In your case, what would be your approach to survive, thrive or even exploit the region in your favor? Thank you all for watching our lore overview into the Border Princes! A special shoutout to Anthony L. for his narration for this particular episode and to Skrubasauras who acted as support cast for this one. If you enjoyed this journey through the Border Princes, check out our recent video on 'Karak Eight Peaks'-another epic tale where we explore the bloody war of attrition that is going on there: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o62M1qlre8ydZLw.html

@user-sy3ys1xj1n

Ай бұрын

Get black fire pass and cell it to the empire

@Arbiterjim

Ай бұрын

Oh, gotta coalition build. Only way to survive when Urks, Grobi, and Beasti are around. Build a city with the manlings and defend it together

@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd

Ай бұрын

around 23:20 whats that music's name?

@MinersLoveGames

Ай бұрын

Maintaining some level of sustainability would be one of many hurdles, but definitely top priority. Doesn't matter how tall the walls are or what mercenaries you have in your pocket, if you can't feed them or keep animals watered, or have some sort of income, you're done before you even start. Two, defenses. Starting out, I'd probably rack up a debt trying to pay guards and build defenses. But, assuming we're able to get up and running, I don't mind if I wind up having to pay them back for the next ten years. This goes back to point one, sustainability. Having ways to keep mercenaries supplied and healthy will go a ways toward keeping them around, and treating them right will earn loyalty and reputation. With luck, I might even convince some to become soldiers under my own flag. Three, coordination. I have soldiers, defenses, and supplies to last for years. Now comes the problem of gold. Coordinating with some of the other Border Princes would go a long way. Not only could lucrative trade deals be made that would benefit our economies and keep a steady stream of revenue, but it would also improve relations. Incentivising these other Lords to cooperate and band together would make my survival and theirs as well a lot more attainable. Some of the other fledgling Lords would likely see me as a potential conquest or threat, but with my self-sustaining resources and well-paid (and hopefully) loyal soldiers, that can be addressed. Eventually, if things go well enough, I'd try to convince the ones I'm on really good terms with to try and form some sort of alliance or confederation. With that secured, and with our accrued armies and resources, we would hopefully be able to repel any orks, undead, beastmen, or other greedy Lords. Ambitious? Yes. Practical? Also yes. Likely to wind up with my bones bleaching in the sun? Of course. But this is Warhammer, and you're not going to become anything of note in this world if you don't court death at least once.

@awesomehpt8938

Ай бұрын

Might make for a nice place for the empire to expand to and turn it into a new province. Work with the nearby dwarves to build defenses that’ll hold off the green skins. Instead of relying on blackfire pass every time.

The Border Princes, Tilea, and Estalia always interested me the most out of all the factions. Especially the Dogs Of War. It likely stems from me playing the Southern Realms mod back in Total Warhammer 2. There's just something about carving out your own place in the world, fighting tooth and nail with a ragtag army made up of people and races from all across the world, both New and Old, all together, that I find so appealing.

I was about to go to sleep and I was like "Damn, yet an another boring sleepless night." Choyer to the rescue!

If only they had worked closer with the Empire, they could have maintained more stability. Franz at the least could have used the trade and offered his protection

@mickeymalone7577

Ай бұрын

But would that be a good idea for the empire? They have chokeholds via the mountains, imagine how many troops would have to devoted to garrisoned the region which is so close to where the largest concentration of greenskins outside of the darklands lies. And of course Boyz like a good krumpin so imagine what happens when a domino effect of orc tribes arrive looking to fight.

@Arbiterjim

Ай бұрын

@@mickeymalone7577 An economic alliance with the offer of professional military training and support building infrastructure would be everything they need. They already have all the bodies needed to field their own armies

@Coolz85

Ай бұрын

The world... blew up... And if that hadn't killed them, the narrators speach impediment would have when his 'S' finally came to a conclusion.

@visitingforgefather5997

Ай бұрын

These places were founded by exiles, outlaws and would be rulers. Any 'cooperation' with the Sigmarite Empire would be regarded with trepedation and suspition. It honestly wouldn't take much for the population to get riled up and accusations to be leveled at the Sigmarite Empire trying to 'take over'. Regardless if it is true or not. Besides it is more interesting like this, rather then the whole place being another Sigmarite province.

@Arbiterjim

Ай бұрын

@@visitingforgefather5997 You know, that's very fair. I let my love for Franz and the Empire overwhelm that sense lol. I truly believe Franz would never try to militarily take over the region, but I wouldn't be so sure about his successors taking advantage of whatever roads he built. You're right, it is more interesting to let them be - just wish they'd be more of a powerful buffer state lol

A RPG set in the Border Princes territory would be awesome! Good lore reasons for why you have nothing at the start and need to build up troops, base, trade routes, resources,+++ And you could have a multitude of different Warhammer races, mercenary companies and heroes. Also could easily focus on smaller battles and not "world will be destroyed" stakes in this setting, wich could be a lot of fun :)

@TheBookofChoyer

Ай бұрын

Definitely, I like to think that not all battles should be "the biggest battle you've ever seen" or the End of the world if X is not stopped. Smaller conflicts and even personal-level stories help make up the world and give it a sense of scale. An RPG set in the Border Princes would be cool indeed 👌

@schizeinbornheim7732

Ай бұрын

Im currently planing with some friends to play a mixed campaign of rpg/wargame where the players are put at the head of a mercenary company, recruiting, completing contract, going to battle with the troop or on adventure just by themselves The border princes is a fine answer to this setting

@wolloms

Ай бұрын

Would be a great Mod for the game Bannerlords too

@alexandrub8786

Ай бұрын

The closest thing to that would be Pathfinder Kingmaker, and Pathfinder:Wrath of the righteous;in termnof crpg as far as i know.

