай бұрын

    What i wanna see in Elder Scrolls 6 are details like: if you play as a Bosmer, you can only eat meat. That's the detail i pray for but know we wont get

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799

    @thesmilyguyguy9799

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @anthonybird546

    @anthonybird546

    6 ай бұрын

    lol, we're gonna get a super-weak, milquetoast, version that has lore-amnesia if Starfield is any indication.

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799

    @thesmilyguyguy9799

    6 ай бұрын

    @@anthonybird546 ya :,(

  • @anthonybird546

    @anthonybird546

    6 ай бұрын

    @@thesmilyguyguy9799 man, it is painful to be at this point, being a TES fan (since Arena) and not having any faith in BGS anymore.

  • @Coplife.24h

    @Coplife.24h

    Ай бұрын

    Not gonna work especially because wood elves living outside Valenwood are likely to abandon the Green Pact. Those who may follow the pact in other provinces are zealots and we never noticed at least one in the lore as they are mentioned only in the deep forests of Valenwood. Considering the fact that ES6 is likely to occur in Hammerfell or High Rock, we are probably going to find Apostates(oathbreakers). Considering gameplay mechanics, it’s even worse for a follower of the Green Pact because it has to ignore alchemy almost entirely and only use animal resources, which are very limited to mix potions and poisons. And before anyone here says it’s “only the vegetation of Valenwood”, the Pact is clear when it states that Y’ffre gave them animals for all their needs, don’t harm the green. The green itself represents all the forests of Tamriel and beyond.

  • @aminbakhshi2962
    @aminbakhshi29626 ай бұрын

    Nice video, bro 👌 make a orc video

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte71986 ай бұрын

    There's a high chance one Bosmer is a Bosmer version of Liver King.

  • @BaileyEBates
    @BaileyEBates4 ай бұрын

    Ahh, yes…the ooze!

  • @nishbrown
    @nishbrown6 ай бұрын

    😂😂 That title... Why so blunt??

  • @michaelcutler5538
    @michaelcutler55386 ай бұрын

    I'm a simple man, I see a WnW TES video, and I click

  • @thibs2837
    @thibs28376 ай бұрын

    The wild hunt : the ultimate whosyourdaddy

  • @jomasofastora4472
    @jomasofastora44726 ай бұрын

    ORCS NEXT!!!

  • @siechamontillado
    @siechamontillado6 ай бұрын

    This is day 103 that I humbly request a Fraggle Rock lore video.

  • @ahelpinghound2009
    @ahelpinghound20096 ай бұрын

    Dear Wizards & Warriors Crew. Firstly, I'd like to apologize for slacking on viewing over the Holliday but I had an apiphony. 😅 I realize you probably already have alot of requests in the pipeline BUT...Please consider taking on "Avatar:The Last Airbender" seems like potentially a mutually beneficial series to cover.

  • @richardthomas9497

    @richardthomas9497

    5 ай бұрын

    It would add animation as another source used by W&W, along with books, movies, video games and alternate history. I kind of hope this could lead to the fantasy and Sci-Fi worlds of anime and manga being covered.

  • @54032Zepol
    @54032Zepol6 ай бұрын

    "Yes please be our neighbor! We are so hungry! **Cough** I meant lonely! Yes we are so lonely won't you be my neighbor? "-My Bosmer Neighbors

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames
    @ShortReviewerRetroGames6 ай бұрын

    Hard for me too choose this channel or kings n generals

  • @HKGSteven
    @HKGSteven6 ай бұрын

    The only other races I like to play in elder scrolls other then my favorite the Bretons.

  • @JoshuaKevinPerry
    @JoshuaKevinPerry6 ай бұрын

    Like gamey meat, how about Khajit? Home alone again? Try some Argonian. Hungry and bored, have a Nord. Appetite borked, try some Orc. Cook meat until it is well-Dunmer.

