No...moral of the story is "Don't let your ass get you killed "🐄🐂

@FlintGirlVelda

24 күн бұрын

😂

@5150Bud

24 күн бұрын

2nd moral to the story “always be ready to pay more than ya owe”

@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage

24 күн бұрын

Like biden ones? 😂❤

@Jukeboxxxz

23 күн бұрын

@@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage FDT

@josephhamilton962

23 күн бұрын

@@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage FDT

Just as you stated this should be made into a movie as well as a book. Great story telling!!!

@r.shanethompson7933

24 күн бұрын

There is a book "The Guns Of Meeting Street".

@e.mjohnson9675

24 күн бұрын

Well here's your chance to write a script!

@stewatparkpark2933

23 күн бұрын

Would be plenty of sex scenes to draw in the viewers .

@cracka182

22 күн бұрын

Called "Sue...The Towns Smoo"

@Ralfi_PoELA

5 күн бұрын

I think they actually had a Cameo in the Dillinger movie when they first show Melvin Pervis he goes through the back door and he comes out with a wounded woman he said was going to be executed and she just smirks.

Strom’s parents maintained a plantation type farm. They employed blacks to work on the farm. One black lady was a housekeeper and lived with her teenage daughter in separate quarters on the farm. During one of Strom Thurmans college breaks he managed to get the 16 year old black girl pregnant. Strom was about 19 years old. A daughter was born and she was known as Essie Mae Washington. When Strom was a Senator he privately supported her financially. She became a school teacher and actually retired. Strom never publicly acknowledged his daughter although she did see him from time to time. After Stroms death this fact became known. Stroms white family including his son who was Attorney General of South Carolina acknowledged her as DNA test proved old Strom was Essie’s Daddy.

@drdr76

23 күн бұрын

Pos Repugnican

@johnneill5960

23 күн бұрын

Let’s not forget he was a khlansman something the DNC hates to tell

@1982MCI

23 күн бұрын

So ‘Ol Storm was just like all politicians in Washington and just could not keep his hot dog in his pants where it belonged and then kept the information hid and forced his child to suffer cause he was embarrassed, yet these are the individuals we are supposed to trust to run our state & country and make laws that affect our everyday life!!!

@deliciaford4343

22 күн бұрын

WOW thanks for the information. Do the Stroms still recognize Essie and her offspring on holidays/family get together etc ?

@tommeredith7462

22 күн бұрын

@@deliciaford4343 Google it.

Sue was for the streets

@leslieswiman4813

24 күн бұрын

RUN AROUND SUE

@davidrice3337

24 күн бұрын

Evil

@melissalove2463

24 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 100% !

@Whatsthedealsquirter

24 күн бұрын

Sue was for the meat

@jeremygreen2439

23 күн бұрын

@@leslieswiman4813 LOL

@11:22 "How is this not a movie?" Strom Thurman's involvement negates any possibility of that happening. The family would sue, is my guess, and they have not only DEEP pockets, but powerful connections as well.

@Ganiscol

24 күн бұрын

Nah. Can't sue for anything. Can't even stop somebody from writing or filming an unauthorised biography, you could only sue for libel or defamation after the fact and possibly lose on creative license. The real reason would be that the mainstream audience is not fond of these type of small-time feud stories. So, that rules out a studio making this. If a director or actor finds this interesting and has the resources and/or connections to make it happen, it would happen. Most likely on streaming, though.

@DrQuagmire1

24 күн бұрын

@@Ganiscol not sure about a full-length movie, but definitely a documentary

@TeeKoon

24 күн бұрын

They only have to change names and location, but as long they stick to facts, no grounds to libel!

@jadedmonk7001

23 күн бұрын

@@TeeKoon true dat

@PolaBeaver

23 күн бұрын

Because his friends who are major politicians and world leaders are still around and it would make them look bad for associating with such a weird individual.

Crazy to think how a mule kick started a deadly chain reaction. But you could argue that it was actually J. Wallace Logue's greed (asking Timmerman $40.00 instead of the original $20.00) that lead to a deadly escalation which resulted in the deaths of all those people.

@samanthafairweather9186

24 күн бұрын

And J.Wallace had already been paid the $20 he originally asked for!

@alexman8800

23 күн бұрын

The Hatfield / McCoys feud started over a hog.