I always find the border princes to be very interesting, it bassicaly a frontier where if your a up and coming lord who has a mercenary army, can make your own kingdom. Aslo i get to role play as a gun obsess grail knight

This is a wonderful setting for a Battle Brothers-like game. Maybe something sitting in between BB and Mount&Blade, where you can lead something around 5-6 "regiments" or up to 500 units. One could run almost any starting regiment, with some factions being locked into only raider role, some adding harasser merc or "plain" mercenary role to it and some allowing to become prince in the end.

@aymanelkadouri8235

24 күн бұрын

Battel brothers for the win!!!

A Witcher 3 style RPG in this area would be amazing!!!

I think this and The Badlands were GWs answer to how static the world map was, I'm sure many a mighty empires campaign was based around here

Here’s a group and land I’ve always been curious about! Never heard to much details about the Border Princes or it’s people so this is very interesting!

I just must say that I love the writing/lines for this video. They really help with painting a vivid picture and making the descriptions of the places, characters, and lore come alive. Kudos!

Love the old world. Keep these up. They make me very happy. Love from Australia

Malus Darkblade would thrive in the Lands of the Border Princes.

I honestly wish they would make them into their own playable faction in total war.

@ricardogonzalez9504

Ай бұрын

Theirs a mod which does. It's called southern realms

This was a very good video. Better then the most lore stuff (and better then GW Warhammer+).

@Coolz85

Ай бұрын

It's the worst narrator I've ever heard in any of his video's. After the recording, someone should have gone up to him and said: Do you really want an entire video made of s's? Why would you hire someone with a speech impediment?

@KirKanos01

Ай бұрын

@@Coolz85 i heared much worse. And with much more filler and useless comments. Or with a overplayed voice...so they think they are "cooler" or sound "more intellectual".

I now have a new playlist to watch. There is so much great lore here thank you man.

I had been waiting for this video for a long time dude, thank you. Love this region, certanly a nice setting for an Open-World game.

I remember when I heard of PF's Kingmaker and thought it novel, I was delighted to find out that other RPGs had similar ideas Paizo where just the first to get a vg adaptation

Such a good video. Not many people talk about them. They are niche in a way. I think you would also nail a video about the Dogs of War

The editing and music was especially pleasant in this video 😄

@Coolz85

Ай бұрын

If only the Narrator didn't ruin the entire video by having his 's' sounds drag it's nuts over all of it.

Didn't know much about this factiom and wasn't expecting much but..... Damn this was good. Really high quality! Thank you!

Such a divided and chaotic place. Proof that division leads to disorder. Though none of them would be willing to hand their power over to another. I guess you could describe this place as "Might makes right" in the Old World. A very interesting place that I know little about, so I'm glad Choyer has given us a video on this to learn about the Border Princes and those in the region.

Is the Balkans, cheers to these brothers!

Ah yes. The guys who always die in the first 15 turns.

@placeholdername3818

Ай бұрын

It doesn't help that section of the world was shrunk down to being two provinces wide

@paula.827

Ай бұрын

They shrunk down? What if someone made a mod where the capital cities are accurate 😅

@Coolz85

Ай бұрын

That's just because it was one of the first modded factions in WH2 and they haven't been updated, at all, since.

@placeholdername3818

Ай бұрын

@@paula.827 The problem is the entire world was compressed so players can play across 3 different continents. The already smaller areas became absolutely tiny. It will never happen but I really wish we got the Old World map in the 3rd game with all the updated factions.

you know I actually tried to bring these guys into The Empire diplomatically but they were stubborn right up to the point where the orcs raided their cities.

Please do a video on beastwomen

Mmmm dats some good vidya

Perfect place for a chaotic dnd adventure

❤

High Elf overview when?

The ending music feels cut off. It used to be better. Just an observation. And with that said, thank you. For the overview of the "Princemaker" lands. Yeah, I don't see any difference. :) (for those unaware, I am referring to Pathfinder: Kingmaker)

Sad that no araby in video. Other than that great vid cant wait for next one.

This MAY be the balkans

Great...but Ostland? Wheres OSTLAND?!

@TheBookofChoyer

Ай бұрын

Ostland is being published tomorrow!

@baronpapa88

Ай бұрын

@@TheBookofChoyer yes! YES!!! 😍🍻

I miss you reading these yourself

@skrubasauras

Ай бұрын

As far as I'm aware, Choyer has not narrated any of the videos on this channel. For the most part he relies on voice actors like Fantasy Bound's Marl VA, Mr. Anthony L. (who narrated this one), and myself to narrate his writing and bring new life to both Warhammer universes. Thank you for your long time viewership however! It's much appreciated

How many dollars does KZread pay you to say the word diverse ?

@TheBookofChoyer

Ай бұрын

Zero. It's one of those words that just comes to me when doing research & writing I guess. Will keep an eye on it though now that I've noticed haha