A small ship bringing such big news! Thanks, Tom, for telling us the story of HMS Pickle.

Did my time in the U.S, Navy now far from the sea (Denver, Colorado) but really enjoy this series on the legacy of earlier mariners!

@Burvedys

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, pirate John Paul Jones navy... :)

It was a great sail that day Tom, and a stiff breeze to show what she could do. Robin and I did it in reverse a couple of years after, sailed past Cape Trafalgar ( not impressed ) and gave a thought to those that perished on our way to Gibraltar

Every year the Royal Navy celebrate the Battle of Trafalgar in various ways - the Officers celebrate Trafalgar Night in the Wardroom and the Warrant Officers, Chief’s & Petty Officers celebrate Pickle Night in the Senior Rates Mess. Never turn down an invite to one of these function they are fantastic

Missed this the first time round, outstanding as usual. Thank you Tom, a real education.

Nothing quite like the magic of a slippery pickle.

What a Great Doco.

Absolutely fantastic! So very interesting

Such awesome videos... cant wait for the next boat

Tom, it was a great pleasure to fly over to England and work with you in Nelson's cabin, thanks mate. Pickle's origins in a pickle, Bermuda? I think not. With respect, despite my diligent research in many countries which you can discover on my website under 'Nelson and Trafalgar' I have found no evidence that Nelson's Pickle was built at Bermuda. It is just as likely, possibly more likely she was built at of near Plymouth Devon possible as a smuggler. It seems to me the Bermuda claim has more to do with promoting the Bermuda Maritime Museum than the facts about Pickle II's origins. Never mind the BMM is a worthy cause ! I could add much more on this subject. I hope though, I've made my point? The truth is we do not know. What we do know is the third vessel to carry this unlikely name, also a schooner, was built at Bermuda in 1820. This may be the reason for the confusion. The Bermuda Pickle served with merit off Africa on anti slavery work however in the official reports by her officers she was not considered well built and had a relatively short R N life.

@5:41, that "suspiciously modern" rig could sail closer to the wind than any square rigger.

The Pickle was far from typical. Yet, she remains topical.

@CorePathway

Жыл бұрын

But not tropical

I love that you can buy one of these ships, there is a boatyard in russia that makes these and other sailing yachts based on historical deck plans. This one is called the grumant 58 and you can order it as an oldschool motor sailer or get it built to the 9s Company is called varyag i think and according to wikipedia they built this one

Love it!!!!

Good 👍👍

but the captain of the Entrepenate whom Nelson had unofficially given the task to, who raced the Pickle back to the UK, who used thirteen horses to get from Plymouth to London, who was beaten by mere hours, died a few years later depressed, ill, and humiliated. His grave was paved over in 1953 to make way for a parking lot. I always remember that story when I have a bad day, cause shit could be worse.

@johnough4893

Жыл бұрын

A car park, not a parking lot. This is not America!

@nonegone7170

Жыл бұрын

@@johnough4893 No wonder England is in such shambles today when the citizens care about such trivialities...

@johnough4893

Жыл бұрын

@@nonegone7170 Sloppy Americanisms polluting English is not a trivial matter. It shows how low we have sunk in slavishly absorbing all the trash that America exports.

@nickjung7394

16 күн бұрын

​@@nonegone7170Failure to pay attention to detail can easily cost lives!

First maritime superpower? The Phoenicians might have something to say about that.

@ScramasaxeRA

3 жыл бұрын

Robin Harrison the importance is SUPERpower, not simply a maritime power. No nation before the Brits had such complete and total control of the seas

@wolfthequarrelsome504

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScramasaxeRAcontrol of which seas?

@ScramasaxeRA

3 жыл бұрын

Pat Aherne every European power, as well as the US, had treaties with Britain that gave the latter special privileges, like every ship had to lower their flags in the presence of British ships, even in foreign ports. By Trafalgar, trade was largely controlled by Britain, who was powerful enough to force treaties to be made (see the treaty between Portugal and the Barbary States). Britain had enormous political and economic clout. The Dutch had been the first to reap the benefits of the maritime system, but not to the degree of Britain. Phoenicia and Carthage, both impressive ancient maritime empires, never had the sheer dominance of the British Empire

@earthwizz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScramasaxeRA They dominated the seas of the known world at that time which made them a maritime superpower. It didn't last, just as it didn't last for the poms. Empires are always ephemeral.

@ScramasaxeRA

3 жыл бұрын

@@earthwizz and therein lies the problem with definitions of conceptual accolades. Superpower means being a power on a global scale. But because a power is an arbitrary term, and wholly relative, it's never well defined. I'd definitely argue they were a great power. One could make the argument that they were a superpower for the known world, but you'd have to create a new word to differentiate what they did and, say, the British and the Americans. The scale is just totally different, and brings so many logistical problems that it's not just "being a power, but more"

Lucho en trafalgar en la flota británica 6 cañones balandro de su graciosa majestad pickle.poco pudo ayudar pero se que lucharon bien.y a los valientes se les recuerda.apoyaría el ataque de las corbetas o fragatas inglesas supongo.

Love sailing my Pickle schooner to Tunatown.

@leroyhovatter7051

3 жыл бұрын

You ought not talk that way your just a boy. Mmmm Hmm. Carl Childers. Sling blade.

@alohathaxted

3 жыл бұрын

Leroy Hovatter do you mustard on your fries?

@leroyhovatter7051

3 жыл бұрын

@@alohathaxted I sure love them French fries taters Mmmm Hmmm.

@alohathaxted

3 жыл бұрын

Leroy Hovatter now eyes gotta go get me some, thanks!

I'm curious what the answer was to the exam question :)

She was built in Bermuda of Bermuda cedar which was light and strong. Rig was called Bermuda Sloop.