@Tom_Samad

23 күн бұрын

​@@alexman8800Yikes! 😮

@deliciaford4343

23 күн бұрын

WOW thanks for explaining their FEUD!!!​@alexman8800

@jonhenson5450

21 күн бұрын

​@@alexman8800yea, her name was Rosanna McCoy

All that over a calf? Honestly he asked for $20 he received said $20 but then later asked for more? Well being one who watched a lot of the people’s court over the years Once he accepted the $20 in the first place any more further claims were null and void. That’s nuts

@ozymandiasultor9480

24 күн бұрын

Well, that is kinda obvious...

@StewartGately

24 күн бұрын

Earl Forrest made his stand over a lawn mower,difficult to comprehend.

@samanthafairweather9186

24 күн бұрын

Yep.

@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage

24 күн бұрын

Laws changed

@lambornpeter3922

23 күн бұрын

​@@ozymandiasultor9480 not to the participants.

This is not what happens when tempers flair. This is what happens when evil, dispecible people run amuk. Absolutle insanity. Thanks for the story.

@01-1OH-LlVVIXQX-vn9qw

24 күн бұрын

I agree with you!

@jadedmonk7001

24 күн бұрын

Indeed.

@jeffschueler1182

24 күн бұрын

Before you post the next time, run spellchecker.

@suzanneflowers2230

24 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@31terikennedy

24 күн бұрын

Think Hatfield and McCoys. They take care of business "Down There".

It wasn't caused by the donkey but by vindictive people. I feel sorry for the donkey and the calf.

@mikeflohr4043

15 күн бұрын

@@garden2356 soo true...pay the $40 and stay alive😃

@DownhillAllTheWay

6 күн бұрын

@@mikeflohr4043 If somebody demanded more than $800 for their dead cat, after you had just paid more than $400, would you pay it? This was caused by unreasonableness and vindictiveness - not cats and donkeys.

@mikeflohr4043

6 күн бұрын

@@DownhillAllTheWay CHILL.. guess everyone got the joke but you.. Besides if she likes sex so much she could've went over and paid the neighbor for the calf with her own piece of ass 😃 another joke if you didn't get it either.🤡

@fuzzybutkus8970

3 күн бұрын

It was s Mason conspiracy did you see the hidden in plain sight mason seal on grave next to hers.

@davidthelander1299

3 күн бұрын

I feel bad for the guy that got shot in the back at the store.

It would be awesome to restore that old General store and make it a monument of some kind if someone had the time and funds. After all 2 people lost their lives in there at the counter. The building still looks in pretty good shape.

@yankeechuck

24 күн бұрын

I agree, I like to restore old things, and when I saw the condition of the building I said “no way would it look like that if I owned it “

Wow. This is some real American Gothic drama.

I got the book when it came out. I went on a day trip and drove by the store and the Logue house. Somewhere nearby, I don't remember where, we stopped at an old "antique" junk store. The old man who ran the store was a Timmerman and Sue Logue had been his teacher.

I guess she came and went.

@nickrizzi4927

20 күн бұрын

Best post ! Everyone can stop!

@Canadiangirl1234

19 күн бұрын

Lol

@donjohnson3701

18 күн бұрын

Ohhh! I see what you did there! 🤯

@umabitr8157

9 күн бұрын

How can you confirmed

@seen-hj5bs

2 күн бұрын

😂

Anything involving Strom is going to be weird...he was a strange person. 😒

@otaku1524

23 күн бұрын

Strom, I do believe, was one of Joe Biden's mentors along with Robert Byrd while he was in the Senate.

@PastaMakerCordy-qy4uz

22 күн бұрын

Yes he was.

@sharynkoren2054

20 күн бұрын

I met him in DC when he was a senator. I think he was 99 then. He gave me a kiss

@miapdx503

20 күн бұрын

@@sharynkoren2054 ew,,,

@mr.joshuah1412

14 күн бұрын

What are you talking about? He was fine.

Crazy story! The south is full of stories like this! It really would be an interesting movie. Thanks for sharing.

I agree, this should be made into a movie. What a crazy story.

@01-1OH-LlVVIXQX-vn9qw

24 күн бұрын

👏

@PaulRossi-kh4fn

20 күн бұрын

Nah, Hollyweird wouldn't want to make a movie out of it, it's not woke enough.

The mules name was Norman. He didn't like Cows.