  • @torshec8634
    @torshec86346 ай бұрын

    The Liver King Diet

  • @saratmodugu2721
    @saratmodugu27216 ай бұрын

    Dudes be waiting on the series finale of the Mongols in Europe like GTA VI😢

  • @perrytran9504

    @perrytran9504

    6 ай бұрын

    I hate cliffhangers. Tell us what went down in Hungary damn it!

  • @saratmodugu2721

    @saratmodugu2721

    5 ай бұрын

    @@perrytran9504do you know how long it takes to finish editing a video?

  • @zintosion
    @zintosion6 ай бұрын

    Chad elves.

  • @spyrofrost9158
    @spyrofrost91586 ай бұрын

    Bosmer looked and felt so much better in Oblivion than they did in Skyrim

  • @magesalmanac6424

    @magesalmanac6424

    6 ай бұрын

    Speak for yourself all my bosmer are sexy af ☺️

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman98216 ай бұрын

    "Friendly" and "cannibals" don't sound right together

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames
    @ShortReviewerRetroGames6 ай бұрын

    You forgot the orcs bro, orcs are technically elves in elder scrolls world, surprised you didn't know that,

  • @Coplife.24h

    @Coplife.24h

    Ай бұрын

    They are most likely to be goblin-kin. Like Ogres, for example. When Boethiah turned Trinimac into Malacath, he became a Daedric beast, only simple traits resembling the former elven origin and so did his followers.

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    Ай бұрын

    @@Coplife.24h no it's fact in the game, I don't read theories on Reddit or blogs lol When you climb the 7000 steps at the 3rd tablet of men & dragons Katina has 2 books, sneak up steal them & read them

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    Ай бұрын

    @@Coplife.24h there's also a half dwarve half orc king named king dumalacath, he fought a red mountain,

  • @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    @ShortReviewerRetroGames

    Ай бұрын

    @@Coplife.24h five songs of of King wulfharth & The Arcturian heresy those the books, also idk where the theories of Talos aka Tiper septim was born in high rock, his name was early Beard, and the king of falkreath was killed by Talos & 3 of his loyal soldiers too but one soldier cut his Talos throat, those 2 books I mentioned tell it all, how orcs are elves, how giants are elves, look up devil Kingdom of Skyrim, alandro Sul son of Azura Fight of red mountain I can tell anything for Skyrim, EpicNate315 goes off blogs n Reddit's Wizards n warriors goes off some facts n false but he the closes to it

  • @Coplife.24h

    @Coplife.24h

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShortReviewerRetroGames In earlier games they were classed as goblin-Ken meaning they were related. Come Morrowind much of the games lore was rectoned including alot of Orc lore elevating them from a unplayable beast race to cursed Elves via a new origin mythos. It should be noted that not all of the connections were fully rectoned for example there are a few tid bits of lore that contradict the new more prominent Orcish origin lore (Topals encounters, Osh Ornim etc) so based on that you could argue that there is enough room in the Lore to still consider them Goblin-Ken if you disregard the Velothi exodus origin myth as religious propaganda or whatever.

  • @manticorephoenix
    @manticorephoenix6 ай бұрын

    Free Valenwood, the Thalmor must come down!

  • @PanchoTheSneaky
    @PanchoTheSneakyАй бұрын

    I'm gonna wait for all the race videos before I pick my favorite but I have to admit that the anti-vegan part scored too many points for the bosmer.

  • @felixkimani5375
    @felixkimani53756 ай бұрын

    I'm a Vegan Bosmer

  • @badluck5647
    @badluck56476 ай бұрын

    Elder Scrolls Online glossed over the darker aspects of Bosmer culture and the Green Pact to pander to a PG-13 audience.

  • @spencercorpuz
    @spencercorpuz6 ай бұрын

    AI artwork?

  • @ikelevermann1491
    @ikelevermann14916 ай бұрын

    All Mer` deserver the worst!

  • @sebastianprimomija8375

    @sebastianprimomija8375

    6 ай бұрын

    Ahh the Pelinalposting has begun

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