@vertigo0331

3 жыл бұрын

So that is why triangular sail rigs are called "Bermuda rigs"?

@gj1234567899999

3 жыл бұрын

Sad that Britain hardly builds ships anymore. Ships are mostly made in China now.

@BeKindToBirds

3 жыл бұрын

@@gj1234567899999 When missiles and aircraft exist you need less ships mate. Much in the same way you see less horses on the roads as days go by.

@gordonfrickers5592

2 жыл бұрын

Bermuda? I think not. With respect, despite my diligent research in many countries which you can discover on my website under 'Nelson and Trafalgar' I have found no evidence that Nelson's Pickle was built at Bermuda. It is just as likely, possibly more likely she was built at of near Plymouth Devon possible as a smuggler. The truth is we do not know. What we do know is the third vessel to carry this unlikely name, also a schooner, was built at Bermuda in 1820. This may be the reason for the confusion. The Bermuda Pickle served with merit off Africa on anti slavery work however in the official reports by her officers she was not considered well built and had a relatively short R N life.

Pickle riiiiiick

Oh dear, I hadn’t finished watching.

Thank you for teaching me what a schooner is! :)

hey nelson look at meee im pickle shiiip i turned the winds eye in the hms pickel nelson pickle shiiiiiiipppp!!! im so sorry i will never comment agian anywhere i promis

Where did they get the timber to build their boats?

@Thoth_al_Khem

3 жыл бұрын

Britain is FULL of ancient Oaks....HUGE trees. But the Pickle was built in Bermuda in 1799 and Bermuda has tons of trees as well. Bermudan Cedar which was great wood for boat building.

@davidandrews8007

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thoth_al_Khem Brits also came to Newfoundland for straight tress of iron wood.

@keithgorf1581

3 жыл бұрын

Forest of Dean

I love pickles

@leroyhovatter7051

3 жыл бұрын

Gay

Translating is missing

Fricker's unremarkable painting appears to be based on the model ship kit, which isn't the pickle.

@gordonfrickers5592

2 жыл бұрын

Pickle's origins in a Pickle, as is many of the stories she has generated. Sir consequently your comment is very very misguided. You owe me an apology and a bottle of rum. You are right that the model kit is wrongly named as HMS Pickle For the rest you are wrong. Permit me to help you? 1. you can learn about my painting and the very extensive research behind my 3 Pickle paintings via my website. My research included archives in the USA, Bermuda, England and France. Look for warships, 'Nelson and Trafalgar' on my site and follow the hyperlinks, enjoy. 2. My paintings are actually based in part upon the only painting likely to have been overseen by her commander in London after he delivered the news. 3. My painting is also based on the model in the Royal Navy Museum, Portsmouth which I was permitted to examine and photograph in detail thank going to the then head curator the late Dr. Colin White. The model is today often said to be of HMS Pickle however Dr White assured me it is actually of a very similar R N schooner of that period, HMS Haddock. Dr. White told me among other things, te lines of the original Pickle did exist having been taken off her at Devonport. Unfortunately the museum many years previously in a 'more gentle age' he said, loaned the plans to a individual presumably to make a model. Neither the plans again or the model ever saw the RNM... That means, somewhere out there you just might discover the original draft although it is far more likely it no longer exists. 4. Before I prepared my painting I had a long consultation with Dr. White and also with the now legendary Mr. Peter Goodwin. At that time the latter (who is also the author of 17 naval books, most of them semi technical, to date) was 'Keeper and curator' of HMS Victory and I was Victory's Official Artist for the 200th anniversary of Trafalgar. My resultant paintings, the one shown in Tom's video is "I Have Urgent Dispatches' and still available as a very fine print from my website, are all resultant from the above. By way of recommendation, Mr. Goodwin and several retired R N and USN admirals have bought copies of the print. Durgan, can send the rum to my home address in France.

Damn landlubber

This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg

It's "The Ships That Built Britain" not ""The Boats (sic) That Built Britain". The difference between the two is significant.

AMERICA

@Dave_Sisson

3 жыл бұрын

HMS Pickle was built in Bermuda, so close to America, but still a Royal Navy dockyard.

Yankee schooners are famed for a reason.

Boat... U mean ship

She looks suspiciously American!

@eifionjones559

3 жыл бұрын

sorry but this Pickle was built as the Alevtina and Tuy in Russia based on an Armed Baltic packet

Schooner rig = American developed blockade runner. Not surprising at all

That is NOT the ship that delivered the message. That ship sank in 1808. That ship was built in 2012!

@brianjones3191

3 жыл бұрын

He tells us in the introduction this is a replica.

@garrybeech4921

3 жыл бұрын

This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg

@garrybeech4921

3 жыл бұрын

1995

@dulls8475

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianjones3191 It is not even a replica. I have been on it and it looks nothing like the original.

Portentous. Good story, but over produced and self important. It is not about you. Nice replica.

@eifionjones559

3 жыл бұрын

not quite a replica but close enough, built in Russia

@garrybeech4921

3 жыл бұрын

This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg

@eifionjones559

3 жыл бұрын

@@garrybeech4921 Yes I agree , she was simply used as a replica for the bi centenary Trafalgar celebrations , there are no original plans for HMS Pickle so it was cheaper to hire her, and change the name from "Alevtina and Tuy", than build a true replica (according to the curator of HMS Victory she was close enough though a bit smaller). We also at that time owned a sister ship the "Elena Maria Barbara" . The third one is chartering in the Med but I do not know the whereabouts of the fourth

@richardpentelow655

3 жыл бұрын

@@garrybeech4921. So all replicas. Not original, nice for sure. But COPIES.