@roberthimmelman3816

24 күн бұрын

“Stormin’” Norman, cow killer

@DebraGill

24 күн бұрын

@@roberthimmelman3816😂 I didn’t want to laugh.

@samuelhadley5556

24 күн бұрын

So you're saying that the mule is racist? 🤔🤠👍⭐🇺🇲

@user-fh7tx6no1v

23 күн бұрын

They should have look after the calf better...or is that even posible when its all about the money on farms

@tammyhall3144

23 күн бұрын

I'm betting the cow's name was Chick-fil-A, eat more chicken, lol

8 people dead and 1 other gets 17 years in prison.....9 lives effected over $20

@rubenmartinez4346

21 күн бұрын

It’s worse now. People get killed because a car honks at another.

@jameyabernathy710

20 күн бұрын

$20 was a whole lot more money then too

@butterfinger1171

20 күн бұрын

@@jameyabernathy710 thank you for pointing that out...nobody knew that you could buy more with $20 84 years ago

@jameyabernathy710

20 күн бұрын

@@butterfinger1171 ok well kind of a stupid message then 9 lives affected over $20, well no shit smart guy, lives get destroyed for free more less any amount of money and good job being a smart ass

@charlesking7331

2 күн бұрын

A cat was killed, and the owner is asking for $20 which later led to the death of eight people. Is that correct?

I was born and raised in SC in a small town of Ware Shoals. Heard this story yrs ago

@maxr.mamint8580

22 күн бұрын

Hey Ware Shoals! I'm in Coronaca. Nice to meet ya, lol!

@bethweeks5943

23 сағат бұрын

I remember hearing of Ware Shoals🎉❤🎉

Instead of going out with a bang, she decided to mix it up and go out after a bang.

@PaulRossi-kh4fn

20 күн бұрын

lol..yes exactly..🤣

@4thetruthalways531

20 күн бұрын

That's okay - she wanted that one last time instead of a fancy meal!

@juanjuan799

5 күн бұрын

What a bang! Good mess, for the Ages to read?

Incredible story and exploration relating to people involved. Really appreciate you taking us along. Editing is well done as well!

Father in law has the Freemasons logo on his grave.

@scottlindrum9341

20 күн бұрын

All these types of people are Mason's. Google it, you will be surprised who is and was a Free Mason. 33

@papat7435

19 күн бұрын

and?

This is not what normally happens "when tempers flare." This is what happens when the human heart is filled with the love of money (the root of evil) and the desire for revenge. Sins which results in murder.

I appreciate your research, drone footage, and narration in this one. Very interesting!

Moral of the story..."KEEP.YOUR MOUTH SHUT"

@alukuhito

24 күн бұрын

That's all you got out of it? Try to escape punishment for your crime? Are you a Trump voter? How about the moral is to treat your neighbours well?

@Jukeboxxxz

24 күн бұрын

@@alukuhito yes...that's what I got from the whole story

@alukuhito

24 күн бұрын

@@Jukeboxxxz Lame. What goes around, comes around. Man up and pay the price of your crimes.

@Jukeboxxxz

24 күн бұрын

@@alukuhito cool story

@megancrager4397

24 күн бұрын

​@@alukuhitogood Lord, can you watch something without forcing your political ideology? This is not healthy. Go outside. Touch some grass. Smell some flowers. Put the phone down. I think you need a break.

Wow another great video. Taking the time to add all the extra clips and backstory was a great addition! Keep then coming

As we can see , law enforcement hasn't changed in all these decades . Guilty until proven innocent .

@america_is_a_myth

22 күн бұрын

Neither have politicians…

@MrWolfsDen

22 күн бұрын

@@america_is_a_myth So true .

Man, you really are Mobile, never know where you're gonna pop up next, you can seriously cover some territory.

Thank you for sharing Chris!

There is a book about this chapter of history called THE GUNS OF MEETING STREET if anyone is interested. I have been to the area and seen the store and Logue house .I agree, this would make a great movie.

I know the Adams family. A former slave family that was as owned by the Thurmans. They live in the area till this day, we talked about this story when I stayed with them for a week in the winter of 2000. They thought it was scandalous that Strom had sex with her in the way to her execution. Said, one of the guards who was from that area, raved about it when he came home for that next Christmas. Strom admitted it, early on, bragged about it even in certain company and later then denied. Wouldn't we all have sex with a girl, on her dying day? Especially if she looked the way she did in the time she did. She was a real doll in those days.

@foonus406

14 күн бұрын

The things a Freemason could brush under the rug at the time... After watching to the end it became very clear as to why some of these men were able to hold the positions of power they did when you see the Freemason symbol etched into their gravestones.

@roaddog7793

4 күн бұрын

At least Strom wasn't screwing a çorpse😂😂😂😂😂

Sue went out with a BANG!

@daisydelarocha3688

24 күн бұрын

😂 That's what the movie should be called! Lol!

Your true crime videos are my favorite ones of yours.

@umabitr8157

9 күн бұрын

Not me

That is a really a bizarre story and yes it would make a great movie. Thanks for sharing

She came and went at the same time 😂

@onthefritzfarm

24 күн бұрын

You beat me to it

@jeorgedavid3239

24 күн бұрын

😂

I'm from SC and know who Thurmond was, but I never knew about this whole story! Thanks for sharing.

What a good old-fashioned lady.

What a story. Thanks for sharing.

What a story, this is definitely one of the strangest I’ve heard. I just found your channel on my feed so new subscriber.

Why doesn't this surprise me? Strom Thurmond was allegedly not quite the upright statesman despite his lengthy "service" in government.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S NICE'S OF YOU TO BE TRAVELING AND TAKING US WITH YOU TOO SEE ALOT OF STATES, TELLING US ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE. THANK YOU. PLEASE BECAREFUL. "MAY LORD WATCH OVER YOU ALWAYS." L.A CALI!!!!

Great stuff bro!!🤘

LOVE LOVE LOVE this!!! You gave us a fascinating story, an explore of the house / school, and you went to a cemetery. GREAT editing, too, btw. Keep up the great work my friend 😍😍😍

For the full story read the book titled “The Guns of Meeting Street” by T. Felder Dorn. Excellent book.

This was a great story! It really should be movie worthy! Take care and safe travels ❤

What trips me out is how my mama, grandma, great grandma and that older generation says that modern folks don't have morals, lack decency and a good upbringing, they had it. Then I hear stories like this and the Ruby McCollum story out of Live Oak, FL and I say they were just as wild and scandalous, lol I remember when Strum died in either 02 or 03, good gracious that man was something else, and not in a good way😳

Strom Thurmond was a real piece of work himself. Look him up.

@robertjohnson1681

24 күн бұрын

According to Joe Biden his best friend.

@tomschmitz8884

24 күн бұрын

It's in Strom's memoirs,... actually. He was a feisty old goat.. And an even feistier young kid!

@packersprik

24 күн бұрын

Strom Thurmond was a great man!! I’d vote for him a hundred times!!!!

@davem8836

24 күн бұрын

@@packersprik Yeah he's right up there with the great Donald Trump!

@HorusHawks

24 күн бұрын

You’re right, he was a piece of work all right. Did a great job of perpetuating awful myths about the south, by voting against civil rights at every opportunity he had. Lived to be 100, and was in office till that same year. That’s what we need, some more 100 year old senators, lol.

Chris, you are the best at your craft. Your passioin for your subject(s) is palpable and catching. Thank for this story of infidelity, temper, and corruption. Best to you!

Sad story this put in mind of a story of Hatfield & McCoy in Pikeville ky

@LeBaseballGuy

24 күн бұрын

I was thinking that too, I just finished a book about them and was getting Hatfield vibes here.

Thanks for the video and story!

This was a fascinating video. I’m from SC and have never heard this story…. Thank you for another great video!!

Isn't it sad how much history is never told and you tuber finally bring more history to us..

@squirrelcovers6340

23 күн бұрын

You have to read.

@chipcook6646

22 күн бұрын

Until u tube make it disappear

I can't wait for Chris to do a video on the Rolling Mill Mine Disaster of 1902!!!! Had only learned of this sad incident during my 2nd Johnstown trip last month, as a historical plaque is located, literally, by the entrance to the Inclined Plane (while the hiking trail leading to the mine's entrance is located right across the Stonycreek River)

Man, that is a crazy story! You're right, Chris. This would make a great movie, especially considering Hollyweird is running out of ideas, like you said.

@davem8836

24 күн бұрын

You could put "Based on a true story" on the screen and still no one would believe it.

@LeAnimal65

24 күн бұрын

@@davem8836 No kidding! :D

@dixiecyrus8136

24 күн бұрын

There are a lot of real life stories out there, Hollywierd is too busy remaking classics "better" and ruining them🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@LeAnimal65

24 күн бұрын

@@dixiecyrus8136 So true, sadly. It seems the only decent ideas come out of indies these days.

Awesome story! Never heard of it before. Thanks for this!

Excellent! Love when you do true crime, Chris.

I do believe your location for the first scene is not at the Thompkins school. Happy to share the location with you, I was there just last year. Met the grandson of the general store owner, fixing a car outside of it.

Wow what a totally fascinating story! Thanks for sharing it.

Wow !! This was so interesting ! So happy I found your channel, thank you for this !!

Ole' Strom has the longest-winded tombstone inscription I've ever seen. Guy and his family were really full of themselves.

I've got a book on this "The Guns Of Meeting Street". It says nothing about a farm hand being killed on the Timmerman farm. I think the author's name is Dorn.

Thank you for sharing. Very very interesting... I never knew this

Your true crime videos are my absolute favorite! Great vid.

Excellent delivery. I'm a long term fan. ;). Can't believe this has Never been a Movie or at least a documentary. I'm with you completely on that. Thank you for your hard work.

Good grief!! Well done video. Thank you.

Some families get a kick out of running amok in their communities, this sounds exactly like that kind of family, they where all more than likely not missed hahah

Excellent crime documentary! Much effort and information went into the making! Kudos 🎉!

Excellent video. Thank you so much ❤

This would make a brilliant movie . Your absolutely right Chris 👍🏻

Be careful of venomous snakes while you're walking in old places like these, especially under all junk as in this place. Interesting story, good story telling.

Thanks for posting

Thank you for sharing with us all 👍🏻 yes I agree 💯 this should be made into a 🎥🎥 💯👍🏻

What an odd story! New subscriber from England 🇬🇧 liked how you retild history😊

What a story. It would make a good movie. I really enjoyed this story. Real life is always more crazy than fiction. Thanks

Dude, great vid. Very interesting, very well done, thanx.

Finally, we deff need more videos like this !!

Excellent History Lesson ✅. Thank You So Much Very Interesting. Stay Safe & Take Care 🙏

Thanks Chris I look forward to your videos , take care 🤗

This was fantastic! Better than standard True Crime.

Helluva video awesome job. Yea I'm subscribing hope to see more like this

That's an awesome but sad piece of history.

She sure was not a looker… don’t know how she was getting men…

@Tom_Samad

24 күн бұрын

Very different times where people had much lower standards when it came to hitting it on.

@stevenmoomey2115

24 күн бұрын

@@Tom_SamadGuess you never saw the Jerry Springer Show, Maury, Judge Judy, or Dr. Phil? There’s a couple of more, that I can’t remember.

@daleolson3506

24 күн бұрын

The old fashioned way

@Artoconnell

24 күн бұрын

What has one eye but cant see?

@rescuegirl

24 күн бұрын

Simply put, she liked men. A lot. Perhaps too much. 😂

Strom is a deeply Evil monster.

@timothyburchett8306

10 күн бұрын

Was....

It’s amazing all that information was chiseled into the stone and so well done!!!

This reminds me of The Hatfield and McCoy feud in West Virginia. Very interesting and yes would make a great movie.

This would be a great Movie!! Thank you for this great info on Strom Thurmond.

A great mix of history, crime and storytelling 👍

Cool channel, man. It’s neat to take a tour while hearing the story.

Great video, what a story!

This was outstanding! I enjoyed this story.

@MobileInstinct

24 күн бұрын

Thanks! It's a long story and maybe a little hard to follow for some.

@LisaMartini-px7mc

23 күн бұрын

@@MobileInstinct I appreciate the dedication and research that you and others like Lamont put into bringing forth your stories.

good one chris!, theres alot of crazy stuff thats happened here in the south, cant wait to see the nc stuff thats where i live

Just found your channel and subscribed, great story well told

That was excellent. Thanks

Masonic symbol of some of those gravestones.

Well Narrated and a story that shows how senseless our lives can be.

Great story and video as always.

Wow what a crazy story would make a great movie for sure.

You're right, would make a great movie with Mathew McConaughey as Strom. First time I've heard this story and I'm in my 60s.

I'm in NC! I LOVE your channel, ever since I saw the Mt. St Helens video!

I was born and raised in Spartanburg South Carolina and I didn’t know this story, thanks for sharing.